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Scott Chris

Rubio seems to have eased off the mockery/insult route.

Yes, I can see why. It doesn’t resonate with his core support but Trump kinda goaded him into it and I would have thought his supporters would have understood why he responded that way. (note: there was too little time between the recent Republican debate and for any effect of it to show in election results imo) Well at least he went down swinging unlike Jeb!
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March 4, 2016 4:57pm
mikenmild

tom
I see it has come down to Trump and Rubio comparing penis sizes:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/03/donald_trump_penis_size_i_can_t_believe_i_m_writing_this.html

Edit: Snap!
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March 4, 2016 4:58pm
tom hunter

I’m looking forward to all the Kiwiblog Trump fans turning up to fight the good fight after this debacle. What the guy does not know is fucking painful to watch. I’m surprised that he let Cruz lecture him at one point like a not very smart ten year old – maybe Trump figures it paints Cruz as another one dem dreaded smart persons. 5% poll boost for Trump.

“Winner”. Yeah, just like Charlie Sheen. And more Wrestling Federation stuff – this time a tag team on Trump.

Cruz: “Breathe, breathe, breath, Dinald. I know it’s hard.

Rubio: When theyre done with the yoga can i answer?

Cruz: I hope we don’t see yoga on stage

Rubio: He’s really flexible, so you never know
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March 4, 2016 5:08pm
mikenmild

Don’t worry, tom, deadrightkev will be along to praise Trump in due course…
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March 4, 2016 5:10pm
mikenmild

Rubio: “Trump is a con man who’ll screw America like he did everyone scammed by Trump U.”

Will you support him as nominee?

“Oh, of course.”
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March 4, 2016 5:20pm
Scott Chris

tom hunter (6,304 comments) says:
March 4th, 2016 at 5:08 pm

What the guy does not know is fucking painful to watch.

Only to those who know what he doesn’t know.
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March 4, 2016 5:30pm
tom hunter

Rubio: “Trump is a con man who’ll screw America like he did everyone scammed by Trump U.”

Will you support him as nominee?

“Oh, of course.”

Yeah, yeah, mm, a GOP Civil war is what you want – and what you may get.

In the meantime I wonder how all those Obama worshippers/Hillary haters from 2008 are feeling right about now? Suck it up and vote tribal again after lambasting her for a year about her endless mendacity and shady connections? Maybe that’s why the Democrat primary turnout has been so low. There’s some shit even Obama voters can’t swallow?
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March 4, 2016 5:37pm
Andrei

Oh dear, that is… don’t know what to say

You should say nothing

We live in a world facing significant problems with millions displaced and God knows how many dead and all we get is the inane babble from the American Presidential election which is frankly grotesque as a bunch of clowns seek bragging rights for the chaos that is to come

What this shows is whatever the alleged average IQ score for the USA is they remain stupid to the point of being actually moronic
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March 4, 2016 5:39pm
Scott Chris

Suck it up and vote tribal again after lambasting her for a year about her endless mendacity and shady connections?

I’d consider Rubio over Clinton.

Maybe that’s why the Democrat primary turnout has been so low.

Maybe some of them have been voting for Trump.
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March 4, 2016 5:43pm
wf

http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/fireproof-bulletproof-ecofriendly-homes/

Cheap too. Ideal for those Aucklanders wanting their first home –
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March 4, 2016 5:43pm
Stars And Stripes

Yes having so much American coverage on TV and radio must be driving you crazy Andrei.
But remember it is only on there because the USA matters and is the world leader in most things so will affect everyone.
I actually heard they were going to cover the next presidential “election” in Russia to the same level in the world media but they decided it was not likely to happen as most of the candidates were expected to mysteriously die or be imprisoned on ‘tax avoidance” charges.
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March 4, 2016 5:56pm
Andrei

Stars And Stripes it has come to this “Donald Trump declares during debate that he’s got a big enough penis to run the country”
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March 4, 2016 6:02pm
EAD

One of the most noticeable trends of my lifetime has been how the so called alt media has now replaced the MSM has the only repository of real journalism:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/03/02/vital-preparing-for-the-upcoming-eu-total-collapse/

However, EU citizens are being intentionally misguided and mislead in both identifying and dealing with all of these challenges by their governments.

In the pursuit of upholding the interests of the international banking cartel and the geopolitical machinations of a few in the US elite, the Euro bureaucracy leads the EU to an inevitable collapse.

Calls for reasonable policies and the step-by-step development of the EU espoused by a number of European political forces cause only a hysterical reaction by Brussels and fierce criticism from the European mainstream media.

Critics are marginalized as a minority, meanwhile, real social and economic situations are suppressed.
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March 4, 2016 6:07pm
starboard

“http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/77570302/donald-trump-declares-during-debate-that-hes-got-a-big-enough-penis-to-run-the-country”

exit scottchris to the toilet..tissues..oil..sock..
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March 4, 2016 6:09pm
Stars And Stripes

Is this really so different Andrei from all the bullshit macho stuff we get about the Russian President like strutting around with no shirt on and doing heroic deeds like wrestling wild animals and hand to hand combat etc.
Its all propaganda, just a different kind of show from Trump.
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March 4, 2016 6:11pm
Andrei

You are clueless Stars and Stripes

What Western Politician would allow a hostile foreign journalist to ask him a question on TV being broadcast live nationally?

For your edification a recent example involving John Simpson from the BBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwmSzHnaelc&feature=iv&src_vid=-KHCNk9BYy4&annotation_id=annotation_684321825
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March 4, 2016 6:28pm
pentwig

Stephanie had to go. Sorry. She was showing her foolishness. Got too hard for her. Great!!!
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March 4, 2016 6:33pm
All_on_Red

After Trumps penis size comment my thoughts and prayers are totally with the staff at Washington Post fact checker.
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March 4, 2016 6:33pm
Tom Barker

Trump’s poll ratings in free fall now. He may have to punch Megyn Kelly in the face on live TV to “re-energise his base”.
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March 4, 2016 6:38pm
All_on_Red

Interesting clip Andrei. There’s no doubt Putin is a master as his game, gotta say, he has some valid points but skipping the Ukraine issue was a bit tricky.
– before you go on about that at me, I do get the historical connection and appreciate the people of The Crimea are probably happy to be part of Russia again.
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March 4, 2016 6:44pm
nasska

Self-service supermarket checkouts……taking the embarrassment out of buying lube, condoms & the NZ Herald.
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March 4, 2016 6:44pm
All_on_Red

Oh look I got down ticks for my Custer comment. I’m wounded , but not as wounded as the elderly men and women, women and children he massacred at the Battle of Washita River. They were slaughtered.
Like most I thought Custer was a hero, he did well in the Civil War but what he did there was awful.
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March 4, 2016 6:50pm
Reid

You are clueless Stars and Stripes

Putin’s biggest weapon in breaking down the wall of anti-Putinism was his never-ending press conferences, where in both length and scope he covered material that no Western politician would ever dreaming of doing.

Mainstream corporate media has not covered these well, as the material is too damaging to the negative propaganda image they have worked to help build against Putin.

His end of the year 2015 Valdai press conference was a sterling example of the Western media’s lying by omission. I meet no one outside of very active alternative media people who had ever heard of Valdai or Putin’s history of addresses and his famous Q&A sessions.

So I wanted to do a highlights piece for not only NEO, but to be able to republish for Western audiences. The video footage shows middle-aged people sitting on the edge of their chairs with laser focus, almost like people at a John F. Kennedy address.

If jealous Western leaders wanted a valid reason to hate Putin, the best I have seen so far is the contrast in both style and content that he represents to them. There are many names for it, but in the US the term “bush leaguer” comes to mind — people claiming to be in professional sports, but playing for a team or league that no one has ever heard of.

The theme topic for the 2015 Valdai conference was “Societies between War and Peace: Overcoming the Logic of Conflict in Tomorrow’s World”. Geopolitical experts and media people from thirty countries attended, many of them alumni from over ten years of meetings. I highly recommend checking out the Valdai website. The one Putin speech has more gem quotes in it than you will find in a year’s worth of the NATO brand. His full speech and the Q&A are both available.

I will start with Putin asking former US Ambassador Jack Matlock about the consequences of the US withdrawing from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, where Matlock objected to the withdrawal but did not think it should pose a threat to Russia.

Putin reviewed that the phony Iran nuclear threat was used like a strawman threat for its being able to nuke European countries, yet that lie was exposed in the successful conclusion of those talks, without even Israel submitting evidence of a secret program.

Former ambassador to Russia, Jack Matlock was a prominent guest at Valdai
Former ambassador to Russia, Jack Matlock was a prominent guest at Valdai

With that phony threat exposed to the world in 2015, we learn that the Russian claim that it was pointed at that is exactly the truth. The missile shield locations close to Russia could easily be converted to cruise missile first strike capability, and with mini-nuke warheads can be used for decapitation strikes.

An anti-missile screen deployment is all about protecting oneself from retaliation to a Pearl Harbor-type sneak attack — about as serious a threat as there is.

As to the question on the mess in Ukraine, Putin reviewed how the West had supported the election of Yuschenko via a third round of voting that was flagrantly unconstitutional. And this was followed by the violent Western-backed Maidan coup after Yanukovych had agreed to the protesters’ demands.

After Russia had worked with both the Yuschenko and Tymoshenko governments, including continuing subsidies to Ukraine, the West imposed sanctions on Russia for protecting the Russian people in Crimea against the murdering thugs in Kiev. Putin reviewed not only the US involvement in financing opposition in Ukraine, but Russia, also.

This brought up the subject of the US’ and NATO’s intentions toward Russia, where NATO does its stand-up comedy routine claiming that its advance toward Russia’s border should not be viewed as a hostile attack, but as validation that it would come to the defense of Eastern European countries if they were attacked by Russia.

Putin reviewed that during the talks on German reunification, the German partner that Europe’s future should also be settled so as to not kick that can down the road, which is what happened.

Putin during Valdai Q&A, where he sometimes was asking the questions
Putin during Valdai Q&A, where he sometimes was asking the questions

“Mr. Ambassador [Matlock], your colleagues did not reach agreements then on the basic principles of what would follow Germany’s reunification: the question of prospective NATO membership for Germany, the future of military infrastructure, its forms and development, and the coordination of security issues in Europe.

Oral agreements were reached back then, but nothing was put on paper, nothing fixed, and so it went from there.

But as you all recall from my speech in Munich, when I made this point, back then, the NATO Secretary General gave the oral assurance that the Soviet Union could be sure that NATO – I quote – would not expand beyond the eastern borders of today’s GDR. And yet the reality was completely different. There were two waves of NATO expansion eastwards, and now we have missile defense systems right on our borders too. “

There is an old saying among attorneys that agreements are made to be broken, and in this case, verbal ones certainly were. And this seems to have become a habit with the West, which hawks freedom and democracy like a snake oil salesman, while subverting non-threatening countries and fomenting regime change for any profitable purpose that some elite group aspires to. The American people certainly have not signed on to any of these offensive actions…

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/03/02/neo-putins-new-world-order-versus-the-wests/

You can easily find that Valdai conference S&S and validate the above for yourself.

But you won’t.

Nor will you ask yourself why no Western leaders puts themselves up for similar, will you.

Of course not.

Asking that question honestly to yourself, might cause serious hurt tummy syndrome, you might begin to question your whole foundation of who’s the good guys and who are the bad guys, and that just simply cannot be allowed to happen, can it. Fuck the logic, it’s your tummy what counts, in your geopolitics, ain’t it.
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March 4, 2016 6:52pm
All_on_Red

The other funny part was where Cruz was telling Trump to “breathe, breathe, breathe , relax, you can do it” (trying to get him to stop biting) and the the moderator said, ” I hope we are not going to see Yoga on the stage” at which Rubio piped up,” I’m sure Donald can be flexible!”
Zing- got a good laugh.
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March 4, 2016 6:53pm
mikenmild

nasska
Reminds me of a classic Monty Python sketch:

Mee And Harry, what are your hobbies outside summarizing?
Harry Well, strangling animals, golf and masturbating.
Mee Well, thank you Harry Bagot.
[Harry walks off-stage. Music and applause.]
Voice Over Well there he goes. Harry Bagot. He must have let himself down a bit on the hobbies, golf’s not very popular around here, but never mind, a good try.
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March 4, 2016 6:55pm
Stars And Stripes

Just as a footnote Andrei you should have come to Taranaki last week as we had the Americana car rally here and the whole place was decorated up with USA flags and stuff.
Total celebration of everything American.
You would have enjoyed it immensely so it was a shame you missed it.
There were going to be some Ladas in it but they all broke down on the way but never mind.
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March 4, 2016 6:55pm
tom hunter

Tom Barker (293 comments) says:
March 4th, 2016 at 6:38 pm

Trump’s poll ratings in free fall now.

Pffft. They’ll probably go up as they have after every other stupid thing he’s said – and I say that as someone who does not wish him well.

Still, it’s good to see the penis thing discussed. It’s always been the subject of snide remarks from left-wingers over the years – America as packing The Big One – and so forth. And now it’s out there.

The real question is – even assuming The Donald is packing something bigger than a weasels wedding tackle, big enough to run the US of A – is that really the proper measuring tool!!! What if he’s confronting Putin or Xi Jinping and they drop their pants and reveal that they’re packing something bigger?

Will that truly be the end of the US as a super power, ending not with a whimper but guffaws?

Serious minds want to know after this GOP debate.
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March 4, 2016 6:57pm
Stars And Stripes

Reid- nice of you to pop in but probably your time would be spent more wisely consulting your fishmonger mate in the public market in the Philippines and see what he has to say about all that.
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March 4, 2016 6:58pm
mikenmild

Remember when there was a thriving trade with Russia and we got a whole lot of Ladas here for the butter, etc? After they all broke down there was quite a thriving trade returning them to Russia on fishing trawlers from Nelson to sell as spare parts.
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March 4, 2016 7:00pm
rangitoto

“”Trump’s poll ratings in free fall now.”

Pffft. They’ll probably go up as they have after every other stupid thing he’s said – and I say that as someone who does not wish him well.”

Gained two points in the latest poll I saw.
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March 4, 2016 7:01pm
nasska

….”Serious minds want to know after this GOP debate”…..

I’m more interested in how Hilary measures up against Rubio. 🙂
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March 4, 2016 7:02pm
starboard

Hosking still watches himself in the monitor when he is performing. What an ego. What a dick.
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March 4, 2016 7:05pm
blazeoflight

What has Bill English done to our police services?

I witnessed tonight a disagreement between neighbours (male v female, the male very aggressive) which could have turned nasty, and luckily didn’t, but the male (who had reason to be aggrieved, but not by intimidating a mother with two babies at her feet) does need a talking to.

It is impossible, it seems, in Auckland to report a non-urgent (I almost called 111 earlier but I was able to de-escalate the situation, but not before a minor assault occurred). The local (mainly unattended) cop shop answers via recorded message to say the call will be dealt with soon, and just cuts off at that point;

Central put me in a loop of dialling 3 and waiting…waiting…- even IRD does better!

Ah well, I guess it have to be an in person visit – when I find an unlocked station.
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March 4, 2016 7:07pm
nasska

That business over the Ladas was weird Mike. The Russian fishermen were paying dealers’ prices for the crap & taking them back as deck cargo on the trawlers.

By the way they rusted out on NZ roads I often wondered if there would be enough left to unload by the time they got back to Vladivostok.
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March 4, 2016 7:07pm
blazeoflight

@Starboard:

You actually watch that prick?
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March 4, 2016 7:08pm
All_on_Red

You’d be a John Campbell fan wouldn’t you Blaze
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March 4, 2016 7:12pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Another intriguing group for intelligence are the Mongolians. Even though they are a relatively undeveloped and less educated country, and pretty much all live in Yurts they are in the top 5 for average IQ in whole world – ahead of most European countries. I know people who’ve visited and say that the average Mongol is noticeably very sharp and quick to pick things up – cold dry climate, very hard winters, and historically you had to be a good planner and a hard worker or you died.

http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html

It provides a real problem for those that deny reality of strong genetic basis for intelligence – that low development and education (GDP per capita would put it behind 14 african countries like eg Swaziland, Namibia and Angola) yet average IQ in Mongolia is 2 standard deviations ahead of sub Saharan African nations. An average Mongolian is literally a genius by Sub Saharan African standards.

Ghengis’s golden horde (for all their immediate horrors) actually made a huge contribution to the rise of industrial civilisation several centuries later by injecting more genes for high intelligence into Asia and Europe.

I think that long term Mongolia is one of the smartest places to invest – their intelligence and work ethic will make them an excellent and still very cheap workforce.
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March 4, 2016 7:13pm
blazeoflight

All Red

I don’t do fanship, but I do listen to Campbell’s hard news items if I’m around.
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March 4, 2016 7:15pm
Left Right and Centre

Re: Donald Trump. He’s good. He’s very good. If you ever watched The Apprentice or read his books – he’s very smart in business and smart at dealing with and managing people – he’s a bit of a human whisperer.

Think about The Apprentice – The Donald is the master lord of the game now himself interviewing for the highest office in the land. He should do quite well, yeah ? Is it a bit like interviewing Andrew Lloyd Webber to help out with the end of year school musical. You’d expect to see a master class from someone who wrote the book. He will no doubt show how it’s done – all of his advice to others over time – now he’s walking the walk – this is how you do it. Like a pro.

It’s at the very least fascinating to see him take on the ultimate challenge of using every last ounce of his considerable skill and talent to seek election. He lives for the art of the deal. He lives to work. He’s from real life – he’s not a career politician. I thought that alone would gain him many a KB admirer. He’s a bit of a US Bob Jones. Or a lot.

Does America run the world ? Does the US elect the leader of planet earth ? If not – you’d believe it with the saturation coverage and kiwis following the US as if they are US citizens. Why is that ? Is it because NZ doesn’t have anything exciting to follow being a small country – so why not follow a big exciting country ? Is it a cultural connection – they are NZ’s cultural cousins – sharing a common language ? We depend of them for part of our trade ? The World hinges on who they elect ?

Why don’t people get as excited about Chinese politics ? Or Russia ? India ? Brazil ? Mexico ? Egypt ? Indonesia ? Japan ? Germany ? France ? Spain ? Or even the UK. Hmmm.
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March 4, 2016 7:16pm
starboard

Only to reconfirm that he is an egotistical fuck Blaze..but, he is marginally better than those other 2 clowns on 3 , Pies Garner and the pixie HDA. How Barely Sober managed to net her is beyond me.
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March 4, 2016 7:17pm
blazeoflight

@Urban Colonist

IQ is not genetic. IQ can be learned.

That said it’s good to see New Zealand much higher than Israel in your table (not that I ascribe any true validity to it) so I guess that puts paid to Jews as geniuses racist crap.
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March 4, 2016 7:19pm
tom hunter

That business over the Ladas …

It was the tractors that I remember.

Dad and I saw them at one Hamilton Field Day and I have a vivid memory of looking at the towbar and seeing all the metal flakes still attached – and painted along with the rest of the bar. They hadn’t bothered grinding them off, just pulled straight from the stamping tool and bolted them on, ready for immediate shipment to ~~to the front lines~~ New Zealand.

I think the brand was Belarus, like the state?
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March 4, 2016 7:20pm
All_on_Red

Campbell’s ‘hard’ news- snigger.
The guy is one of the biggest soft cocks around
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March 4, 2016 7:20pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Blazeoflight 7:07

What has Bill English done to our police services?

Wasn’t Kea saying something similar a couple of weeks ago about the front-line police force being gutted?
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March 4, 2016 7:21pm
blazeoflight

I didn’t see it, Maggie, but it would appear he has a point.
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March 4, 2016 7:23pm
Reid

Reid- nice of you to pop in but probably your time would be spent more wisely consulting your fishmonger mate in the public market in the Philippines and see what he has to say about all that.

SS you seem delusional.

Nothing new I know but just mildly curious where that comes from.

But notwithstanding, no comment on the conference, or just: Obama is your mate and he’s the best and then Trump or Hellary will be your latest, cos that’s just how you roll?

It just seems a bit mental that’s all.

But nevertheless, that’s what you guys seem to do.

So more of the same, or some sanity?

What are you planning, this time?
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March 4, 2016 7:23pm
kowtow

Dedicated to All on Red ,Scott Chris and the men of the 7 th Cavalry .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m7RPjQxjmA
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March 4, 2016 7:27pm
Longknives

“A 29-year-old Somali builder, Vegita, said a police officer stopped him when he was driving home at night and said: “What are you doing in the area, criminal?””

“What are you doing in the area criminal”???

This is just ridiculous! Can anyone of sane mind actually imagine a New Zealand Police Officer using those words??
Not even the worst Cop show imaginable would use a line that cheesey!
Yet the Herald reports this as Gospel desperately trying to spark up a ‘Black Lives Matter’ controversy in New Zealand!

Pathetic. I hope Police National Headquarters fight back and slam what is clearly bullshit.
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March 4, 2016 7:30pm
All_on_Red

Kowtow
I’m sure Scott Chris does things with his boots on that the men of the 7th didn’t…
Actually Custer shouldn’t have got trapped there if he had listened to a couple of his Scouts. Hubris probably got him in the end.If only John Wayne had been there.
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March 4, 2016 7:30pm
stigie

“How Barely Sober managed to net her is beyond me”.

He probably saw in her what you see in the girls in Bangkok Starbored..?
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March 4, 2016 7:38pm
Andrei

skipping the Ukraine issue was a bit tricky

Not really – he had covered that in depth with several questions from preceding journalists – including some from Ukraine.

That is only a small excerpt from a mammoth press conference involving journalists from all over the world that lasted as I recall nearly three hours – this is a regular (annual) event that goes virtually unremarked in the Western media

No other politician in the world opens himself up to the foreign media in this way and it is broadcast live on Russian TV

And as you can see the journalists are not sycophants – another who was there was Charlie Rose from CBS who got a one on one with VVP
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March 4, 2016 7:39pm
nasska

Tom Hunter

….”They hadn’t bothered grinding them off, just pulled straight from the stamping tool and bolted them on”…..

Much the same as the quads made in China over the past years. Beautiful shiny plastics but the finish of the steel underneath is shocking & no match for Kiwi cowshit or causmag.

By the way the paint falls off them I reckon that a 4 litre tin of undercoat would last the entire manufacturing sector of the PRC for at least a year.
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March 4, 2016 7:39pm
Scott Chris

All_on_Red (2,697 comments) says:
March 4th, 2016 at 6:33 pm
After Trumps penis size comment my thoughts and prayers are totally with the staff at Washington Post fact checker.

Oh crikey the heights of debate we’ve been elevated to.

Thanks Donald.
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March 4, 2016 7:40pm
All_on_Red

“IQ is not genetic. IQ can be learned.”
I guess this is what all the students doing a BA in Women’s Feminist Media Studies tell themselves.
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March 4, 2016 7:40pm
AgentBallSack

starboard have you come across many asian crime syndicates in your travels?
Serious question

Edited: Or any KiwiBloggers in their travels?
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March 4, 2016 7:41pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Sorry Blaze but IQ is predominantly decided at conception (in the absence of later disease, deprivation or injury). It’s nasty and unfair, but reality and evolution gives no fucks about injustice or the preferences of SJWs.

This reality makes it almost impossible to do honest and open research and publication in the field – because presenting the facts as they are (particularly with respect to race – where you can only freely acknowledge positives like athletic prowess, never anything potentially negative) will almost certainly get you drummed into unemployment by the PC brigade. But politically motivated virtue signalling apologetics like S.J.Gould and others are a joke to genuine researchers.
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March 4, 2016 7:41pm
All_on_Red

“He probably saw in her what you see in the girls in Bangkok Starbored..?”
A penis?

Sorry SB, it was too easy to pass on
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March 4, 2016 7:44pm
Scott Chris

All_on_Red (2,698 comments) says:
March 4th, 2016 at 7:40 pm
“IQ is not genetic. IQ can be learned.”
I guess this is what all the students doing a BA in Women’s Feminist Media Studies tell themselves.

I’d suggest that IQ studies are relevant to the context of the participating test takers.

I heard Albert Einsten flunked badly on Amazon Survival Intelligence.
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March 4, 2016 7:44pm
Scott Chris

AgentBallSack (1,755 comments) says:
March 4th, 2016 at 7:41 pm
starboard have you come across many asian crime syndicates in your travels?

Q. When walking through the jungle what do you do if you come across an elephant?

A. Say sorry and wipe it off.
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March 4, 2016 7:54pm
MT_Tinman

blazeoflight (853 comments) says:
March 4th, 2016 at 7:07 pm

Just go straight to Paremoremo Blaze, cut out the middleman.
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March 4, 2016 7:57pm
AgentBallSack

I am not much into elephant porn but…
Heres a joke:
Q. How many Catholic Priests does it take to molest a boy?
A. All of them.
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March 4, 2016 8:02pm
Stars And Stripes

Reid- since you seem to have forgotten about your fishmonger mate I referred to here he is again.

We are located at Stall #56 Public Market, St. Bernard, Southern Leyte, Philippines.
http://geopolitics.co/about-us/

As for all the rest of it, well I am not participating in the USA election so who they choose to elect is their prerogative as that is democracy.
Not a great fan of any of them especially Obama who has been a total waste of space and frankly him getting the Nobel Prize was a joke.
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March 4, 2016 8:02pm
AgentBallSack

Max Key on Jono and Ben is amusing 😎
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March 4, 2016 8:05pm
Scott Chris

AgentBallSack (1,757 comments) says:
March 4th, 2016 at 8:02 pm
I am not much into elephant porn but…
Heres a joke:
Q. How many Catholic Priests does it take to molest a boy?
A. All of them.

Careful Ballsack sounds like Kea.
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March 4, 2016 8:09pm
starboard

Not personally ballsack..you see dodgy characters everywhere in Bangkok but I tend to keep my head down and stick to what Im doing…relaxing and , well you know.
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March 4, 2016 8:13pm
starboard

after 8 scottchris..run along or you may miss out on all that hairy ass..
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March 4, 2016 8:15pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Israel 95 average IQ is 20% Muslim (ethnically palestinian). Jordan, Lebanon, Iran averaqe IQ 82-84, which would mean that assuming that Arab Israelis are averaging IQ of 84 the mostly european heritage 80% non-arab population of Israel would need to average about 98 IQ.

Below about 70 IQ (2 standard deviation below 100 IQ western average) you are practically unemployable in a post industrial country. That means that bringing Immigrants from low IQ countries in Sub-Saharan and Sahal Africa (about 50% <70 IQ) and even Arabia (15% < 70 IQ) is a bad move economically compared to say China (2% < 70IQ). (Oops editing error) An IQ of 115 – which we would consider the level needed to do things like be a competent doctor, scientist or engineer is only .1% of Africans, 3% of Arabians, and 15% of Westerners). Without oil money to buy in brains Arabia is doomed.

Often immigrants from these less fortunate regions are themselves OK – they have made it to NZ through a process that selects for people who are much smarter than average. But then their children (via regression to mean, kids tend to be closer to average IQ than parents) wind up being useless.
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March 4, 2016 8:23pm
Maggy Wassilieff

One of the reasons Chinese kids do so well in our academic system is that their parents don’t give a stuff about IQ.
They just assume that anyone can do well by working hard.
Westerners believe that some form of inate intelligence belies school/uni success.

I taught in a streamed boy’s college. A recent Chinese immigrant was placed in our lowest level 3rd form. He didn’t show any great facility with maths ( unlike most of the other Chinese students I have taught). At his first parent-teacher meeting, his father demanded that he be given much more homework. He always completed his homework and stayed at School through to Year 13, just passing his exams. He only excelled at badminton. Last time I saw him, he was completing a degree majoring in Psychology and was waiting to hear if he had been accepted for Police College at Porirua.
Moral of the story: He had no concept that the authorities/education experts had decided he wasn’t very bright…. he just absorbed all the class lessons, worked hard and succeeded.
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March 4, 2016 8:26pm
nasska

Maggy

Parental expectations are a huge factor. Contrast the Chinese kid in your instance with a Maori or Somali with a high IQ but without a book in the house & an acceptance that a life on the DPB or the dole was normal.

You could guarantee the results five years ahead.
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March 4, 2016 8:35pm
kowtow

“If only John Wayne had been there.”

Errol Flynn was and it didn’t make any difference.
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March 4, 2016 8:35pm
Reid

Reid- since you seem to have forgotten about your fishmonger mate I referred to here he is again.

Yes but SS, a fishmonger I’ve never met before had nothing to do with the Valdai press conference.

So are you going to address it?

Or not?
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March 4, 2016 8:37pm
Harriet

Trump is no different to Sanders……attacks on the establishment……the protest vote.

Nothing good has ever come from a protest vote….as that is all it is. A protest.

Trump is the US equivalent to Penny Dim…..a loudmouth protester.

Making NZ great again. 😎
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March 4, 2016 8:37pm
All_on_Red

I get the feeling Donald pays his rates
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March 4, 2016 8:44pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Dunedin uni students seriously injured in packed balcony collapse.
Someone’s IQ was turned off
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/77570217/multiple-injuries-after-balcony-collapses-near-six60-gig-in-dunedin.html
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March 4, 2016 8:46pm
mikenmild

after 8 scottchris..run along or you may miss out on all that hairy ass…

Sounds like starboard wants to make a date.
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March 4, 2016 8:48pm
nasska

Romance is in the air! 🙂
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March 4, 2016 8:50pm
mikenmild

Red
How on earth would you get the idea that Trump ever pays what he owes?
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March 4, 2016 8:51pm
Harriet

All on Red#

Yeah but is everyone else in the US under a Trump presidency able to afford their rates?

Hardly…..just listen to what he says about the US economy……huge tariffs on imports……an international trade war!!!

Cruz fully supports the TTP……and that’s saying something when a large element of his conservative base opposes it…….under Cruz it is ‘the people first’……based upon the constitution and commonsense.

Making the US orange again……Penny should have a ‘style over’ and she would get huge support from kiwiblog! 😎
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March 4, 2016 8:52pm
All_on_Red

By reading his Tax returns , oh wait
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March 4, 2016 8:55pm
nasska

….”Penny should have a ‘style over’”….

A personality transplant might be more helpful. 🙂
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March 4, 2016 8:56pm
mikenmild

Red
Trump is very reluctant to release his tax returns. He claims he’s being audited, but there is speculation that the returns might reveal he is not as rich as he says.
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March 4, 2016 8:58pm
All_on_Red

Harriet…
All_on_Red (2,701 comments) says:
March 4th, 2016 at 3:28 pm
Actually I like Cruz and have said so many times. But realistically he won’t make it.
However I do admire trumps campaign. It’s fantastic.

46 million on food stamps, 92 million out of or stopped looking for work, all due to the Democrats.
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March 4, 2016 8:59pm
Scott Chris

All_on_Red (2,700 comments) says:
March 4th, 2016 at 8:44 pm
I get the feeling Donald pays his rates

Really?

Fucking really?

You are a believer.

Grats.
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March 4, 2016 8:59pm
mikenmild

Trump’s business model has generally been to borrow loads of money and then sue anyone who has the temerity to ask for repayments.
Channelling Bob Dylan:
“Steal a little and they throw you in jail; steal a lot and they make you king”
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March 4, 2016 9:02pm
All_on_Red

Ok, you guys seem to think I’m for him but I’m just being fair in the face of nonsense.
It’s unrealistic to release your Tax Returns if you are being audited, it’s just stupid because you damage yourself more if you have to redo them
Of course he pays his Rates. He controls $Billions in property assets and only a moron would think he would avoid his, actually,property Taxes not rates.
I also give him credit for creating the most entertaining contest in certainly my memory.
And if you are for Hillary, then fuuuuck, you have no moral standing
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March 4, 2016 9:05pm
All_on_Red

Oh prove it Mikey. The cost of money in the US is pretty much nothing. You really know nothing about business that’s for sure. Anyway the kids are in bed, Foyles War has started and the Pinot Noir is fiiine
See ya
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March 4, 2016 9:08pm
mikenmild

Sure, here’s on example:

Trump burrowed $640 million from Deutsche Bank to finance the Chicago Trump Tower and hotel. He pulled it off by personally guaranteeing $40 million, and ensuring that nobody who knew how little that meant talked to anyone at Deutsche Bank. When they asked him to pay it back he instead sued them for three billion dollars. That’s not a typo, though the bankers probably thought so when the lawsuit arrived. Instead of making a token good faith payment towards over three hundred million owed at the time, he took them to court, claiming a yearly interest of negative 1250 percent. While we don’t know lots about finance, we’re told that he might as well have claimed that he was trading Energon crystals to Skeletor.

“Banks want loan money back now? What a country!”

Trump claims that the “force majeure” clause in the loan contract — the one that protects borrowers from forces beyond anyone’s control like lightning strikes and earthquakes — should apply to the real estate market. He was claiming that the housing market crash was a literal Act of God. His argument was essentially that he should only have to pay back his loan if he made money. When Deutsche Bank noted in court that “Trump is no stranger to overdue debt,” he sued them for damaging his reputation. He publicly turned his own “personal guarantee” into a threat of ten digit legal hassle. No one has turned their word into that much pain since the Cruciatus curse. Both sides eventually dropped their cases, which pretty much sums up his business plan: successfully make things so stupid the people who are actually trying to make money would rather lose forty million dollars than continue to be involved with you.
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March 4, 2016 9:12pm
Scott Chris

<blockquoteLAll_on_Red (2,704 comments) says:
March 4th, 2016 at 9:05 pm
He controls $Billions in property assets and only a moron would think he would avoid his, actually,property Taxes not rates.
I also give him credit for cresting the most entertaining contest in certainly my memory.

Testify
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March 4, 2016 9:14pm
Scott Chris

Yeah fuck that editing shit previously, Donald Trump always pays his taxes. I was forced to say this by the courts.
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March 4, 2016 9:19pm
nasska

Just did a speed test.

.86Mbps Down, .70Mbps Up.

Rural Broadband sucks!
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March 4, 2016 9:30pm
Scott Chris

#OPENUPTHEBOOKSDONALD
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March 4, 2016 9:33pm
starboard

ya polluting the screen again grottchris..run along, menfriends is missing you
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March 4, 2016 9:36pm
Harriet

“….Rural Broadband sucks!…”

I know you’ve done some really weird shit in the past Nasska…….like hanging around public toilets with your 6 fingers….but this broad brand fetish is at a whole new level. 😎
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March 4, 2016 9:45pm
nasska

Wait until I tell you about my fetish for chopped liver & g strings Harriet. 🙂
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March 4, 2016 9:49pm
Left Right and Centre

But that wouldn’t give the pious, Godaddled arseholes who oppose assisted suicide such a smug, warm, self-righteous feeling as dropping a couple of 20 cent pieces into a collection box.

Talking of street appeals . . . street collectors are surely obsolete now, aren’t they ? Cash is declining in use – there’s the internet. People donate online. I’m picturing street collectors with PDA devices – smart tablets where people can upload small donations from smart phones. But then you can text donations as well. Do you need people on the street anymore ? I’ll give them this much; at a time when everything involves a call centre or a website or online shopping and self-checkouts – they do one thing well; being one of the last remaining points of human face-to-face contact.
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March 4, 2016 9:55pm
kowtow

Maggy

“Someone’s IQ was turned off”

If you look at the footage, even though one balcony has gone down there’s still alot of people on the other ones!
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March 4, 2016 10:02pm
Manolo

Labelling Romney: http://nypost.com/2016/03/03/romney-is-too-much-of-coward-to-really-say-whats-on-his-mind/
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