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General Debate 21 June 2016

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Shawn Herles

Mikey and stephie want to disarm us so their Mulim masters won’t be harmed slaughtering us.

Lick lick mikey…good little dhimmi….
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June 21, 2016 4:08pm
Shawn Herles

“Just because a gay, registered Democrat Muslim turned out to be a mass-murderer”

No, that can’t be true. It was US fundy Christians and US gun laws that killed 50 people in Orlando. The nice democrat voting Muslim just accidentally had his finger on the trigger. 🙂
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June 21, 2016 4:11pm
Shawn Herles

“Just over a week after the worst mass shooting in American history, the Senate failed Monday to advance a pair of modest and popular gun violence reform measures.”

Did those measures include banning Muslim imigrants who like to shoot or blow up Westerners Scott?

No?

Then what use were they?
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June 21, 2016 4:13pm
mikenmild

You think the Senate was wise to resist making it difficult for suspected terrorists to buy firearms or explosive, Shawn?
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June 21, 2016 4:15pm
Shawn Herles

It was the Liberal-Left who “reformed” the US’s immigration laws to allow for mass immigration.

It was the Liberal-Left who promoted multiculturalism which demands tolerance for the West’s enemies.

It was the Liberal-Left who campaigned against the kind of religious and ethnic profiling which could have prevented Orlando from hapenning in the first place.

It is the Liberal-Left that wants more mass killings in the West by importing more violent Muslims.

So the idea that the answer to Orlando is more Liberal-Left shite about gun rights is laughable.

The Liberal-Left is not the answer, it’s part of the problem.
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June 21, 2016 4:20pm
Shawn Herles

“You think the Senate was wise to resist making it difficult for suspected terrorists to buy firearms or explosive, Shawn?”

I think only Leftist idiots believe they would make any difference whatsoever to Islamic terrorists mikey. Truth is they would make no difference at all. It’s just the usual Lefty pissing in the wind, while ignoring policies that really could save lives.

Like not having your Muslim masters in the US or the West in the first place.
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June 21, 2016 4:23pm
Shawn Herles

The Liberal- Left thinks that when someone threatens you and your family with death, the best strategy is to disarm yourself.

Normal people think that when someone threatens you and your family with death, you shoot the fucker.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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June 21, 2016 4:28pm
mikenmild

Perhaps weapons should be more freely available, Shawn. It’s hard to see how a well-regulated militia could operate without rocket-propelled grenades or mortars.
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June 21, 2016 4:29pm
mikenmild

And there you go again, accusing DPF of suffering from a mental disorder.
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June 21, 2016 4:30pm
Griff

Kimosabe if you want to use my copyrighted phrases you must pay for the privilege.
“Lick lick” is owned by me and you are looking at a nice wee letter from my lawyer with a bill for thousands.

“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.”
Charles Caleb Colton
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June 21, 2016 4:35pm
starboard

They not only kill their own children in unprecedented numbers, they strangle kittens to death as well. Big tough warrior eh !

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/81291154/alleged-kitten-strangler-appears-in-court
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June 21, 2016 4:41pm
Don the Kiwi

Griff.
To claim a copyright infringement, you have to have posted the copyright number. 😉
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June 21, 2016 4:41pm
Griff

Shhhh Don mere detail.
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June 21, 2016 4:46pm
Nostradamus

Griff:

“Lick lick” is owned by me and you are looking at a nice wee letter from my lawyer with a bill for thousands.

That invites comparisons with Colin Craig. His love poem (apparently worth $15,000) was 45 words long. Your catchphrase (which you say is worth “thousands”) is only two words long. I can’t figure out who has the higher charge-out rate – you or Colin!
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June 21, 2016 4:53pm
Griff

Colon pays for the privilege nostra.
Four million and counting.
All he has manged to buy so far is a one totally screwed conservative party brand.
And dead right kevs eternal everlasting loyalty……
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June 21, 2016 5:05pm
Shawn Herles

“And there you go again, accusing DPF of suffering from a mental disorder.”

Since when is DPF Liberal-Left mikey? 🙂
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June 21, 2016 5:09pm
Shawn Herles

““Lick lick” is owned by me”

I just took it from you. What are you going to do about it? 🙂
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June 21, 2016 5:11pm
nasska

….”All he has manged to buy so far is a one totally screwed conservative party brand.”…..

Colin’s insufferable arrogance & vanity has a high price Griff.
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June 21, 2016 5:12pm
nasska

About $17 a vote from memory. 🙂
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June 21, 2016 5:13pm
Shawn Herles

RADICAL ISLAM’S ALLIANCE WITH THE SOCIALIST LEFT

“The Western socialist left detests the United States and its capitalist economic structure, and seeks to facilitate that structure’s downfall by any means necessary — including the formation of whatever alliances will further that ultimate objective. One seemingly unlikely alliance that the socialist left has forged is its alliance with radical, fundamentalist Islam, which emphatically and unambiguously rejects virtually everything for which the socialist left claims to stand: the peaceful resolution of international conflict; respect and tolerance for other cultures and faiths; civil liberties; freedom of expression; freedom of thought; human rights; democracy; women’s rights; gay rights; and the separation of church and state.

There could be no stranger bedfellows than Western leftists and Islamic extremists. Yet they have been brought together by the one overriding trait they do share — their hatred for America; their belief that the U.S. is the very embodiment of evil on earth and must consequently be destroyed.”

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=291
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June 21, 2016 5:13pm
Shawn Herles

The Left’s Unholy Alliance with Islam

“In his book The Brotherhood: America’s Next Great Enemy, Erick Stakelbeck explains the underlying motivations behind this alliance writing that the “Occupiers hate America, loathe the free market, want to weaken the United States, overthrow capitalism, and divide the spoils among themselves. Islamists hate capitalism as much as any socialist Occupier does, because they seek to install a global Islamic financial system based on sharia precepts. Additionally, the Islamists and the radical Left both regard the United States—the standard bearer and chief protector of Judeo-Christian Western Civilization—as the Great Satan that must be destroyed.”

This is the ultimate culture war, Islamists take advantage of the lefts moral relativism, its default disapproval for non-Western, non-Judeo-Christian forces, and its tendency to pathologize any opposition to its causes as bigotry and ‘phobia’, notes Stakelbeck. While the Occupy Wall Street Movement has flamed out, the unholy alliance continues to metastasize like a cancer throughout our nation.”

https://politicallyshort.com/2016/03/27/the-lefts-unholy-alliance-with-islam/
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June 21, 2016 5:16pm
Shawn Herles

The Left’s alliance with Islam is the reason Scott, Stephie and Mikey are attacking the right of Western peoples to defend themselves. It is not an accident that at the very time when Islam is ramping up the number of terrorist attacks against the West the Left wants to disarm Westerners.

This is called aiding and abetting the enemy.

The only relevant question regarding the Left then is public hanging or the firing squad?

Personally I prefer public hangings.
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June 21, 2016 5:20pm
Shawn Herles

Prof DEBUNKS study claiming right-wing extremists in U.S. more deadly than Islamic terrorists

“Scholar: 62 people in U.S. killed by Islamic terrorists for every one killed by right-wing extremists

A widely touted study claiming right-wing extremism is more deadly than Islamic terrorism in the United States has been debunked by a history professor who shows that, in actuality, there have been 62 Americans killed by Islamic terrorists in the U.S. for every one American killed by right-wing extremists.

Professor Andrew Holt of Florida State College at Jacksonville recently published his analysis that discredits the widespread sentiment that right-wing attackers are the deadliest domestic terrorists in the U.S.

“If you include the death totals from 9/11 in such a calculation, then there have been around 62 people killed in the United States by Islamic extremists for every one American killed by a right wing terrorist,””

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/25885/
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June 21, 2016 5:29pm
Shawn Herles

The obligatory “White Americans are terrorists” fundraising scam

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2015/06/24/obligatory-white-americans-terrorists-fundraising-scam/
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June 21, 2016 5:31pm
Nookin

Colin’s insufferable arrogance & vanity has a high price Griff.

deadrightkev, having spent hours grovelling at the foot of the golden Trumpian effigy mounted in his boudoir, turns, snarling in the direction of GD, eyes Griff and Nasska and…….
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June 21, 2016 5:32pm
Nostradamus

Nookin

and…….

Don’t stop – the suspense is too much for me to bear!
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June 21, 2016 5:33pm
itstricky

The Liberal- Left thinks that when someone threatens you and your family with death, the best strategy is to disarm yourself.
Normal people think that when someone threatens you and your family with death, you shoot the fucker.

That’s a strange analogy Shawn given we’re all talking about an International, political, religious, complicated situation and you’ve framed it as though it’s an isolated home invasion or a bar fight.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Since when is DPF Liberal-Left mikey?

http://m.kiwiblog.co.nz/disclosure_statement

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I self identify as a classical liberal, which the Institute for Liberal Values of New Zealand succinctly summarises as a belief in individual rights, limited government, private property, free markets, tolerance, and reason.

On the political compass test I score +10 (right) on economic issues and -6.15 (libertarian) on authoritarian/libertarian issues. One can see some NZ blogosphere charted here.

But I’m sure you’ve seen this before. Probably didn’t comprehend it.
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June 21, 2016 5:37pm
nasska

Tell us more. At what particular time do I turn into a frog. 🙂
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June 21, 2016 5:38pm
Nookin

Sorry Nostradamus, it is all subject to release conditions. Episode II is next week.

Have you come across this site? I stumbled on it quite by accident and it has some quite interesting cases not the least of which is the action by Warren Gatland and Welsh Rugby against our very own Mark Reason. I see that one of our revered commenters made the grade, also. The next instalment must be due soon.

http://www.defamationupdate.co.nz/2016
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June 21, 2016 5:41pm
tom hunter

mikenmild (22,662 comments) says:
June 21st, 2016 at 3:56 pm
I think the current term is ‘modern sporting rifle’. We wouldn’t want people to think these weapons could be used to kill dozens of people in short order, would we?

Vox? Esquire? Slate? I forget which one of these was the source of the scathing article about the NRA’s term for the AR 15 and other, similar rifles but it amounted to the same thing….Waaaahhhhh – calling them a Big Scary Military Assault Weapon has been revealed as stupid, whereas the NRA’s term has gained ground and is less scary. This propaganda coup cannot stand.!

The reason they’re called “sporting rifles” is due to the term “hunting rifle” being taken and since ten million AR 15 owners in the USA use them for the sport of target shooting at gun ranges. This may not be sport to you (neither is golf to many people), but it is. So the term is not some counter-propaganda term crafted by the NRA, it’s just a perfectly accurate term to use. It should also be noted that a vanishingly tiny percentage of these weapons have been used in any crimes, let alone mass shootings.

As just one example of the stupidity: a Glock 17 has a 17 round magazine. If you did want to kill a lot of people in a short time in a small space like a club, the Glock and others like it would be your weapon of choice – as opposed to a “powerful assault weapon”. In fact the previous largest mass shooting, by that university student Ho, used nothing but handguns. And they’re actually more powerful than an AR 15, at least at ranges of 10-20 metres.

But the Glock 17 is not what gun control nutters use when they stand up in public. No, they’re holding an AR 15 – because it looks way scarier.

The propaganda term is actually ASSAULT WEAPON or the mildly less stupid and ignorant ASSAULT RIFLE. Both of these terms have been used by gun control people to wage a propaganda war of scary, scary guns. A campaign that has failed to date, possibly because the tens of millions of people who know something about these guns know how stupid and moronic the term is.

The snarking sarcasm of Vox and company is simply a bitter acknowledgement that their propaganda term failed.
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June 21, 2016 5:41pm
nasska

itstricky

….”we’re all talking about an International, political, religious, complicated situation”…..

Problem is that sooner or later it is going to become a one on one or neighbourhood on neighbourhood scrap & I’m absolutely certain that I don’t want to face it unarmed.

It’s just like the situation in NZ where the crims are armed, the citizenry are not & the cops stick a finger in the air to test the wind before they do anything.
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June 21, 2016 5:45pm
Stars And Stripes

Bookshop donates 241 books to Marae
“University Bookshop (UBS) at Auckland University has collected and donated 241 books this month for families at the marae, which has opened its doors to feed and house families living in their cars.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11660631

Can these people actually read?.
Never mind should be some cheap books up for sale on Trade Me shortly anyway.
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June 21, 2016 5:46pm
itstricky

Problem is that sooner or later it is going to become a one on one or neighbourhood on neighbourhood scrap

I don’t mean to be rude but I think that falls squarely into the barbed wire fence paranoia category (which it looks like Shawn is already will drawn into)

If you start believing that, then the terrorists have won.
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June 21, 2016 5:49pm
nasska

….”I think that falls squarely into the barbed wire fence paranoia category”….

There’s not much that Shawn gets right but his observations that Islam & western civilisation are totally incompatible are spot on. The last time an invading army was welcomed in the same way it involved a wooden horse.

Our political leaders have no interest in protecting us. Therefore we as individuals will have to be ready for the inevitable.
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June 21, 2016 5:58pm
itstricky

Can these people actually read?.
Never mind should be some cheap books up for sale on Trade Me shortly anyway.

Perhaps you could put your cheap shots up there with them?
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June 21, 2016 6:02pm
Gabby

Jeez tookie, your mate didn’t haul off on a policewoman did he?
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June 21, 2016 6:10pm
stigie

What are you talking about Gobby ?
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June 21, 2016 6:24pm
Stars And Stripes

Hey itstricky if you feel emotional about this then you can do your bit by getting on to Restaurant Brands HQ and see if they will chuck in some KFC vouchers as well.
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June 21, 2016 6:32pm
Shawn Herles

“But I’m sure you’ve seen this before. Probably didn’t comprehend it.”

It clearly says that DPF is Liberal-Right, not Liberal-Left.

I get that disnction is lost on you and mikey, but that’s because, being Liberal-Left, your both stupid. Sorry, other than repenting from your fuckwit political ideology, there is no cure for stupidity.

That’s why naaska, who is Liberal-Right, gets the issue and understands the problem, while you and mikey are still on the multicultural hug a Muslim bandwagon.
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June 21, 2016 6:35pm
mikenmild

But Shawn, usually you just mention ‘liberals’, as you did today at 4.28pm. Care to explain how ‘liberalism is a mental disorder’. I’m going to assume you are familiar with mental disorders.
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June 21, 2016 6:41pm
itstricky

It clearly says that DPF is Liberal-Right, not Liberal-Left.

(Quote Shawn)
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
(Unquote Shawn)

That’s your reading comprehension again. Better get it seen to, like I suggested last time.
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June 21, 2016 6:42pm
itstricky

you can do your bit by getting on to Restaurant Brands HQ and see if they will chuck in some KFC vouchers as well.

You’re going to offer KFC vouchers with your cheap shots? Good to see you pitching in. I’d be glad to assist
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June 21, 2016 6:45pm
Shawn Herles

List of Islamic Terrorist attacks: 2015

“During this time period, there were 2865 Islamic attacks in 53 countries, in which 27626 people were killed and 26149 injured.”

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2015

2865 attacks and 27626 victims of Islamic terrorism in 2015 alone.
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June 21, 2016 6:46pm
Stars And Stripes

Just showing my softer side itstricky.
Underneath the exterior I’m all heart.
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June 21, 2016 6:48pm
Shawn Herles

“Care to explain how ‘liberalism is a mental disorder’”

No need. I give examples of it every day. Several today alone. You just have to type and post on KB to give is an example of the mental disorder you suffer from. 🙂

And I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you and it’stricky voted for David Cunliffe. That’s evidence enough! 🙂
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June 21, 2016 6:49pm
itstricky

Underneath the exterior I’m all heart.

I can tell
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June 21, 2016 6:50pm
mikenmild

How’s your maths, Shawn? If the US stopped bombing Muslim countries today, but those terrorist attacks continued at the same rate, how many years would it take for American deaths to equal Muslim deaths so far?
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June 21, 2016 6:50pm
Manolo

2865 attacks and 27626 victims of Islamic terrorism in 2015 alone.

Another crowning achievement of Islam, the vile and primitive religion of peace.
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June 21, 2016 6:56pm
itstricky

And I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you and it’stricky

You didn’t acknowledge your use of ‘Liberalism” Shawn. You really need to get this reading thing sorted. People are confusing it for lying. S&S can you send him some KFC vouchers?

(Argh moderated because I wrote “post your address” presumably)
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June 21, 2016 6:59pm
Shawn Herles

The fruit of mikey and stepie’s hard work.

“Idaho residents call for justice for 5-year-old girl raped by Muslim migrants: perps remain unpunished”

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/idaho-residents-call-for-justice-for-5-year-old-girl-raped-by-muslim-migrants-perps-remain-unpunished

The rape of 5 year old children, coming to your city and town coutesy of mikey, stephie and the Left’s multiculural diversity club.

They must be so proud.
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June 21, 2016 7:04pm
Shawn Herles

Philadelphia Muslims assault restaurant patrons: “We belong to ISIS”

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/philadelphia-muslims-assault-restaurant-patrons-we-belong-to-isis
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June 21, 2016 7:06pm
mikenmild

Jesus cries every time you tell those whopping lies, Shawn.
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June 21, 2016 7:06pm
big bruv

Shawn

“The rape of 5 year old children, coming to your city and town coutesy of mikey, stephie and the Left’s multiculural diversity club.

They must be so proud.”

No doubt they will do as Jo Cox did in her part of Yorkshire by burying their heads in the sand and trying and keep it quiet because it is more important to keep these stone age Muslims happy than it is to keep children safe.
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June 21, 2016 7:10pm
Griff

But Shawnee are you not a god whacker ?
Did you see my link to filthy god whackers fiddling kids
Do you we should ban all godwhackers for the crimes of a few leaders of their community ?
After all there wouldn’t be many priest in nz but two resent cases of priest in court for Kidd fiddling .
How many Muslim priests get done for kiddy fiddling?
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June 21, 2016 7:10pm
mikenmild

It must be about time for Shawn to remember that he is a Christian, and come up with a cringing apology for all his lies and abuse on this blog. At least I hope so – I found it very amusing last time.
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June 21, 2016 7:14pm
nasska

Plead the Fifth & point out that you’re protestant is your best bet Shawn. 🙂
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June 21, 2016 7:15pm
Lucia Maria

Griff,

How many Muslim priests get done for kiddy fiddling?

Muslims don’t have priests.
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June 21, 2016 7:20pm
mikenmild

Imams, ayatollahs, whatever…
But I’ll bet that Muslims are no different to other authority figue=res in having more than their fair share of molesters. They’re probably not as organised and systematic about it as the Catholic Church though.
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June 21, 2016 7:21pm
itstricky

It must be about time for Shawn to remember that he is a Christian, and come up with a cringing apology for all his lies and abuse on this blog.

I discovered it was his lower than average reading comprehension skills being mistaken for lying. I’ve asked S&S to send him some KFC vouchers. It’s the Christian thing to do.
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June 21, 2016 7:22pm
Lucia Maria

They’re probably not as organised and systematic about it as the Catholic Church though.

It, Mike? What is this ‘it’, of which you speak?
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June 21, 2016 7:27pm
Stars And Stripes

“German tourists sleep on street in New Plymouth to save money”
http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/81295794/german-tourists-sleep-on-street-in-new-plymouth-to-save-money

Dirty feral trash should go home as we have enough rough sleepers already without more joining in.
Or maybe go to Te Puea Marae as they seem to welcome this kind of person.

Also itstricky I am not Christian either just in case you care.
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June 21, 2016 7:30pm
mikenmild

Sexual abuse of children, Lucia. As you well know, the Church has aided and abetted this for centuries.
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June 21, 2016 7:32pm
Lucia Maria

I actually came here to rant about NCEA maths, but I’ll go back to making dinner now.
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June 21, 2016 7:33pm
itstricky

Also itstricky I am not Christian either just in case you care.

Boy you have a really good sense of humor. Or a really bad one. I can’t tell. So I upticked you. Got some spare KFC vouchers for Shawn? He has to spend his pocket money on English classes this month.
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June 21, 2016 7:34pm
nasska

Don’t sulk Lucia. We love your rants! 🙂
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June 21, 2016 7:34pm
Lucia Maria

Nasska, I managed to let it all out on Dear Husband who just came home, but will fill everyone else in later. Dinner’s ready.
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June 21, 2016 7:41pm
Stars And Stripes

Itstricky- thanks for my first uptick on Kiwiblog and be sure you will hold a special place in my heart.
As for the KFC vouchers, sorry WINZ have run out but they assure me it is priority and they are on to it.
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June 21, 2016 7:42pm
Captain Mainwaring

Shit Lucia, I’d get very hungry if I lived at your place.
Dinner all over by 7:00 here.
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June 21, 2016 7:44pm
Lucia Maria

Captain Mainwaring,

If you lived at my place, you wouldn’t get home until 7:35pm (if you were lucky), and dinner would be mere minutes away.

Last week, there were a couple of nights where Dear Husband didn’t get home till 8:30pm a couple of nights, and 11:45pm another night. Though, the 11:45 was a night where he got dinner at the Govis conference. That night, dinner was ready at 6pm.
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June 21, 2016 8:07pm
Lucia Maria

Mike,

Sexual abuse of children, Lucia. As you well know, the Church has aided and abetted this for centuries.

What I know is the Church considers the sexual abuse of children to be such a grievous crime that those who indulge in it are considered to be destined for eternal damnation.
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June 21, 2016 8:11pm
nasska

But what if the abuser was a priest? Wouldn’t he be eligible for special dispensation or something?
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June 21, 2016 8:18pm
stigie

Only if he was ever found out Nasska !~
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June 21, 2016 8:22pm
Captain Mainwaring

Lucia:
The monetary rewards from having such a hard-working husband must be worth it.
Unfortunately I’m a bit old for that.
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June 21, 2016 8:33pm
Lucia Maria

Ok, NCEA maths rant ahead.

I thought that it would be a good idea if I could do one of the NCEA maths papers that Son No. 2 is going to be attempting in a couple of months. I’ve been studying Saxon Advanced Mathematics since last year and am 80% of the way through, so thought it would be interesting to see if I could understand everything in an NCEA algebra exam.

It was all going swimmingly until I got to question One (e) on last year’s Tuesday exam for 90127. Here is the question:

Sam and Jake live 8 km from each other.
Sam skateboards 10 km in the same time as Jake rides his bike 15 km.
If they both leave home at the same time and travel towards each other, how far from Jake’s home will they meet?
You must show the use of algebra.

I drew a diagram. Sam and Jake separated by 8km. And then it didn’t make any sense. How could Sam travel 10 km and Jack travel 15 km, and they both meet somewhere in between the 8km separating them from their houses when they were supposedly traveling towards each other? And where was their individual rate of travel? Without a rate, I had to assume that Sam could travel just as fast as Jake and that the 10 and 15 km was put in just to confuse the poor kid who had to decipher this problem. There seemed to be no option each to veer off anywhere. So, I gave up and looked at the answer to see what was expected.

What I found really annoyed me. Sam skateboards 10 km in the same time as Jake rides his bike 15 km. is a ratio. Not something they did in the problem, just a speed or rate that each were capable of.

If the sentence had been written, “Sam is able to skateboard 10km for every 15km Jake is able to bike, then the sentence would have been far more obvious as to what it meant.

You really have to wonder at the English ability of those that write the maths questions.

And maths is supposed to be about the maths, not interpreting what people who can’t write proper English sentences mean when they ask maths questions. If they can’t write proper English sentences, they ought to 1) Sent their exams to the English dept for vetting (though most likely most English dept people can’t understand maths, so won’t necessarily catch any errors) or 2) go back to asking maths questions in maths language, which will mean that the poor student won’t have to interpret poor English , or 3) get another job and let someone else do it.
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June 21, 2016 8:40pm
mikenmild

Nonsense, Lucia, the pedophile just has to repent and all is fine, right?
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June 21, 2016 8:49pm
itstricky

Sorry to say Lucia but I understood it first time and I don’t have a problem with the sentence. Teaching is supposed to reference real life Quite often one must interpret the maths behind someone’s random statements – deducing that from the sentences and not having it handed to you on a plate is all part of the exercise and test.
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June 21, 2016 8:53pm
Lucia Maria

Nasska,

But what if the abuser was a priest? Wouldn’t he be eligible for special dispensation or something?

No special dispensation.

Every Catholic has the same rights with regards to confession. However, those in mortal sin of the nature of child abuse, etc, where they continue to harm children, are unlikely to avail themselves of the grace of confession before they die.

As many here have intimated, a crime like this is far worse if the perpetrator is a Catholic priest. A man who should know better, a man who is supposed to represent Christ, a man who would something so foul to a child would quite honestly, even if he repented before death, receive a far worse purgatory than anyone else.

And just to be clear, purgatory is like hell, except that purgatory ends and the soul goes to Heaven. Eventually. While as hell is eternal.
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June 21, 2016 8:53pm
Lucia Maria

Itstricky,

Sorry to say Lucia but I understood it first time and I don’t have a problem with the sentence.

I’m not surprised. You had the advantage of an explanation following the problem. It’s obvious in hindsight.
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June 21, 2016 8:55pm
Lucia Maria

Teaching is supposed to reference real life Quite often one must interpret the maths behind someone’s random statements – deducing that from the sentences and not having it handed to you on a plate is all part of the exercise and test.

Totally disagree. In real life you can ask questions if you don’t understand someone’s meaning. Or you can research for more information. None of which is available during exam situations which supposed to test if a child can translate rate and time and distance into numbers that make sense. Trying to decipher badly worded questions is a whole other skill which should be called, “guess what is being asked”.
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June 21, 2016 8:59pm
wiseowl

Stuff has story about a petition to get rid of Mike Hosking.

They plan to go to the Government with this petition.

I am not a fan off Hosking but this is unbelievable .These idiots should just turn the TV off or change the channel!

The fact that 12000 have signed shows what a stuffed up lefty progressive country we have become.

Time to start a petition to get rid of lefty newsreaders.
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June 21, 2016 9:16pm
Gabby

I can’t imagine what could have happened to Liz Gunn’s opinion piece, ‘Mike Hosking is a bullying dildoface’.
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June 21, 2016 9:26pm
Awww C-mon

Evening Gabby,

How is life today in John Keys Neoliberal wonderland?

Did you get the right meds from the friendly nurses? Is the central heating working? Bed comfy enough allowing for the restraints?
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June 21, 2016 9:33pm
cha

Busted.

Russia’s state-run RT network has broadcast footage appearing to show Russian jets in Syria armed with cluster bombs, weapons which are widely condemned for their indiscriminate nature and which Moscow has denied using during its intervention in the five-year-old conflict.

http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-rt-tv-cluster-bombs-syria/27809812.html

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2016/19-june-during-mod-visit-a-su34-was-carrying-5-rbk500-zab
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June 21, 2016 9:47pm
Nookin

Wiseowl

It is somewhat staggering that those to the left of the divide seem to think that they have the right to demand termination of employment of anyone with whom they disagree and break out in pustules of grief and outrage if somebody with whom they agree (Campbell) is discarded.

This happened a few years back when, as I recall, Unite (I think it was Unite) held a protest, along with a multitude of other outraged citizens (who never watched him in the first place) demanding the dismissal of Paul Henry.

You can imagine the outrage if there was a movement to push out Corin Dann , Katie Bradford and Andrea Vance for no reason other than their obvious anti-government prejudices.

That said, television news is utter crap. It is opinionated, subjective and biased. There is Hosking (and probably others) on the right and a gaggle on the left.

Journalism is losing its professionalism and is becoming a vehicle for the opinionated. The answer however is not firing based on selective lobbying. Don’t watch. If a program loses its ratings, it will go. If it does not lose its ratings then that probably means that those who want him fired are a minority.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/81293594/petition-to-get-rid-of-mike-hosking-has-more-than-12000-supporters
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June 21, 2016 9:50pm
fernglas

The French take the Dance of the Flaming A…hole to a whole new level!

“Football fan smuggles 18cm flare in rectum, burns crowd during Euro 2016”
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June 21, 2016 11:41pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Lucia maria
I think that question is fine.
It should be clear to any student that speeds have been identified…distances and time are given (same time…..different distances covered…therefore one moves 1.5x faster than the other).
I hope the correct answer is 4.8km from Jake’s house.
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