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Scott Chris

Harriet (7,277 comments) says:
April 8th, 2016 at 6:12 pm
MW#

But are schools obliged to do so if a girl says she has had the cut?

And what exactly happens if girls are reported? Do the police pay the parents a visit — or is it just recorded in government stats?

Who knows Harry. But in this country a female muslim child is unlikely to have her genitals mutilated. Elsewhere, who knows? You balance the harms.
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April 8, 2016 6:20pm
Harriet

Is it legal in NZ to pay for your son to go to uni – or at least pay the no interest loan back for him —- while your daughter has to pay her loan off herself?

Education is not a private product such as a car or a house — it’s a public service as taxpayers are owed the student debt and fund education through taxes. It’s a public matter and Wellington should be addressing it. “Nothing to see here people move along.”
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April 8, 2016 6:21pm
Harriet

“….Who knows Harry. But in this country a female muslim child is unlikely to have her genitals mutilated. Elsewhere, who knows?…”

that’s not true.

The Australian Federal Police stated around 2014 that “We know exactly where in Indonesia that Australian and New Zealand girls are being taken to for the cut.”

They are not referring to kiwi girls in aus – as kiwi girls would not be the only migrants getting cut.

I’ve followed this in NZ since then[albeit I live in aussie] — and I understand that the NZ government police ect have never remarked about what the Feds said. Yet in the early 90’s when I lived in NZ the health dept said there were known cases of it happening and they ‘had a plan in place to stop it’.

Well that was 20yrs before the Feds made their statement.

It’s time NZ police were put in charge – and the health dept told what to do.
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April 8, 2016 6:31pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@harriet

The nearest FGM court case I’ve come across is this recent one in Australia
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/nov/13/female-genital-mutilation-trial-young-girl-convinced-jury-australia

I’ve not heard of FGM occurring in Fiji.
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April 8, 2016 6:34pm
nasska

….”It’s time NZ police were put in charge – and the health dept told what to do.”….

But it is part of their religion Harriet & you of all people should appreciate that religious belief trumps everything including secular reason.

You Left footers send your kids to indoctrination camps (aka convent schools) to force your Godnutter, original sin bullshit into their heads & the Islamists cut bits off their girl children. Both are examples of extreme & unnatural cruelty.
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April 8, 2016 6:38pm
Scott Chris

I’ve been led to believe that a large proportion of the Muslim world practices Female Genital Mutilation. If you look at Wikipedia and believe what it says then the statistics are shocking:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation

My suggestion is this: Accept Islamic women and female children as refugees. Reject the men. Unfair as fuck as this may be on a whole bunch of innocent men, my guess is that it would force the remaining men to get their shit together faster than any other incentive I can think of.
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April 8, 2016 6:40pm
Manolo

How big was the NZ Labour party delegation?
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/apr/07/dinah-lesbian-festival-women-palm-springs

Every year at the end of March, 20,000 lesbians from around the world fly into the Californian desert for five days of debauchery, and I’m one of them. It’s Dinah, also known as the largest girl festival in the world.
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April 8, 2016 6:45pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Scott Chris

Accept Islamic women and female children as refugees. Reject the men.

Alas, some of the main practitioners are women.

FGM is not only practised by Muslims…… Christians/polytheists also indulge…
http://www.stopfgmmideast.org/background/islam-or-culture/
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April 8, 2016 6:49pm
Manolo

@nasska: Where is our mate Johnboy? Is he OK?
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April 8, 2016 6:52pm
nasska

Don’t know Manolo. He was here for a while a couple of months back…..since then not a dicky bird but JB’s gone walkabout before.

Reid knows him in person…..maybe he can chase him up & get the good oil.
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April 8, 2016 6:57pm
Scott Chris

Maggy Wassilieff (3,106 comments) says:
April 8th, 2016 at 6:49 pm
@Scott Chris

Accept Islamic women and female children as refugees. Reject the men.

Alas, some of the main practitioners are women.

FGM is not only practised by Muslims…… Christians/polytheists also indulge…

Thanks for the reality check. (no sarc) The ritual is perpetuated by those upon whom the ritual was performed but was the over-reaching social context matriarchal or patriarchal? (we’re talkin islam here)
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April 8, 2016 7:05pm
Lucia Maria

Johnboy said something about having trouble with his eyesight the last time he popped up.

He might need a volunteer to head on over the hills to read Kiwiblog to him and type out his responses.
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April 8, 2016 7:06pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Scott Chris

but was the social context matriarchal or patriarchal?

Goodness only knows…..

but a young girl is just as vulnerable to female mores as she is to male practices.

An entire community practising FGM needs reeducation.
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April 8, 2016 7:18pm
nasska

Its a bloody, gruesome & totally unnecessary cultural/religious ritual SC but there are wide variations in what happens. From: http://www.who.int/reproductivehealth/topics/fgm/overview/en/

….”Type I — Partial or total removal of the clitoris and/or the prepuce (clitoridectomy). When it is important to distinguish between the major variations of Type I mutilation, the following subdivisions are proposed:

Type Ia, removal of the clitoral hood or prepuce only; Type Ib, removal of the clitoris with the prepuce.”…..

I suspect that in many non rabid Muslim communities the cutting is largely symbolic i.e. nicking the the hood & our late friend Kea who claimed to have bedded a few Muslim chicks stated as much a couple of years ago.

Point is that Islam is not like Catholicism……there’s no real head office so theory vs actual practise can be all over the place.
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April 8, 2016 7:19pm
Shawn Herles

“religious belief trumps everything including secular reason.”

There is no such thing as secular reason. What you are referring to is hyper-rationalism, which is itself a belief system.
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April 8, 2016 7:20pm
nasska

…..”He might need a volunteer to head on over the hills to read Kiwiblog to him and type out his responses.”…..

Can you fill in tomorrow until we can set up a roster Lucia Maria? 🙂
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April 8, 2016 7:21pm
Scott Chris

Goodness only knows…..

Crikey Maggy you can be quite the liberal when you want to be.
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April 8, 2016 7:22pm
Shawn Herles

What is Honor?

“There was a time in days gone by when honor was the driving force behind the life of every great, good, and decent man. Every action of his hand, every thought that found its way from the mind to the mouth and past the lips, every motivation for every endeavor worthy of his undertaking—they were all of them dictated by a man’s inborn sense honor, and aimed at either bolstering that honor which already existed, or else at reclaiming that which through some misfortune had been lost. Honor has for a millennium been the central point in the stories we read to our children in the hope that they too will grow to live honorably. Men and women of valor would slay the dragon, defeat the witch, overthrow or subvert the evil king, all in the name of fulfilling their sense of honor.

To do the honorable thing is to submit the whole of one’s being to the belief that there is underlying all human life and interaction, and indeed all of existence, a universal sense of right and wrong. Some call it natural law, others objective truth; regardless of its designation, it remains one and the same—an unalterable law by which all men are not only expected to adhere in their dealings with others, but also by which all men may hold a reasonable expectation to be dealt with by others. To seek to live honorably is naught but to satisfy that innate urge felt inside all men and women when presented with a choice between genuine right and wrong.

As the social cancer of moral relativism continues to spread throughout modern society, our collective sense of honor continues to wane. How can one act honorably if the very basic understanding of right and wrong is replaced with a pseudo-philosophy that states right and wrong are only social constructs, relics of a bygone age? I am reminded of a story told to me by my college mentor, a certain Lieutenant-Colonel Armstrong. While in the Iraqi desert during the first Gulf War, he and his company were driving through the flat desert with not a single landmark in any direction as far as the eye could see. After a time, someone noticed something small on the horizon, as if very far off. Whatever it was, surely it was quite large given how far off it appeared, and yet in a matter of seconds they came upon the object—a single oil drum. Without any other object to which it could be compared, there was no measure by which to judge its size.

Such can be said of our present moral compass. If man suggests that there is no objective right and wrong—a most ironic claim given that this is itself an objective statement—and if he lives a life that reflects this indifference to objective goodness and evil, then he has no basis upon which to build a better world, and therefore no grounds for complaint when the world continues to collapse around him.

If honor is worth anything, then its dictates are such that they remain unchanged across the generations. Either that which is considered honorable today would be so considered in the era of knights and kings, or else it is not today, nor was it then, nor will it ever be considered an act of honor.

We must be thankful that relativism is only a shadow, and not an object capable of producing a shadow. We must be joyful that while on the wane, honor is not now, nor ever will it be, dead as long as there are those who desire to live lives of honor. Finally, we must remember that to be honorable, to live according to an objective code of right and wrong will never be an easy path to trod, but in the words of the old gospel tune, “straight is the gate and narrow is the way.”

I will conclude this essay on honor with a quotation from a man who was himself a titan of honor far beyond the reach or understanding of the common man. Let the words that follow serve as an encouragement to those wearied by a world without honor.

“Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in, except to convictions of honour and good sense.”

– Sir Winston Churchill
Harrow School, 29 Oct., 1941”

http://www.theimaginativeconservative.org/2014/06/honor.html
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April 8, 2016 7:24pm
Scott Chris

nasska (15,897 comments) says:
April 8th, 2016 at 7:19 pm
Its a bloody, gruesome & totally unnecessary cultural/religious ritual SC but there are wide variations in what happens. From: http://www.who.int/reproductivehealth/topics/fgm/overview/en/

Yeah, the FGM thing kinda changed my stance on things islamic. Quite recently as a matter of fact. I don’t take what I’ve seen as gospel but I saw a video of a female child maybe 10 years old having pain subjected to her genitals. It wasn’t graphic but it wasn’t acting either. That kind of shit has to stop.
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April 8, 2016 7:30pm
nasska

Can’t you find something that needs welded Shawn? 🙂
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April 8, 2016 7:30pm
stigie

“Johnboy said something about having trouble with his eyesight the last time he popped up.”

He just may be in a spot of bother if he is trying to use his gold card as a visa !~
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April 8, 2016 7:31pm
Harriet

Point is that Islam is not like Catholicism……there’s no real head office so theory vs actual practise can be all over the place.

You can’t compare them Nasska as the RC doesn’t for the most part enforce standards upon Catholics. I know what you mean though, the RC is more ordered. There is also only around 5 ‘layers of management’ within the Church – Priest Bishop ect.

I’m no authority of course but the RC in practise is a teacher and guide for Catholics and their relationship with God.
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April 8, 2016 7:36pm
nasska

….”the RC doesn’t for the most part enforce standards upon Catholics.”….

Bullshit Harriet. The RC church dictates & micromanages believers’ lives from who they can marry, what they can eat on Fridays & how they have sex…..that’s for starters.

They’re an organised bunch with control freaks at the top & masochists at the bottom of the heap.
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April 8, 2016 7:42pm
Harriet

Good post Shawn.
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April 8, 2016 7:47pm
Shawn Herles

The irony is that under secular liberalism our lives are interfered with more than at any time in history. From hate speech laws, anti-discrimination laws, excessive health and safety laws, to myriads of other examples, the secular state micro-manages peoples lives to a degree that makes Christendom look positively libertarian by comparison. Obama’s Attorney General is considering making “climate change denial” and “Islamophobia” crimes.

Your business can be destroyed merely for exercising personal conviction, as in the case of the Christian bakers who were fined over one hundred thousand dollars for choosing not to bake a cake for a gay wedding.

The real threat to liberty is not conservative Christians, it’s the secular state.
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April 8, 2016 7:48pm
Maggy Wassilieff

The Pope is about to make an announcement about Marriage, family, kids etc…
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35994408

Looks like it might be ok to be a divorcee
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April 8, 2016 7:50pm
Harriet

“…..Bullshit Harriet. The RC church dictates & micromanages believers’ lives from who they can marry, what they can eat on Fridays & how they have sex…..that’s for starters…..”

I mean in the literal sense.

Other than immediate family members there are very few Catholics that stick their noses in others homes on a daily or weekly basis.

How the hell would someone know if a bloke had fish on Fridays or not if he ate alone? Or masturbated? or swore at his wife?

What do you think Confessionals are for? 😎
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April 8, 2016 7:51pm
Lucia Maria

Nasska,

Can you fill in tomorrow until we can set up a roster Lucia Maria? 🙂

You know, in all the invitations to his place, he never did give me his address.
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April 8, 2016 7:51pm
Harriet

Christian bakers who were fined over one hundred thousand dollars for choosing not to bake a cake for a gay wedding.

And they weren’t saying that gays shouldn’t get married, or people should not be gay —- simply that they would ‘not partake in a gay marriage by making a gay wedding cake’. Also, they do sell birthday cakes ect to gays.

Gay bakers would reject a customer if they wanted Lectivus printed on a cake.
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April 8, 2016 7:58pm
Scott Chris

Harriet (7,282 comments) says:
April 8th, 2016 at 7:36 pm
Point is that Islam is not like Catholicism……there’s no real head office

So you faithfully follow Francis Harry?
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April 8, 2016 7:59pm
waikatogirl

Lucia, if you did visit JB you may need to play hide and seek to keep out of his clutches.

If you were very quiet he wouldn’t know where you were! 🙂
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April 8, 2016 8:01pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@waikatogirl

I’ve always assumed that Johnboy would be irresistible and like little lambs we ladies would swoon as soon as we gazed upon him.
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April 8, 2016 8:10pm
Harriet

Scott#

Nasska said that – I was replying to it.

But yes I do ‘faithfully follow’ what Pope Francis says and then I think about it. As most other Catholics do.
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April 8, 2016 8:12pm
Scott Chris

Harriet (7,284 comments) says:
April 8th, 2016 at 8:12 pm
I do ‘follow’ what Pope Francis says and then I think about it.

All good Harriet.
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April 8, 2016 8:14pm
waikatogirl

Maggy
I’ve always assumed that Johnboy would be irresistible and like little lambs we ladies would swoon as soon as we gazed upon him.
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Aaaah Maggy, never too old to be swept off our feet by a gorgeous male specimen!

He’d have to give up his preference for wool unless he’s happy snuggling up to a warm cardie. 🙂
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April 8, 2016 8:17pm
nasska

Dress casually Maggy. Chloe slippers & a sheepskin car seat cover draped casually across your shoulders will ensure you a warm welcome at Chez JB.

Prior drenching is essential & BYO lanolin. 🙂
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April 8, 2016 8:17pm
cha

Let’s not forget, JB likes ’em dagged with hooves clipped….
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April 8, 2016 8:29pm
waikatogirl

nasska
Dress casually Maggy. Chloe slippers & a sheepskin car seat cover draped casually across your shoulders will ensure you a warm welcome at Chez JB.
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Is that the recommendation of a man who knows first hand what JB likes?
Just kidding nasska. I know JB isn’t your type 😉
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April 8, 2016 8:38pm
Scott Chris

cha (5,883 comments) says:
April 8th, 2016 at 8:29 pm
Let’s not forget, JB likes ’em dagged with hooves clipped….

At the risk of invoking Starboard…… don’t we all?
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April 8, 2016 8:43pm
wikiriwhis business

The War on Cash is a favorite pet project of the economic central planners. They want to eliminate hand-to-hand currency so that governments can document, control, and tax everything. In 1661, Sweden became the first country in Europe to issue paper money. Now it’s probably going to be the first in the world to eliminate it. The U.S. Federal Reserve is at the center of the War on Cash. More on this hugely important issue at the link: http://bit.ly/23mwowu
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April 8, 2016 8:43pm
wikiriwhis business

The World’s First Cashless Society Is Here – A Totalitarian’s Dream Come True

Central planners around the world are waging a War on Cash. In just the last few years:
Italy made cash transactions over €1,000 illegal;
Switzerland proposed banning cash payments in excess of 100,000 francs;
Russia banned cash transactions over $10,000;
Spain banned cash transactions over €2,500;
Mexico made cash payments of more than 200,000 pesos illegal;
Uruguay banned cash transactions over $5,000; and
France made cash transactions over €1,000 illegal, down from the previous limit of €3,000.
The War on Cash is a favorite pet project of the economic central planners. They want to eliminate hand-to-hand currency so that governments can document, control, and tax everything.

This is why they’re lowering the threshold for mandatory reporting of cash transactions and, in some instances, simply making it illegal to pay cash.

In the U.S., central planners ratchet up the War on Cash every time the government declares a made-up war on something else…a war on crime, a war on drugs, a war on poverty, a war on terror…

They all end with more government intrusion into your financial affairs.
Thanks to these made-up wars, the U.S. government is imposing an increasing number of regulations on cash transactions. Try withdrawing more than $10,000 in cash from your bank. They’ll treat you like a criminal or terrorist.

The Federal Reserve is at the center of the War on Cash. Its weapons are inflation and control over the currency denominations.

Take the $100 note, for example. It’s the largest bill in circulation today. This was not always the case. At one point, the U.S. had $500, $1,000, $5,000, and even $10,000 notes. But the government eliminated these large notes in 1969 under the pretext of fighting the War on Some Drugs.

Since then, the $100 note has been the largest. But it has far less purchasing power than it did in 1969. Decades of rampant money printing have debased the dollar. Today, a $100 note buys less than a $20 note did in 1969.

Even though the Federal Reserve has devalued the dollar over 80% since 1969, it still refuses to issue notes larger than $100. This makes it inconvenient to use cash for large transactions, which forces people to use electronic payment methods.

This, of course, is what the U.S. government wants.

It’s exactly like Ron Paul said: “The cashless society is the IRS’s dream: total knowledge of, and control over, the finances of every single American.”

http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/the-worlds-first-cashless-society-is-here-a-totalitarians-dream-come-true
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April 8, 2016 8:44pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I think the Wainui dress code is a bit much for me. We’re more relaxed around Kaiti Mall way… PJs and jandals is standard wear.
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April 8, 2016 8:45pm
wikiriwhis business

“Had a look at your link. Completely wrong. The original quoted figures are “net income tax” where net = total less welfare pymts. So yes, some groups can have a negative “net income tax” by that measure (meaning the others have to add up to more than 100% so as the total of all groups equals 100%).”

ok, good education
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April 8, 2016 8:52pm
waikatogirl

Sounds pretty similar Maggy, although with the sheepskin car seat cover across the shoulder nasska recommended, wainui obviously like their women to have a bit more of a Rambo look than up your way.
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April 8, 2016 8:54pm
Reid

The real threat to liberty is not conservative Christians, it’s the secular state.

Partly.

The biggest threat to liberty are morons who don’t realise their media which they trust is run by evil, for evil and is of evil.

And there are a fuckload of those morons out there.

Including many here.
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April 8, 2016 8:59pm
dirty harry

staying in tonight scott chris ? Its Friday night..arent you expected somewhere deviant ?
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April 8, 2016 9:03pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Waikatogirl

In all honesty I’m a broken-mouthed old ewe… on the way to being a gummer… I’m sure Johnboy would appreciate younger models with all their teeth.
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April 8, 2016 9:03pm
Don the Kiwi

” The RC church dictates & micromanages believers’ lives from who they can marry, what they can eat on Fridays & how they have sex…..that’s for starters.”

What a load of utter bullshit nasska.

What imaginary fairy told you that – diving into your vivid bigoted imagination again, obviously.
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April 8, 2016 9:04pm
Scott Chris

dirty harry (691 comments) says:
April 8th, 2016 at 9:03 pm
staying in tonight scott chris ? Its Friday night..arent you expected somewhere deviant ?,

Well I’m at the corner of k’road and Queen like you promised but you’re such a bitch Starboard
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April 8, 2016 9:10pm
nasska

….” from who they can marry”…. Divorcees & in deference to your blood pressure we won’t dwell on gay marriage.

….”what they can eat on Fridays”…. Fish.

….”how they have sex”…. Unprotected.

No imagination required. You couldn’t make up such garbage!
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April 8, 2016 9:13pm
Don the Kiwi

“You couldn’t make up such garbage!”

You’re doing a bloody good job of it.

“fish on Friday” was abandoned about 50 years ago – and even then it was purely a discipline with many exceptions.

Gay marriage is a contradiction in terms, if you’ve got even a basic understanding what real marriage is, and divorce is a breach of vows anyway – so how serious is someone when they make them?

What is “unprotected sex” – is pregnancy a disease ? Another lefty liberal bit of PC rubbish.

You’ll have to do better than that.
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April 8, 2016 9:21pm
Scott Chris

Gay marriage is a contradiction in terms, if you’ve got even a basic understanding what real marriage is, and divorce is a breach of vows anyway – so how serious is someone when they make them?

Can you explain this to us Don in one sentence?
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April 8, 2016 9:35pm
Reid

Can you explain this to us Don in one sentence?

We weren’t built to fuck each other up the arse Scott.
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April 8, 2016 9:42pm
Scott Chris

Okay let’s break that down:

Gay marriage is a contradiction in terms!

compared to:

one in seven people in Dargaville wears pants

Yeah well I know who the true pants wearers are.
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April 8, 2016 9:47pm
Reid

There are many reasons why.

Not least being, we wouldn’t even have progressed beyond the amoeba stage if that’s all we’d ever done.

And one imagines, the straight amoeba would’ve been looking at us sideways as well, back in the pleistocene era.
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April 8, 2016 9:50pm
Scott Chris

Reid (20,742 comments) says:
April 8th, 2016 at 9:42 pm
Can you explain this to us Don in one sentence?

We weren’t built to fuck each other up the arse Scott.

So anal sex is the root of all evil Reid? Kinda disappointed – thought it would be something cerebral.
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April 8, 2016 9:54pm
dirty harry

Fantastic Reid..couldnt have said it better myself. Scottchris wont understand..he does not realise it is strictly for shitting out of.
The man ( and I use the word man loosely ) is a deviant.
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April 8, 2016 9:57pm
Inandout

The Wellington cabbie offended by the gay fare has nothing on this Muslim nutter:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/08/muslim-cabbie-beat-up-gay-couple-for-kissing-in-his-car/
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April 8, 2016 10:05pm
Scott Chris

dirty harry (692 comments) says:
April 8th, 2016 at 9:57 pm
Fantastic Reid..couldnt have said it better myself. Scottchris wont understand..he does not realise it is strictly for shitting out of.
The man ( and I use the word man loosely ) is a deviant.,/

Hi Starboard, I realise ‘dirty’ is your pussy aggressive persona but you’re still a complete and utter cunt. 🙂
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April 8, 2016 10:08pm
Scott Chris

one imagines, the straight amoeba would’ve been looking at us sideways as well, back in the pleistocene era.

Yeah well Reid your sense of humour betrays you. What we do physically has little to do with how we’ve recently evolved as a species. And yes it is remarkable but that’s just how the anthropic principle works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle
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April 8, 2016 10:35pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh, have a read of “Amoris Laetitia”…. The Joy of Love….. Pope Francis’ latest

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2793677-AL-INGLESE-TESTO.html
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April 8, 2016 10:44pm
starboard

I see you are your popular self tonight scottchris.

Tsk tsk..Im gona have to report you for that scotty, not nice and not called for.
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April 8, 2016 11:39pm
Manolo

Another lecture from this seller of smoke:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/04/08/pope-francis-releases-key-text-family-matters/82782602/
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April 9, 2016 6:58am
Manolo

If anyone but the Messiah had said it:
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/04/07/obama-dismisses-scotus-diversity-criticism-didnt-search-black-lesbian-skokie/
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