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srylands

A good blog being ruined again I see.
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March 6, 2016 1:51pm
Awww C-mon

Yup, chasing you over every blog in the country trying to get answers over your hypocrisy and double standards.

I still think you slandered Banks. Those things I found are not acceptable considering the case was overturned.

I doubt you pay your share of taxes and it is clear you don’t pay your share of rates. It is unacceptable to have your friends soliciting private donations for you and the meaning was very clear in that face-book post.

I can’t understand how you can look in the mirror with the way you behave and speak to others all while claiming to be as pure as the driven snow.

I still think you owe Keeping Stock an apology

I will happily get banned from every blog available to me following you around and saying you are a hypocrite and a liar.
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March 6, 2016 1:56pm
Captain Mainwaring

Penny Dreadful,

John Banks pays his rates, so why should he be jailed?
Look in the mirror you deluded old bludger.

Captain Mainwaring
Not 2016 Mayoral candidate for anywhere
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March 6, 2016 1:56pm
calendar girl

Has KB heard from Griff over the last 2 weeks? This was his suspension on 20/02/2016 when he had a go at Maggie:

[DPF: Attack the issue not the person. That’s your third strike and a week off]
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March 6, 2016 1:58pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@stephieboy 12:56pm

Your stand on Creation science and Evolution ? Can’t recall . Do refresh my memory please ?

These are standard techniques promulgated by Naomi Oresekes and Stephan Lewandowsky to link anyone who questions aspects of climate change science with Creationist beliefs/anti-vaccination/conspiracy theories.

Feel free to peruse the last two years of KB to work out my personal beliefs…..but be damned sure that you quote back exactly what I have written. I can’t be bothered doing your research for you…..

but a wee word of warning…. I’m bored with the attacks on my sanity and my supposed links to anti-science……..could you please concentrate on my links to BIG MONEY.
(How did a piece of white trash from the Castlecliff slums get to retire to the heady heights of the Kaiti ghetto?)
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March 6, 2016 2:19pm
Manolo

Rubio will not quit even if he loses Florida:
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-05/cruz-seeks-trump-showdown-with-bid-to-knock-out-rubio-in-florida
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March 6, 2016 2:27pm
renderer

Same shit different blog, what a bloody surprise

People, not just trp, are objecting to your behaviour. You are easily as pigheaded as trp is. Don’t expect people’s objections to change just because trp has had a couple of comments removed. His behaviour is off, but the underlying reasons for why people are having a go at you are valid.

Anyway, now I’m banging my head on a brick wall. Far, far easier to just tell you to fuck off, because nothing anyone says to you has any meaning. FFS, you even ignored Rosie, who replied to one of your comments thoughtfully and taking care and time. You use The Standard for your own agenda, and you do so in ways that offend the culture here socially, politically and in terms of debate protocol, and then you ignore 99% of what people say to you. I think trp’s behaviour is bad for this community but I completely understand why he has nothing to say to you other than abuse.
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March 6, 2016 2:29pm
Andrei

It’s all so silly Maggie – the climate is changing

The trajectory of this change in terms of one climatic variable, temperature, is zeroed in on

And what ever signal there is in all the temperature data is so small as to be virtually undetectable among the noise in the data

But that doesn’t stop people from going off the deep end…..

Those of us who have some scientific literacy know that once upon a time hippopotami swam in the River Thames beside where the British houses of Parliament now stand

And that more recently, a mere 200 years ago, the Thames would freeze over in winter and where 150,000 years previously you could have seen a hippo wallowing in the mud people were now skating with their beaus

Alas the Thames hasn’t frozen since 1812 – the year of Napoleons ignominious retreat from Moscow and modern Londoners are reduced to indoor ice skating rinks to strut their stuff.
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March 6, 2016 2:50pm
Keeping Stock

@ Penny Bright – John Banks was acquitted by the Court of Appeal. Given that you constantly bang on about people being innocent until proven guilty, Banks is, by your very own definition innocent of the trumped-up political charges against him. Yet you still want him jailed, and you have claimed on several occasions that the learned Court of Appeal bench got it wrong.

You Ms Bright are guilty of hypocrisy on a grand scale. Pack it in, and pay the rates the District Court has ordered you to pay. If you are not willing to do that, the do the honourable thing and withdraw from the Auckland mayoral election, because even YOU should be able to see the massive conflict of interest you have.
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March 6, 2016 2:53pm
Manolo

Or ask for another donation from the generous German KDC and settle with the Auckland Council.
What is a few additional thousands of dollars between friends?
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March 6, 2016 2:57pm
Inandout

Andrei: And don’t forget the long droughts London had in the Middle Ages when the Thames dried up. There is nothing new under the sun, as the saying goes; and yes the sun is responsible for a lot of climate change.
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March 6, 2016 3:11pm
wiseowl

Listening to Hillary is so painful.

She has changed her bs in response to Bernie and the Don.
After taking so much money from big business now she is putting the boot in.
What a dreadful women.
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March 6, 2016 3:33pm
Chuck Bird

It certainly looks like a two man race.
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March 6, 2016 4:12pm
Northshoredoc

@keepingstock – As has pointed out many a time by persons on this and other blogs Ms Bright is a liar and hypocrite of quite astounding proportions, here ongoing attempts to portray herself as a reasonable option as mayoral candidate are risible.

Among some of the more reprehensible and pathetic candidates that will stand at the election for Auckland mayor/council she is probably the most pathetic and deluded.

She has achieved nothing of note as a ‘public watchdog’ and serves only as a figure of derision, along with her troupe of similar loons, for those who have come into contact with her.
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March 6, 2016 4:34pm
EAD

Welcome to the nightmare Sweden:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-05/sweden-begins-5-year-countdown-until-it-eliminates-all-cash

“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name – Revelation 13:17
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March 6, 2016 4:45pm
renderer

Penny cuts up rough on the Standard

How about you pull your offensive, bad-tempered head in, — — ——-?
If you can’t debate the issues in a civilised way – maybe the one who should f*** off is YOU?

Seriously?

What’s your problem?

Kind regards

Penny Bright
2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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March 6, 2016 4:49pm
stigie

Good post at 2.53 Keeping Stock, it’s like pushing shit uphill but unfortunately Penny is 2 truck loads worth..?
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March 6, 2016 4:56pm
mikenmild

One for the religious among us. Some evidence that chimpanzees exhibit behaviour that may be analogous to religious motivations in humans.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2079630-what-do-chimp-temples-tell-us-about-the-evolution-of-religion
So there you go: when you pray to Jeebus you are returning to your evolutionary roots.
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March 6, 2016 5:08pm
nasska

Interesting article Mike. It would indicate that primitive rituals & superstitions are not confined to the Godaddled.

The bewildered of this blog may evolve & move on to worshiping magic trees given time. 🙂
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March 6, 2016 5:22pm
Nostradamus

I wonder how Penny would like it if everyone signed off their comments with:

Don’t vote for dodgy Penny!

Which is (in substance) no different to how Penny used to sign off her comments: Dodgy John has gone.
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March 6, 2016 5:23pm
nasska

It’ll be a rare sight watching Shawn & Don the Kiwi jumping up & down while scratching their armpits & banging rocks on tree roots. 🙂
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March 6, 2016 5:24pm
DJP6-25

colville 12:40 pm Newsmax,Fox, and the Telegraph.
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March 6, 2016 5:29pm
mikenmild

Not too much different to queuing up to sample some flesh and blood each Sunday, nasska.
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March 6, 2016 5:36pm
stigie

Must be some powerful shit they eat and drink on Sunday mornings to think athiests just dont cut it !~
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March 6, 2016 5:42pm
mikenmild

And here’s a surprise – something sold via informercials is crap:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/life/77517973/bamboo-pillows-a-pain-in-the-neck
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March 6, 2016 5:43pm
nasska

It’s either a magic spell or an unbelievably heightened level of gullibility stigie.

Next step is the Kool Aid. 🙂
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March 6, 2016 5:46pm
Stars And Stripes

MM 5.08pm

Go to a marae and you will witness the same evolutionary phenomena.
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March 6, 2016 5:48pm
Reid

Welcome to the nightmare Sweden:

Yes EAD.

Sometimes I wonder about the sheeple. It’s always been a race to the bottom of the stupid barrel, but why do they compete so hard to be the first ones there?

http://rall.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/9-5-14.jpg

https://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Untitled-71.jpg

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_AQl355gJpU/UZD99MmBPNI/AAAAAAAAFoE/OTzvUPvGXKQ/s1600/card.PNG
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March 6, 2016 5:53pm
emmess

What are peoples go to sites for USA news?

Real Clear Politics
A good sample of everything.
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March 6, 2016 5:54pm
Reid

Brave Vladimir Putin is pushing for a gold-backed currency, ditching fractional reserve banking, and delivering a defiant rebuke to the Western world’s move towards a digital-only cashless society, according to a report circulating in the Kremlin on Friday.

http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Putin-cashless-society2-881×350.jpg

President Putin swears he will NEVER stop the circulation of cold hard cash because he considers digital-only cashless currency to be a New World Order tactic to gain control over the public.

President Putin has stated his desire to destroy the Illuminati in 2016, and according to Kremlin insiders he believes disrupting the global banking cartel’s plan to ban cash is a key campaign in his war against the New World Order.

The Rothschild controlled global banking lobby want a digital cashless system because this will give them even more control over us. They want to monitor and control every single transaction, while destroying real world currencies so they can issue money that doesn’t exist, creating impossible financial burdens for the masses, all the while accumulating extraordinary real wealth and power for themselves.

Populations relying on a fully digital cashless grid will be incredibly vulnerable in times of crisis, according to the report written by the Office of the President (OP). A terrorist or military attack, or even a storm or power outage, would mean the end of a functional economy. Payments would stop, the economy would grind to a halt, and life as we know it would end. A new, desperate climate would take hold, with entire populations left vulnerable and helpless, completely under the control of their government and the shadowy elites pulling the strings.

Why would Western governments ban cash when there are such disastrous consequences for humanity waiting just around the corner?

Because the shadowy elites and their banking cartels want us to be easily manipulated, cowed and controlled.

We must fight this.

———–

Putin’s 2016 New Year Speech – I’m Going To Defeat The Illuminati

Brave Vladimir Putin appears set for a face off with the Illuminati in a last minute, desperate attempt to stop the outbreak of World War III, Kremlin sources claim.

Putin, whose pets include a black Labrador, brown bear, and 1.5 million Chechans, has decided on his 2016 New Years resolutions a remarkable three weeks early, proving yet again that he is two steps ahead of Barack Obama, the Turkish airforce, and ISIS.

“In 2016 I will stop the Illuminati from starting world war three. And quit smoking,” Putin announced to a star struck Kremlin tour group, before fixing them with his trademark pitiless stare.

“I will do this…with my bare hands,” he continued. According to Kremlin sources the tour group burst into spontaneous applause.

His new year’s resolution speech comes after Illuminati member Jacob Rothschild accused Putin of being a traitor to the New World Order, amid Russia ‘going rogue’ in their fight against ISIS in Syria.

Putin, the proud dad of two pretty amazing kids, can bench press 220 and listed his interests as “dioxin, polonium 210, thallium, and bending lead pipes” in his high school yearbook.

http://yournewswire.com/putins-2016-new-year-speech-im-going-to-defeat-the-illuminati/
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March 6, 2016 6:08pm
F E Smith

Two things:

1. I am surprised it is Cruz, but it is fantastic that someone is finally pushing Trump hard. The sooner Trump goes the better.

2. I have just watched Amy Adams speaking about the IPCA on One News. There is a woman who hasn’t a clue what she is talking about.
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March 6, 2016 6:14pm
wiseowl

Wow!
Anyone catch Justice Janines slamming of “Mit’ ?

That will have him squirming.
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March 6, 2016 6:14pm
mikenmild

Putin, whose pets include a black Labrador, brown bear, and 1.5 million Chechans

Do you even read the rubbish you post, Reid? Sure you didn’t stumble over a satire site?
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March 6, 2016 6:14pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@stephieboy 12:56pm

Your stand on Creation science and Evolution ? Can’t recall . Do refresh my memory please ?

I do hope you haven’t spent the last 5 hours trying to figure out whether I am a creationist or not.

let me help you with your memory…

Didn’t you post a comment to me a few weeks ago about your matai floors? You had discovered that I’d written something in Te Ara about matai.
Did you read the first sentence of that article?
Here it is..

Conifers are cone-bearing, woody seed plants. They belong to an ancient group called gymnosperms, which appeared 360 million years ago – long before flowering plants.

Hope that helps…
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March 6, 2016 6:16pm
Awww C-mon

MM

I just had a read, its awesome!

““In 2016 I will stop the Illuminati from starting world war three. And quit smoking,”

“I will do this…with my bare hands,” he continued. According to Kremlin sources the tour group burst into spontaneous applause.” wait no, “burst into spontaneous laughter”
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March 6, 2016 6:17pm
wiseowl

Well if Putin is against a cashless society then I am with him.

Cold hard cash.The only real currency.

Fight any moves to take away our freedom.
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March 6, 2016 6:21pm
wiseowl

FE Smith .
You’re right about Adams.
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March 6, 2016 6:24pm
Reid

Do you even read the rubbish you post, Reid? Sure you didn’t stumble over a satire site?

Of course I did mm, that’s why I posted two separate items, in case some people were so fucking dumb they didn’t get it the first time.

Evidently I should have posted a third to pick up the dregs in the dummy dept (i.e. you and who knows how many others).

But useful background mm, now I know why you say what you say here.

Do your lips move when you read these “complicated GD (General Debate) posts?

Really?

Are you sure?
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March 6, 2016 6:27pm
mikenmild

So do you think Putin will defeat the Illuminati this year? Or will he settle for stopping smoking?
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March 6, 2016 6:28pm
Keeping Stock

@ stigie – several truckloads, and after the summer wew’ve had, the smell of her hypocrisy, bullying, hectoring behaviour is pretty rancid. I’d get Auckland Council’s health inspectors in, but their duties have been cut back because of a $34,000 hole in the budget 😀
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March 6, 2016 6:30pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Congrats to Jerry Hall & Rupert Murdoch
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35735651
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March 6, 2016 6:34pm
Reid

So do you think Putin will defeat the Illuminati this year?

The question is mm, did your lips move when you wrote that post?
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March 6, 2016 6:35pm
Jacob

Keeping Stock –

$34,000 (not realized) plus $104,000 (actually already spent on deformation lawyers) is around $138,000 – a bigger hole in the budget than you mention.
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March 6, 2016 6:44pm
big bruv

Great to see the New Zealand’s sickening Rugby arrogance punctured so early in the year. I really will enjoy watching how the rugby nation goes into a major sulk when NZ does not win the gold medal.
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March 6, 2016 6:44pm
Reid

While mm’s thinking about that one, I highly recommend http://yournewswire.com/

It’s great.

Kernels of truth mixed with humour.

Trick is, do you know what the truth is because there’s a lot more in it than someone who only listened to the Western MSM would get. A hell of a lot more.
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March 6, 2016 6:44pm
Andrei

I’d have never taken you as a follower of glitterati nuptials Maggy

Got a Women’s weekly collection?
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March 6, 2016 6:45pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Andrei
The NZ Woman’s Weekly is now owned by the Bauer Group….Not sure if they’ll run a big spread on Murdoch-Hall.

I’ll just have to stayed glued to the news channels and watch all the glamour and glitz.

Donated all my copies of women’s mags to the Sallies…. only have room for copies of “Hooked on Boars”
http://www.hookedonboars.com/Default.htm
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March 6, 2016 7:07pm
Jacob

Nostradamous

Thank you – yes, of course defamation – although there is something pretty deformed about the whole thing too
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March 6, 2016 7:09pm
sooty

Dont vote for dodgy penny. Rumor was that you used your penny as a health check before use.
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March 6, 2016 7:35pm
nasska

Perhaps we should count our blessings. The mad Watchdog has made no less than 13 comments over at The Standard while we squeaked by with three.

It seems possible that there IS a God & He doesn’t like socialists. 🙂
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March 6, 2016 7:49pm
Chuck Bird

@FE Smith

You right on both counts.
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March 6, 2016 7:54pm
Rachael Membery

What a load of crap, thank goodness no one passed her the laser kiwi flag. Thank goodness that I have voted and that it will be over soon.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/77591064/Madonna-uses-NZ-flag-as-cape-prompts-referendum-speculation

Thank-you Labour for the nudge, but for you, I might have been apathetic.
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March 6, 2016 8:01pm
The Virgin

Nasska, A fuckin M, where is the SIS when we need the nut cases taken away and introduced to the pain monkey?
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March 6, 2016 8:03pm
nasska

I’d settle for a well equipped team of mental health professionals TV. A quick injection & a spell in the rubber room would quieten things down a bit. 🙂
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March 6, 2016 8:14pm
Don the Kiwi

Just a few quotes that may benefit nasska and mm, but knowing them, they will prove what is said.

Quotes About Self Delusion
“Sometimes, when you don’t ask questions, it’s not because you are afraid that someone will lie to your face. It’s because you’re afraid they’ll tell you the truth.”
― Jodi Picoult

“The human brain is a complex organ with the wonderful power of enabling man to find reasons for continuing to believe whatever it is that he wants to believe.”
― Voltaire

“You can fool yourself, you know. You’d think it’s impossible, but it turns out it’s the easiest thing of all.”
― Jodi Picoult, Vanishing Acts

“The author concedes that humanity had the fatal tendency to shape truth to our beliefs rather than beliefs to the Truth.”
― Frank Turek, I Don’t Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
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March 6, 2016 8:46pm
nasska

Here you go Don. Scratch first then bang tree with rock! 🙂

https://youtu.be/bylgKMko97I
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March 6, 2016 8:51pm
RF

Have Sky gone mad. Inviting Judy Bailey to introduce some of their programmes.

Is the mother of the Nation down to her last million.

FFS she is a leech.
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March 6, 2016 9:13pm
Simon

Generally nothing wrong with porn. Watch it with gf now and again. Useful for new ideas and can be quite funny.

Can though see how it can be an issue with those who can’t shoot a load without watching porn. Much like those who jerk off to the thought of man made global warming and then on the down times post here.
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March 6, 2016 9:16pm
Left Right and Centre

Nick Willis – um – wow – ok. Dude – you’re a dude. I’m not into hard porn myself (truly truly truly) – I do love my sexy girlie pictures. They’ve even got bits of clothing on. Too poor for internet video. I’m a bit of an old fashioned romantic. I don’t like the nasty shit. I like the chick in ‘Thinking Out Loud’ music video for eg. She is what I’m talkin bout. Mmm-mmm-mmmmm. Yowee-yow-ya-yow-yowser. WOAH !!!! What a man melter she is.

Ah yeah – well – we could be here all day. We’re talking human sexuality and addiction. Yeah. The eye roll cringe is that Nick has now found his cause – as he has to, entering his later years. He’s now going to be on TV like JK. He will find one post-run life as an advocate. He’s going to be the celebrity pioneer who makes it ‘ok’ to talk about porn addiction. See ? It could happen to anyone – even the nice little boy-man next door who runs like the last pornsite on earth is at the finishing line.

What’s his wife called ? Sierra ? Get out of here !! Insert joke like she does. Arf !! Just kidding – Without Nick reminding the Africans that white people can almost run like they can – where would we all be, huh ?
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March 6, 2016 9:26pm
Left Right and Centre

Don’t own a TV. I know that. Don’t try to save me – it’s too late. Worst advert going round easy – drug-driving. At least the dude in the car isn’t fat. It should be a fat person – closer to reality. Don’t watch adverts. I don’t !! I don’t know how many screenings that one has had . . . a *shitload*. Some ads – I don’t watch ads and I’ve *still been buggered senseless by them*. How on earth is that possible tell me ?

And one I like – beer ad with funny voiceover dobbing in the characters. Not that hard, is it ? Get those people to do the drug-driving ad. Of course – it can be hard to tell whether it’s for drug-driving – that’s about the mentality of a lot out there without any help at all. Excuse me while I power-view an entire season of Real Housewives of Melbourne. People watch that. Think about it.
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March 6, 2016 9:51pm
Manolo

@nasska: Where is our mate Johnboy? Did he elope with a plump ewe?
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March 6, 2016 10:04pm
Rachael Membery

Rachael Membery (2,433 comments) says:

March 6th, 2016 at 8:01 pm

That story seems to have omitted the fact that apparently Madonna draped herself in the Phillipino flag when there also according to Stuff ‘After wearing the Philippines flag on stage in Manila in February she was warned it was disrespectful and that she may not be welcomed back into the country.’ Are they going through a democratic process, potentially changing their flag too?
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March 6, 2016 10:50pm
Manolo

Still unclear:
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c951f3ce70d44811b9a3b3188401d9d1/latest-votes-deliver-anything-clarity-gop-race

Offering anything but clarity, Republicans delivered a split verdict between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in the latest round of presidential voting, offering fresh evidence of the turmoil still roiling the GOP after 19 states have had their say.

Trump, still the front-runner in the delegate count, bagged Kentucky and Louisiana on Saturday. Cruz, cementing his claim to be the Trump alternative, captured Kansas and Maine.

Trump said it was time for Marco Rubio to exit the race. But the Florida senator insisted he was still fixing to win his home state of Florida on March 15.
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March 7, 2016 6:44am
Manolo

This timid serial loser is seeking another loss against liar Clinton. For sure:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/06/romney-touts-cruz-wins-over-trump-will-not-reject-gop-nod-if-drafted-at-convention.html?intcmp=hpbt3

Mitt Romney said Sunday that GOP presidential candidate Ted Cruz winning two primary states this weekend proves the Texas senator can stop front-runner Donald Trump, but declined to rule out his own White House scenario.
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March 7, 2016 6:48am
stephieboy

Manolo. my your yet again early at it doing your bit propping up the spluttering Trump campaign . Were you supporting Barack as opposed to Mitt in 2012 as matter of interest. ?
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