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starboard

Suns out and its stopped raining trendsetters. Coupla poached eggs on toast for brekky then down to the surf. Lifes good.
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May 29, 2016 2:16pm
Fisiani

Just had a conversation with a staunch Labour supporter in Wellington. He let slip that 20% of the local members quit after the Chinese names racism and have not returned. That’s several thousand pamphlets less at the next election.
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May 29, 2016 2:18pm
Disaster Area

Burt,
A couple of points. One of the reasons given for the Novapay debacle was that the teaching pay system was stupidly complicated because of management allowances, part-timers, different steps on the pay scale, different qualifications and so forth. Not something the average five year old could cope with if a major Australian company messed it up.

Membership of the Union is OPTIONAL. Lots of teachers I know aren’t members of the PPTA. Guess what, their individual contract is EXACTLY the same as the collective agreement. Why? Because then the teacher and the school knows what is expected of each other.

As for my comment about housing in Auckland, I was trying to make the point that there is a very simple solution to the rise in house prices: sell your house for a cheaper price. Do I seriously think that there will be a sudden rush to sell houses for less? No. But you can’t deny that if everyone lopped $300,000 off their asking price then Auckland housing would be more affordable!
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May 29, 2016 2:20pm
burt

Disaster Area

One of the reasons given for the Novapay debacle was that the teaching pay system was stupidly complicated because of management allowances, part-timers, different steps on the pay scale, different qualifications and so forth. Not something the average five year old could cope with if a major Australian company messed it up.

Exactly, so because we have this national award but we need to recognise each teacher has a different value to a school we have how many thousands of allowances that may or may not apply depending on which other allowances apply. See there are thousands of companies paying more staff than the ministry of Ed. Yet this teachers payroll system is so complicated it needs a special payroll system.

The problem is the root stupidity that we start with a collective and modify it by allowances. Surely a “this is what we pay you based on what you are worth/have negotiated” would be a lot less problematic ?
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May 29, 2016 2:26pm
burt

Disaster Area

Membership of the Union is OPTIONAL. Lots of teachers I know aren’t members of the PPTA. Guess what, their individual contract is EXACTLY the same as the collective agreement. Why? Because then the teacher and the school knows what is expected of each other.

You need to talk to mikenmild, he claims teachers can negotiate their own pay and conditions. He’ll be in tears when he finds out that all they can do is negotiate the same pay and conditions as the collective.
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May 29, 2016 2:29pm
Disaster Area

Burt,
That isn’t what I said. I said that teachers could try and negotiate anything they want. Whether the Principal grants it is another matter entirely!

As for the allowances – at the moment there is a set pay scale with set combinations of allowances. I’m not convinced that having nearly 50,000 teachers all having different salaries would be less complicated.
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May 29, 2016 2:33pm
burt

I’m not convinced that having nearly 50,000 teachers all having different salaries would be less complicated.

Clearly though status quo is broken when a school is spending money buying houses to attract teachers ? Do you at least accept that as a possibility even if you won’t agree it’s the crux of the matter ?
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May 29, 2016 2:34pm
burt

mikenmild

I’m not convinced that having nearly 50,000 teachers all having different salaries would ~~be less complicated.~~ be good for the union.

There mikenmild, I chipped in on your behalf.
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May 29, 2016 2:36pm
Disaster Area

Burt,

The fact that schools are thinking about buying houses to attract teachers is symptomatic of a wider problem. I don’t think that anyone is suggesting that it would be possible to pay teachers (or most other occupations) enough to be able to afford houses, otherwise there wouldn’t be the ‘housing crisis’. For the record, I have no issue with Auckland teachers being paid more, nor colleagues in hard to staff subjects. if they can get more money, all credit to them.

As for belonging to the Union, you have to remember that people are in Unions for more than one reason. You can argue about the mentality of those people, or the motives of the Umion leaders, but let’s face it, if people go to their Principal in dribs and drabs for a pay rise they’d get the ‘well, things are a bit tight at the moment, maybe if there’s more money in the budget. Come and all to me in six month’s time’ routine. However, when the representatives of 50,000 people turn up at the Ministry…
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May 29, 2016 2:47pm
Psycho Milt

Surely a “this is what we pay you based on what you are worth/have negotiated” would be a lot less problematic ?

It’s a lot less problematic for employers, yes. For employees it’s a recipe for shit pay and working conditions, which is why they organise for collective bargaining. Those who prefer to do their own negotiating, or more accurately, prefer to piggy-back on the collective’s negotiating power without contributing anything to said collective, are free to do so, and do.
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May 29, 2016 2:48pm
wiseowl

Here’s a pat question stephieboy.

Does the UN have an agenda called Agenda 2030?
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May 29, 2016 2:52pm
stephieboy

wiseowl, yes they do have an agenda 20130 but it has nothing to do with the construction that Conspiracy theorists and those like you put on it which includes the non sustainable and polluting environment that you seem to yearn for ,

http://katy5c.weebly.com/uploads/2/2/7/1/22714718/2194108.jpg?426

and,

https://climatecrocks.com/2014/04/29/china-slowly-pushing-away-from-fossil-fuel/
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May 29, 2016 3:02pm
Stars And Stripes

Melbourne Riots
The banning of face masks at protests will be examined, with the coverings labelled a “disturbing trend” by the state’s police minister”.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11647049

Yeah good stuff but lets be consistent and ban burqas as well because most normal people find these face masks disturbing as well.
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May 29, 2016 3:06pm
burt

Disaster Area

When the representatives of 50,000 employees turn up at the ministry we get a one-size-fits-all collective that doesn’t work.
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May 29, 2016 3:18pm
burt

Psycho

Of course, these individuals are trained and competent to teach our children but negotiating their own pay is not something they would be able to do and we need a union to hold their hand.

How do you get by even pretending to understand negotiating contracts when you don’t think it’s something a tertiary qualified person is capable of ?
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May 29, 2016 3:21pm
wiseowl

Thank you for acknowledging that stephie.

The fact that this agenda has far reaching effects and costs on our country is what annoys me.

For example the banning of fires and the huge cost of regulation now surrounding logfires , is/was totally unecessary and the claims made to sell this policy such as council staff around the country saying 100 people die in this or that region from breathing emissions arising from woodfires , is just a blatant lie.
The latest move has been the electric car scam which the government have floated.Straight out of agenda 2030.

I think our MP’s should represent their constituents, not the UN.

It is staggering the amount of legislation that is being implemented because of this leftist organisation and it’s influence and what is particularly annoying is that our current left wing politicians can’t see the truth when nodding yes in the house.
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May 29, 2016 3:21pm
stephieboy

Stars and Stripes , you’re obviously favour the True Crew Crew and United Patriots thugs waving the national flag and using them as weapons ?

wiseowl, so you do look forward to a polluting and non satiable world after all . Where does the UN say we should not have log fires and who says our MPS do not represent their local constituents unless you’re rabidly paranoid like you ?
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May 29, 2016 3:41pm
Paulus Gnome

Paulus – ‘I have no problems with the usurper as long as his comments are not construed as mine’

Your ramblings from your listening to radio red on your ipod are of little interest to me; you were a fucktard about this common name 961 entries ago and you continue to be.

Nobody can confuse your ramblings with any thing else other than the rambling that they are.
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May 29, 2016 3:44pm
Stars And Stripes

stephieboy (11,622 comments) says:

May 29th, 2016 at 3:41 pm

Sorry but you are not the real Stephieboy as your English and grammar is rubbish and most of what you have written is barely understandable.
Not a fan of the real Stephieboy either but at least he can do better than this miserable effort.
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May 29, 2016 3:56pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Stephieboy 3:41pm

Where does the UN say we should not have log fires

Here:
http://www.unep.org/publications/ebooks/SLCF/
http://www.unep.org/dewa/Portals/67/pdf/Policies_measures_03.pdf
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May 29, 2016 4:31pm
nasska

Game, set & match to Maggy! 🙂
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May 29, 2016 4:35pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@nasska

Never ask questions you don’t know the answers to.
(? Whaleoil / Burk’s Law)
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May 29, 2016 4:40pm
Nostradamus

Elections are a process by which politicians bribe voters with their own money.

And, in Australia, Bill Shorten has a new spending idea:

More women’s sport will be shown on Australian television under a Labor Government, Opposition Leader Bill Shorten has pledged.

Mr Shorten announced in Canberra this morning his government would fund an extra 500 hours of live women’s sports coverage on ABC television and online.

“We are doing this because we believe that our women athletes deserve comparable coverage to our male athletes,” Mr Shorten said after meeting with a girls’ soccer team.

For once Shorten might be onto something.

Surely I’m not the only one who’d like to see lingerie football pn live TV?
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May 29, 2016 4:43pm
calendar girl

Well done, Maggy. We’ll await (with interest) stephieboy’s reasoned rebuttal.
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May 29, 2016 4:46pm
nasska

….”Surely I’m not the only one who’d like to see lingerie football pn live TV?”…..

Quite true Nostra. Along with naked mud wrestling & topless tennis.

Would beat women’s cricket which is just like normal cricket but at half speed. 🙂
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May 29, 2016 4:51pm
Nostradamus

Stephieboy:

Why do women join the so-called Islamic State (IS)? Is it because they’ve been seduced by promises of kittens and chocolate-hazelnut spread?

This week US Assistant Attorney General John Carlin said terrorist groups like IS were distributing propaganda images online of jihadists posing with kittens and jars of Nutella in a bid to “soften” their image and lure new recruits. “Kittens sell,” Mr Carlin said during his visit to the UK.

I’ve collected some of your “roving reporter looking at sexy Muslim girls” comments here. Do you like kittens and Nutella, too, Stephieboy?
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May 29, 2016 4:52pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

I think lingerie football is particularly well-suited to live TV. We shouldn’t have to put up with selective editing of wardrobe malfunctions. After all, if the punters at the game get to see wardrobe malfunctions like those in my link above, then the punters at home should get to see them in HD too!

On the other hand, unless you’re on Starboard’s deviant list, you wouldn’t want to see naked judges playing petanque…
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May 29, 2016 4:53pm
nasska

I would have thought that ” naked judges playing petanque” would have limited appeal Nostra.

Mind you, “Anal Altar Boys Visit the Vatican, Volume 4” was a runaway success against all odds. 🙂
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May 29, 2016 5:03pm
Stars And Stripes

While we are on the lustful desires of the real Stephieboy and not the semi literate imposter was that you I saw Stephieboy at Three Kings Plaza on Friday grasping your crotch while you watched that Muslim chick eating that banana?.
Poor show as she only got half way down it before you dashed for the toilets.
I saw it you dirty devil.
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May 29, 2016 5:13pm
mikenmild

Lingerie football? Why not?

The Olympics have already seen:
Club swinging
Tug-of-war
Live pigeon shooting
Roller hockey
Swimming obstacle race
Rope climb
Powerboat racing
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May 29, 2016 5:32pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

Anal Altar Boys Visit the Vatican, Volume 4” was a runaway success against all odds

I assume that’s anal as in “an anal retentive person”, not a reference to back-door sex. Actually, on second thought, maybe a person who likes back-door sex is an “an anal retentive person” too? Maybe Starboard can provide us with an expert opinion?
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May 29, 2016 5:42pm
calendar girl

I’m among those who consider that DPF is always entitled to use his blog however he likes. But today I think he needs to know (from this regular follower, at least) how annoying it has been to have that David Farrier / Tickled video opening automatically every time one logs on to Kiwiblog.

Reasonable advertising and promotion are fine, but it should remain optional to open it – or not.
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May 29, 2016 5:46pm
Viking2

wiseowl (2,159 comments) says:
May 29th, 2016 at 9:06 am

Hugh

Don’t mention the word IMMIGRATION.

The root cause of the housing problems IMMIGRATION.
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False evidence appearing real. FEAR.
2- 3 years ago we had empty houses all over the place and Landlords struggling to find tenants.
I’m happy with our extra people.
Oh and 35000 of them are born here. i.e. 65000 births less 30000 deaths.

Another 30000 are Kiwi’s returning to their nest much like a Gannet does,. many of course from Australia who even after they have lived there for many years, worked and paid taxes cannot get ant pension nor medical. Want to fix anything fix that.

About 15000 are genuine migrant’s so that’s only about 5000 houses and the balance are visa immigrants that are here for things like Uni and picking fruit (which Kiwi’s are want not to do, milking cows or working in places like rest homes hospitals and so on. spend some time in a hospital and you will soon see who the qualified and hard working are.

5000 houses is no sweat and it’s also why you will see a surplus start again next year.
Housing is a problem because people either have bad records, have a bad situation or have insufficient income to pay their rent. Without the rent being sufficient Landlords sell, as many have done over the last 6 years and particularly the last year.

Remember the fact that people can sell when they want allows them to do other things like move into villages (who are currently creating somewhere around another 10000 houses a year, or move to another place such as Tauranga or Whangarei, KeriKeri and so on. Much like Cantabrians moved to Nelson and Auckland when their world changed.

Apartments in Auckland are going up faster than one can count. That will fix the student market very soon.

They only crisis is one of timing. Failing finance companies stuffed it for the last 6 -8 years but its on the go again.
Key doesn’t need to remove the council in his undemocratic manner. Perhaps he should stand for mayor of Auckland.
That would fair. Better than behaving like a facist and removing others democratic rights.
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May 29, 2016 5:49pm
Hugh Pavletich

I had not seen this before …

Just more political hari kari by PM Key …

Is there a housing crisis? John Key fails to say yes or no after being put on the spot | ONE News Now | TVNZ

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/there-housing-crisis-john-key-fails-say-yes-no-after-being-put-spot

Is there a housing crisis? John Key fails to say yes or no after being put on the spot … VIEW AND READ MORE VIA HYPWERLINK ABOVE …

Following this POLL RESULT SHOCKER at NEWSHUB a day earlier …

http://www.newshub.co.nz/opinion/opinion-john-keys-govt-has-failed-new-zealand-on-housing-2016052510#axzz49pmzjFPw
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May 29, 2016 5:58pm
starboard

“many of course from Australia who even after they have lived there for many years, worked and paid taxes cannot get ant pension nor medical. Want to fix anything fix that.:

100% correct Viking. Doesn’t it suck big time, paying all that tax and getting next to nothing in return.Thats the main reason I never moved across permanently.

Sux though how Australians can come over here and after 2 years get NZ citizenship.
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May 29, 2016 6:23pm
HB

The Auckland problem was brought up by PPTA with the Ministry of Education but they didn’t give a shit.
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May 29, 2016 6:23pm
nasska

…..”VIEW AND READ MORE VIA HYPWERLINK ABOVE …”….

HYPWERLINK!!!!

They’ve kidnapped Reid…..the bastards! 🙂
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May 29, 2016 6:24pm
starboard

“Maybe Starboard can provide us with an expert opinion? ”

Negative..scott chris’ area of expertise, the male rusty bullet hole.
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May 29, 2016 6:26pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

Want to play a Hugh drinking game?

Reference to John Key: drink!
Reference to housing: drink!
Reference to Hugh’s blog: drink drink drink!
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May 29, 2016 6:27pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

All this talk of leadership battles reminded me of the Stylus song ‘Backstabbers Incorporated’. So here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH1PCqHRdo4
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May 29, 2016 6:29pm
nasska

…..”Reference to Hugh’s blog”….

Has anyone actually visited it? Does it exist?
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May 29, 2016 6:29pm
Happychappy

As long you have MSM, Labour and Green politicians pimping the poor you will have them fronting the media in a attempt to sauce more welfare.Tonights report on the Hub is a great example with twenty-one people living in one house,all family with one occupant moving in with her brother with her ten children.Just wait and see the stream of people run to the media for help to access money from welfare because the media have helped others.
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May 29, 2016 6:30pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

Has anyone actually visited it? Does it exist?

I think your questions need to be the other way round.

Does it exist? Yes.
Has anyone actually visited it? Yes, 1 person, but I was only checking that it exists!
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May 29, 2016 6:33pm
starboard

Had the misfortune to stumble into the strandard blog yesterday, what a bunch of miserable bitter and twisted neanderthals.
Then I started reading some of the comments on Stuff..everything was John Keys fault..and I mean everything.
Now I see a ‘housing crisis’ in Dunedin with slappers giving away a shag for a roof over their heads…John Keys fault again.

Get on a plane and come over here..I’ll show you around a few slums. You’ll stop complaining, I guarantee it.
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May 29, 2016 6:36pm
Nostradamus

Brigitte:

NZ MUSIC MONTH

May has been a busy month for you. Have you made plans for June? Maybe put your feet up and relax?
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May 29, 2016 6:38pm
mikenmild

Get on a plane and come over here. I’ll show you around a few slums

Yes, I’ve heard conditions in Christchurch are still pretty bad post-earthquake.
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May 29, 2016 6:42pm
starboard

Im right up your arse Nosty……………………………………………………………………………………..comments wise.
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May 29, 2016 6:54pm
nasska

….”.comments wise.”….

Nostra’s relief will be palpable! 🙂
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May 29, 2016 6:59pm
Brigitte

“May has been a busy month for you. Have you made plans for June? Maybe put your feet up and relax?”

I was thinking I’d solve the housing crisis, find the missing million, bring peace to the middle east….

….then I woke up. Maybe more of tonight’s planned activities. Pull up a good pussycat, a decent wine, and watch a movie.
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May 29, 2016 7:03pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

For a fleeting second I thought the Hugh drinking game had backfired spectacularly – oh yes, backfired, ho ho ho!

Bridgette:

I was thinking I’d solve the housing crisis, find the missing million, bring peace to the middle east

All excellent suggestions.

But you can leave the housing crisis to Hugh – he seems to think about it 24/7/365. And no need to worry about the missing million – Angry Andrew will never find them. As for the solution to the Middle East, I think we should send Stephieboy on a one-way trip.

So you may as well go with your relaxation plan – feet up and glass of your favourite beverage. Now how does the pussy cat fit into that relaxation plan exactly?
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May 29, 2016 7:03pm
starboard

Phil Ure..just thought Id throw that in for shits and giggles. I wonder if he ever sold Whoar ( news aggregate site, snigger snort ) to the Americans ?
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May 29, 2016 7:09pm
starboard

Hows ya mum mm..dont worry, I’ll roll over and ask ‘er..
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May 29, 2016 7:11pm
Nostradamus

That’d be a negative, Starboard.

I’ve just checked out Whoar and the top items are:

‘skin orgasms’ from music..
review: tickled.. [he’s too lazy to write his own review so he’s ripped-off the NZ Herald one]
‘pakistani men can beat wives ‘lightly’ – say islamic council’..
interview: ‘what life in a cult was like’..
‘why people don’t trust hillary clinton’..

If you were a wealthy American, would you want to buy Philu’s blog?
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May 29, 2016 7:13pm
mikenmild

Mum hasn’t been to Christchurch again since that last time you couldn’t get it up, starboard. Even 80 year olds have standards…
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May 29, 2016 7:17pm
nasska

starboard

Don’t you get a bit concerned about the risks of playing hide the sausage in Vietnam? As young blokes we used to go over to Wellington quite often to play up, get pissed & hopefully score. This was in the late 60s when the Yank boats were visiting NZ to give their crews R&R.

Generally no one in their right mind would shag anything or anyone for about six weeks after the boats left. Diseases they left behind included Hong Kong Dong, Vietnam Rose & the Suva Disease all of which were incurable, at least according to urban legend.

If I were you I’d be using condoms made in the same factory that produces inner tubes for truck tyres. 🙂
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May 29, 2016 7:17pm
starboard

Ah well, Phil Ure is a sad example of what drugs can do to you, and to think he used to drive a bus for the ARC back in the 80’s..lol would be the only Mercedes he’s ever driven as well !
I hope he has given up armed robbery ?
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May 29, 2016 7:18pm
Brigitte

@Nostradamus, cat is nice and warm, gives a nice massage (also known as kneading, which she does without claws).
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May 29, 2016 7:20pm
starboard

Thailand nasska, buddy. Mate at my stage of life I still take good care of myself, but I’m not too concerned. I always wear something, and if the lady du jour says ” no worry, you not wear one”..I move her on. There are plenty who will go sans, but they usually look like a twisted gumboot, with no concern for their, or their customers safety.
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May 29, 2016 7:28pm
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND HOUSING: PM JOHN KEY’S BLUNDERING … LIKE THE OLD MERRILL LYNCH DAYS ? …

From Vanity Fair … November 2010 …

The Blundering Herd | Vanity Fair

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2010/11/financial-crisis-excerpt-201011

For nearly a century of solid profitability, Merrill Lynch was the company that brought Wall Street to Main Street, turning tens of millions of Americans into investors. But by the early 2000s, under C.E.O. Stanley O’Neal, it had developed a raging case of Goldman Sachs envy and began a blind stampede into unprecedented risk. In an excerpt from their new book, Bethany McLean and Joe Nocera chart the evisceration of the “Mother Merrill” culture as the firm crashed head-on with the mortgage meltdown. … read more via hyperlink above …

Prime Minister Key blundering with Television One …

Is there a housing crisis? John Key fails to say yes or no after being put on the spot | ONE News Now | TVNZ

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/there-housing-crisis-john-key-fails-say-yes-no-after-being-put-spot

… following the ‘shocker’ NEWSHUB / Reid Research Poll result of a day earlier …

Opinion: John Key’s Govt has failed New Zealand on housing | Opinion | Newshub#axzz49pmzjFPw#axzz49pmzjFPw

http://www.newshub.co.nz/opinion/opinion-john-keys-govt-has-failed-new-zealand-on-housing-2016052510#axzz49pmzjFPw
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May 29, 2016 7:30pm
Nostradamus

Drink drink drink – and a reference to “MERRILL LYNCH” – that’s a scull!

(Hugh, if you have any sense of social responsibility, you’ll stop before Kiwiblog readers playing the Hugh drinking game go blotto)
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May 29, 2016 7:32pm
cha

The short fingered vulgarian’s plan B.
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The preemptive fretting about how the RNC plans to spend its money this fall makes some Republicans think that Trump, who has repeatedly insulted Mitt Romney for failing to defeat President Obama in the 2012 presidential election, is preparing to protect his reputation if Hillary Clinton wins.

“He’s going to blame it on the RNC if he doesn’t win in November,” the first source said. “They’re laying that groundwork now.

Manafort’s statements suggest that Trump won’t be using a significant amount of his own money to boost his campaign over the summer. And Trump’s plan to rely on media networks to fend off Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party’s attacks left Republicans with mixed feelings.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-camp-concedes-its-low-on-money/article/2592501
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May 29, 2016 7:35pm
starboard

‘Even 80 year olds have standards…’

No..no, she doesn’t I’m sorry I to have say.
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May 29, 2016 7:36pm
Fletch

Does anyone know when the third Hobbit movie is/was on TV? I saw the first two and I thought the third one was on tonight, but it isn’t….
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May 29, 2016 7:53pm
Psycho Milt

How do you get by even pretending to understand negotiating contracts when you don’t think it’s something a tertiary qualified person is capable of ?

I don’t recall claiming that teachers are incapable of negotiating contracts, but then you don’t seem to bother much with what people have actually said.
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May 29, 2016 7:58pm
Nostradamus

Two of the best comeback responses ever seen on Kiwiblog:

Starboard v Scott Chris

Starboard: sorry scottchris, just been busy bangin away on ya mama..did you say something ?

Scott Chris: Well she’s been dead for a couple of years, but that doesn’t surprise me weirdo. Would you mind closing the lid and filling in the grave on your way out.

Starboard v Mikenmild

Starboard: Hows ya mum mm..dont worry, I’ll roll over and ask ‘er..

Mikenmild: Mum hasn’t been to Christchurch again since that last time you couldn’t get it up, starboard. Even 80 year olds have standards…

So who came out on top? For my part, I’d say it’s pretty evenly-balanced.
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May 29, 2016 7:59pm
Happychappy

Who in their right mind would have ten children when you are collecting welfare, haven’t they heard about contraception. Years ago my father used to say to my sisters boyfriends you know it’s not like a moneybox because what you put in you can’t takeout ,never a truer statement said in jest.
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May 29, 2016 8:02pm
Stars And Stripes

Happy – Labour voters and bludgers but come to think of it they are the same thing really.
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May 29, 2016 8:05pm
starboard

aw its starboard, hands down..hands down I tells ya..

Righto, its been fun but happy hours calling, 3 til 7, think I’ll start with a passion fruit mojito ..yum yum pigs bum. Ciao x
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May 29, 2016 8:09pm
Griff

aw its starboard, hand down..hand ~~down~~up hand down fap fap fap I tells ya..
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May 29, 2016 8:12pm
Tauhei Notts

Just been watching CNN or Fox, I forget which one; but;
The thing that got me was the piece from June 2015 and today; Donald Trump has aged 10 years in the past eleven months.
Like me, you have been enjoying the presidential game, for that it is what it is, a game. But like test match rugby it is terribly taxing on the players.
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May 29, 2016 8:48pm
mikenmild

His hairs is ageless, though, so that’s all good.
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May 29, 2016 8:52pm
nasska

….”His hairs is ageless, though, so that’s all good”…..

And who had a double helping of bitch-flakes this morning? 🙂
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May 29, 2016 9:01pm
mikenmild

It will look good on Mount Rushmore though.
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May 29, 2016 9:05pm
Nostradamus

Tauhei Notts:

Yes, but unlike test match rugby, Trump is unlikely to suffer a groin injury – unless he sleeps around in Washington DC circles.
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May 29, 2016 9:11pm
mikenmild

Nostradamu
I think we can be we sure that Trump has been active enough in that regard:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html
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May 29, 2016 9:13pm
cha

Those bad feet certainly didn’t hold The Chickenhawk back.

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/271429/donald-trump-draft-dodger/
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May 29, 2016 9:47pm
Komata

Concerning Maggie W’s slap-down of the duty Stephieboy at 1631: Absolutely brilliant Ma’am; well played.

Noticeably the collective SB’s have been subsequently ‘missing in action’ with the resulting ‘deafening silence’ being very welcome.

As I said, Maggie W; well played; might I respectfully tender my congratulations. They are definitely in order.

(Thought you would like to know).
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May 29, 2016 10:27pm
Left Right and Centre

.Does anyone know when the third Hobbit movie is/was on TV? I saw the first two and I thought the third one was on tonight, but it isn’t….

You mean they made **three** of them ? Get out of here !!
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May 29, 2016 10:54pm
Lance

Breathless and breaking news updates on the Hoorald on Max Keys 21st

Wankers
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May 29, 2016 11:06pm
Left Right and Centre

Other Tennant’s get one of the state homes and think it is their god damn right to live in it for the rest of their lives,therefor stopping younger family’s from accessing the home they need.

You mean like these weirdos . . .
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/77901017/Seatoun-Housing-New-Zealand-tenants-lose-home-of-18-years
Wah wah wah don’t make us leave ‘our house’. We like the neighbours and the wallpaper has special meaning.
They couldn’t give a fuck about a housing crisis. Take, take, take from day of arrival and it’s been all about them since forever.

http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/auckland-family-of-21-lives-in-2-bedroom-home-2016052917#axzz4A2evegQf
There’s so many that they don’t actually account for all 21. Mother and ten kids. Two parents and two kids. That’s 15. Cousin and two kids. That’s 18. The other three ?? Where are they ? I can’t see them listed.

Who told her to have ten children ? Fathers ? It’s fathers plural, eh ? Ten kids – it’s all JK’s fault. Govt should give me a big new house for as many kids as I want to have. Anyone would be broke with ten kids. What a fuckwit. I mean – really – what a fuckin FUCKWIT MORON !!

That’s her problem – fuck her. Don’t complain. No-one asked her to do that to herself and that many children. It’s not the kids’ fault but they can’t breed like that with everyone else paying for them. Fuck them. Overcrowded ? Well – fucking – duh you meh meh stupid bitch. How did that happen ? Did you wake up with ten kids one day idiot ? Murgh – where did they all come from ? It’s fuckin crowded in here eh ? Far out – ten – shit it’s crowded mate. Didn’t know they’d take up this much space, they keep getting bigger too. Shit it’s crowded. I wonder if I have another if that’ll fix it ? 11 . . . 12. Nope – it’s still quite fucking crowded man. If you gave her seven bedrooms she’d have twenty kids. Just be thankful it’s too crowded for her to keep shoving penises up her factory – or there bloody would be more.
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May 29, 2016 11:51pm
Hugh Pavletich

… SOME STRAIGHT TALKING …

TALKING HOUSING AFFORDABILITY ACROSS THE GLOBE WITH HUGH PAVLETICH … HEATHER DU PLESSIS-ALAN … NEW ZEALAND RADIO LIVE

http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Talking-housing-affordability-across-the-globe-with-Hugh-Pavletich/tabid/506/articleID/122978/Default.aspx

Heather is joined by Hugh Pavletich, Co-author of Demographia Housing Affordability Survey ( http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf ) to talk about policy in New Zealand and across the world for tackling housing affordability.
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May 30, 2016 2:25am
Viking2

Don;t bother going to the races. The nazi’s have been.

The kegs will be dry and the wine glasses empty at Trentham Racecourse for the first time next month after it failed a police booze sting on Wellington Cup Day.

But drunk punters horsing were not to blame for Wellington Racing Club breaching its liquor licence on January 23.

Rather, it was an underage buyer with no ID being served alcohol on the seventh attempt of a police sting, after six previous efforts to illegally purchase alcohol had failed.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/80511356/Booze-ban-for-Trentham-Racecourse-after-minors-were-served-alcohol-at-Wellington-Cup-Day
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Why don’t the police and the Nats. (who establish this policy), just not close down all the alcohol sales completely just like prohibition? That would be a more honest stance. But honesty isn’t their strongest point is it.
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