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March 25, 2016 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 25 March 2016

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Keeping Stock

Quite so Nostradamus. In fact I wholly support the Labour Party’s reported intention to mirror Norman Kirk’s ascension to Prime Minister by Little first leading Labour to two election defeats. By 2023 I will be retired (or close to it), cashed up with Kiwisaver, and on a pension so I will no longer be a Rich Prick who Little and Robertson can tax the shirt off my back.
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March 25, 2016 5:41pm
RF

Rest easy gentlefolk. The Police have arrested the special person who violently robbed the Auckland jewellery store last week.

Angry & Kelvin will be excited as they will visit him in the slammer and sign him up for Labour Party membership.
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March 25, 2016 5:45pm
wiseowl

Viking
I hope someone also makes the truth available.
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March 25, 2016 5:47pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Griff 5:20pm

He’ll be getting tonight’s dinner on the same plate and will be using the same cutlery he was employing for his mad experiment.
Anyway, he’s well pleased with the finished product and I suspect more circuits will be made in the future….but not in my kitchen!
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March 25, 2016 5:57pm
Tamati2

Mikenmild at 2:07pm

Breaker Morant was executed in 1902 …. “the Australian Imperial Force (AIF) personnel served under the terms of the 1903 Australian Defence Act, which prohibited the application ofthe death penalty by courts martial until confirmed by the Australian Governor-General.” (http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/video/executed-five-great-war-storyf )

“It was not until 1907 that news of the trial and executions were made public in Australia when Witton published Scapegoats of the Empire. The Australian government ensured that none of its troops would be tried by the British military during World War I. The official court records have never been found, prompting accusations of a British cover up.”
….”Witton bitterly denounces the courts martial as “the greatest farces ever enacted outside a theatre … held purely to conform to the rules of military law”.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_martial_of_Breaker_Morant)

From past reading, I am still of the understanding that the execution of Morant (and Handcock) caused much disquiet in Australia that enabled their soldiers to avoid the firing squad in WW1.
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March 25, 2016 6:33pm
Manolo

Unbelievable. The seller of smoke is barking mad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xJFHAQ_i-E

Pope Francis uses a traditional pre-Easter ceremony to condemn the Brussels attackers as well as arms manufacturers and traffickers for what he says is their partial responsibility for Tuesday’s bombings.
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March 25, 2016 6:46pm
Manolo

Good on these people for defying this anachronistic law. Shame on Labour lite for not changing it:
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/money/news/garden-centres-defy-retail-law/ar-BBqTJ1g?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=mailsignoutmd

A garden centre operator defying Easter trading laws says it’s getting plenty of positive feedback from customers.

Oderings had grown thousands of plants for its Easter sale and they were selling well at its ten garden centres on Good Friday, Julian Odering, a company director, says.
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March 25, 2016 6:55pm
Reid

…there is a real likelihood of a nuclear war breaking out…

“Firstly there is the Wolfowitz doctrine, which basically makes it clear that the United States should prevent the rise of any state that could present sufficient power to threaten American unilateral action. Russia has risen and has displayed such power. This is the reason for the constant demonisation of Russia’s leader. We have the number one candidate for the democratic nomination, Hillary Clinton, who now compares the President of Russia with Hitler. So what has happened is that every American president during my lifetime, especially Nixon and Reagan, worked to create trust between the two major nuclear powers. But beginning with the Clinton regime, the trust that had been achieved was progressively destroyed.”

“When you destroy trust between nuclear powers you recreate the possibility of nuclear war, either by intent, or miscalculation. So this is a reckless and irresponsible act on the part of Washington. The information war that is going on now is to prepare the American population and NATO allies for military conflict with Russia. We now have high level people in the US government and military who go to Congress and say that Russia is an existential threat. This is rubbish! You have to remember that before the wars started in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria, it was the constant demonisation of the leaders of the governments, against the Tailban, Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi and Assad. When you see these kinds of demonisation it fits a pattern.”

“A hot war can come from a new cold war. Another factor is the American military industrial complex, with a turnover of a trillion dollars annually. Their entire revenues come from serving the war capability of the US government. They have a huge interest in having a major enemy. They tried to make terrorists that enemy, but that is not serious enough, so this complex has great interest in recreating the Russian threat. From the neo- conservative standpoint, they actually regard any country with an independent foreign policy to be a threat to the United States. So that part of the equation means that they can move the cold war into a hot war, it only takes a small amount of miscalculation. I don’t see how the Russian government can believe one word coming out of Washington.”

“Some neocons say: what’s the good of nuclear weapons if you can’t use them? They have a theory that the US has sufficient superiority to win a strike against Russia. If the US cannot win against a few thousand Taliban, it will not be able to win a possible conventional war against the Red Army, Washington will go nuclear rather than lose a conflict with Russia (or China). A nuclear war cannot be won.”

“The neoconservatives now have no competition. There is nobody out there apart from Washington wishing to take over the world. As long as the American vassal states that comprise NATO accept American hegemony, they magnify the chance of a new massive war. Republican candidates are competing with each other to see who can treat Russia the most aggressively.”

Murderous bastard neocons.

http://sputniknews.com/radio_brave_new_world/20160317/1036455898/the-real-likelihood-of-a-nuclear-war.html#ixzz43r6PRvu8
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March 25, 2016 7:03pm
minto57

Plonker down tickers accusing All in sundry of bigotry and hijacking the process for political gain.It was the wanton wasting of taxpayers money for no gain,money better spent investigating burglars.

Wastrels all!
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March 25, 2016 7:14pm
stephieboy

Reid, like EAD’s economic meltdown just keep us posted when Obama is about to access the Nuclear codes for the imminent Apocalypse and Armageddon .

Counting down from now…..!

“Republican candidates are competing with each other to see who can treat Russia the most aggressively.” ?

I thought Trump thought Putin was nice sought of guy ?

Trump: ‘I want to get along with Russia’

“[Russian president Vladimir] Putin says very nice things about me. I think that’s very nice. It has no effect on me, other than I think it’s very nice,” the Republican front-runner added.

https://www.rt.com/usa/336501-trump-russia-relations-putin/
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March 25, 2016 7:48pm
Reid

https://youtu.be/YKkuWX406q4
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March 25, 2016 8:13pm
Viking2

Well here’s another take on the flag.

Apart from the Regressives who will always argue that it’s never appropriate to change a flag, no matter what messages the incumbent conveys, most people will agree that the Union Jack is not an appropriate representation of contemporary New Zealand – or even of New Zealand as it is constitutionally formed. A defaced British naval ensign does not tell the story of this multicultural nation that uniquely has a bicultural founding document. Our current flag is resoundingly deficient in that respect. It needs to tell a story that does reflect who we are, not who we are not – and we are not a British colony.

The Lockwood flag really is the new National Party flag, that’s the only role for it now. As the picture above shows it was always a party flag.

http://morganfoundation.org.nz/national-partys-new-flag/

About sums it up and here’s a reminder of the committees rules for a flag.

https://medium.com/@CraigJohnsonIS/a-buyers-guide-to-the-national-flag-5095109f14bc#.rfmbk6scn
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March 25, 2016 8:25pm
wikiriwhis business

“Finally, if you choose to call people with different views from yours “treasonous”, you really are a sad sack.”

And of course you haven’t linked the sudden out of the blue flag change financial rape with TPP have you
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March 25, 2016 8:28pm
calendar girl

“And of course you haven’t linked the sudden out of the blue flag change financial rape with TPP have you”

Spare me, another conspiracy theorist ……
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March 25, 2016 8:33pm
blazeoflight

Jeez

I come back in from dinner in Taka and every fucker’s gone to bed!!!

Kiwiblog is definitely for the grey brigade!
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March 25, 2016 9:02pm
blazeoflight

And while I’m here

if anyone knows a Sky TV exec, ask him where the fuck is episode 6 of Vikings!!!

Godbothering pricks?
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March 25, 2016 9:04pm
stephieboy

Reid,

“New Tech Shows Why You Can’t Trust Anything You See on the News’

Rich irony there as it seems even RT can’t trust what is puts into its own news !

Wow !
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March 25, 2016 9:05pm
blazeoflight

OK

I take the above post back.

Its loaded.

Or maybe they keep an eye on Kiwiblog!
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March 25, 2016 9:06pm
Nostradamus

Calendar Girl:

Spare me, another conspiracy theorist ……

I actually wonder if Wikiriwhis Business manages to cope with everyday activities like grocery shopping and surfing the internet. Those evil global corporates are EVERYWHERE! Who will protect our supermarket aisles? The evil global corporates want to sell us food and drink. Outrageous! And who will protect us from propaganda on the internet? Facebook wants to mess with our minds! Disgraceful! And who will protect our flag from the evil global corporates that want to see it changed to a blue flag? Yes, I tell you, those evil global corporates are EVERYWHERE!
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March 25, 2016 9:07pm
publicwatchdog

Hi Kiwibloggers!

Happy Easter 🙂

Seen this?

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Stadiums (HBO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcwJt4bcnXs

Auckland already has three major stadiums – Eden Park, North Harbour and Mt Smart.

I haven’t noticed thousands of Auckland citizens and ratepayers marching down Queen St, waving banners and chanting for yet another sports stadium?

What are the public of Auckland?

A giant CCO?
(Ca$h Cow Organisation?)

Who wants it, who will be paying for it, why do we need another one if the three we’ve already got aren’t working properly in an integrated and cost-effective way?

What’s really behind this?

An excuse to sell off North Harbour / Mt Smart / Eden Park so some greedy property developer(s) can get the land?

Sorry – but as an Auckland Mayoral candidate, corporate welfare is something I’m just not into…..

Looking forward to ‘user pays’ applying to corporate sport and those who own, operate and manage it?

Penny Bright.

(Her Warship 😉
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March 25, 2016 9:07pm
blazeoflight

I take my Viking posts back: Lightbox is Telecom…sorry, Spark.
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March 25, 2016 9:13pm
Awww C-mon

Penny!

In the spirit of Easter how about apologising to Keeping Stock?

Nah… Thought not?

Also what exactly were you arrested for? I heard it was public display of stupidity?
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March 25, 2016 9:27pm
publicwatchdog

Just did a google on Breaker Morant – found this – interesting …

http://m.smh.com.au/it-pro/the-trial-of-breaker-morant-was-no-injustice–he-was-guilty-20091019-h4wo.html

Penny Bright
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March 25, 2016 9:28pm
renderer

Looking forward to ‘user pays’ applying to corporate sport and those who own, operate and manage it?

How about some “user pays” for your rates you hypocrite
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March 25, 2016 9:35pm
Captain Mainwaring

It was too good to be true.
The mad, delusional, diarrohea-spraying loon is back.
But she’s no longer finishing her posts with ‘2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.’
Has she realised the inevitable and pulled out, or have they banned her from standing on account of her conflict of interest?
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March 25, 2016 9:46pm
thepolecat

#CruzSexScandal just became the highest trending topic in the world.

This GOP race is over.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/03/24/the-national-enquirer-runs-story-of-multiple-ted-cruz-affairs/
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March 25, 2016 10:03pm
stephieboy

the polecat,

and this from your link ,

“..The National Enquirer is indeed a tabloid – and as such there are various grains of salt that should be applied when reviewing anything they present.

However, that said, they have been unfortunately accurate for more than a few presidential hopefuls: Gary Hart, Jesse Jackson and John Edwards to name a few of the more infamous examples.

Beyond the story itself there’s a few presenting elements which point to a high degree of confidence, and as a consequence ‘legal avoidance’, on the publishers’ part.
Firstly, they post pictures of the collective mistresses. NE would never legally “go there” if they did not hold a very reasonable certainty the outlined players were factually part of the story.
Secondly, there’s at least one face in the group that is easily identifiable.
When you accept the NE editorial/legal requirement for research and attributed comment prior to publication, you recognize there is more than a strong probability each of the outlined group (pictured) was contacted prior to publication; and one of those is very close to the Donald Trump campaign. Ergo, it’s entirely likely presidential candidate Donald Trump knew this story was coming out.
Which puts candidate Trump’s prior discussion and opinion of media libel in a strangely much larger, and more substantially prescient, aspect. 3-D political strategy not withstanding….”

Many thanks for it. Be most interested to see how especially the fundie Christian Right in the US and here will take to this if proved to be the real Mc Coy !
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March 25, 2016 10:21pm
thepolecat

If you have Twitter, I encourage you to look at how quickly this story is developing.
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March 25, 2016 10:28pm
cha

Why The Donald hired Katrina”bullet lady” Pierson.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/03/katrina-pierson-donald-trump-spokesperson-ted-cruz-affair/

#cruzsexscandal
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March 25, 2016 11:04pm
Manolo

Her lying will never cease:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/24/lost-clinton-emails-unearthed-from-early-2009.html?intcmp=hpbt3

Judicial Watch on Thursday announced that it had unearthed emails from Hillary Clinton’s personal email account dated February 2009. Until now, the former secretary of state had maintained she was not using the account at that time.
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March 26, 2016 6:33am
Manolo

Thomas Sowell on the Messiah:
http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2012/06/12/socialist_or_fascist/page/full

It bothers me a little when conservatives call Barack Obama a “socialist.” He certainly is an enemy of the free market, and wants politicians and bureaucrats to make the fundamental decisions about the economy. But that does not mean that he wants government ownership of the means of production, which has long been a standard definition of socialism.
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March 26, 2016 7:28am
stephieboy

The Ted Cruz sex scandal on Twitter ?

It’s like a fire storm ,

5 women, Ted ?

My Man

(close up of Tiger woods )

https://mobile.twitter.com/Nole4life02/status/713380750691856384/photo/1
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March 26, 2016 7:51am
Manolo

@stephieboy: The flesh is weak…or maybe Ted is a Muslim?
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