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Manolo

Unsuspecting mates: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/26/us/politics/ted-cruz-john-kasich-donald-trump.html

The temporary alliance between Senator Ted Cruz and Gov. John Kasich of Ohio, formed to deny Donald J. Trump the Republican presidential nomination, was already in danger of fraying to the point of irrelevance on Monday, only hours after it was announced to great fanfare.
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April 26, 2016 10:59am
Fletch

An increase in CO2 is literally making the Earth greener, a massive new study says.

Rising carbon dioxide (CO2) levels are causing an explosion in plant growth, according to a huge scientific study published Monday in the journal Nature Climate Change.

The study is the largest of its kind and was written by 32 scientists from 24 colleges and universities in eight countries. It used three long-term satellite records of plant area and 10 different global ecosystem models to measure increasing plant growth.

“We were able to tie the greening largely to the fertilizing effect of rising atmospheric CO2 concentration by tasking several computer models to mimic plant growth observed in the satellite data,” Ranga Myneni, one of the study’s co-authors who is a professor at Boston University, said in a press statement.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/25/study-increase-in-co2-is-literally-making-the-earth-greener/
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April 26, 2016 11:01am
RalphT

Manolo,

As well as those two being unlikely bedfellows, there is the danger of a backlash from those pissed off at the way the Republican party has been handling Trump. I can easily see a number of people moving towards Trump in the primaries as a way of saying “stuff you” to the leadership.
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April 26, 2016 11:05am
Fletch

Almost half a million people have signed a petition saying they will boycott Target stores in the U.S over their new “transgender” bathrooms, where people of either sex can use any bathroom they like.

“We welcome transgender team members and guests to use the restroom or fitting room facility that corresponds with their gender identity,” the company said in a statement. “Everyone deserves to feel like they belong. And you’ll always be accepted, respected and welcomed at Target.”

People have taken to social media to express disgust and outrage over Target’s decision to allow transgender people to use any bathroom or fitting room.

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I have no problem with transgender people, I just have a problem with perverts exploiting this #Target policy and I have young girls.

— Heidi Milliken (@minetteheidi)

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@YoungCons Obviously @Target doesn’t give a crap about my children’s safety in their stores. Will be cancelling my credit card.

— shansmith (@shansmith)

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etc etc

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/25/people-express-outrage-targets-decision-allow-transgenders-bathroom/

Looks like lefties have taken it too far this time. Reality has a habit of intruding on liberal Utopian dreams.
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April 26, 2016 11:08am
kowtow

Religion of peace?

“Two people, including an editor of a transgender magazine, have been hacked to death in Bangladesh capital of Dhaka.”

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/04/people-hacked-death-bangladesh-capital-160425141155758.html
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April 26, 2016 11:09am
mikenmild

http://mic.com/articles/114066/statistics-show-exactly-how-many-times-trans-people-have-attacked-you-in-bathrooms#.f0rF8wp5n
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April 26, 2016 11:10am
Biscuit

11.11 of a morning and General Debate has only six posts up?

Que?

You’d ALMOST think Google was down and Penny B wasn’t able to access her usual sites to cut and paste her bon mots from.

Yep, me evil…
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April 26, 2016 11:11am
Manolo

Religion of peace?

And of absolute tolerance. Islam, the peaceful Islam, shouts stephieboy.
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April 26, 2016 11:13am
RalphT

Biscuit: red rag to a bull..
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April 26, 2016 11:13am
stephieboy

Kowtow , a religion of peace ?

A nonsensical question if there ever was one .The invasion of Iraq 2003 saw 200,000 civilian and military casualties .Do we say this was caused by Republicans or the US as a Christian nation led by the Prince of Peace ?
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April 26, 2016 11:17am
Biscuit

Heh heh, Ralph, I am bored … and searching for reasons not to ‘get out and mow those lawns’ as my better half has been telling me to.
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April 26, 2016 11:17am
Happychappy

Labour spokesman and obese MP Megan Woods on Climate change this morning on the Paul Henry show wanting a combined Party enquiry into helping reduce commissions.This is the same ignorant MP that shouts abuse across the house in Parliamentary question time every day,and now wants the to acuse National of having no ideas and needs her and other parties to fix it.Labour have opposed RMA reform,HousingPolicy,TPPA and Education things that would help every day NZers and produce jobs prosperity but no Labour doesn’t want a bar of that but then decides that they know best and National should help them get the public to think about voting for them again.
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April 26, 2016 11:18am
Huevon

Christians pray for gays and trannies, Muslims kill them.

And yet who do we import and allow to colonise our cities?
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April 26, 2016 11:21am
RalphT

Biscuit,

If you start a shitstorm you’ll wish you’d followed orders and spent the day mowing the lawns.
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April 26, 2016 11:26am
Fletch

11.11 of a morning and General Debate has only six posts up?

Que?

Looks like the thread was only put up at 10.47 am, so, only 20 minutes at the time of your comment.
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April 26, 2016 11:28am
mikenmild

obese MP Megan Woods

It’s amazing how beautiful and slim her political opponents are though:
https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=gerry+brownlee+fat&espv=2&biw=1093&bih=514&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9_N_H96rMAhVHGpQKHWo4DKYQ7AkIJg#imgrc=mvU-V1M2KhLchM%3A
https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=paula+bennett+mp&espv=2&biw=1093&bih=514&tbm=isch&imgil=WytVuRYrtbusAM%253A%253BGUTYxLLlA_FxlM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.stuff.co.nz%25252Fnational%25252Fpolitics%25252F2681539%25252FPaula-Bennett-accused-of-Muldoon-style-bullying&source=iu&pf=m&fir=WytVuRYrtbusAM%253A%252CGUTYxLLlA_FxlM%252C_&usg=__d-ikY4rCtKYZtyZyjje6xBHh9pI%3D&ved=0ahUKEwjbppCH-KrMAhXJNJQKHb4uAeIQyjcIVg&ei=maceV5v2Nsnp0AS-3YSQDg#imgrc=WytVuRYrtbusAM%3A
https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=judith+collins+mp&espv=2&biw=1093&bih=514&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj3tOmd-KrMAhWFVZQKHcDpC1cQ7AkIaA&dpr=1.25#imgrc=WmB2k3HDEONM0M%3A

I should add that I have nothing against any of their people due to their size.
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April 26, 2016 11:28am
Happychappy

@Mikenmild
I do not care whether it is Jerry, Paula or Megan obese is what they are and do not look good when voting on Health policies for others when they do not set a good example with their own size
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April 26, 2016 11:37am
mikenmild

Well, that’s consistency, at least…
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April 26, 2016 11:40am
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Yesterday I Posted a link ( Daily Mail ) regarding President Obama and the First Lady greeting Prince George just before bedtime .A pretty innocuous eventi one would think but nevertheless it received 12 downticks .

Would any of the naysayers like to venture an explanation as to why they chose to do so ? And even if they might not like the thought of a black family occupying the White House ?
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April 26, 2016 11:40am
Kimbo

Would any of the naysayers like to venture an explanation as to why they chose to do so ? And even if they might not like the thought of a black family occupying the White House ?

He he he. Mr Troll asks himself rhetorical bait-and-switch questions. For a second and last time I’ll break my “don’t respond to the troll” with the following analogy:

In 1980 to much expectation, film director Michael Cimino, released “Heaven’s Gate”, a movie that was so bad, one critic wrote, “[It] fails so completely that you might suspect Mr. Cimino sold his soul to the devil to obtain the success of The Deer Hunter, and the devil has just come around to collect”.

During the intermission at the premiere, the audience was so subdued that Cimino was said to have asked why no one was drinking the champagne. He was reportedly told by his publicist, “Because they hate the movie, Michael.”

They hate you and your ‘begging-the-question’ posts built on provocative false premises, and then if anyone is foolish enough to enter into your web, your inability to critique your own prejudices while you parade yourself as one who is fit to interrogate the motives an morality of others. Irrespective of the topic, stephie. You are the ‘Heaven’s Gate’ of KB.
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April 26, 2016 11:50am
rangitoto

“it received 12 downticks .”

Most likely because the other posters on here think you are a pompous prat. Just a theory of course.
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April 26, 2016 11:51am
tom hunter

mikenmild (21,073 comments) says:
April 26th, 2016 at 11:10 am
statistics-show-exactly-how-many-times-trans-people-have-attacked-you-in-bathrooms

Why it’s almost as if left-wingers are not listening…

I have no problem with transgender people, I just have a problem with perverts exploiting this #Target policy and I have young girls. — Heidi Milliken (@minetteheidi)

Target doesn’t give a crap about my children’s safety in their stores. Will be cancelling my credit card.— shansmith (@shansmith)
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April 26, 2016 11:51am
kowtow

Downticks probably had more to do with your constant trolling. Simply using the half white occupier of the White House to draw attention to yourself.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/664142/Obama-crowd-includes-refugee-Calais-volunteer-and-non-binary-Muslim

I suppose ‘non binary” is progressive newspeak for mad as a hatter.
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April 26, 2016 11:55am
oldpark

Still getting over the shock of the “Game of Thrones” and the other one Storm v Warriors ,”Game of Groans”, both worthy of a nightmare for some.
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April 26, 2016 11:56am
starboard

Jesus H…how many times has a reshuffle gone through this outfit over the years..and I’m thinking back years and years..
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April 26, 2016 11:57am
mikenmild

tom
If bathroom attacks by transgender people were an actual thing, the response would be to provide unisex toilets. An unenforceable band of transgender people using the bathroom that corresponds to their gender identity will do nothing.
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April 26, 2016 11:59am
Chuck Bird

Excellence article by Don Brash. I might comment on the Herald site.

Don Brash: Act of Parliament made water ownership clear

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11628411
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April 26, 2016 12:05pm
Gabby

You could stand to lose a pound or two yourself, crappychappy.
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April 26, 2016 12:11pm
stephieboy

Kowtow, not trolling as the happy meeting only happened a couple of days ago .True there was an element of testing the waters to establish if there were still some crazy and paranoid birthers floating around .

I have it on good authority that the President is in fact half black .At least you’ve come some way and not claiming he is e.g a card carrying member of the Muslim brotherhood .

I allow myself a little bit of leeway with the tabloid media in terms of accuracy and authenticity .
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April 26, 2016 12:13pm
tom hunter

If bathroom attacks by transgender people were an actual thing, ….

Still not listening. You probably can’t hear anything over the sound of yourself yelling BIGOT, BIGOT, BIGOT ….

But here it is again …

I have no problem with transgender people, I just have a problem with perverts exploiting this #Target policy and I have young girls. — Heidi Milliken (@minetteheidi

Speaking of unenforceable bans what will you do now when you see a man trailing into the women’s bathroom after some young girls? Raise a concern? Follow him? Alert shop security? If he claims he identifies as a woman what will you say? Once that’s happened will you ever say anything again in that situation?

Anyway, it’s good to see the myth of the male, heterosexual predator, together with this recent crying about “safe spaces” for women being dumped by the left-wing.
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April 26, 2016 12:14pm
Hugh Pavletich

Sydney house price update …

Sydney prices have peaked … Domain WITH VIDEO … h/t JG …

http://www.domain.com.au/news/sydneys-prices-have-peaked-when-will-they-boom-again-20160421-goce1i/

The Sydney suburbs out of the million-dollar club: Domain Group

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… via …

Sydney mortgage belt house prices crash – MacroBusiness Australia (behind paywall)

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2016/04/sydney-mortgage-belt-house-prices-crash/
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April 26, 2016 12:17pm
mikenmild

The only myth in play here is the one that children are in danger from transgender bathroom predators. And do you really think that laws like this are needed to stop men gong into women’s toilets?
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April 26, 2016 12:18pm
starboard

transgender..what next. If my dog couldn’t decide to cock its leg or squat for a piss, Id put him down. Same with TG wannabes. Its all in their heads, stupid fools.
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April 26, 2016 12:19pm
Maggy Wassilieff

It’s not just gay, transgender or bloggers that get hacked to death in Bangladesh.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/04/professor-hacked-death-bangladesh-160423075449570.html
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April 26, 2016 12:19pm
starboard

Use ya brain for once mm

“Predators are known to intentionally seek out places where many of their preferred targets gather in groups.”

Umm..the public toilet mm….

“Why would people knowingly invite further exploitation by creating policies with no safeguards in place to protect them from injury? With zero screening options to ensure that biological males who enter locker rooms actually identify as female, how could a woman be sure the person staring at her wasn’t exploiting her? Why is it okay to make her wonder?”

Are you TG MM ? Is that why you are going into bat for them ?
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April 26, 2016 12:24pm
Kleva Kiwi

mikenmild, you just dont get it do you?

Its got nothing to do with transgender people, and its got everything to do with sexual predators and deviants who will abuse this and “claim” to be transgender to gain access to bathrooms of the opposite sex.
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April 26, 2016 12:25pm
tom hunter

@mikenmild
I realise you really don’t want to answer these basic, practical questions – but they stand nevetheless.

What will you do in that situation? Never had a young daughter who needs to pee in a mall or shop? She walks in, a man follows. What do you do under these new rules?
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April 26, 2016 12:25pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Seems any male can access female changing rooms in some locales by stating that they are transgender.i
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/man-strips-in-front-of-girls-in-swimming-pool-locker-says-transgender-law-a
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April 26, 2016 12:26pm
ciaron

mikenmild (21,081 comments) says:
April 26th, 2016 at 12:18 pm
The only myth in play here is the one that children are in danger from transgender bathroom predators. And do you really think that laws like this are needed to stop men going into women’s toilets?

Mike, please listen: it is not the transgender people that raise concerns, but the opportunistic predator who will bend this situation to their ends

Can you see where people are coming from now?
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April 26, 2016 12:29pm
mikenmild

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tom
My behaviour would not change under such a rule. Whose behaviour would change?
I must say that am surprised that you, a usually rational person, would support such a nonsense law.
Not only is there no evidence that transgender people pose any kind of bathroom threat, such laws are completely unenforceable, unless you propose bathroom police to inspect suspect genitals before entry to a bathroom.
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April 26, 2016 12:30pm
RRM

If we banned everything that had the potential to be abused by sex predators we wouldn’t have swimming pools or changing rooms at all.

You’re more likely to be involved in a car crash or a road rage incident on your way home from the pool, than you are likely to be accosted by a sexual predator in the changing rooms while you’re there.

This whole issue is just the gay panic defense brought up-to-date. I don’t understand these people, therefore I’m scared shitless of them. It shouldn’t be allowed (whatever it is)…
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April 26, 2016 12:34pm
Kimbo

@ ciaron

Mike, please listen: it is not the transgender people that raise concerns, but the opportunistic predator who will bend this situation to their ends

Can you see where people are coming from now?

Judging by his post at 12:30pm…no. Outside the plausibility structure to suggest the proposals of SJW’s can be used as a device to further evil…and when you do so you are not criticising or judging the disaffected group on whose behalf the SJW’s are agitating.

Next step – rationalisation using false equivalence…oh, RRM and “You’re more likely to be involved in a car crash on your way home from the pool, than accosted by a sexual pervert in the changing rooms while you’re there.” Already happening…

Mind you not as gratuitous as the earlier post today,

“Kowtow , a religion of peace ?

A nonsensical question if there ever was one .The invasion of Iraq 2003 saw 200,000 civilian and military casualties .Do we say this was caused by Republicans or the US as a Christian nation led by the Prince of Peace ?
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April 26, 2016 12:34pm
ciaron

RRM (12,108 comments) says:
April 26th, 2016 at 12:34 pm
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You’re more likely to be involved in a car crash or a road rage incident on your way home from the pool, than you are likely to be accosted by a sexual predator in the changing rooms while you’re there….

That doesn’t sound like a good reason to make it any easier for them.
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April 26, 2016 12:39pm
tom hunter

Can you see where people are coming from now?

Even mikenmild is not that obtuse. He’s knows exactly what the practical problems are, but he’d rather sit around taunting his bete noir, Christians, and other “right-wingers”, and virtue signalling about what a virtuous person he is.

I’ve been in plenty of nightclubs over the years where tranny’s walked into the mens room, and the girls experienced the same in the womens room. No great trauma was felt.

This is not that situation. You have young kids in a mall, shop or restaurant who need to pee. If they’re boys it’s simple: you take them to the mens room. If it’s your daughters, what do you do as the guy? I’ve known fathers who, in desperation, asked women to accompany their daughters to the toilets. Or maybe they’re lucky enough to find a disabled toilet where the door can be shut. As I said the other day, this new world means the father gets to walk into the woman’s toilets with no questions asked.

And as I also pointed out, we’ll see how the left-wing feminists screeching about the prevalance of male predators, react to that.

My behaviour would not change under such a rule.

Not the question. What would your behaviour be in that situation mikenmild? What would you do?
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April 26, 2016 12:39pm
mikenmild

The chances of being sexually assaulted by a transgender person in a public toilet are vanishingly small. If there were a real threat, businesses and local authorities would respond by building secure unisex toilets rather than passing discriminatory laws that will have no effect.
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April 26, 2016 12:41pm
ciaron

Do you hear that mike?

It’s the point, passing you by.
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April 26, 2016 12:43pm
Fletch

mm, you’re not listening. No one is saying trans people are a threat. We’re saying that making it so that any person can go into any toilet regardless of their biological gender is asking for trouble. or why do you think men and women have separate restrooms to begin with?
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April 26, 2016 12:44pm
mikenmild

tom
If I had a young daughter who went to the toilet alone in a mall and was followed in by a male, I too would go into the toilet.
You have not outlined how a law change would prevent that man from gong into the women’s toilets.
If you were really interested in the bathroom safety of little girls, you would surely be asking your local shopping mall to invest in unisex toilets.
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April 26, 2016 12:45pm
tom hunter

The chances of being sexually assaulted by transgenders are vanishingly small …. in 10, 9, 8,….

The chances of being sexually assaulted by transgenders are vanishingly small …. in 5, 4, 3,….

The chances of being sexually assaulted by transgenders are vanishingly small …. in …
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April 26, 2016 12:46pm
starboard

You might as well talk to the front door mat..mm just doesnt listen.. DO YA MM !!
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April 26, 2016 12:46pm
RRM

I see that the political protestor theme this ANZAC day was “why are we commemorating this but ignoring the NZ Land Wars?”
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April 26, 2016 12:51pm
Brigitte

Re the toilet issue. The rules have changed, therefore we cannot assume that past experience will still apply.

For example, with the CDOs in the US, that changed the rules (the banks now had no money in the game) and suddenly uncreditworthy people were given huge loans. The previous default experience proved to be completely unreliable (as various investors in CDOs found to their dismay).

So, the potential for predators to take advantage of the changed rules exists. Will it be significant or not? Only time will tell on that one. Hopefully not, as that would mean many innocent (probably) children will have been harmed.
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April 26, 2016 12:53pm
mikenmild

What rules have changed, Brigitte?
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April 26, 2016 12:54pm
Brigitte

@mm, the rules re who can use toilets marked “male” or “female”. That’s what is being discussed.
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April 26, 2016 12:57pm
mikenmild

Brigitte
The only rule change I am aware of is that some US states have passed laws requiring people to use the bathroom which corresponds to their biological sex, rather than their gender identity.
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April 26, 2016 12:59pm
RRM

Fletch (8,665 comments) says:
April 26th, 2016 at 12:44 pm
or why do you think men and women have separate restrooms to begin with?

😆 LOL- the reason we have separate mens’ and womens’ toilets has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with the recent trend of fear about sexual predators. And YOU are far to smart not to know this!

It is because white anglo-saxon christian society is EXTRAORDINARILY uptight, uncomfortable, ashamed, and bent out of shape over sex and sexuality issues, and has been for about a thousand years.

Every baby knows what a pair of breasts looks like and what they are made for. Every little toddler who down-trous and runs around half naked on the beach with his fellows knows what genitals look like.

But as soon as you’re weaned the social conditioning starts. That stuff is BAD and WRONG and DIRTY, and if you even so much as THINK about it then you’re BAD and WRONG and DIRTY too. Now say 20 Hail Marys and be off with you.

It probably made a lot of sense in Pre-1914 society to have a large amount of taboo around sex, as a form of birth control in societies that simply could not afford to look after a lot of unwed mothers.
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April 26, 2016 1:00pm
Nostradamus

All this talk about transgenderism brings back memories of the little boy in Kindergarten Cop:

Boys have a penis, and girls have a vagina.

Now, in 2016, perhaps he’d say:

She had a penis, now he has a vagina.

🙂
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April 26, 2016 1:02pm
tom hunter

It is because white anglo-saxon christian society is EXTRAORDINARILY uptight, ….

Sheesh – talk about Western-centric attitudes.

The same “rules” exist across myriad societies on the planet, across multiple religions and cultures. It would seem that such “uptight” attitudes about stuff being WRONG and DIRTY are not related to Western Christianity or even religion. The separation of the sexes in certain key parts of life like ablutions is a human thing, with some comingling at the margins in some societies.

And that’s where the identity politics of the Left are in play. There’s a desire among very tiny fringe groups to totally overthrow traditional human attiudes across the board in favour of such things as gender fluidity. All very revolutionary and exciting of course.

And you will be made to care.
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April 26, 2016 1:10pm
Tauhei Notts

RRM raises the matter about the Land Wars, also known as the Maori Wars.
I think that the Maori Wars are best forgotten.
Many New Zealanders were shot and killed in two world wars.
I have not read of any New Zealanders being killed by tomahawks splitting their skulls as they sat defenceless at the mercy of their opponents, as happened near the Wairau River in 1843.
There are many exceedingly ugly aspects to the Maori Wars that are best forgotten about. Accept it. Get over it. Get on with your life! But many would rather sanitise the ugly aspects as they revise our country’s history.
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April 26, 2016 1:11pm
mikenmild

Tauhei

The New Zealand Wars are an important part of our history. I’m a bit curious as to why they should be forgotten. Just up the road from me is a memorial to the soldiers killed n the skirmish at Boulcott’s Farm n 1845. Should that memorial be removed?

Are there any other events you would wish to airbrush out of history?
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April 26, 2016 1:15pm
Psycho Milt

…making it so that any person can go into any toilet regardless of their biological gender is asking for trouble.

Leaving aside for the moment the fact that gender is social, not biological (the word is “sex” not “gender” if you’re talking biology or physical features), the god-botherers’ preferred rules regarding this demand that this guy use the women’s toilets. So, after Fletch gets his law requiring people to use the bathroom of their actual sex, Tom Hunter gets to see Michael Hughes following his daughter into the women’s toilets but may be arrested if he decides to investigate.

My solution? Don’t stress yourself into a lather over public toilets.
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April 26, 2016 1:16pm
Longknives

The Boyd Massacre has pretty much been erased from History…
Wonder why?
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April 26, 2016 1:25pm
Manolo

It’s all on the line: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article73840137.html

Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, says the strategy may work for Cruz in Indiana. “The polls are close enough there so that it might have the desired effect for Cruz. If Trump wins Indiana, the fat lady will start warming up.”

However, it might be difficult to get Cruz supporters to vote for Kasich, and vice versa.

In Michigan, for example, which shares a long border with Indiana as well as similar economies and demographics, there were distinct differences between Cruz and Kasich voters.
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April 26, 2016 1:31pm
Manolo

Another barbaric act from followers of the religion of peace:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/04/25/islamic-extremists-reportedly-behead-western-hostage-in-philippines.html?intcmp=hpbt1

Islamic extremists in the Philippines beheaded one of three Western hostages taken captive months ago, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told reporters Monday.
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April 26, 2016 1:33pm
All_on_Red

There’s nothing wrong with having unisex toilets. In a civilised society anyway. Although I suspect in the US they will end up with Male, Female and Male/female toilets.
That said I would never let my young sons be unaccompanied in any toilet regardless. Funnily enough if my wife is out with them and they need to go, often they will use the female toilets…
The sad fact is, if someone going to molest you, it won’t matter what sign is on the door.
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April 26, 2016 1:34pm
Fletch

Listening to Classic American Top 40, with Casey Kasem (RIP).

http://www.iheart.com/live/Classic-American-Top-40-6545/

They’re doing the year-end top 100 for 1985 at the moment.
Once upon a time I used to recognize just about every song in the top 40. So different now. I looked at the top 40 on iTunes the other day and didn’t know/like much at all (notwithstanding the recent re-entry of prince after his death).
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April 26, 2016 1:34pm
Happychappy

@ Gabby
Mummy just pick you up from day care,has she not given you your dummy yet
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April 26, 2016 1:44pm
stephieboy

Taehuie notts. , using your kind of reasoning some of the “ugly aspects ” from WW I such as the gas attacks and the bloody battles of the Somme and Paschendale should also be erased from memory ?
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April 26, 2016 1:48pm
Fletch

My solution? Don’t stress yourself into a lather over public toilets.

Which is pretty much Trump’s stand on it. Kind of a Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell mentality of leaving everything as it is and not purposely making toilets gender-neutral as Target has done. At the moment, if a guy walks into a female toilet, the females can run out, get a security guard and have him forcibly ejected. If, however, the toilet is gender-neutral then there is nothing the woman can do about it as he suddenly has every right to be there. He may not harass anybody, but not everybody wants a member of the opposite sex to share the same toilets as they do, and fair enough.
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April 26, 2016 1:57pm
MT_Tinman

Fletch, I’ve come across public toilets nation wide in NZ that do not designate male or female and yet every case I read about of perverts polluting public toilets is in a single sex toilet.

The whole argument is bloody stupid unless they are also legislating to take lockable doors of the individual stalls.

I do agree with All_on_Red at 13:34. Just because it’s single sex doesn’t mean there are less perverts. Accompany kids every time.
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April 26, 2016 2:10pm
Griff

How do you cope at home fetch?
You and your wife have separate toilets ?
or you are faping over a non issue like pratica bartletts long lost grandson .
An issue in Jesus land that would be a meh here
I have used the ladys when the male toilet is inoperative and seen woman do the same using the mans ‘if you give a fuck about such things you are a gibbering repressed potential sex deviant overly focused on wee wees.
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April 26, 2016 2:13pm
Fletch

More than 60,000 Democrats in Pennsylvania switching to the Republican party.

More than 60,000 Democrats are abandoning their party, switching to the Republican Party ahead of this year’s primary election in Pennsylvania.

Reporter Lisa Mascaro of the Tribune news service called it “the most sizable shifts of partisan allegiance ever in Pennsylvania.”

61,500 Democrats have become Republicans so far this year, part of a 145,000 jump in Republican registrations since the fall 2015 election, according to state figures analyzed by both parties. It’s more new Republicans than in the previous four years combined.

GOP frontrunner Donald Trump is predicted to benefit from the shift on Tuesday when Pennsylvania voters head to the polls.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/25/60000-democrats-switch-republican-party-pennsylvania-ahead-primary/
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April 26, 2016 2:14pm
Biscuit

RalphT 11.26am.

Lawns are now mowed!

I said to the missus “Am I on a promise now?’

Her reply: ‘We shall see…’

Happy day I (well, night) ahead!

And STILL no Penny. This ‘prayer’ thing DOES work…
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April 26, 2016 2:16pm
stephieboy

Longknives, I don’t think the Boyd massacre has been erased from History .You can google many links and articles about the event so it hardly can be seen as “erased from memory. ” Probably an intersting basis for a documentary or at least a book or article by say Paul Moon or Scott Hamilton .
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April 26, 2016 2:29pm
mikenmild

I wouldn’t have thought that the Boyd massacre had been erased from history if an ignorant dumbfuck like Longknives had heard of it.
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April 26, 2016 2:31pm
Shunda barunda

The chances of being sexually assaulted by a transgender person in a public toilet are vanishingly small.

That’s true mikey, I honestly agree with that.

Now what about men pretending to be transgender?
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April 26, 2016 2:35pm
RalphT

Well done Biscuit, you’ve cracked it. There’s obviously occult forces at work; I suspect it lies in the pattern you created during the mowing. Perhaps we need a KB mowing roster to help make the absence permanent. I’ll start the ball rolling by volunteering for the Saturday shift.

Good luck for tonight.
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April 26, 2016 2:36pm
thedavincimode

A bit testy today milky!

Surely you aren’t a worriers fan?
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April 26, 2016 2:45pm
mikenmild

Reflecting a bit more on the bathroom craziness, is it just the Americans that seem fixated on solving imaginary problems?

How about:
voter ID laws
‘safety’ regulations for abortion clinics
drug testing for welfare recipients
religious freedom laws to legalise discrimination
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April 26, 2016 2:48pm
mikenmild

Shunda
What percentage of sexual assaults do you think are caused by men pretending to be women in order to access a women’s toilet?
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April 26, 2016 2:52pm
Griff

Miky a reasonable percentage of sexual assaults are done by men in frocks .
They call them priests or something and the assaults happen at a place called a church or some other godwhacking hang out .
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April 26, 2016 2:56pm
starboard

“The chances of being sexually assaulted by a transgender person in a public toilet are vanishingly small.”

Did you find that little tidbit on Wiki as well mm > * snort snigger *
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April 26, 2016 3:10pm
ciaron

Griff (13,119 comments) says:
April 26th, 2016 at 2:56 pm
Miky a reasonable percentage of sexual assaults are done by men in frocks .
They call them priests or something and the assaults happen at a place called a church or some other godwhacking hang out .

As much as I’m tempted to downtick this, it’s a good example of how sexual predators use circumstance to situate themselves for best effect. Another example would be Teachers, and IIRC, Dentistry and Gynecology practices have been exploited by such people…
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April 26, 2016 3:14pm
kowtow

“which corresponds to their biological sex, rather than their gender identity.”

OK the answer can be for rates and taxpayers ,if they choose , to inaugurate toilets designated as follows

Male, Female, Disabled and a new category “Mentally Insane” ( for the cocks in frocks).
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April 26, 2016 3:20pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I think I could be on to a money-spinner with my Krochet doilies.

However, I need a $50,000 business grant to set up a shop down in the mall.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/small-business/79191282/southland-businesswoman-fights-for-her-business

Might need a business plan, also…. Wonder if you Capitalist folks could provide me with a few pointers?
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April 26, 2016 3:27pm
Griff

Male, Female, Disabled and a new category “Mentally Insane” ( for the cocks in frocks).

yip a special rating for priests kow tow .
you are onto it .
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April 26, 2016 3:30pm
Shunda barunda

Shunda
What percentage of sexual assaults do you think are caused by men pretending to be women in order to access a women’s toilet?

Mikey, give it time, human beings are remarkably efficient at exploiting new opportunities for their weird ways.

I’ll give a personal experience as an example.

A few years ago I was with the kids and other family members at the Christchurch botanical gardens on a sunny day, we ended up at the play ground/paddling pool as families tend to do.

There was this guy there by himself on a mountain bike and with a helmet kitted out in all the latest gear, sort lurking in the back ground.
At first no one thought anything of it, but then one by one people started to suspect something wasn’t right.

He was pretending to be talking on a cell phone, but then we watched as he would track kids with his helmet, kind of like panning a camera.

After 10 mins of this he got more brazen and started moving forward, however, more people became suspicious. He was obviously filming the kids with a small helmet mounted camera and the cell phone was either being used as a shutter device or was simply a cover.

Someone then confronted him and asked him what he was doing and it became obvious he was up to no good, then a large Maori women came over and told him in no uncertain terms to eff off and she called the cops. He took off in a hurry. People thanked her for her efforts.

Allowing men into the women’s toilet is a wonderful opportunity for these kinds of creeps and they will gladly exploit it.

The world has gone nuts.
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April 26, 2016 3:30pm
kowtow

“It is because white anglo-saxon christian society is EXTRAORDINARILY uptight, uncomfortable, ashamed, and bent out of shape over sex and sexuality issues, and has been for about a thousand years.”

Those Brits have a lot to answer for in India then , leaving those lovely browny Hindies so bitter and twisted out of shape………..

“A severe lack of sanitation facilities across India is not only putting lives in danger – it’s exposing just how deep gender inequality goes. Gretchen Ferrao investigates the frightening realities faced by Indian women every day, and finds out what’s being done”

https://collectively.org/en/article/how-indias-toilet-crisis-is-also-a-noxious-gender-divide/
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April 26, 2016 3:34pm
kowtow

shunda

“The world has gone nuts.”

Yep , when a young woman stands up at an Obama propaganda event and ‘comes out’ as “non binary ” ( whatever the fuck that is) and the President of the USA says how proud he is of such and it is pushed as a top world news event by the MSM , I agree,

the world, or at least the western world, has gone nuts.
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April 26, 2016 3:40pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Time to break down all gender barriers….

Have unisex hospital wards….(including psychiatric and geriatric wards)

Have unisex prisons and dormitories.

Crikey… its only girls, women and old crones that are getting their knickers in a twist.
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April 26, 2016 3:45pm
Jack5

Whale has a good piece on Rachel (“NZ women are lardo’s”) Smalley.

Did Smalley really confuse the great astronomer Kepler with Kevlar? How thick.

And many in the Auckland celebrity airhead set supported Smalley’s calls to open NZ’s doors to the Middle East invasion. Is there something in Auckland’s privatised water?

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/04/rachel-smalley-thinks-white-privilege-is-what-causes-journalists-to-commit-crimes/#more-246832
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April 26, 2016 3:54pm
Nostradamus

Maggy:

Time to break down all gender barriers

The list is ever-growing.

I thought we had a complete list at “GLBTI” – but I think I recently saw “GLBTIA” (“A” as in asexual).

The “T” is complicated. Pre-ops allowed in public toilet? Only post-ops? And don’t get me started on the “I” – do they get to choose?
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April 26, 2016 4:06pm
starboard

poor mm.. always disappears when his argument gets torn to shreds and flushed down the shit house lmfao !
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April 26, 2016 4:08pm
Fletch

— we should add an “M” to that for miscellaneous.
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April 26, 2016 4:09pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Nostradamus

You are so behind the times…….

http://thelantern.com/2001/10/glbtia-celebrates-30-year-anniversary/

(That reference is 15 years old)
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April 26, 2016 4:13pm
Nostradamus

GLBTIA celebrates 30-year anniversary?

Interesting – so what percentage of the population falls into those categories? Do we have reliable statistics?
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April 26, 2016 4:15pm
Fletch

Miky a reasonable percentage of sexual assaults are done by men in frocks .

Actually, there was/is no more offending by priests than there is in any other profession or any other area of life. It’s just that attention was drawn to it by the media etc.

The priesthood is being cast as the refuge of pederasts. In fact, priests seem to abuse children at the same rate as everyone else.

Experts disagree on the rate of sexual abuse among the general American male population, but Allen says a conservative estimate is one in 10. Margaret Leland Smith, a researcher at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, says her review of the numbers indicates it’s closer to one in 5. But in either case, the rate of abuse by Catholic priests is not higher than these national estimates. The public also doesn’t realize how “profoundly prevalent” child sexual abuse is, adds Smith. Even those numbers may be low; research suggests that only a third of abuse cases are ever reported (making it the most underreported crime). “However you slice it, it’s a very common experience,” Smith says.

Most child abusers have one thing in common, and it’s not piety—it’s preexisting relationships with their victims. That includes priests and ministers and rabbis, of course, but also family members, friends, neighbors, teachers, coaches, scout leaders, youth-group volunteers, and doctors. According to federal studies, three quarters of abuse occurs at the hands of family members or others in the victim’s “circle of trust.”

http://www.newsweek.com/id/236096
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April 26, 2016 4:18pm
Kimbo

@ Fletch

Actually, there was/is no more offending by priests than there is in any other profession or any other area of life. It’s just that attention was drawn to it by the media etc.

Umm, even if that is true, what makes you think “no more offending by priests than there is in any other profession or any other area of life” is a resounding polemic, a sufficient response or acceptable statistic?!

It. Should. Be. Much. Less! Including among Protestant clergy for that matter, too!

Are you starting to see, Shunda barunda, why being on “the side” of Christians helps perpetuate the conditions under which evil can thrive?!

“For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?” (I Peter 4:17)
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April 26, 2016 4:29pm
Griff

Constable “fap fap” fletch and Sargent “hypocrisy” kowtow will now be stationed outside the public toilets at random times .
Under the new public toilet decency act they have the right to careful inspect your genitalia to insure you are in fact the correct sex for the toilet you are wishing to use .
Any one with a particularly small penis such as jack 5 or story board will need to see their doctor to get a genetic test and carry at all times a photographic gender assignment card to insure they are not actually woman with a large clit or in fact hermaphrodites In which case they will be required to use the men in frocks and priests toilet every park over ten hectors will be required to install.
The same test and card will be required for any woman with under a b cup and/ or facial hair . The NZ Theocratic State thanks you for your assistance in complying with this directive. NZTS Helping to making the world safer for repressed god whackers by elevating their imaginary fears to law.
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April 26, 2016 4:31pm
KevinH

In Auckland there is a trend towards those automated public tiolets that are unisex although Malls still have male/female ones. The one problem with automated tiolets especially the ones at Bastion Point is that long queue’s form when a crowd of people arrive on buses. Another change is that urinals for men are on the way out as well which contributes to the queue’s.
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