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May 22, 2016 12:34pm by David Farrar

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nasska

William Lord Kelvin (1824–1907) had the misfortune of living in an era when all knowledge was ascribed to The Lord SGA.

If he’d got too cocky they would have declared him a heretic or banished him to the colonies. 🙂
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May 22, 2016 8:50pm
SGA

@nasska
lol – in fact, from memory, a boy from the colonies introduced, in a public lecture attended by Kelvin, a mechanism that scuppered his calculation of the age of the earth. He’s on our $100 note 🙂
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May 22, 2016 8:54pm
Manolo

Interesting transformation: from failed poet to false prophet of AGW doom.
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May 22, 2016 9:00pm
Nostradamus

Mikenmild:

… a sign advertising a lecture about God’s plan …

That’s all you needed to say – the resident Kiwiblog theologian (Nasska) will be there in a flash!
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May 22, 2016 9:05pm
Reid

AGW bollocks is a good example of a well known aphorism which says:

There is nothing so vigorously defended as a vested interest disguised as an intellectual conviction.

The vested interest of scientists invested in AGW bollocks is of course, they get to do “science” because they get grants for it. If they of course come out with results which disprove the proposition for which they got the grant then they know they get treated like Walt and Mearsheimer so they don’t and they never do. This is how boiling water to make electricity by using a nuclear reaction that requires generating waste with a 10,000 year half-life also got off the ground. I mean duh. Who would do that, it’s fucking mental. Yet it happens, it’s been happening for decades, and no-one, ever, talks about what’s going to happen in the next 500 years to the storage, let alone the next 10,000. And does anyone, duh, think the companies that generated it are going to be around in 20,000 years and have paid for the storage replacements in all that time? Duh. Yet scientists “assure” the sheeple it’s all fucking fine. Why? Vested interest, you see.
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May 22, 2016 9:06pm
mikenmild

Reid is so comically stupid that I sometimes wonder if he is a parody of a deranged obsessive…
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May 22, 2016 9:08pm
Manolo

The pendulum swings. The next ruler of Austria:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3602832/The-pistol-packing-extremist-set-Austria-s-FUHRER-Politician-Far-Right-candidate-elected-head-state-continent-WWII.html
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May 22, 2016 9:10pm
SGA

@Reid
There must be more to it than that though – the vast international conspiracy of scientists wouldn’t be able to do this with the tacit approval of the Illuminati/NWO/reptilian overlords/whatever, so there’s obviously a much deeper plan involved here.
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May 22, 2016 9:10pm
cha

a much deeper plan involved here.

Dastardly deeds……

Scott Westerfeld Verified account
‏@ScottWesterfeld

Plot idea: 97% of the world’s scientists contrive an environmental crisis, but are exposed by a plucky band of billionaires & oil companies.

https://twitter.com/scottwesterfeld/status/446805144781348865
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May 22, 2016 9:16pm
Captain Mainwaring

“rf rf, that’s the difference between being promincer and … not.”

Gobstopper, when you make no fucking sense, expect another downtick.
Idiot.
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May 22, 2016 9:19pm
Reid

SGA, AGW is bollocks, isn’t it.

Or do you think it isn’t?

Assuming you’re not that profoundly stupid, what’s your better explanation?

While you’re at it, explain how the nuclear industry gets away with the obvious issue I raised too. How is that possible? How is that “scientific?”
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May 22, 2016 9:33pm
SGA

@Reid
Heavens – all I’m trying to do is to understand the relationship between the vast international conspiracy of scientists and the Illuminati/NWO/reptilian overlords/whatever (cross out whichever don’t apply to you in particular). If anyone knew, I’d assumed it would be you.
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May 22, 2016 9:39pm
mikenmild

Don’t forget the Zionists, SGA. They’re bound to be mixed up in it too.
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May 22, 2016 9:43pm
SGA

@mikenmild
That’s because I’ve get confused about the Zionists – are the Illuminati a subset of the Zionists or viceversa, or are they overlapping groups, or are they in competition with each other? I can never seem to keep it straight.
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May 22, 2016 9:49pm
Reid

@SGA
Heavens – all I was asking was for you to explain why thousands and thousands of scientists have validated the economics of storing hundreds of thousands of tonnes of poisonous corrosive waste that penetrates over tens or hundreds of years concrete and steel for tens of thousands of years.

It’s a perfectly logical question. Anyone who knows anything about nuclear waste knows that it penetrates those materials. Chernobyl is already requiring a new dome, for instance.

So no answers then?

No.

There isn’t one really, is there.

Still, that has to raise skepticism about other scientific prognostications, doesn’t it.

Unless you’re an idiot, of course.
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May 22, 2016 9:52pm
SGA

@Reid
You disappoint me with your deflection. I asked you a perfectly clear question about the vast international conspiracy of scientists and the Illuminati (who may or may not be tied in the Zionists somehow)/NWO/reptilian overlords/whatever, and what do I get? Lots of mumbling about nuclear waste.
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May 22, 2016 9:56pm
Reid

SGA surprised you’re adopting slimy and stupidboy’s tactics of pretending someone’s said the thing you prefer to discuss rather than the thing they actually did say.

I must say I used to think you were better than those bottom feeders, but evidently not.

Good to know.
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May 22, 2016 10:03pm
Dennis Horne

@Reid. Try explaining to the people in Florida that AGW is bollocks. Of course you would need to disclose your qualifications in science and so on.

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/05/marco-rubio-climate-change-denier-south-florida-flood-crisis-420326.html
“Senator Marco Rubio, a Republican from Florida and 2016 Republican presidential candidate, is a climate change denier. His hometown of Miami is slowly being overtaken by the ocean eroding due to rising sea levels.

“An unusual January storm bent palm trees and turned city sidewalks into creeks as a small group of Miami-area mayors and administrators huddled in Pinecrest, one of Miami-Dade County’s 34 municipalities. They had come at the invitation of Pinecrest’s mayor to discuss rising sea levels, long predicted by climate change scientists and now regularly inundating their towns. The mood in the room was somewhere between pessimism and panic.

…

“Rubio lives in West Miami, 9 feet above sea level and a few miles inland. When I visited his neighborhood during that January rainstorm, a shallow pond had formed in the middle of his street and the sidewalk was underwater. As the water table rises, groundwater bubbles up through storm drains. As that happens more often, in addition to flooding streets, it will cause more than a million septic tanks in the Miami area to bust, and if engineering precautions are not taken soon, that will contaminate the groundwater. At that point, the city will be, literally, in the shit.”
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May 22, 2016 10:07pm
Biscuit

More tiresome stuff from ONE News tonight…

A march is held ‘protesting’ child abuse … and yet there is no acknowledgement, either by the ONE News reporter involved or by the marcher, that the problem is essentially one of ethnicity. And that no solution will be found until 1) that fact is acknowledged and 2) the ethnic group most commonly involved takes steps to remedy its abusive attitudes.

A car fleeing police crashes and we are told ‘once again attention focusses on Police chases’. Erm, maybe in Leftwonderland it does but to me it focusses attention on the fact that yet another dolt/set of dolts have chosen not to follow the law.

A solo Mum, having gotten pregnant AGAIN and (presumably) with a partner no longer in the picture, gets to bemoan ‘WINZ indifference’ to her plight.

A failing Labour Party leader lectures us about National ‘failing’ middle New Zealand (without, natch, offering a single coherent alternative policy) … when in the very front row of his audience are a gaggle of Labour Party Members of Parliament who, provably, wouldn’t know what middle New Zealand was if it bit them on their collective bums.

Tedious stuff!
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May 22, 2016 10:18pm
Left Right and Centre

mikenmild is thought to be a govt desk jockey – you could interpret prodigious posting output a number of ways. It might well be chicken feed compared to a slavish day of intense box-ticking ‘productivity’ – hehehe. Tawa is full of the weirdo minority churches – all ‘recent newcomers’ to the market. Same thing finally happened with TV channels / pay TV last 10-25 years. Which one do you go for ? Too many options. Need a Consumer survey.

shit-for-mayor is a joke candidate. A nut crushed by KB sledgehammers. Yeah – water is free mate – so fuck off to a stream and take as much free water as you want. Town supply costs to run – pay up.

Biscuit steals my thunder at TV1 news. It was just full of dumbarse drongo dross. Bro – we need to value these lives – children are our future. Yeah, no shit. Well – the people involved were kids once. Look how they turned out. That’s what the future looks like. That grandmother – what a thick dropkick she was. Thick as a brick. Thank goodness no cops were hurt in the latest chase. An occupant in the fleeing car died. I’m heartbroken – died while their mate puts every innocent bystander at risk with lowlife actions.

The Govt could do something – they could in theory do all kinds of things to meddle in the private affairs of underclarsehole clusterfuck whanaus – give greater powers for authorities to step in etc It either won’t or is very unlikely to ever happen. Civil liberties fairies will cry possible abuse of power.

It’s not just what you see – it’s what doesn’t make the news. The daily hum-drum abuse / neglect total lack of parenting skill or care, life skills – love or laughter or learning. Poor diet, squalid living conditions, not brushing teeth, giving your kids little junk food packets in lunch every day, buying them soft drink bottles every day. They’re just dumb. Why do you think they’re thick ? Their parents were thick. The kids have next to no chance.

Topics to avoid then – religion, climate change, Israel . . .and I’ll say gender identities. But not politics of course.

I read that KFC Blenheim can’t find any willing sweat shop participants and had to (ye gods) close their drive-thru. And then half the comments bagged their local KFC as being Kompletely Forking Craptastic. Slipping the PC terminology net was this delightful soon to be re-designated old gem; blah blah blah ‘manning the terminals’. Suggestions anyone ? ‘Personing the terminals ?’ Humaning ? Peopleing ? Manning / Womanning to make it gender specific depending on how they identify themselves ?

It’s been done to death but – where do KFC get their little wee ‘chicken pieces’ from, huh ? They are tiny. Small, small, small. There’s a 20XL Islander in a hurry somewhere than can gulp those eeny-weeny pieces down whole unchewed. Pathetic. Wouldn’t you love to weigh the white meat you get from a ‘three piece’ pack ? It says chicken – now, where is it mate ? I don’t go there – I’d probably faint if I saw what they charged for a ‘killed at two months old chicken piece’. I proudly couldn’t tell you what fast food prices are. KFC is ok. Pity about the off-putting deal-breaking high number of fat dumbfaced losers that dream about their next visit all day.
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May 23, 2016 1:13am
Left Right and Centre

General local underclarsehole supermarkets . . .

I offered a mother to teach her boy about sugar in breakfast cereals, I was fretting myself at buying muesli – all of which seem to start at 20% added sugar. She said ‘he won’t understand anything about sugar’. I’ll bet there are plenty of parents out there who are very able to explain the concept of added sugar to their same age children. Moving on . . .

I saw a younger white fella – one side of his neck and up his face 100% tattoed. It’s like tattoo chicken. I dare you to see how much you can ink. Fuck it was ugly. The young today and people in general have never been worse looking. Tats, piercings, ugly clothes, ugly hair – fat as anything. He wasn’t fat at least – but at the bulk bins and eyeing up the chocolate of course – a young Island girl. Fat as anything. She was perfectly round like some kind of farm silo. Very pretty dress. If she pissed on a cat she’d look like a UFO trying to abduct it for probing. She was pretty in her dress the same way that Bruce Jenner is pretty in a dress. I wonder what her dietary intake looks like ? Wouldn’t you love to know ?

Let’s see what the bottom-feeders are ruining their health with . . .

Receipt numero uno – it’s the old underclass one-two, nappies and Doritos. Eta Spuds. Fanta 2.25. Kit Kat bar, Mars Bar. Sour Cream. An apple and Weetbix 750g.

Receipt numero dorito – I mean dos – fuck me, it’s longer than the damn keyboard this one – real quarter-pounder with cheese . . .
This person just buys multiples of everything. Maggi gravy x 6. Maggi tomato SFAC x 4. Oak spag x 5. V/F Raspberry x 4. Country Soft blend x 2 ($11 on that shit) $5 on 95% meat free ham and chicken. FNF yoghurt x 2 – $10 (whoa) lamb pack $15 x 2 (cha-ching). 1kg cheese. instand coffee x 2. Mint bikkies 3 for $5. Spuds 10kg. tomato sauce x 2 – kg plus that is. Chippies x 3 – $5.40. Shitty pasta snack crap x 5. Budget cookies peanut x 2. ~~Griff~~ grif cam/crm $2.80. What is Ing banq/ C20 ? $8 each anyway – two of them. Fish cakes – $6.50. Mince pie 6 pack x 2 $6 each. And some other boring crap. All up **$251**. Fresh brisket x 2 total $17. Truks chicken mince x 2 total $6.60. Sausages – $14. Holy hell. Instant noodles $5.70

It was a brown fella in a hi-viz vest. Saw him leave. Not fat. I don’t know about you but I’ve had to wear hi-viz gear – first thing you want to do is take that crap off the first second you can. He’s got a great diet – every meal is party time. Meat content very near dog levels and about as high quality. Peas and potatoes – even the produce items are the highest possible energy value. I’d let the potatoes go reluctantly. He probably makes an actual food pyramid out of them. Are we having fun yet ? You’re hungry now, aren’t you ? Why don’t you get yourself some cheese supreme doritos with some saucy salsa ? Yah yah yah – eat to the latin beat. You’ll turn into a dorito ya dipchip !!
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May 23, 2016 1:51am
Left Right and Centre

PS – general peasant TV – I’m a moron. I know this because I had to suffer the pain of the last two minutes of some shit called My Kitchen Rules – even on mute and ‘quartered’ – to catch the start of The Simpsons. It lasted all of (no shit) three minutes to the first break – and that was me gone.

Also watched a bit of Sunday hosted by old mouth deformity. Their trick is to go to a final break for twenty minutes and come back for two minutes to preview next week’s done to death schlock. Really ? Who the fuck do they think they’re kidding with that bullshit nonsense carry-on ? So – it actually ends at the start of the last break. Don’t think that I’m intently being suckered by any of this like a total insufferable fuckwit btw – I was making food and faffing about. It has to be pretty fucking good for me to wait longer than one second for a programme to come back on. And even then – mute and ‘quartered’ minimum. If a programme is that good – I’ll set my stopwatch. Heat something slowly in the microwave for four mins thirty. Ding !! Ads are cooked. Fuck them and their braindead stupidity adverts. What kind of feckless retard can take that incredible abuse ?
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May 23, 2016 2:09am
Scott1

An important thing to realize about Parker vs Anthony Joshua (AJ) is that AJ has long arms and hits very hard. If Parker fights like he did in this Takam fight AJ will beat him quite easily. Hopefully he works out the kinks before he takes that fight.
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May 23, 2016 7:44am
LisaGinNZ

To Keeping Stock who says:

“Not even the Government can stop sick people who get their jollies from torturing helpless kids like Moko and all the other names on the Roll of Shame. Someone much closer to home needs to speak up for the ones who can’t.”

Perhaps the Government can make ADOPTION much easier so unwanted children, babies aren’t foisted upon “family” members or “friends” who don’t want them either.

Let a vetted family adopt. The culture of “staying” with family doesn’t work – if the family IS the problem.
Change adoption laws.
Change the (crap) culture, too.
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May 23, 2016 9:00am
mikenmild

News from Jesusland: gotta have that gun ready in case a toddler won’t stop jumping on the bed:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/05/21/texas_teen_shoots_kills_three_year_old_stepson_for_jumping_on_bed.html
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May 23, 2016 9:16am
UglyTruth

Elijah Wood: ‘Hollywood in the grip of child abuse scandal similar to Jimmy Savile’

Hollywood is in the grip a child sexual abuse scandal similar to that of Jimmy Savile in Britain, Lord of the Rings star Elijah Wood has claimed.

The 35-year-old former child actor said paedophiles had been protected by powerful figures in the movie business and that abuse was probably still taking place.

In an interview with the Sunday Times, Wood said he had been protected from abuse as he was growing up, but that other child actors had been regularly “preyed upon” at parties by industry figures.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/22/hollywood-in-the-grip-of-child-abuse-scandal-similar-to-jimmy-sa/
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May 23, 2016 9:56am
dave_c_

Good to see ‘People Power’ in Oregon – Defeat Nestle’s attempt to privatise their water !
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May 23, 2016 12:24pm

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