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igm

The religion of filth has now started murdering women and children because they are Christians. Where will it end?
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March 28, 2016 8:02am
kowtow

Muslims murder Christians .Where will it end?

You’re nicked mate.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/26/charges-dropped-against-man-who-confronted-muslim-woman-croydon
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March 28, 2016 8:08am
B.L.Zeebub

Criminals are a protected species in Australia just like here,http,find yourself in a situation where you end up defending your family and yourself in your own house and you`ll possibly face a murder or an assault charge.
The law is a stinking pile of pigshit .
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11612672
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March 28, 2016 8:12am
Left Right and Centre

Right – there’s a new Governor-General . . .

He also said it was time for a woman to be Governor-General.

Hmmm – sounds like the typical kind of gender quota crap you’d expect to hear from some PC licking left-wing party powder puffs.

“New Zealand is well regarded for gender equality, having been the first country to give women the vote. Dame Patsy’s appointment sends a strong message about New Zealand valuing women in leadership roles,” Key said.

*Gasp* – Quelle Horreur !! Selecting in any way based on gender / race / age / height. I don’t know about strong message. The strong pungent shrieking reek of PC bullshit perhaps – hahaha
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March 28, 2016 8:14am
igm

BLZ: Burglar probably a Kiwi, so now Little and Davis will go apeshit, that being their style. The occupants should be given a medal, not charged.
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March 28, 2016 8:16am
Manolo

The daily gift of love from Islam: http://news.trust.org/item/20160327150234-v8xig

A suicide bomber killed at least 65 people, mostly women and children, at a park in Lahore on Sunday in an attack claimed by a Pakistani Taliban faction which said it had targeted Christians.
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March 28, 2016 8:20am
Happychappy

Labour talk about dirty politics,freedom of speech and a even platform for all NZers but when it comes to votes they will go out of their way to try and top the balance in Labours favour.We have had the mad hatter Andrew Little and his criminal hugging colleague go in to bat for the scum being deported from Australia and now we have Jacinda Adern advocating the lowering of the voting age to Seventeen year olds and educating them in school so help them understand politics,this would be fine if you did not have unions running our schools and teachers and professors in this country that have a biased leaning to the left in their political views.So NZ should be very worried if Labour ever get the chance to implement this policy as it only benefits the people that want to set ule to benefit themselves.
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March 28, 2016 8:30am
Manolo

Almost unthinkable:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-sharpens-attacks-for-ny-showdown-that-may-dash-clintons-unity-hopes/2016/03/26/79d69b7a-f297-11e5-85a6-2132cf446d0a_story.html

The Empire State’s April 19 primary looms as potentially determinative: A win by Clinton, who is favored, would further narrow Sanders’s path, while a loss in the state she represented as a senator would embarrass her and hand Sanders a rationale to continue campaigning until the final votes are cast in June.
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March 28, 2016 8:36am
stephieboy

Looks as though the scandal is beginning to settle in and like Monica Lewinsky will be around for awhile ,

Roger Stone on Cruz Sex Scandal: Ted Cruz Won’t Sue “Because the Allegations Are Largely True”

But these rumors did not start with Donald Trump.

And the rumors did not start with Roger Stone.

** The rumors were started by the Rubio Campaign and anti-Trump GOP elites.

Today Roger Stone told AM 970 radio on Sunday that Ted Cruz won’t sue because the allegations are largely true.”

Roger Stone: Again, why won’t he sue. It won’t cost him anything, he’s a lawyer himself… To be absolutely clear, Ted Cruz won’t sue because the allegations are largely true. That’s why he won’t sue.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/roger-stone-cruz-sex-scandal-ted-cruz-wont-sue-allegations-largely-true/
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March 28, 2016 8:37am
Odakyu-sen

Manolo

“…in an attack claimed by a Pakistani Taliban faction which said it had targeted Christians.”

Some journalist should really ought to ask the faction leader the question (which no Western journalist ever dare ask nor any media public nor any politician utter)…

“Why did you do it?”
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March 28, 2016 8:40am
starboard

We know, dont we…

http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/78300960/taranaki-police-looking-for-alleged-highway-thieves
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March 28, 2016 8:54am
Captain Mainwaring

Yes Starboard, they are special people, as pointed out yesterday.
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March 28, 2016 8:58am
igm

starboard: Police possibly too busy snooping around pubs looking for a slightly over the limit driver or someone doing 3 K’s above the speed limit. Would like to know why bureaucrats have now taken control of a once proud and reliable department such as police! Interesting to read a book “Confessions From The Front Line”, by an ex inspector who was head of AOS with years of policing experience.
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March 28, 2016 9:00am
publicwatchdog

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It ain’t over till it’s over …..

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/26/sanders-wins-washington-alaska-caucus-election-results-delegates-clinton

Bernie Sanders crushes Hillary Clinton in Alaska, Washington and Hawaii

Penny Bright
2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate

(The female ‘Bernie Sanders’ of the 2016 Auckland Mayoralty campaign 😉
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March 28, 2016 9:00am
starboard

” whoop whoop..fruit loop alert @ 0900″
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March 28, 2016 9:02am
JMS

The female ‘Bernie Sanders’ of the 2016 Auckland Mayoralty campaign

Don’t agree with Bernie much, but he is honest and he is sane.

You aimed way too high there Penny.
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March 28, 2016 9:04am
Paulus Gnome

Gnome; happily downticking since 2016

Pleased to do so once again ( waits for retaliatory downtick)
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March 28, 2016 9:05am
starboard

My younger brother was a PC. My ex brother in law was a district commander for 20 plus years . They will tell you stories about the Police that would make your hair curl and your jaw drop. When the Police tell you its not about revenue collecting, they are telling fat ones. From the horses mouth.
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March 28, 2016 9:07am
Manolo

I was not aware Bernie Sanders had received generous donations from a certain German crook, the infamous KDC.
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March 28, 2016 9:11am
peterwn

BLZ – it may be standard police and prosecution practice in NSW to lay a murder charge regardless of whether there is a potential ‘self defence’ defence. That the ‘accused’ got bail would signal that the police and court considered that ‘self defence’ may succeed. [Correction – got bail initially but bail refused when upgraded to murder] Interesting too that the other occupier was not charged as an accessory to the murder. Unfortunately for them, the police were able to quiz the two individually before they could compare notes. Wondered what they told the cops. It is easy to stuff up a ‘self defence’ argument by accidentally saying the wrong things to the cops. I think the guy will get off, possibly without the hassle of a trial when the prosecution service does a full review of the file.

Anyone in such a situation should blurt out preferably when the police camera is running that he feared for his life, then clam up until he can get a lawyer.
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March 28, 2016 9:11am
stephieboy

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Odakyu sen , most western or MSM journalists understand better than you or your cronies here that it’s an extreme faction calling themselves The Taliban that are targeting Christians .Not Islam .Fact !

We don’t say eithe Protestant or Catholic Christians were resonsible for the various atrocities and murders committed during the Truobles in Northern Ireland now do we ?

Therefore please try not to be discriminatory and selective in advancing your pet hates and prejudices .
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March 28, 2016 9:12am
Paulus Gnome

Quelle surprise! 🙂
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March 28, 2016 9:12am
starboard

finger stuck on the down ticker again stiffybot ?
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March 28, 2016 9:16am
Captain Mainwaring

“Penny Bright crushes Phil Goff and Victoria Crone in Auckland Mayoralty race.”

Whoops, just woke up from a nightmare.
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March 28, 2016 9:19am
fernglas

If Penny were honest with herself, she would see that she has more in common with Trump than Sanders. Unwillingness to recognise the validity of competing viewpoints, narcissism, intellectual dishonesty and lack of a coherent moral code all speak to the former. At least Trump has the decency to pitch himself as right-wing fascist rather than trying to slither under the umbrella of social justice.
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March 28, 2016 9:20am
Jack5

One of the Stephiepeople posted at 9.12:

We don’t say eithe Protestant or Catholic Christians were resonsible for the various atrocities and murders committed during the Truobles in Northern Ireland now do we ?

No-one suggested that religion was the reason for the Troubles in Northern Ireland?

What bullshit. Don’t they have newspapers in Stephiestan?
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March 28, 2016 9:21am
stephieboy

Penny bright , do inform us about the throngs you’ve been and will be attracting to your current and future rallies ?

5, 7 , 10 .. . .?

Are the rumours true that Krim.com has approached you with his beggar bowl and asked to be your principal advisor and consultant for your campaign ?
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March 28, 2016 9:23am
RF

starboard. 8.54M.

That scenario is repeated every day in this beautiful country.

Thieving savages.

Honest Maori must be so ashamed.
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March 28, 2016 9:25am
publicwatchdog

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Manolo – if you are attempting to (again) suggest or imply that I, Penny Bright, have EVER accepted any donations of any type from Kim Dotcom – that is a DEFAMATORY LIE.

Please be reminded that I currently have defamation proceedings on foot in the Auckland High Court against Auckland Council CEO Stephen Town.

Penny Bright
2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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March 28, 2016 9:26am
Manolo

Not going to happen:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/274402-sanders-superdelegates-may-jump-from-clinton

After three big wins out west, Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders said he thinks many of the party’s superdelegates who have pledged to rival Hillary Clinton will switch to his side.
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March 28, 2016 9:26am
Jack5

Has anyone seen how many, if any, Yazidi and Christians are among the Middle East refugees being taken into NZ.

Does the Immigration Department and the other bureaucrats who handle the refugee quota have a ban on accepting Christians?
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March 28, 2016 9:28am
Manolo

@All fellow readers: Excuse me, but did I ever mention Miss Dim’s name to elicit such violent reply? 😀
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March 28, 2016 9:28am
starboard

..Is there anyone you currently dont have defamation proceedings ” on foot ” ??
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March 28, 2016 9:28am
Maggy Wassilieff

That’s my uptick for the 9:00am posting…. still clearing up the sprayed tea and toast, but worth it for the laugh.
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March 28, 2016 9:29am
Inandout

stephieboy 9.12: You can’t really argue with these stats.

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/03/some-cold-hard-statistics-to-chew-on/
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March 28, 2016 9:30am
mikenmild

Jack
I think you have asked about Yazidi and Christian refugees coming here before. I’m not sure these figures have been released, but if you write to the Immigration Service with an official information request you would probably be able to get this.
You could also use fyi.org.nz
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March 28, 2016 9:32am
Sofia

Penny Bright 2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate
The female ‘Bernie Sanders’ of the 2016 Auckland Mayoralty campaign

One difference being that Sanders, four term Mayor of Burlington, Vermont, appears to have payed his rates.
Also Bernie Sanders does not seem to be a hypocritical liar.
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March 28, 2016 9:33am
Manolo

Pass me the straight jacket:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/26/glenn-beck-ted-cruz-anointed-for-this-time-walks-back-blast-of-christians-supporting-trump/
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March 28, 2016 9:34am
stephieboy

Jack 5 , religion nothing to do with the sectarian conflict in Norhern Ireland ?

What planet are you living on ? Pluto ?

http://www.history.co.uk/shows/soldiers-stories/articles/northern-ireland-conflict

Yazidis, Christians ? Ask the Minster resonsible for immigration and refugees would be a good place to start .
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March 28, 2016 9:36am
Kiwi Dave

RF @ 9.25: ‘Honest Maori must be so ashamed.’

According to the picture, the alleged offenders are all male. Should honest males be equally ashamed?
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March 28, 2016 9:46am
Awww C-mon

Bright you are hypocritical POS

I wish you would just fuck off once and for all.
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March 28, 2016 9:46am
stephieboy

Inandout, the “cold hard statistics” quoted by whale oil, are refuted below , including those from the same PEW research ,

http://www.adl.org/education-outreach/curriculum-resources/c/myths-and-facts-about-muslim.html

Now which ones are right ?
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March 28, 2016 9:47am
PhilP

FUCK, who cares Penny!!!!
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March 28, 2016 9:47am
big bruv

The joys of a multi cultural society. Segregated trains for women and children to protect them from Islamist scum.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/26/german-railway-launches-gender-segregated-carriages-in-wake-of-sex-attacks/

Defend that Stephieboy.
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March 28, 2016 9:48am
cmm

@Left Right and Centre

Absolutely correct.

When we see sports categories for women we know it is because they lack the ability to compete with men. I don’t follow much sport, except for field hockey – a sport that is played about equally by men and women. A club-level men’s team would wipe the floor with the national women’s team. You can tell if a men or women are playing without even looking at the players because women hit the ball only about half the speed that men do: if you can see the ball moving, it’s women.

Every time someone says bullshit like “it’s time a woman got the job” it is demeaning to women. The unsaid sub-text is that she didn’t get it on her merits as a leader, rather because of what is in her pants.

That is one reason why computer programming is completely dominated by men. Computers don’t react to emotion. You can’t get a program to work by crying or other emotional manipulation.
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March 28, 2016 9:51am
Manolo

@big bruv: stephieboy is a well-known contortionist who will justify any action of his beloved Islam, regardless of how barbaric it is. Allahu akbar is his motto.
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March 28, 2016 9:52am
Jack5

In response to my question whether the number of Yazidi or Christians among refugees to NZ had been released, Milky at 9.32 suggested I make an official information request.

That’s the point, Milky. There are propaganda media releases about the arrival of Muslim refugees when they arrive, but I’ve seen nothing about the arrival in NZ of Yazidis or Christian refugees from the Middle East. So there are probably none, or very few.

Can we assume that NZ is targeting and or giving preference to Muslim refugees? Who would be making the choice: bureaucrats advised by the Third World-dominated U.N. and perhaps some flaky international organisations, such as the parent of Amnesty International Aotearoa New Zealand Inc.

I see one of the Stephieboys shares Milky’s view, implying that if anyone wants to know if any of the persecuted non-Muslim minorities are coming to NZ, then the curious person should make an official information request.

Typical reaction of pro-Muslims and the PC Brigade: shut up, and mind your own business, and why do you need to know any way?
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March 28, 2016 9:54am
Maggy Wassilieff

@PhiP 9:47am

FUCK, who cares Penny!!!!

Well, at least 31 of us. Penny’s post has gone Pink in less than 1 hour.

Obviously negative publicity is better than no publicity.
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March 28, 2016 9:55am
PhilP

It will disappear soon Maggy, such fun!
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March 28, 2016 9:59am
Manolo

@Maggy: With a bit of luck, a few more ticks and she’ll disappear into oblivion!
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March 28, 2016 10:00am
Rich Prick

“The female ‘Bernie Sanders’ of the 2016 Auckland Mayoralty campaign”

Oh come now Penny, you don’t look a day over 70.
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March 28, 2016 10:00am
stephieboy

big bruv , name me 10 good reasons why we should belive the pulp and Crap Breitbart gushes .? Especially when e.g it was claimed its founder was assisnated by the current POTUS ?.

cmm, you claimed yesterday that Bkacks could not fly in the Sout African airforce . Then how does the Nigetian Air Force gets it fleet off the ground ?

White South Afrikaan mercenaries? ,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Air_Force
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March 28, 2016 10:03am
stigie

“It will disappear soon Maggy”

So will the hovel hopefully from the stench of cat piss and hordings..?
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March 28, 2016 10:03am
Rich Prick

Although, “feel the blight” has a certain ring to it.
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March 28, 2016 10:08am
Jack5

One of the Stephiepeople posted at 10.03:

cmm, you claimed yesterday that Bkacks could not fly in the Sout African airforce . Then how does the Nigetian Air Force gets it fleet off the ground ?

Ah the Nigetians? They’re from the planet Qo’noS (known before its referendum and flag change as Kronos) , and the Bkacks are a race related to the Klingons, aren’t they? Should be good flyers then.
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March 28, 2016 10:08am
Manolo

Politico argues against Trump:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-republican-convention-213770
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March 28, 2016 10:14am
Inandout

stephieboy 9.47: The ADL has to walk a fine line by on one hand supporting Israel and at the same time defending Muslims in the US, even though Islam is not a race. Like all long established race organisations they become very careful in their opinions, and have to be seen as ultra fair, but in doing so they analyse to such an extent they disappear up their own arses.

If every Muslim in the world was asked if they supported an Islam dominated world, you know what the answer would be.
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March 28, 2016 10:15am
pentwig

Good grief

Another day of steffi/daffy defending murderous terrorists.
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March 28, 2016 10:16am
Tauhei Notts

All is not lost for Bernie Sanders.
12 days ago was he was a $26 no-hoper in the betting.
He has since shortened to $14.50.
It is a faint glimmer of hope for his supporters. Very faint, because Hillary’s odds are still less than $1.50.
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March 28, 2016 10:16am
UglyTruth

Criminals are a protected species in Australia just like here,http,find yourself in a situation where you end up defending your family and yourself in your own house and you`ll possibly face a murder or an assault charge.
The law is a stinking pile of pigshit .

That’s civil law for you – the legal system of choice for empire builders and predators.
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March 28, 2016 10:16am
Manolo

The rules are there to be manipulated:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ted-cruz-gains-in-louisiana-after-loss-there-to-donald-trump-1458861959

Donald Trump beat Sen. Ted Cruz earlier this month in Louisiana’s Republican presidential primary by 3.6 percentage points, but the Texan may wind up with as many as 10 more delegates from the state than the businessman.
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March 28, 2016 10:16am
RF

Kiwi Dave. 9.46am.

Nah… That was just one incident. There are others involving feral females that have made head lines. I see part of the problem as being hand wringing apologists in full denial that some Maori have serious social issues.
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March 28, 2016 10:17am
Jack5

To the Stephieboy team:

It must be apparent from your ongoing battering on Kiwiblog that you have no chance of converting New Zealand into an Islamic country.

For your own peace of mind and security Stephiepeople, you should now officially and openly abjure your Islamic faith.

Doesn’t matter whether you become Baptist, Catholic, or Salvation Army member, even Sikh, Buddhist, or Griffite atheist, but get out of the Islamic yoke and taste the bacon, friends. It’s great.
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March 28, 2016 10:21am
Maggy Wassilieff

“It will disappear soon Maggy”

Hands up those who click on hidden posts.
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March 28, 2016 10:23am
cmm

An article that quotes Little as if his opinion matters….

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/78299666/shops-could-be-open-on-easter-sunday-with-conditions-andrew-little

Well a bit surprising given how MSM have recently been throwing Little under the bus, but this stuff must feed Little’s ego enough that he thinks he matters.
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March 28, 2016 10:32am
renderer

Nothing like a visit from the Kingsland Kook to raise the ratings
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March 28, 2016 10:37am
Maggy Wassilieff

Starboard ok?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/78306480/two-people-believed-to-be-uninjured-in-plane-crash-at-wanaka-airport
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March 28, 2016 10:37am
Scott

Very sad about the Christians murdered in Pakistan by Muslims. Their crime? Having a church picnic.
We are fortunate in this country churches and any other groups can have a picnic without fear of Muslim terrorism.
May that long continue and long may we not have a lot of Muslims in our community to muck it up.
Regarding sharia law it’s very natural for a Muslim to want sharia law to be instituted in any country including this one.
Talked to a young Muslim woman a couple of years ago, from Malaysia and she thought it would be a good thing to have sharia law in this country. She wasn’t being mean, that’s just honestly how they think.
The more Muslims you have in a country the stronger they become and the more pressure goes on for special treatment, Muslim prayer rooms in schools as has happened in Christchurch and special Islamic courts as is happening in great Britain. Islam is a religion of dominance not tolerance.
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March 28, 2016 10:43am
Inandout

Jack5 10.21: Ah, the smell of frying bacon, just can’t understand why anyone would turn it down. I knew a Jewish girl once who liked the ham and bacon sandwiches; just shows you.
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March 28, 2016 10:45am
Scott

And the media, in this case the New Zealand Herald, respond with an article deploring right wing hooligans protesting the Brussels massacres.
Belgium may have a lot of problems but right wing hooligans is not the problem. The problem is Muslim terrorists. And that’s been caused by mass Muslim immigration. Brussels is 26% Muslim. That’s the problem right there.
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March 28, 2016 10:51am
renderer

Penny is being stupid your profession or are you just naturally gifted?
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March 28, 2016 10:52am
stephieboy

Jack 5 , rest assured I’ve no desire to conver NZ or anyone to anything nor necessarily to adjure to any faith .including Islam .

I enjoyed a rack of tasty pork ribs at The Stables Elliot St Auckland City on Saturday night including some wonderful boutique local beer .

So there !

Much more importantly for you is to come down off your planet and attend to your chronic paranoia and hysteria .

Inandout, and likewise if you asked every sincere Christian supporting a Christian dominated world ?

Whether Judasim is a religion or race is a subject of ongoing debate .Hitler as a matter of interest thought they were the same .

Happy ?

Also do note in regard to statistics ,

“More data means more information, but it also means more false information.”
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March 28, 2016 10:55am
Northland Wahine

I read that Muslim Business groups want to encourage Muslims to celebrate Ramadan in New Zealand due to it being winter and fasting hours would be less. They could fill hotels during the down season, eat before sunrise and after sunset and pray all day…

Food for thought…
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March 28, 2016 10:55am
Dave Mann

I wonder how the police got involved in the incident where the burglar was killed? If one of the home’s occupiers called them, then they were stupid.

I have considered what I would do in the event that I had to shoot an intruder to protect myself and my family. The correct action is firstly to ensure that they are nicely dead (so that they can’t bring assault charges etc or come back with their mates later), and then dump the body in a gully somewhere as far away as is practicable. It’s unlikely anybody would go to the police and file a missing-person report saying that they were out burgling in such-and-such suburb is it?

A lot of inconvenience and could have been avoided if only a little forward planning had been employed in this case.
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March 28, 2016 11:04am
UglyTruth

The problem is Muslim terrorists.

No, the problem is ignorance of the politicization of religion.

Islamist terrorism does happen, but what happened in Brussels followed the usual Gladio-B pattern.

http://wideshut.co.uk/gladio-b-the-origins-of-natos-secret-islamic-terrorist-proxies/
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March 28, 2016 11:06am
Scott

President Obama as usual is totally on point about this. He wants the United states to lead by example and take in more Syrian refugees! The man is a genius, why didn’t we all think of that?
Problem with Muslims? The solution is to take in more Muslims! What could possibly go wrong?
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March 28, 2016 11:10am
Jack5

Whale Oil today gives passing swipe to Jo de Joux for National’s loss of Northland.

If Whale is right about de Joux, I hope she’s not to blame for the ructions that are occurring in the Southland-Clutha electorate.

On May 29 last year, Whale wrote a derogatory piece abut de Joux, beginning:

The National Party has a silly view that campaigners should not be paid. Yet they happily pay Jo de Joux to run campaigns like the Northland by election campaign. This is despite de Joux being the most loathed person in the National Party because she yells and screams at members, volunteers, and just about every back bench MP.
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March 28, 2016 11:12am
sooty

Manalo @ 9.28. She can’t afford to sue everybody. It would cut into her rates payment!
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March 28, 2016 11:23am
Fletch

Here’s irony for you. Convicted rapist gets run over by a runaway trailer, because at the time he was walking down the street watching porn on his phone.

http://kfor.com/2016/03/25/convicted-rapist-killed-by-runaway-trailer-while-allegedly-watching-porn/
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March 28, 2016 11:26am
Northland Wahine

Fletch… Irony or karma.
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March 28, 2016 11:28am
Odakyu-sen

Here’s a thought.

Do-gooders are motivated by the instant gratification they get by “doing good” (in their eyes). At the same time, they block out any deeper thought about the long-term consequences of their actions.

I’ll give an analogy.
Do-gooder feeds bread to seagulls. Instant warm feelings, “Look at me. I’m making the seagulls happy.”
What the do-gooder doesn’t consider (and avoids thinking about) is that the seagulls are growing dependent on handouts, and may hang around the beaches and fish less often as a result
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March 28, 2016 11:44am
Reid

Update on Brazil. As I’m sure you all know, the CIA is conducting a regime change operation there because its mission is to undermine the BRICS. All the usual suspects (Soros etc) are using all the usual tactics.

Meanwhile, the sheeple happily bleat and baa and chew the cud in their green green meadow of utter delusion.

Aren’t sheeple etc…

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/03/24/langleys-latest-themed-revolution-the-yellow-duck-revolution-brazil.html
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March 28, 2016 11:49am
Northland Wahine

Yep, odakyu, and that’s exactly what’s happened.

Yet if the seagull gets entangled in a fishing net, compassion would dictate we assist the seagull and nurse it until it’s able to look after itself.
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March 28, 2016 11:57am
Reid

UT, you probably know most of this already but there may be some fragments of interest. Nosty you might also be interested.

http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/11/the-crown-temple-a-history-of-the-bar-association-and-who-really-owns-the-usa/
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March 28, 2016 12:11pm
cmm

@stephieboy:

” you claimed yesterday that Bkacks could not fly in the Sout African airforce . Then how does the Nigetian Air Force gets it fleet off the ground ? ”

I did not say that blacks could not fly in the SA Airforce. What I said is that even though there has been a whole lot of affirmative action in the SA military the South African pilots are still mainly white.

The big difference between South Africa and Nigeria is that the South Africans still have a choice. They have really high quality pilots with extensive combat experience. The Nigerians are unproven.

South Africa has an affirmative action goal to get 75% black pilots, but that is not going well. They can’t get enough black pilots through, even with a rigged system. https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htlead/20130319.aspx

The South African economy has just got worse since the end of apartheid. Anything breaks and they still blame apartheid.

It’s over twenty years since apartheid ended. You can’t blame that any more.

Compare that with Japan or Germany – both bombed to hell in WW2. Both managed to rebuild really quickly. Twenty years on from the end of the war (1965), the Japanese had built up huge industry (Toyota, Sony…), Germany much the same. and were becoming world leaders in various fields.

Maybe, just maybe, this has something to do with the intelligence of the population: Japan:105, South Africa:77 (with the highest IQ people being kept out of positions by affirmative action, so it is effectively worse than that). https://iq-research.org/en/page/average-iq-by-country

And just remember, we’re talking AVERAGES. That does not mean EVERYONE is the same because we don’t all have the same IQ. Due to the shape of the bell curve, about 15% of people with an IQ of 77 will still have an IQ of over 100.

When we get out to, say, the IQ needed to be a good programmer we’re talking around 125-130 at least. At those levels only in 25 or so people in an IQ100 population qualify. For an IQ77 population it is somewhere closer to 1 in 3000.
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March 28, 2016 12:18pm
Odakyu-sen

Northland Wahine,

“…until it’s able to look after itself”

Got it in one. That’s the theory of welfare (and a very noble one at that).

Problem is, the State doesn’t want to look hard for the “until.”

Make a man dependent upon you, and he is yours.
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March 28, 2016 12:33pm
Paulus Gnome

But the seagull is ungrateful, takes a hunk out of your hand while being rescued and nicks all of your sandwiches for good measure! (or the credit cards in your car while you are assisting as was the case!)
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March 28, 2016 12:33pm
Reid

I did not say that blacks could not fly in the SA Airforce. What I said is that even though there has been a whole lot of affirmative action in the SA military the South African pilots are still mainly white.

stephie is a liar cmm. He does what he did to you also to lots of other people, invariably those who he disagrees with. He pretends that the person he disagrees with said something which they never did, and he often phrases it to make it seem as if he’s quoting the person. The fact he doesn’t do this to people he agrees with, proves that this is a deliberate,chosen tactic, not some accidental quirk and the fact he does this often – normally once every few days to someone or other – proves that he regards this as a legitimate tactic in his debate arsenal.

This tactic is unique to him and it’s not personal (not directed at you) but it’s so common and so ubiquitous toward every single person he disagrees with that the only possible conclusion is that he’s either got some mental problem or he’s a congenital liar. There is no third alternative. And as I’ve said above, the modus operandi indicates it’s the latter, not the former.

DPF when stephie reports this to you as he normally does when he’s been called out, bear in mind he does this a lot, not just to me but as I say, to everyone who he disagrees with and he’s been doing it ever since he started here. So rather than giving me a holiday for calling him a liar yet again, which I shall continue to do for as long as he continues to lie, it might be a good idea to tell him to stop lying. OTY of course, but that would be justice. I know you don’t follow the debates on your blog, but one way to establish whether or not I’m full of shit on this could be to review his karma record, because one of the reasons stephie attracts such a tremendous number of negatives on almost every single post he makes, is because he does this, all the time.
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March 28, 2016 12:38pm
Paulus

Northern Wahine

During Ramadan Muslims cannot have sex either, or is that during the day ?- so why join!

Wow – no food and no sex. Bugger that for playing soldiers.
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March 28, 2016 12:45pm
Reid

Quite a good battlefield sitrep in and around Palmyra.

https://youtu.be/ATmNTLvvZg4
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March 28, 2016 12:47pm
RichardX

Reid (20,641 comments) says:
March 28th, 2016 at 12:38 pm
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DPF when stephie reports this to you as he normally does when he’s been called out, bear in mind he does this a lot, not just to me but as I say, to everyone who he disagrees with and he’s been doing it ever since he started here. So rather than giving me a holiday for calling him a liar yet again, which I shall continue to do for as long as he continues to lie, it might be a good idea to tell him to stop lying. OTY of course, but that would be justice. I know you don’t follow the debates on your blog, but one way to establish whether or not I’m full of shit on this could be to review his karma record, because one of the reasons stephie attracts such a tremendous number of negatives on almost every single post he makes, is because he does this, all the time.
…

That is a pretty slimy rewrite of history
You got a holiday for using unacceptable language
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March 28, 2016 12:49pm
Northland Wahine

Paulus, no wonder the men get more agitated during Ramadan.
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March 28, 2016 12:50pm
pentwig

Reid
You are totally correct at 12.45

Not so sure about your 12.11 though. I think the masonic lodge and Vatican would have an entirely different version.
But interesting.
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March 28, 2016 12:51pm
starboard

All good thanks Maggy..just an old Harvard showing off..bugga those fixed wingers..give me a bubble anyday
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March 28, 2016 12:52pm
Inandout

The Lefty teachers have got a stranglehold on schools. What next? No wonder the Muslims are gaining ground in the UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3511484/Headteachers-tell-staff-use-pink-ink-marking-aggressive-red-children-not-feel-like-failure.html
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March 28, 2016 12:59pm
Odakyu-sen

cmm.

“Due to the shape of the bell curve, about 15% of people with an IQ of 77 will still have an IQ of over 100.”

Do you mean “Due to the shape of the bell curve, about 15% of people (in a population with an average IQ of 77) will still have an IQ of over 100.” ?

(And 15% below 77 I presume.)
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March 28, 2016 1:00pm
Reid

https://youtu.be/QLsMfmZaEn0

https://youtu.be/cKUaqFzZLxU
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March 28, 2016 1:07pm
stephieboy

Richard X, thats correct I reported Reid for calling me a C…. ! Not on for me

BtW way one of the few times I’ve reported abuse .

Reid, so the Nigerian airforce is mined by all white personal ?

cmm, Nigerian pilots not proven ? Sheer sophistry . What about say the Polish , Latvian or Romanian airforce ? Many, many African or other airforces have not to be proven in this time of relative peace .
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March 28, 2016 1:11pm
Griff

Problem is we would need to see the normal distribution .
I would guess that the lower end would be distorted because have a real low iq can result in a propensity to eat your self .
Having a look online confirms my guess.
IQ in some races does not follow the theoretical statistical bell curve with a distorting bulge towards the higher end..
http://www.intelltheory.com/bellcurve.shtml
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/iq.htm
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March 28, 2016 1:13pm
Reid

I called you a c… stephie (which was one of the very rare occasions I’ve used that word here) because you lied about me saying something which I never did, and it was the millionth time you’d done that.

As far as I’m concerned, pretending someone has said something they haven’t, is very c…ty behaviour indeed, and I stand by that opinion.

And BTW, how the fuck did you interpret my analysis of your behaviour in my 12.38 to be in any possible way a comment at all on:

Reid, so the Nigerian airforce is mined by all white personal ?

??

More lies, or is it you really do have a mental problem?

Like I said, it’s one or the other, there isn’t a third alternative.
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