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kowtow

Good article.

“This kind of movement cannot be defeated by military means alone. The world needs to hear another voice from within Islam”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/12205979/We-are-facing-an-unprecedented-age-of-terror.html
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March 31, 2016 8:02am
kowtow

Sharp woman. Too bad she’s not running Germany and therefore EU.

“Germany’s currency and migration policies are currently destroying European solidarity, and the return to the idea of one’s own nation in all European countries is a natural corrective to Brussels centralization. We believe that a healthy patriotism should be natural in Germany. This stance includes taking responsibility for our history, but it also presupposes a healthy relationship to our identity, without which it’s impossible to act in a forward-looking manner both domestically and externally. We think it’s wrong that German politicians are exclusively wrapping themselves in the cloak of guilt.”

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/interview-with-frauke-petry-of-the-alternative-for-germany-a-1084493.html
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March 31, 2016 8:06am
Inandout

Was Material Puree really drunk on Green plonk? What a twitter twat.
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March 31, 2016 8:06am
oldpark

There it was on social media,what an indictment of the so called joint leader of the unelected Green Party.NZs Body Mass index pin up girl Materialistic Turei,potential Prime Minister, making a bigger fool of herself,if that is possible. To think that a so common riff-raff person from a party, whose claim to fame,someday they could be in partnership with the other bunch of crazies, the Liebour/Green parties,and perhaps aided and abetted by the Winston Party. Bet her bunch of losers in the Green Party,will laugh like hell, with embarrasment,when they see their dear leader. pictures and antics, plastered over the pages of the Whale Oil news site.
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March 31, 2016 8:12am
Happychappy

I wonder what Waikato tribe will be able to join the Government gravy train after human bones were discovered on the contruction of the new Waikato expressway
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March 31, 2016 8:14am
Manolo

Anything is possible: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/03/paul-ryan-convention-president-political-suicide
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March 31, 2016 8:18am
wiseowl

Kowtow
It’s a shame some are viewing our Nation as part of one world where there are no borders and along with that , patriotism is dropping away in the face of a wrongly based, multi culti ,happy, happy, fanciful society.

The evidence for that has become apparent in the last day by Obamas friend.
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March 31, 2016 8:18am
dubya

Paul Henry on Turei: “I love her, I just love her – she’s a bit nuggety, isn’t she?”

Understatement of the century.
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March 31, 2016 8:26am
EAD

One of the best descriptions of the New World Order I’ve ever read – from inception to present, how it works and how its tentacles spread into all parts of life:

http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2016/03/the-global-elite-its-structure-of-power.html?m=0

Excerpt below:

The world does not work the way we have been led to believe – by our mainstream media, by our politicians, by our corporations, by our financial institutions, by our military, by our schools. We are bombarded daily with so much misinformation, disinformation, propaganda, half-truths, and outright lies, that it takes a persistent individual to sort through the fog of information to find the truth.

In Hans Christian Andersen’s tale “The Emperor’s New Clothes”, the Emperor’s subjects applauded his ‘non-existent’ magnificent new set of clothes, because they had been conditioned to believe whatever the Emperor and his officials told them, even to the extent of denying what they saw with their own eyes. It took an innocent child to declare that the Emperor “… isn’t wearing anything at all!”

in our time we have been conditioned – by official pronouncements, mainstream media repetition and public relations campaigns – to believe that what they have seen with their own eyes, did not really happen. Lies and disinformation have replaced truth, and people have set aside their capacity to think critically, accepting explanations of events which are false, or even absurd.
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March 31, 2016 8:27am
dave_c_

Not only have the NZ Govt/Police abdicated their responsibilities to resolve burgalries (because things are too difficult), they are now softening us up to the prospect that because it is too difficult to address the drug problem (effectively admitting they have lost the plot), they will change the law to permit certain class/es of drug use !

What will be next ?
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March 31, 2016 8:27am
dave_c_

Indeed EAD !

There are many more instances of this brainwahsing and outright conspiracy to deceive – Flat earth versus the sphere argument for example!
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March 31, 2016 8:31am
Maggy Wassilieff

@Oldpark 8:12

Bet her bunch of losers in the Green Party,will laugh like hell,

Ahh!!!!! I must have digested too much chlorophyll this week. I thought the tweets and pics were pretty funny.
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March 31, 2016 8:31am
radvad

I used to think Trump was 10 years old. After the last week I am now convinced he is only 5.
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March 31, 2016 8:33am
Paulus Gnome

What ‘s next? Mobile phone use while driving followed by stopping at red lights
becoming an option.
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March 31, 2016 8:34am
stephieboy

wiseowl , are you suggesting that we return to having the film clip of the younger Queen on horse ,saluting with her anthem playing ,that once featured in our cinemas ?

You must know what Samuel Johnson thought about patriotism ?
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March 31, 2016 8:35am
Simon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4BNtP7tN8I

Ted Cruz eats a booger at debate!
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March 31, 2016 8:36am
Odakyu-sen

Here’s a thought.

In the “old days” when society was effectively mono-cultural, extra-judicial punishments were more normal (take him around the back and teach him some manners). One of the reasons this could function is that everyone knew the “social rules,” so to speak.

If you start bringing people in from other cultures, this “old days” mentality will lead to tremendous social tension, so you need to take the role of “punisher” away from the community and give it to the State. Hence the rise of “human rights” a generation ago. It’s a way for the State to tell the People, “You’re not allowed to discipline the members of your own communities any more. And the reason for this is that people now have ‘rights’ that the State will enforce from now on.”
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March 31, 2016 8:41am
EAD

Indeed dave_c,

Trump has shot his mouth off for months now and done serious damage to political correctness and the omnipotence of the Political Elite to control the narrative.

Both the ‘Right’ and “Left” are attacking him under the pretense of “Saving Democracy” by suppressing the popular discontent. The “right” by trying to deny him the nomination by calling for a brokered convention, the “left” with the Soros funded, Clinton backed thugs who try and shut him down.

The system is making a mockery of itself and its supposed values. People are witnessing this and the betrayal of the “leaders” of Western Europe as they allow their countries to be overrun against the wishes of its citizens, seeing the utter hypocrisy, and starting to realise the world of “freedom and democracy and free speech” is a lie.

What is happening around us is not “inevitable”, it is deliberate and doesn’t have to be like this is. Break the spell, and people will see the truth.
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March 31, 2016 8:41am
Lance

@Simon
Kindergarten stuff
Pathetic

Do you snicker uncontrollably at toilet jokes as well?
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March 31, 2016 8:42am
oldpark

@MW 8.31 AM.

Funny Peculiar?.
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March 31, 2016 8:45am
stephieboy

Odakyu sen ,your not blaming Sue Bradford’s anti smacking bill for our diversity dividend we are enjoying now ?
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March 31, 2016 8:45am
dave_c_

Yes EAD – The political elite (establishment), who have enjoyed decades of corrupt rule, are scared shitless that the people see them for what they are, and that their time in the sun is close to being over.
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March 31, 2016 8:49am
Odakyu-sen

stephieboy ,

I’m suggesting that the concept of “human rights” is a useful tool for governments to use to prevent communities from self-discipline.

The State says: “You can’t do that to him; he has ‘rights.'”
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March 31, 2016 8:51am
Inandout

stephieboy 8.35:
‘You must know what Samuel Johnson thought about patriotism ?’

Yes, but what is more relevant is what Johnson would have thought about Islam, and particularly yourself. Perhaps:

‘My dear friend, clear your mind of cant’. Samuel Johnson

And to save you searching for the meaning of ‘cant’, it isn’t can’t without an apostrophe. It means ‘hypocritical and sanctimonious talk, typically of a moral, religious, or political nature’.
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March 31, 2016 8:53am
Andrei

For a change of pace what grade of petrol do Kiwibloggers use?

98

95

91

Diesel

I use 98 when I can and 95 when filling where it is not available – 98 works better in my car

Whats your experience – I’m curious
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March 31, 2016 8:53am
waikatogirl

Inandout
Was Material Puree really drunk on Green plonk? What a twitter twat.
***

Didn’t the Greens say the public couldn’t be trusted with alcohol so were against opening pubs for the rugby world cup.

Material Turei : Hypocrite.
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March 31, 2016 8:53am
UglyTruth

“This kind of movement cannot be defeated by military means alone. The world needs to hear another voice from within Islam”

One of the problems that the Quran speaks of is called “the traditions of the fathers”, social behaviours with no connection to reason. There are Islamic groups that recognize this and focus on the Quran rather than the Hadith and Sunnah. There is also a drive to find commonality with other religions.

“Christians are being persecuted in some 50 countries, but the real target is freedom.”

The problem with freedom is that it provides a niche for anarchy. Liberty addresses this problem by recognizing that there should be limits on behaviour.
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March 31, 2016 8:56am
Captain Mainwaring

Simple Simon met a pieman going to the fair.
Said the pieman to Simple Simon:

“I think your nappy needs changing.”
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March 31, 2016 8:58am
Odakyu-sen

Let’s be clear here. I’m not arguing for or against the notion of “human rights.”

What I am interested in discussing how the State can use this notion as a mechanism for societal control, especially to pacify communities that have been tensioned through the introduction of people from an alien culture.
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March 31, 2016 8:58am
Nookin

Waikatogirl

I think it is different when they do it.
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March 31, 2016 9:00am
James Stephenson

they are now softening us up to the prospect that because it is too difficult to address the drug problem (effectively admitting they have lost the plot), they will change the law to permit certain class/es of drug use !

Drug use is a health problem and it’s about time the cops and politicians caught up with that reality.
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March 31, 2016 9:00am
dubya

Waikatogirl:

Cider also has a high level of sugar. What would Sue Kedgely say?!
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March 31, 2016 9:02am
Odakyu-sen

Anarchy = freedom without external or internal control
Liberty = freedom, but with internal control

Is there a name for freedom with external control but no internal control? (Or do we call that “childhood”?)
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March 31, 2016 9:02am
kowtow

This is a debate that’s badly needed. And if Obummer says it ain’t then it damned well is .Always has been.

“Obama said that Republican rhetoric had raised fears among Americans that they were in a “civilizational conflict” against the religion of Islam. He also dismissed the notion that America was in danger of being “destroyed internally by this foreign civilization.”

He’s the most unAmerican President the USA has ever had.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/30/obama-fight-against-islamic-terrorism-not-a-civilizational-conflict/
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March 31, 2016 9:03am
stephieboy

Odakyu-sen, which .”.. communities that have been tensioned ” through the introduction of people from an alien culture ? Some who post here ?
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March 31, 2016 9:05am
dime

““This kind of movement cannot be defeated by military means alone. The world needs to hear another voice from within Islam””

bullshit.

it cant be defeated by what the west has the stomach for though.
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March 31, 2016 9:06am
mikenmild

I don’t think Ted Cruz eats snot. I’m still to be convinced that he is not the Zodiac Killer, however.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/is-ted-cruz-the-zodiac-killer-maybe-say-38-percent-of-florida-voters-20160226
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March 31, 2016 9:07am
UglyTruth

Lies and disinformation have replaced truth, and people have set aside their capacity to think critically, accepting explanations of events which are false, or even absurd.

In “The Passion of the Western Mind” Richard Tarnas writes that people have a hardwired program for accepting the existence of a higher power. In a secular society this program looks to the state rather than to deity, leading to faith in government.
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March 31, 2016 9:07am
cmm

@kowtow:

“This kind of movement cannot be defeated by military means alone. The world needs to hear another voice from within Islam”

All good in theory, but how do you get “another voice” to arise within Islam?

1) A Muslim tries to be moderate and reach out to Christians during Easter and gets killed for it.
2) Anyone trying to leave – walk away from the madness – is guilty of apostasy and condemned to death.

Muslims are keen on “multi-culturalism” or “religion outreach” when they are in the minority and other people are diluting themselves and their culture/religion to the benefit of the Muslim position but are unwilling to do this themselves.

This is no different to the interaction between black and white in USA, or Maori and whites in NZ.

If a black person votes for Obama because he’s black, that’s fine: it is black pride. If a white person votes for ??? because he’s white, that’s racist.

It is a one way street and you are expecting it to change into a two-way street. It won’t happen until whites grow a spine and demand value out of their interactions.
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March 31, 2016 9:12am
RalphT

Dubya, cider is a double no-no. Not only are apples laden with sugar but cider contains the dreaded alcohol!
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March 31, 2016 9:13am
Tauhei Notts

I have not seen any reason for it, but the betting markets reveal over the past three days some degree of interest for Cruz, Kasich and Ryan for the Republican nomination. Trump is still the hot favourite, but not as red hot as he was three days ago.
Let’s give it a week and see what happens.
Hillary remains the $1.48 favourite for the presidency. Her red hot favouritism in the betting markets is virtually unchanged over the past 15 days.
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March 31, 2016 9:13am
calendar girl

“Drug use is a health problem …..”

That’s a fair comment, but it’s only part of the matter. Drug use also involves people knowingly abusing their own bodies to a point where they become addicted. It’s too easy to gloss over the role of personal responsibility.
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March 31, 2016 9:13am
UglyTruth

Is there a name for freedom with external control but no internal control?

karma?
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March 31, 2016 9:14am
stephieboy

kowtow, how can 300 million be destroyed by 3 million ? ” Obummer” has never spoken a truer word . The fight is against Terrorist who happen to fanatical Muslims not Islam itself

How does e.g Trump , Cruz and your kind propose to wage battle against a religion of 1.6 billion people ? Shout and scream at random strangers like in Croydon ?
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March 31, 2016 9:14am
Kimbo

@ kowtow

“This kind of movement cannot be defeated by military means alone. The world needs to hear another voice from within Islam”

Hmm. It could well be a bit like the reporting of the “Maori” perspective, where mainstream media go running to or after the extremists and headline hunters, but give no time to investigating in depth of perspectives and voices, complexity or nuance. So I think you will find there are lots of voices within Islam wrestling with the issues of living a corporate 7th Century theocratic faith/lifestyle in individualised secular Western nations. Indeed as they are confronted by it every day there are no doubt lots of (moderate) voices.

However, I think Muslim spokespeople in the West, including imams do themselves and their people a grave disservice when they

1. jump on the “tolerance for minorities” bandwagon as pushed by the radical left-wing. Classical Reformation and Enlightenment cultural, intellectual and constitutional reforms are the best basis for a proper balancing of rights and responsibilities for minorities in our nation, not the preachings of neo-Marxist discontent merchants. If someone draws a cartoon of Muhammad, then part of the price you pay to belong to this society is upholding the right of others to hold and express contrary opinions, and then put them into action no matter how offensive they may be. Don’t entertain the hand-wringers supposedly rushing to save you from unpleasant feelings. They are not your friends, they are using you, and they are hindering your efforts to integrate. When the likes of Charlie Hedbo is attacked…Muslims are not the victims.

2. Drop the line that Islam means “peace”. Yes, the greeting “salaam” does, and it is an expression of cosmic and social “wholeness” and “well-being” in keeping with the Hebrew ‘shalom’, and the Biblical apocalyptic doctrine of hope. But “Islam” really means “submission”, so be honest about it (and to be fair, when given the opportunity most Muslims are up front about that). But no more “no true Scotsman/jihadists who fly planes into buildings are not Muslims”. They certainly think they are! Same goes for Jews and Christians!

3. Not Investing time in your kids! You came here for a better life, so get a job, work hard, teach values of thrift, education, responsibility, and neighbourliness to all…not fatalistic and responsibility-denying inshallah! A bit of critical thinking wouldn’t go astray either! Just like drug-dealers, jihadists and extremists are trawling around trying to pick off stragglers with their sophisticated grooming techniques, and kids like yours would make useful cannon fodder. So teach them rather than just having them just rote reciting the Arabic of the Koran like it will magically inoculate them.
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March 31, 2016 9:17am
Griff

Drug use is a health problem and it’s about time the cops and politicians caught up with that reality.

I think the cops have pretty much twigged to this
It is the politicians and the conservative faction among the voting public that is holding us back.

New Zealand Police Association President Greg O’Connor
What are your views about shifting to a more health-focused drug law?
https://www.drugfoundation.org.nz/matters-of-substance/february-2016/Q-and-A-greg-oconnor
In my opinion, all the focus on drug and alcohol policy should be about health, both of the individual and society. We should balance the damage that is likely from the inevitable short-term increase in the amount of drug use from legalisation of drugs against the damage done to society by the same drugs being illegal and supply and quality being left in the hands of unregulated criminals. Mexico is a very good example where the damage of the illegal drug trade is turning Mexico into a narco state. The crime damage would appear to vastly outweigh any likely damage to individuals from legalising drugs.
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March 31, 2016 9:23am
stephieboy

Ugly Truth,

“in a secular society this program looks to the state rather than to deity, leading to faith in government.”

Untrue ! People make up their own minds about whether to believe in a deity and especially without religionists telling them what to believe. , Having a good education that encourages critical thinking and a decent standard of living is a great help also .
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March 31, 2016 9:24am
Huevon

Labour has announced they want to import 1,500 potential jihadists every year (true number would be much higher due to family reunion policy). The media pressure on the PM will become relentless. I expect him to cave just like he has on other socially destructive policies pushed by the left (smacking, homo marriage).
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March 31, 2016 9:30am
UglyTruth

Classical Reformation and Enlightenment cultural, intellectual and constitutional reforms are the best basis …

If you accept humanism as being benign or beneficial, which it isn’t.
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March 31, 2016 9:33am
mikenmild

Huevon
Everyone in the world is a ‘potential jihadist’. Just like everyone is a potential vegetarian or a potential lawn bowler.
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March 31, 2016 9:34am
UglyTruth

Untrue

I can see why Reid thinks you are a liar, stephieboy. Your critique entirely missed the point of what I wrote.
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March 31, 2016 9:35am
Manolo

By hook or by crook: http://news.sky.com/story/1669116/decc-urged-energy-firms-to-echo-brexit-alarm

The Energy Secretary has risked igniting a fresh Brexit row after it emerged that her department had urged electricity suppliers to echo her warning that leaving the European Union could cost consumers £500m a year.
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March 31, 2016 9:36am
UglyTruth

Everyone in the world is a ‘potential jihadist’.

Bollocks. The west speaks of jihad as if it means radical or reactionary, which it doesn’t.
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March 31, 2016 9:38am
stephieboy

Ugly Truth, isn’t it really simple . As I posted above people make up their own minds and decisions about whether they accept the precepts of either religion or humanism without others telling them to do either. That is I believe the real feature off this modern age

Education and a decent standard of living can be a great help in that regard too .
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March 31, 2016 9:41am
Liberty

“she’s a bit nuggety, isn’t she?”
A Coalition of losers future Minister of silly walks.
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March 31, 2016 9:41am
Huevon

@mikenmild

Let’s hope your leftist snark consoles the innocent victims when the bombs go off at Eden Park, or Auckland airport, or where ever the religion of peace decides to spread the dar al-Islam.
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March 31, 2016 9:41am
kowtow

New Zealand Police Association President Greg O’Connor

Greg O’connor is a fucking idiot. Mexico has been turned into a narco state by drugs. No drugs , no gangs. It wasn’t a narco state 50 years ago. Drugs destroy everything and everyone they come into contact with. Why legalise such a dangerous commodity.

He should stick to trade union issues not govt policy.
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March 31, 2016 9:47am
dime

“The total Muslim population in Sweden is estimated at 4.4% (2013 figures). Out of that 4.4% and in deducting the women and children, we can roughly guesstimate that around 2% are male. The foreign rape figures at 77.6% Muslim has been anonymously confirmed by Swedish polish in a phone conversation. The actual figure could be higher. These percentages do not include Muslims with Swedish citizenship contained within rapes in the figures categorized under “Swedish nationals”.”

I feel sorry for the girls who will be raped by the syrian refugees. the tragedy is we could have said – fuck off, you aint coming here.
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March 31, 2016 9:47am
stephieboy

According to this Conservative website / blog

Gallup: Trump Highest Unfavorable Rating Ever Recorded –

A Gallup poll found that Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump is the most unpopular candidate of either major U.S. political party when the entire American population is taken into account.
Take a look at the numbers:
……

– See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/trump-has-highest-unfavorability-ever-recorded#sthash.YJ7XokXp.dpuf

Hmmm… !
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March 31, 2016 9:52am
mikenmild

kowtow
The War on Drugs has been a complete failure.
Although this has been known for a long time, the recent Lancet-Johns Hopkins reports confirms the huge material and human cost of prohibiting (some) drugs.
O’Connor and the Drug Foundation are right: drug use should be considered primarily as a health issue.
Many rational people would go further: the state has no role in prohibiting what substances adults choose to ingest. Regulating all psychoactive substances in the manner of tobacco or alcohol would dramatically reduce harm and cripple the gangs that thrive on the trade in illegal substances.
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March 31, 2016 9:55am
Albert_Ross

I know I’ve said it before but crave your indulgence, for I feel an overpowering need to say it again.

Rosemary McLeod is an utterly, utterly stupid woman.

Thank you, I do feel better for that.
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March 31, 2016 9:57am
Manolo

@dime: How long before our “lovely and peaceful” male Muslim refugees start harassing local girls?
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March 31, 2016 9:59am
Kimbo

@ Albert_Ross

Rosemary McLeod is an utterly, utterly stupid woman.

Care to give us some context or a link? But more to the point, is she as amusingly unhinged in her judgements as the recently-decamped NZ Herald “business columnist” (I fuck you not!), Dita De Boni?
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March 31, 2016 10:03am
stephieboy

dime, it would be helpful if you would source your quote and provide a link. My one contradicts you which shows, among many things, that Sweden has the same incidence of rape as NZ according to International statistics .

Something is not quite right there .

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/36d3z8/is_sweden_now_the_rape_capital_of_the_world_no/
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March 31, 2016 10:07am
Biscuit

Be afraid, people, be very afraid…

We have already had one Metiria Leanne Agnes Stanton Turei ‘treating’ us to her drunken, maybe doped-up, antics…

How long can it be before Penny Bright, that proven and experienced ‘anti-corruption’ and ‘anti-privatisation Public Watchdog’, jumps on the same ‘Look at me! I’m relevant! Really!’ bandwagon and marches up and down Queen Street, loaded to the gills with cheap gin, selfie-stick attached to her trusty megaphone, and taking selfies of herself with startled passers-by?
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March 31, 2016 10:07am
Manolo

JK has been talking to DPF. 🙂
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/key-to-us-you-cant-build-a-wall/ar-BBr7WIl?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=mailsignoutmd

Prime Minister John Key has taken a swipe at Republican presidential front runner Donald Trump, saying America cannot build a wall across its borders.
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March 31, 2016 10:09am
stephieboy

Albert Ross

“Rosemary McLeod is an utterly, utterly stupid woman.”

For saying or doing what exactly ?
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March 31, 2016 10:09am
Hugh Pavletich

HOUSTON CULTURE … FROM GOVERNING MAGAZINE … VIA TORY GATTIS AT HOUSTON STRATEGIES

… HOUSTON CULTURE … FROM GOVERNING MAGAZINE … VIA TORY GATTIS AT HOUSTON STRATEGIES …

… Economic benefits of Houspitality, we’re doing better than you think with traffic, #1 growth, and more … read more via hyperlink below …

http://houstonstrategies.blogspot.co.nz/

Be Nice, It May Help Your City’s Economy … Scott Beyer … Governing

http://www.governing.com/columns/urban-notebook/gov-economy-friendly-cities.html

… extract …

… Rather than fast-paced and impersonal, Houston has a friendly, small-town feel that is surprising for America’s fourth largest city. People hold doors, provide in-depth directions and smile at you on the street. Even in denser interior neighborhoods, it is common to greet passersby.

This contrasts with other U.S. cities, where strangers avoid eye contact. In some cities, such as New York, this coldness can seem like rudeness, marked by aggressive drivers, open profanity and subway riders who hog bench space.
…
In “unfriendly” cities — Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, New York, Philadelphia and San Francisco — street-level curtness has permeated the sociopolitical climate. Construction projects are viewed as neighborhood takeovers instead of much-needed new housing. It’s easier to find examples of corruption, and narrow self-interests seemingly hold more power, suggesting a lack of social cohesion. As a result, residents face high taxes, expensive housing and barriers to entrepreneurship. … read more via hyperlink above …

… It struck me the same way when I visited Houston in 2009 to study housing …

Leaky Homes And An Architect’s Musing’s | Scoop News New Zealand ( Interest Co NZ Damaged Archival System … Opinion: Houston, we have a (housing affordability) problem | interest.co.nz )

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1003/S00799/leaky-homes-and-an-architects-musings.htm

… Catherine Harris of Fairfax NZ visited Houston just prior to Christchurch …. Here is her recent Sunday Star Times report …

The missing piece of the Auckland housing puzzle | Catherine Harris | Fairfax New Zealand

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/77529177/the-missing-piece-of-the-auckland-housing-puzzle

GREATER HOUSTON PARTNERSHIP … INFOGRAPHIC

http://www.houston.org/pdf/research/quickview/Most_Current_Talking_Points.pdf
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March 31, 2016 10:10am
stephieboy

Manolo,

“How long before our “lovely and peaceful” male Muslim refugees start harassing local girls?”

I fancy you will be waiting a long, long , long time ! But by all means begin your clandestine monitoring and vigil up here in Mt Roskill .
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March 31, 2016 10:12am
UglyTruth

How long before our “lovely and peaceful” male Muslim refugees start harassing local girls?

And live with [women] in kindness.
Quran, Surah 4:19

How long before Manolo stops asking his stupid bigoted questions?
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March 31, 2016 10:14am
Hugh Pavletich

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-30/meanwhile-san-francisco-400month-live-box-someones-living-room

We’ve spent quite a lot of time documenting the inexorable rise in housing prices across some of the world’s red hot markets.

Take Vancouver, for instance, where according to National Bank, one third of all homes sold in 2015 went to Chinese buyers whose voracious demand has driven prices into the stratosphere in both British Columbia and Ontario. Here’s what $2.5 million will get you in Point Grey: … read more via hyperlink above …

http://globalnews.ca/news/2605407/san-francisco-man-moves-into-a-box-to-avoid-sky-high-housing-costs/

http://www.thesundaily.my/node/357775
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March 31, 2016 10:16am
wiseowl

Simple Stephie met a pie man
Going to the fair
Said simple Stephie to the pie man
What do you have there?

Because Stephie always asks questions.
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March 31, 2016 10:18am
Inandout

‘You can’t build a wall’. JK should breathe through his nose and keep out of other country’s affairs, especially in the US election year. Unless of course Key knows absolutely that Trump will not have the last laugh and become President.

Trump, if he is even aware of Key’s retort, may well reply, ‘You can’t change a flag’.
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March 31, 2016 10:24am
Manolo

The dreadful UN is at it (again): http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35914839

The Falkland Islands have asked the UK to clarify the meaning of an international commission judgement that would leave the islands surrounded by Argentina’s territorial waters.

The decision, which is not yet final, follows a request by Argentina in 2009 to expand its maritime territory to include that of the islands, known as the Malvinas in Argentina.
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March 31, 2016 10:25am
Tauhei Notts

Stephieboy at 10.09.
If I had a spare seven hours I could completely and absolutely answer your question to Albert Ross re Rosemary McLeod.
But you are the sort of person who would ask a pieman, “what do you have there?”
Accordingly I have better things to do with my time.
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March 31, 2016 10:28am
kowtow

“@dime: How long before our “lovely and peaceful” male Muslim refugees start harassing local girls?”

Already on.

“A Middle Eastern refugee who grabbed, groped and licked female joggers on a popular running route in Christchurch has today avoided jail and been granted permanent name suppression.

“Cultural ambiguities”, highlighted in a psychologist’s report before the courts, may have led to the man’s bizarre actions, Judge Farish believed.”

Cultural ambiguities……….bwahahahahahhaha.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11186746
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March 31, 2016 10:42am
holysheet

wiseowl (2,037 comments) says:
March 31st, 2016 at 10:18 am

Simple Stephie met a pie man
Going to the fair
Said simple Stephie to the pie man
What do you have there?

Because Stephie is too dumb to work out that a pie man might actually sell pies.
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March 31, 2016 10:43am
wiseowl

It is bizarre that we have a National Government that gets on with the Socialist US President that has made comments about Communism that maybe tell us where he really sits and further, a PM who comments negatively on a common sense conservative who is sending a message to the establishment that is going over their heads and turning them inside out.

Such fun times.
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March 31, 2016 10:43am
pentwig

stephieboy (10,751 comments) says:
March 31st, 2016 at 9:05 am
Odakyu-sen, which .”.. communities that have been tensioned ” through the introduction of people from an alien culture ? Some who post here ?

You have just described yourself perfectly daffy. Well said.

You actually don’t create tension here though. We all realise you are a total nutbar and take pity on you.
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March 31, 2016 10:43am
kowtow

“Regulating all psychoactive substances in the manner of tobacco or alcohol would dramatically reduce harm and cripple the gangs that thrive on the trade in illegal substances.”

hahahahahaahha

Regulating alcohol? Well the wowser brigade has told us that’s been a massive success!And the same wowsers want a tobacco free Aotearoa by 2025.

Why not aspire to a drug free New Zealand instead of surrendering to a destructive future .

Cannabis and other ‘regulated ” narcotics will never be sold by the gangs to minors? Hahahahahahahaha.
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March 31, 2016 10:50am
mikenmild

kowtow
DPF has made quite a few posts pointing out reducing harm from alcohol since the mid-1990s. You could certainly make a case that our regulation of alcohol is successful.
The ‘destructive future’ is a product of your fearful imagination.
You think that gangs don’t already sell cannabis to minors? Legalisation and regulation would reduce this supply.
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March 31, 2016 10:57am
Scott

Kowtow at 10:42 AM – good to see Muslim refugees fitting in so well. A bit of groping is what we have come to expect, no doubt when more Muslims come we will see them get involved in even more culturally appropriate activities.

However for for those that are concerned about Muslim refugees sex offending in New Zealand I’m sure that stephieboy will be here shortly to clear the matter up 🙂
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March 31, 2016 11:02am
iera soesto

Speaking about the tweets, Barry said, “I loved it, good on you! That’s my kind of tweeting.
“She’s fun – she had a low-alcohol cider – or five – and had a bit of fun.”

Henry agreed, adding: “I love her, I just love her – she’s a bit nuggety, isn’t she?”

I understand “nuggety” means –
having the qualities of a McDonalds chicken nugget, or
the satisfying experience of eating such a culinary delight.

Metiria, if this is what low alcohol cider does for you, be extremely careful drinking any of the hard stuff.
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March 31, 2016 11:09am
Griff

Why not aspire to a drug free ‘hic’ New Zealand ‘hic’ instead of surrendering to a ‘hic’ destructive future .
Because you would scream like a raped moggy if we took away your drug kowtow.

Kowtows mind trick
Alcohol is not a drug because it is my drug of choice .
The wowser brigade includes you kowtow as you sit there emitting alcohol fumes moaning about other people using a proven less destructive drug.
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March 31, 2016 11:14am
alloytoo

Watched Metiria Turei in question time yesterday. Embarrassing.

Commencing with a question in broken Maori, Metiria appeared somewhat confused by Bill English’s ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ (mostly no) answers, especially since the ‘No’ answers rendered her supplementary questions redundant (didn’t stop her from asking them though.)

David Seymour was onto it though, interjecting with a supplementary question which extracted both a wry smile from English and a more comprehensive answer which served to undermine Metiria even more.

If only National could get their back benchers to ask supplementary questions like Seymour.

I do approve of English’s ‘Yes/No” style of answer to Metiria though, she remains as confused as ever but Bill gets to save some breath.
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March 31, 2016 11:22am
holysheet

These numptys on the left think it’s okay to consume low alochol drinks because of the name “Low Alcohol”
How many “Low Alcohol” drinks does one have to consume before its the same level as “ordinary Alcohol”
If material got pissed consuming “Low Alcohol”, given her body mass is off the scale, one can assume she had gallons of the stuff.

Back in the day at a “The Who” concert at Wembly stadium, I and friends consumed cider by the barrel. In the heat of the afternoon this was soon manifest in a few very pissed kiwis, who struggled to leave the stadium and get to the tube and home.
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March 31, 2016 11:23am
dime

Griff – you’re not the best advertisement for legalising pot.
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March 31, 2016 11:36am
starboard

“Rosemary McLeod is an utterly, utterly stupid woman.”

I thought it was a man..man, Ross McLeod
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March 31, 2016 12:20pm
starboard

griff…downticking since ….time began
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March 31, 2016 12:30pm
starboard

The wowser brigade includes you griff as you sit there emitting marijuana fumes moaning about other people using a proven less destructive tipple..
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March 31, 2016 12:33pm
kowtow

Kowtows mind trick

I’d quite happily sit around the table ,with a roast, and every member of the family from 12 years up ,having a glass of wine (if they so chose)……..is there any parent here who could say the same of a joint?
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March 31, 2016 12:58pm
mikenmild

I don’t allow smoking at the dinner table, kowtow, and 12 is too young, but I have no objection to adults consuming the substance of their choice where it doesn’t affect (your moral outrage excluded) anyone else.
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March 31, 2016 1:02pm
stephieboy

wiseowl (2,038 comments) says:
March 31st, 2016 at 10:18 am

“Because Stephie always asks questions.”

Questions that require answers that are never provided because there are most usually none !
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March 31, 2016 1:03pm
Paulus

Medicinal use of Cannabis for mild pain relief – am not sure yet …..but am listening.

We already use Heroin in the form of Morphine for pain relief, and it has been used for many many years.
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March 31, 2016 1:13pm
dime

“but I have no objection to adults consuming the substance of their choice where it doesn’t affect (your moral outrage excluded) anyone else.”

if only you had a libertarian outlook when it comes to taxation and the size of the state 🙂
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March 31, 2016 1:17pm
Manolo

The gods are against old Bernie:
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Bernie-Sanders-Faces-Ballot-Trouble-in-DC-After-Registration-Snafu-374042381.html

Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders’ name is not on the primary ballot in Washington, D.C., after the D.C. Democratic Party submitted registration paperwork a day late and a voter filed a challenge>
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March 31, 2016 1:20pm
Albert_Ross

A couple of people have asked for reasons behind my outburst of rage and contempt for Rosemary McLeod this morning.

In fairness I should acknowledge that I don’t have to read her column and really ought to know better than to do so, for I know perfectly well that nothing will be achieved but to ruin my own day.

Since you ask, however, today’s gripe is in response to today’s column …

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/columnists/78347709/rosemary-mcleod-better-uses-for-gareth-morgans-money-than-war-on-moggies

… in which she appears to argue that because no attempt is being made to prevent dogs from ripping people’s faces off or killing kiwis (the birds), and nothing is being done about rats, mice, stoats or possums, therefore neither should anything be done to reduce the slaughter of rare indigenous birdlife by domestic or feral cats.

Only a profoundly ignorant person who had made no effort at all to ascertain one single fact could set out such a case, only a profoundly stupid person would publicly advertise such ignorance, and only an utterly unprincipled one would be willing to accept payment for doing so.
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March 31, 2016 1:20pm
Griff

Asa always conservatives just make up shit .
Kowtow would happily make his children drunks .

Age of First Alcohol Use

Statistics have shown that those who start to drink alcohol at a younger age are more likely to become dependent later on. About 33% of the population tasted their first alcohol between the ages of 15 and 17, while 18% experienced it prior to this. As for alcohol abuse or dependence, the numbers start off high with those who first drank before they were 12 and then drop off after that. For example, 16% of alcoholics began drinking prior to turning 12 years old, while only 9% first touched alcohol between 15 and 17. This percentage is even lower, at 2.6%, for those who first started the habit after they were 21. These statistics clearly show that introducing a person to alcohol at a very young age can put them at severe risk of dependence or abuse later on in life.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/news/20140923/younger-age-at-first-drink-higher-odds-for-problem-drinking-study
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March 31, 2016 2:37pm
dime

FFS griff. the only thing more boring than a global warming fanatic is the pot smoker obsessed with telling everyone how bad alcohol is.
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March 31, 2016 2:56pm
mikenmild

dime

if only you had a libertarian outlook when it comes to taxation and the size of the state

“Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others.’ – Groucho Marx
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