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May 20, 2016 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 20 May 2016

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DifferentPerspective

Well – this should push Winnie ahead of the Greens into being the leader of the 3rd largest party.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/80214520/we-dont-have-to-build-a-wall–winston-peters-talks-immigration

With all of the protest party votes coming his way because of National’s move to become “Labour Lite” and their utter stupidity about muslim immigrants this is just the thing to bump NZ First to a solid 14 or 15 seats.

I see rats. Dead rats! And I see National’sl leaders swallowing those dead rats! It’s going to be 1996 all over again (brought to you by MMP – the stupidest electoral system in existence).
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May 20, 2016 7:55pm
Don the Kiwi

Confirmatio of Clive’s VC on Crete

Alfred Clive Hulme – 1941; Crete, Greece

During the period 20/28 May 1941 in Crete, Greece, Sergeant Hulme displayed outstanding leadership and courage. At Maleme he led a party against the enemy who were attacking with rifles, machine-guns and mortars. At Galatos he drove the enemy away from a school building with hand grenades. At Suda Bay he killed five snipers and at Styles he wiped out a mortar crew and accounted for three more snipers.
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May 20, 2016 7:56pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Don the Kiwi

two VCs awarded to NZers during the Crete campaign
Alfred Clive Hulme and Charles Upham

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/victoria-cross/nz-vc-winners
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May 20, 2016 8:00pm
AgentBallSack

Hardly fair longknives. School teachers are the ones that have to deal with the future criminals daily as theyre going bad in front of their eyes.I would want to get the fuck away from the place as fast as I could too.
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May 20, 2016 8:13pm
Don the Kiwi

Thanks Maggie.
Here’s the full citation.Sergeant Alfred Clive Hulme, 23rd Battalion, 2NZEF
Alfred Hulme VC
Alfred Hulme
Date of action: 20–28 May 1941 (Crete)
Date of award: 14 October 1941

Dunedin-born Alfred Hulme won a Victoria Cross (VC) for a series of heroic acts on Crete. A sergeant with 23rd Battalion, he led a series of counter-attacks against German paratroops around Maleme airfield on 20–21 May 1941. Four days later he played a prominent part in the New Zealand counter-attack at Galatas, clearing a dangerous German position with hand grenades. After hearing that his younger brother had been killed, Hulme began hunting down German snipers. On occasions he disguised himself as a German to get close to his targets. Hulme was ruthlessly efficient – he is believed to have killed more than 30 enemy snipers. He also killed the crew of a heavy mortar that was threatening the withdrawal before being seriously wounded. See also: full citation (pdf); more information

Despite being called a liar about 2 years ago, I spoke about Clive’s ability to “divine” things – or search and find things through his sensory perception.
He told us that that is how he was able to hunt down and search out well hidden German snipers – peaople are fee to doubt – but when I spoke to the man, and with no other means than his own sensory perception, he found my brother’s gold wedding ring that Bruce had hidden 300 hundred meters away under a railway sleeper on a railway track, I believed him and his ability. Bloody amazing.
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May 20, 2016 8:17pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I think you must have misheard the TV clip

I’ve just rerun it and they do name Hulme…. (perhaps with a slightly different pronunciation)
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/nz-soldiers-remembered-75-years-battle-crete
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May 20, 2016 8:20pm
Don the Kiwi

Okay Maggy. Thanks for that
My hearing is not as good as it used to be – you probably know what I mean. 🙂
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May 20, 2016 8:21pm
nasska

….”I believed him and his ability. Bloody amazing.”….

To be fair Don, you do have a bit of a track record over this gullibility issue! 🙂
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May 20, 2016 8:21pm
Don the Kiwi

I think ,nasska, if you were there and witnessed it, you would have a different perspective.

Believe me, this type of thing is not a part of my belief system – but to witness it? Something else.
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May 20, 2016 8:26pm
Griff

Woooo woooooo .
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May 20, 2016 8:39pm
Stars And Stripes

Big crowds expected at March for Moko event
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=

About 990 Aucklanders have confirmed to attend the march on Facebook.

Over 1000 Cantabrians have committed to march for Moko and about 936 in Hamilton.

Big crowds ???????
Not on these numbers.
What a farce.
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May 20, 2016 9:06pm
rightoverlabour

Longknives, actually no, I have inlaws that were Commissioners of Police. I don’t teach kids to FTP, but the police in their stupidity of enforcing ridiculous speeding laws bring this upon them selves. The commissioner I speak of often said the problem with modern policing is that they have lost the art of discretion. I am an ex Commissioned Officer, and I understand the rule of Law, but I also understand the necessity of common sense and not pissing off those you wish to have assist you in the fight against real crime. Yes, I was going 76 in a 70 rural zone. 99% of people travel at between 8 and 10k/h over the limit. Leave us alone and sort out the real criminals, the pissed drivers, the baby killers.
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May 20, 2016 9:20pm
sooty

TOO LITTLE. TOO LATE. Says it all don’t it
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May 20, 2016 9:28pm
Sponge

I am somewhat surprised that the usual nutters have not suggested that the EgyptAir plane going down is not a “false flag” operation to ensure that Trump gets to the White House. I mean is would be unbelievable that it could be yet another mad muslim bastard.
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May 20, 2016 10:26pm
Captain Mainwaring

2 guys called Mohammed in the cockpit of MS804.
That’s not a good look.
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May 20, 2016 10:28pm
Captain Mainwaring

It was a boring flight late at night. They were probably arguing over who was prepared to make the greatest sacrifice in the name of the prophet Mohammed.
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May 20, 2016 10:41pm
mikenmild

It must be very unusual to have pilots named Mohammed flying for Egypt Air, Captain. Everyone knows that Mohammed is a terrorist name, eh?
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May 20, 2016 10:59pm
mikenmild

Before he went on about the woo, Don was talking about Clive Hulme. Got the VC, but arguably lucky he wasn’t caught by the Germans and shot as a war criminal…
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May 20, 2016 11:00pm
Sponge

Everyone knows that Mohammed is a terrorist name, eh?

Well Mohammed is a more common name than Kevin when it comes to vile atrocities.
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May 20, 2016 11:04pm
cha

Descent and speed gradients tally with sudden depressurisation.

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/733167077255712768
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May 20, 2016 11:11pm
starboard

Thats what I like about you mm>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fuck all..
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May 20, 2016 11:13pm
Dennis Horne

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/05/marco-rubio-climate-change-denier-south-florida-flood-crisis-420326.html
Senator Marco Rubio, a Republican from Florida and 2016 Republican presidential candidate, is a climate change denier. His hometown of Miami is slowly being overtaken by the ocean eroding due to rising sea levels.

An unusual January storm bent palm trees and turned city sidewalks into creeks as a small group of Miami-area mayors and administrators huddled in Pinecrest, one of Miami-Dade County’s 34 municipalities. They had come at the invitation of Pinecrest’s mayor to discuss rising sea levels, long predicted by climate change scientists and now regularly inundating their towns. The mood in the room was somewhere between pessimism and panic.

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Rubio lives in West Miami, 9 feet above sea level and a few miles inland. When I visited his neighborhood during that January rainstorm, a shallow pond had formed in the middle of his street and the sidewalk was underwater. As the water table rises, groundwater bubbles up through storm drains. As that happens more often, in addition to flooding streets, it will cause more than a million septic tanks in the Miami area to bust, and if engineering precautions are not taken soon, that will contaminate the groundwater. At that point, the city will be, literally, in the shit.
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