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Shawn Herles

I agree with Tom, Avatar was hideous and laughable. Whoever called it ‘Dances with Smurfs’ was spot on, and ‘Margin Call’ was outstanding. MC is an example of how to do a film about the potential down side of capitalism without being preachy or politically partisan.
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March 1, 2016 12:39pm
AgentBallSack

List Moron(ey) from Labour criticizes new drink driving limits despite the fact that anti smacking bill hasn’t stopped 1 child from being killed in New Zealand yet.
Apparently police are focussing their resources on catching people who aren’t criminals.
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March 1, 2016 12:42pm
Awww C-mon

Stars and Stripes: a bit of Police brutality would have been good, that cop with the happy stick out should have been using it, the fat prick who hit the female cop with flag needed a good kicking.

ABS, fucker can’t reoffend from a coffin… Just sayin’
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March 1, 2016 12:48pm
mikenmild

I was intrigued to find the other day that Tennessee had adopted an official state firearm, joining six other states with official firearms. Looking into this a bit more, states have adopted quite a few odd symbols.

Official musical instruments – fiddle (Arskansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Dakota), dulcimer (Kentucky), accordion (Louisiana, Wisconsin) and guitar (Texas).
Toys – Etch-a-sketch (Kansa), Teddy bear (Mississippi) and Slinky (Pennsylvania).
Beverages – Milk (20 states). Opposed to milk stand Alabama (whisky), Massachusetts (cranberry juice), Rhode Island (coffee milk) and Puerto Rico (pina colada).
Eighteen states have an official tartan, but only eight have an official dinosaur.
Oregon has an official microbe.

It seems to me that we could do with some official symbols here, too.
Toy – Buzybee
Dessert – Pavlova
Footwear – Janadal or Gumboot
Drink – not sure- milk or beer (generic)
Chocolate – Peanut slab

etc, etc
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March 1, 2016 12:50pm
dime

“Public Policy Polling, well-known to us from finding out that Americans support bombing the fictional country of Agrabah (Aladdin’s home), has do it again. 10% agree, with 28% ‘not sure’, that Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer.”

umm cool?

Id love to do some polling like that in the shit hole suburb you live in. i bet results would be similar.
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March 1, 2016 12:51pm
Shawn Herles

Speaking of films to see, ‘Sicario’, a film about the war against Mexican drug cartels, is also outstanding. Great cinematography and Benicio del Toro as a Colombian hitman working with the CIA to take out Cartel leaders is riveting. If you liked ‘No Country For Old Men’ you’ll like Sicario.
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March 1, 2016 12:51pm
mikenmild

ABS
It notes in the article that the offender will probably be subject to an extended supervision order. That will keep him on a bracelet for up to 10 years, by which time he will be 92, or dead (hopefully).
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March 1, 2016 12:53pm
Andrei

LOL – Shawn Herles the drug cartel leaders usually are working for the CIA – you need to read some history books
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March 1, 2016 12:54pm
Kimbo

@ Captain Mainwaring (and congratulations on passing the 1000+ post mark, btw!)

That would be Ruth Dyson, the one with a face like the half-sucked lemon to which you refer.

I always remember Dyson interviewed in the ~~Labour Party broadsheet~~ The Listener at the time she became Labour Party President back in the late 1980s how she was hugely impressed by a West Coast woman she knew who was so motivated against her husband’s pro-Springbok views that in protest she jumped in his landrover and drove it until it ran out of petrol. A mighty blow against apartheid – Amandla!
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March 1, 2016 12:55pm
Shawn Herles

Boston Marathon jihad murderer passed US citizenship test and denied terror links 3 months before bombing

“But the government assures us it is going to vet the huge number of Muslim refugees that Obama is bringing into the United States, and make sure there are no jihad terrorists among them. How are they going to do that?”

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/02/boston-marathon-jihad-murderer-passed-us-citizenship-test-and-denied-terror-links-3-months-before-bombing
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March 1, 2016 12:56pm
Captain Mainwaring

Maggy,
It must be nice to be in sunny Gisborne away from the cycleway madness.
It gets worse: After foisting this bullshit on the pour souls of Island Bay for her own supposed benefit, the mad Wade-Brown then up-sticks and moves to Oriental Bay. And the crazy bike track is never going to go any further than Island Bay because the streets through Berhampore and Newtown are so narrow that cars and buses would have to be banned to make room for the bike track.
This is the same deluded council that wants to spend $300 million on a runway extension that’s only a third as long as is what’s actually required for flights to operate long-haul, and that’s even if the airlines thought there was a demand.
The end of Wade-Brown won’t see an end to the madness, as the biggest fan for the pie-in-the-sky airport extension is deputy mayor Justin Lester, who is the front-runner to take over the Mayor’s job. And yes, he’s a Labourite, therefore an expert at spending other people’s money.
Meanwhile, all over Wellington there are green bike lanes, but the bikes continue to run red lights, or jump to the footpath and cross on the pedestrian lights.
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March 1, 2016 12:57pm
Shawn Herles

Switzerland: Trial begins of four Muslim asylum seekers accused of forming Islamic State terror cell

“The solution: bring in many, many more Muslim asylum seekers. What could possibly go wrong? Well, why do you think security is so high at this trial? Because so many have been brought in already.”

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/02/switzerland-trial-begins-of-four-muslim-asylum-seekers-accused-of-forming-islamic-state-terror-cell
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March 1, 2016 12:59pm
Shawn Herles

Andrei…..

Former KGB officer claims Putin involved in drugs trade in 90s

“Former KGB officer Yuriy Shvets has said at the hearings in London on the murder of Alexander Litvinenko that his friend could have been killed because he knew about a “protection racket” of Russian President Vladimir Putin for money laundering by a Colombian drug cartel in the 1990s.”

http://www.unian.info/politics/1055259-former-kgb-officer-claims-putin-involved-in-drugs-trade-in-90s.html

HSBC list shows Putin allies, drug lords used Swiss secrecy

“A report released Sunday revealed the wide array of depositors – including drug cartels and arms dealers – who used the bank to dodge taxes or launder money”

http://www.buffalonews.com/business/hsbc-list-shows-putin-allies-drug-lords-used-swiss-secrecy-20150209
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March 1, 2016 1:02pm
Keeping Stock

@ ABS – I had the misfortune to encounter this man very briefly a few years ago when I was involved in prison ministry. Nothing was said between us, but just being in close proximity to him was chilling, and was an experience I will never forget. He managed to avoid a sentence of preventive detention for his offending against his daughter because of when the offending took place, so having been given a finite sentence, there was always going to be a release date. He was released on parole after nine years of the 14, but was recalled from parole in 2012. He is a seriously bad offender, who will never be rehabilitated.

As mikenmild notes, he will likely be subject to an extended supervision order, but if he were dumped in my community, I would be hugely concerned. Like many other sex offenders he is intelligent and manipulative.
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March 1, 2016 1:08pm
Shawn Herles

Hillary could lose to Trump in Democratic New York

“Confidential polling data shows Hillary Clinton could lose the presidential election in heavily Democratic New York to Donald Trump as the GOP front-runner’s support grows to the point of being “surprisingly strong,” The Post has learned.

The poll results, from Democratic and Republican legislative races, have surprised many leading Dems, virtually all of whom have endorsed Clinton, while confounding and energizing GOP leaders, many of whom until recently have been opposed to Trump.

“There are some Democrats who think that Hillary can be taken if Trump mounts a strong campaign,’’ one of the state’s most prominent Democrats said.”

http://nypost.com/2016/02/28/hillary-could-lose-to-trump-in-democratic-new-york/
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March 1, 2016 1:10pm
Kimbo

@ Captain Mainwaring

…and the roll-call of Ruth Dyson’s ‘achievements’:

Involved in women’s organisations, peace movement and environmental groups since early 1970s
Campaigner for Kerry Burke 1981 & 1984
Campaign worker for Fran Wilde on Homosexual Law Reform Bill 1984
Women’s Representative, New Zealand Council of the New Zealand Labour Party 1984
Executive Member, New Zealand Labour Party 1986
Senior Vice President, New Zealand Labour Party 1987
Campaign organiser for Fran Wilde 1987
President, Labour Party 1988-1993
Member of Parliament 1993-present, including 9 years as a Minister.

http://www.labour.org.nz/ruthdyson

Reminds me in large part of Bob Jones’ comparison of the average National MP up against their Labour counterparts. Whereas the Nat will list the successful businesses they have run, in the absence of anything substantial the Labourite invariably gives a catalogue of the organisations and causes they joined! 😉
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March 1, 2016 1:11pm
stephieboy

dime (12,405 comments) says:
March 1st, 2016 at 11:48 am

Trump can’t wait ?

What of you find specifically appealing about his insanity ?
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March 1, 2016 1:15pm
AgentBallSack

KS, I don’t think an ESO means anything to him. On parole he was caught unattended with a 4 year old girl. If he could do those crimes to his daughter, no one is safe from his predations.
What is concerning is he has high psychopathy markers, delusions of grandeur, and doesn’t admit wrongdoing. He will destroy another life before he’s finished.
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March 1, 2016 1:19pm
AgentBallSack

Kimbo, that list looks remarkably similar to P Dogs “Achievements”.
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March 1, 2016 1:20pm
rangitoto

Religion of peace and tolerance in Denmark.

https://www.rt.com/news/334028-denmark-mosque-stoning-adultery/
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March 1, 2016 1:26pm
dime

“What of you find specifically appealing about his insanity ?”

insanity?

because you have the mental capacity of a child, allow me to respond with something youll understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
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March 1, 2016 1:26pm
pentwig

Stephie

What specifically is different between your insanity and that of the soon to be President Trump’s sanity?

Will need links, naturally.
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March 1, 2016 1:27pm
stephieboy

Shawn Herles, where does the bible give sanction to water boarding and other “ whatever it takes “ torture techniques ? Has your pastor addressed the issue ?

Do you think John Mc Cain ( who as a POW in North Vietnam was tortured ) is talking through his hat when he criticised Ted Cruz who supported Trump on the issue ?

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/02/17/donald-trump-calls-for-use-of-torture-resumption-of-waterboarding/
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March 1, 2016 1:29pm
Keeping Stock

I fear that you are right ABS. Unfortunately, van der Plaat’s offending (or at least that which he was charged over) was between 1969 and 1992. Had he offended against his daughter after 1993, he would have been eligible for a sentence of preventive detention, and could then be held in prison until he dies.
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March 1, 2016 1:34pm
AgentBallSack

Has the separatism gone far enough yet?

“…..At an earlier hearing Patricia Green had denied receiving the survey pegs, valued at $54, on December 14. She had also refused to enter the dock on that occasion.

“I’m not a criminal. This jurisdiction has no right to do what you’re doing to me. I’m a sovereign, a tangata whenua of the land,” she said at the time.
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March 1, 2016 1:44pm
kowtow

Here was silly me thinking the Danes were all liberal and trendy but actually they’re not……..they’re extremists. Isn’t immigration a wonderful thing?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3469906/Imam-Denmark-caught-camera-preaching-women-commit-adultery-stoned-death.html
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March 1, 2016 1:48pm
Fletch

MSNBC reporter and her guest: yeh, Trump is so racist. One of the guys who supports him, David Duke, is a white supremacist from the KKK.

Cut to a Trump rally and comment from a black guy: yeh this David Duke stuff is rubbish. These people always crawl out from under the rocks at election time. Let’s stop with the racist comments.

Cut back to studio reporter: Um, that black guy we just got a sound bite from is not representative of the people who go to Trump rallies. He was pretty much the only black guy there, and we just happened to have comment from him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcWbpGMzSjc

So funny! 😆
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March 1, 2016 1:54pm
Captain Mainwaring

Just watching Parliament. Trust the bloody Greens to turn the Fiji tragedy into a political debate about Climate Change.
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March 1, 2016 2:16pm
Inandout

Stars And Stripes 11.37: What a shit hole Hawera has become, and almost all because of bloody welfare. These wasters have all the time in the world to create mayhem, and we pay their ‘wages’. I think the rot set in when the Police became ‘culture and Treaty obsessed’, being pushed to do the haka instead of being trained in effective baton use. They must treat Maoris with the utmost respect, even when being verbally abused and pushed around.
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March 1, 2016 2:53pm
Keeping Stock

@ Captain Mainwaring – I agree it was shameful. But don’t confuse James Shaw’s tirade as “a political debate”. The Green Party doesn’t do debate; rather Shaw and his Green colleagues climb on their soapbox and lecture us about what we should be doing.
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March 1, 2016 2:54pm
wiseowl

Inandout
And when race based legislation puts them in a priveleged position.
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March 1, 2016 3:19pm
Keeping Stock

Hoo boy – Bill English is serving it up to the Greens at the moment 😀
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March 1, 2016 3:38pm
kowtow

shawn

HSBC ?

Tell ya what , if they weren’t one of the worlds’ biggest banks they’d be in gaol . “Too big to fail” is what people said of the banks but I reckon “Too big to gaol” is apt in this case.

One of the world’s biggest money launderers.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Money-laundering-HSBC-fears-significant-fines/articleshow/46344713.cms
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March 1, 2016 3:44pm
emmess

First of all, I don’t like Trump, I think he would make an awful president.

In my opinion, is it the media who are almost entirely responsible for his rise.
They have spent the last three or fours decades, relentlessly pouncing on anyone who says or does anything ever so slightly to the right of their PC frame of reference. Which either scares the crap out of anyone to conform or drives moderately right leaning politicians out of politics.
Then along comes Trump, who they give a free pass to just so he will fuck up the Republican Party, who makes at least a couple of statements a day, which the media would pounce on and endlessly replay and which would usually be career ending.
They think they can wait until Trump secures the nomination but by then it will be too late.
No one will ever trust them again.

Don’t think it could happen here?
Just look today at how the media attacked Palino, just yesterday for something he didn’t even do.
Has there even been such as disconnect between what the media want us to be outraged at and what we ought to be?
I estimate we are about ten years behind America. If we ever get a left wing government supported what remains of the mainstream media at the time, we will get a Trump too.
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March 1, 2016 3:56pm
Manolo

Whatever (and as long as) it takes to protect the liar:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/29/lynch-no-artificial-deadline-on-doj-s-clinton-email-probe.html?intcmp=hpbt1

Attorney General Loretta Lynch said Monday in an interview with Fox News that the Justice Department has no deadline for concluding the Hillary Clinton email investigation and that it’s being handled “like any other review,” even with the presidential election just months away.
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March 1, 2016 4:00pm
Rich Prick

“Cyclist going at 30-40km whizzed down the pathway and collided with car door.”

It is only a matter of time before some one is killed using Celia’s Cycleway and some poor bugger ends up with a serious driving conviction. I witnessed one near miss that would have otherwise been horrific. Some crazy bullet-shaped bike less than three feet off the ground whizzing along the cycleway behind parked cars, a car turning into a driveway only just missed it. Of course the driver wouldn’t stand a chance of seeing that bike, but had things turned out differently which road user gets charged with careless driving causing death? I think we all know the answer to that.
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March 1, 2016 4:02pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Capn Mainwaring

Well this will be interesting…. Paul Eagle is running as Justin Lester’s deputy for the Mayoral Bid.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/77420015/justin-lester-and-paul-eagle-announce-joint-ticket-for-wellington-mayoralty

Eagle is not a fan of the IB cycleway….. so will get lots of IB votes .

(ps… my ex-neighbours brought Wellington’s rain and wind with them….. all good tho’, we haven’t been under 30 deg for the last month)
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March 1, 2016 4:16pm
Manolo

The Chinese react: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/29/chinas-rrr-cut-shows-yuan-outflow-worries-easing.html

The People’s Bank of China (PBOC) cut the RRR, or the amount of cash banks need to hold, by 0.5%, surprising markets with the move that came in the early evening China time.
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March 1, 2016 4:19pm
Captain Mainwaring

“my ex-neighbours brought Wellington’s rain and wind with them”

Believe it or not Maggy, we’ve had no rain in Wgtn for over seven weeks, and bugger-all wind as well until a few days of northerly last week. Doesn’t look like we’ll see any rain for at least another week. 26-31 every day in the Hutt Valley for a month until yesterday.
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March 1, 2016 4:29pm
ciaron

Some crazy bullet-shaped bike less than three feet off the ground whizzing along the cycleway behind parked cars, a car turning into a driveway only just missed it. Of course the driver wouldn’t stand a chance of seeing that bike, but had things turned out differently which road user gets charged with careless driving causing death? I think we all know the answer to that.

When you say “behind parked cars” do you mean on the footpath? Pleas read below on the assumption that the cyclist is on the road.

I have some sympathy with what you’re saying regarding visibility, but would the situation be any different if a vehicle turned (or merged) left from the right hand lane, colliding with a vehicle in the left lane, going straight ahead? If you’re changing lanes or turning the onus is on you to make sure the way is clear, regardless of how many wheels you have, or what spins them.
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March 1, 2016 4:35pm
Keeping Stock

Further to my 3.38pm comment, check this out. He is particularly harsh on Gareth Hughes, around the 4 minute mark. It’s well worth a watch:

https://youtu.be/k6Qjyn5LURY
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March 1, 2016 4:35pm
Rich Prick

“When you say “behind parked cars” do you mean on the footpath?”

No. From left to right the cycleway works like this. Footpath, cycle lane, row of parked cars, road for traffic – then the same on the other side of the road but in reverse order. The gaps in parked cars for driveway entrances are literally the width of a driveway and to see down the cycle lane for an oncomming bike, especially the low one I mentioned, well you have to have the front of your car well into the cycle lane to actually achieve that. And that’s all a bit too late.

As an aside, it’s confusing for the elderly too. Spotted one car driving towards me on the wrong side of the road. I can only assume she thought the parked cars pointed towards her were on-coming traffic.
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March 1, 2016 4:41pm
Rich Prick

^^^
Forgot to mention the cycle lane is down at road level, not footpath level, which is quite relevant for visibility.
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March 1, 2016 4:48pm
Bob R

@ Fletch,

The National Black Republican Association & Mike Tyson endorsed Trump.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3290722/Now-Mike-Tyson-endorses-Donald-Trump-insists-Donald-isn-t-racist-won-t-position-Hillary-vs-Bernie.html
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March 1, 2016 4:55pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Here’s a cross-section view of the Island Bay cycle layout (2nd view down)….
But the plan doesn’t show the road camber… so bikes can be hidden from view if parked cars or stalled trolley buses are in the parked lane.
http://transportblog.co.nz/2015/06/25/island-bay-cycleway-safety-for-all-road-users/
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March 1, 2016 5:21pm
Jack5

Unrest continues to grow within the National Party organisation in young MP Todd Barclay’s Southland-Clutha electorate.

Now the party’s electorate chairman, Stuart Davie, has resigned.

This follows the early resignation of long-serving electorate workers in Gore and Queenstown.

If Winston Peters was a sharp as his followers think he is, then Winston would be on the plane to Invercargill tomorrow.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/77386997/national-party-cluthasouthland-chairman-stuart-davie-resigns
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March 1, 2016 6:01pm
Reid

A very well sourced article, which has recently appeared in The Wall Street Journal (attached below), shows the extent of the policy disarray in Washington following the US-Russian “cessation of hostilities” agreement.

It seems there has been a massive row.

The heads of the US military and the CIA are clearly furious at the way in which they feel the US has been humiliated, and in a series of angry meetings in the White House they have made their feelings known…

…The Wall Street Journal reports US officials saying that “neither (US Defence Secretary Ash) Carter nor Gen. Dunford had formally submitted recommendations to Mr. Obama” and the suggestions mentioned the article – stepping up arms supplies to the rebels, providing them with battlefield intelligence, or imposing further economic sanctions on Russia – hardly amount to practical recommendations Obama can use.

With much of Europe seething against the sanctions already in place, any idea of cranking the sanctions up further on the issue of Syria (of all things) is – as the article says US officials privately admit – a complete non-starter.

As for arms supplies to the rebels, Russian aircraft in Syria fly too high to be reached by the sort of man portable surface to air missiles (“MANPADS”) the article refers to, whilst the supply of heavier medium or long range surface to air missiles to the rebels that might actually cause problems for Russian aircraft, would be a massively controversial escalation and – for public opinion in the US and Europe – almost certainly an escalation too far…

…As for the suggestion the US provide the rebels with intelligence information, that would almost certainly lead to the Russians withdrawing from their information sharing agreement with the US military, since the Russians would not want to risk information they provided to the US military being shared by the US with the rebels.

Since the US relies on this agreement to co-ordinate its operations in Syria with the Russians, unless the US were prepared to risk a clash with the increasingly strong Russian force in Syria – risking World War III – it would have to cease its operations in Syria in order to avoid a clash with the Russians.

Since that is hardly what the US wants, the option of intelligence sharing with the rebels in any meaningful way is also simply a non-starter.

As the US hardliners undoubtedly know, the only thing that would be certain to change the situation in Syria in the rebels’ favour would be direct NATO military intervention on their behalf, which in order to be effective would have to involve the US itself.

Since that would again risk provoking World War III over an issue where most of the Western public supports Russia, that too is a non-starter.

The one suggestion that has been floated as a possible Plan B – the partition of Syria on sectarian lines – which we will doubtless be hearing much about in the coming weeks – is in reality also completely impractical.

…in the event the Syrian government succeeds in consolidating its control of the populated western coastal region of Syria – where all Syria’s big cities are located – the only territory left in Syria for a Sunni state would be the desert.

Whilst territorially speaking this is a very large area, it is one which is also sparsely populated, is not self-sustaining and which has no access to the sea. A sectarian Sunni state established on this territory would be militarily undefendable and economically completely unviable.

The Syrian government would be determined to regain control of this territory once it had fully re-established and consolidated itself – and it would have international law on its side. With far greater resources at its disposal, and with the backing of Iran and Russia, the Syrian government would have no difficulty reconquering this territory unless the US and NATO were prepared to send ground troops into this territory to defend it.

The idea of planting a permanent US or NATO garrison in western Syria to defend what would be an economically unviable militant jihadi micro pseudo state – in effect the Islamic State under a new name – is a fantasy – as is any idea the US and the West would be prepared to invest the huge sums needed to sustain it.

The US and European public would never agree to such a thing, especially as it would be strongly opposed by Arab opinion, which would be horrified at the sight of the great Western powers once again carving up Arab lands as they did during the colonial era and when Israel was created.

The fact the key regional powers Iran and Iraq would also vigorously oppose such a partition plan, as would the big non-Western powers like China, India and Russia, and that such a plan would almost certainly fail to attract the support of the wider international community or of the United Nations, all but settles the issue.

Though this plan will no doubt find its supporters in the Western media, in reality it does not belong within the world of practical politics…

…There are however two further points to make about The Wall Street Journal article.

The first is a minor one, which with the US Presidential election pending is now of mainly historical interest.

It is that Obama has gone to ground.

Though the article does not say so, it is clear from its contents that he was not physically present at the meetings in the White House where the hardliners made known their views.

Instead of explaining – and defending – his policy in person to the hardliners, Obama has chosen to hide behind others – in this case his Secretary of State John Kerry, who has been left to take the heat for his boss.

Where Harry Truman famously said the buck stopped with him, Obama makes sure it stops with someone else.

The second point is more important, and it is about the future

It is that the anger the hardliners feel does not promise well, and is absolutely not a cause for rejoicing, and certainly not for gloating. On the contrary, it is a cause for foreboding and for worry about the future.

Far from accepting their defeat, on past experience the hardliners will now be looking for ways to get even with Russia.

The fact they cannot do it in Syria will not hold them back, any more than failure in Vietnam in the 1970s held an earlier generation of US hardliners back.

What happened then was that the hardliners “avenged” the US’s defeat in Vietnam by setting Afghanistan on fire – with catastrophic consequences for the whole world including the US.

The fact Afghanistan turned out a disaster will however hardly deter the hardliners of today from acting in the same way. If there is one constant in US foreign policy it is that when it comes to disasters it is the wrong lessons that always get learnt.

Far from being a factor in improving relations between the US and Russia, the fact the US feels humiliated in Syria is going to make relations between the two countries even worse than they already are, and is storing up more problems for the future…

Murderous neocon bastards, aren’t they. They have no problems with destroying a whole country, wrecking and destroying millions and millions of lives and then when someone dares to oppose them, they cast around for the next big thing, knowing that the useless US press, the idiot US taxpayer and the Israel-first US political class will NEVER hold them accountable, for anything.

This is the world we live in, while the sheeple go:

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Aren’t sheeple stoooooooooooooooooooooooooooopid.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/syrian-peace-plan-us-seethes-its-humiliation-russia/ri13097
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March 1, 2016 6:04pm
Reid

Army’s Delta Force begins to target ISIS in Iraq
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/29/politics/pentagon-army-target-isis-iraq/index.html

Too bad it probably won’t target these ISIS leaders.
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March 1, 2016 6:20pm
Gabby

Toddy Baccy can’t break the habit of stubbing out his gaspers in his minions’ palms. They don’t like it.
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March 1, 2016 6:58pm
Shawn Herles

Reid exposed!

http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2010/tin%20foil%20hat.jpg
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March 1, 2016 7:15pm
nasska

Not even a nibble so far Shawn. 🙂
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March 1, 2016 7:21pm
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

Featured comment @NBR: I will pay Auckland Council rates when ‘the books’ are open. When I’m Auckland Mayor – ‘the books’ WILL be open. Kind regards, Penny Bright
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Looks like Penny has paid for NBR subscription and is now enlightening the readers at NBR….will no doubt boost traffic in their comment section, while no doubt shedding subscribers !
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March 1, 2016 7:24pm
Captain Mainwaring

@Jack5 6.01
Sounds like Mr. English needs to be on the plane tomorrow to put a cork on this.
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March 1, 2016 7:36pm
Captain Mainwaring

Fuck Gobby, can’t you come up with something half-way intelligent.
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March 1, 2016 7:38pm
Captain Mainwaring

“Featured comment @NBR: I will pay Auckland Council rates when ‘the books’ are open. When I’m Auckland Mayor – ‘the books’ WILL be open. Kind regards, Penny Bright”

But Penny, you will NEVER be Auckland Mayor. Does this mean you will NEVER pay your rates? I don’t think so. The arrears, plus the legal costs, will come out of the sale of your dump. Fortunately the land is sits on keeps on appreciating so the council will at least get something, even if the rest of it is just firewood.

And you’ve been VERY quiet today. Are you in serious discussions with your legal advisers? Or the Councils?
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March 1, 2016 7:44pm
Scott Chris

Excellent expose of Donald Trump by lefty John Oliver. Trump fans watch it if you got the guts:

#MAKEDONALDDRUMPFAGAIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ
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March 1, 2016 7:48pm
Reid

Excellent expose of Donald Trump

Child’s play compared to these Scott. Not just the headliner but look through the archives.

http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.nz/

As I have explained I don’t know how many times, politics is a punch and judy show. Trump is the foil to Hellary and the way it’s going either Trump will have a “massive scandal” “revealed” by the MSM at the last minute or he’ll actually win.

Either way, Israel wins.

And that’s the point of US politics, It has been for decades. It’s why Kennedy was killed and so it continues.

Morons hallucinate: that means I’m saying it’s ALL about Israel.

No, of course not.

It’s about lots of things.

Always has been, always will be.

But of course, if you’re so superficial and ignorant you only look at the cheering flags, you never even noticed that bit playing out over the last seven years, did you.

You watch.

Both are bad.

Question is: who’s least worst?

Hard decision.

Very, very, very hard decision.
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March 1, 2016 8:05pm
Tauhei Notts

Hey, it’s General Debate so I am allowed to say this.
There is a movie on Rialto this evening at 11.05 p.m. that is really worth putting on Mysky.
It is called “Blue is the Warmest Colour”.
If down ticks occur after 12.30 a.m. I promise that I will never ever recommend another movie on this site. I have never ever seen another movie that warrants such a recommendation. Okay, it’s Frog with English subtitles, but the camera work is eye catching.
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March 1, 2016 8:11pm
Shawn Herles

Huh, I didn’t know Oliver was a Brit.

“Child’s play compared to these Scott. Not just the headliner but look through the archives.”

I did. Bloody hilarious! I especially liked, as in laughed my ass off, at the “Ted Cruz and the Jewish Gay Mafia!” comedy. 🙂

Reid you really shouldn’t encourage people to look at your web sites. It just exposes you as a gullible loon.
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March 1, 2016 8:13pm
Shawn Herles

” Okay, it’s Frog with English subtitles”

Nothing wrong with that. Some of my favorite films are frogs with English subtitles. Pretty much anything by Jean-Pierre Jeunet is worth watching.
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March 1, 2016 8:17pm
mikenmild

Tauhei
You should have mentioned the lesbian sex scenes for more upticks.
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March 1, 2016 8:19pm
Tauhei Notts

Mikenmild,
as I wrote, it is eye catching, but I did not wish to use vulgar terms as you do!!
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March 1, 2016 8:25pm
Andrei

Lesbian chick flicks – no thank you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuPX8mjeb-E
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March 1, 2016 8:29pm
Bob R

@ Scott Chris,

John Oliver is great. Trump is easily the best candidate though. Clinton is corrupt and beholden to oligarch donors (see Christopher Hitchen’s ‘No One Left To Lie To’). Nassim Nicholas Taleb predicts that Trump would actually be the most risk averse and pragmatic of the candidates.

As Steve Hsu notes, Trump is a lot smarter and thoughtful than his detractors appreciate.

“He talks specifically about analyzing downside risk (worst case scenarios) in the interview. He would stop the demonization of Putin and Russia. He is moderate to left on social issues. He has thought a lot about the risks of nuclear war (see interview).

The recent Obama/Hillary foreign policy has been a terrible failure in the middle east, Ukraine, and elsewhere. I don’t think Trump would have made those mistakes, which resulted from stupid idealism (same could be said of W and Iraq).

Business leaders can be fools just like politicians, but people who have built businesses have seen the direct consequences of their decisions, and generally tend to have a realistic view of how the world works.”

http://infoproc.blogspot.co.nz/2016/02/trump-on-trump.html#disqus_thread
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March 1, 2016 8:30pm
dad4justice

mm are H2 and Klarkula featured in the movie?
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March 1, 2016 8:32pm
stigie

Will you be featuring in Richie’s movie Dad..?
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March 1, 2016 8:34pm
AgentBallSack

mikenmild lesbian sex scenes is what got us to where we are tonight.
We should crowdfund the lezzys from Taranaki to go to Nepal. As long as they put on a skype show.
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March 1, 2016 8:35pm
AgentBallSack

For stephiebitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8ClOk4hzMg
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March 1, 2016 8:40pm
Awww C-mon

Decide to drop in again mad-dad… How is the business of fitting fat heifers into cute little pumps going for you?
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March 1, 2016 8:46pm
dad4justice

Oh gawd it didn’t take long before my no life fan club crawled out of its nest.
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March 1, 2016 8:50pm
Awww C-mon

Chirp chirp. Feed us on your greatness and wisdom mr. Justice
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March 1, 2016 8:56pm
stigie

Just gave you an uptick Dad for showing up tonight ole chap !~
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March 1, 2016 8:56pm
Viking2

The first two months of the year have been a horrific time on the roads, with deaths well up on the same time last year.

A total of 63 people were confirmed dead from 53 different fatal crashes – an average of almost one a day – in January and February.

It’s the deadliest start to the year since 2010, when 68 people died during the same months.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/77443316/late-summer-road-toll-highest-in-six-years
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March 1, 2016 9:13pm
starboard

wheres that pillow biter scottchris..show yrself nancy..
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March 1, 2016 9:15pm
Awww C-mon

Viking, add that poor bastard from the Naki to the list, might not of been injured in the crash but it surely killed him.
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March 1, 2016 9:17pm
Awww C-mon

Feeling frisky SB?
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March 1, 2016 9:18pm
stigie

Leave that frisky feeling till May if you can Starbored..?
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March 1, 2016 9:21pm
Awww C-mon

U r a sad mother fucker whoever down ticked my 9:17

Keen to explain why??
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March 1, 2016 9:32pm
Gabby

Fuck Cap’n Stainer, you reckon Bingles should tell the rest of the branch no more resignations, smoke their 20 a day and like it?
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March 1, 2016 9:33pm
starboard

May 4th men..all roads lead to love u longtime sexy man..
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March 1, 2016 9:38pm
Awww C-mon

Gobby you back with your witty nick names and intellectual commentary?
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March 1, 2016 9:39pm
Captain Mainwaring

“Viking2 (13,811 comments) says:
March 1st, 2016 at 9:13 pm
The first two months of the year have been a horrific time on the roads, with deaths well up on the same time last year.
A total of 63 people were confirmed dead from 53 different fatal crashes – an average of almost one a day – in January and February.
It’s the deadliest start to the year since 2010, when 68 people died during the same months.”
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So much for the reduction in the drink limit and the extended 4km/h speed tolerance.
What happens next?
Reduce the speed limit to 20km/h and have a man on a horse with a big red light in front of every car?
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March 1, 2016 9:43pm
Gabby

Who’s this Gobby character, Awwk Wawwwk? I was just chatting with Fuck Cap’n Stainer about living Ken doll Wee Toddy Baccy’s toxicity.
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March 1, 2016 9:55pm
Awww C-mon

You’re one fucked up cat Gobby

It seems an unwritten rule of KB not to have a whine at the down-tickers. Those sad fucks who can’t front up and explain why they disagree. Gotta say I don’t get it.

Keen to know what you disagree with in my 9:17
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March 1, 2016 10:02pm
Gabby

Speaking of sad fucks, why do you whinge about down ticks so much Awwk Wawwk? Are you paid by the tick or something? Fuck Cap’n Stainer doesn’t give a shit as far as I can tell.
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March 1, 2016 10:09pm
Left Right and Centre

General running . . .
The theory goes that you don’t run after a marathon. Or in this case a total of 55kms.
Next day . . . 10kms. Oh well – shows what I know. It can be done. Fairly sore and wooden to start off with and then the limbs loosen up sooner or later.

I can’t keep up with life – most of GD goes begging today – bugger.
I thought a classic KB issue would be Otaki (Otaki is it ?) College banning students from buying rubbish at the local NW during school hours. Hmmm. That would surely raise the ire of a few on here (raise the ire ? where did that come from ?).
Are they allowed to buy bread and milk ? Muesli bars ? Oats ? You know – anything with a food energy value will do the trick. Are they allowed to buy pies ? Seems messy to me once you start delving (delving – oh yeah) into the intricacies of which exact food items are ‘ok’ and which ‘aren’t’.

How about – just the fat kids aren’t allowed in the shop. There’s a measuring door – if they can’t fit through it – no dice. Set of scales. Caliper test. It would be like that moronic Biggest Loser crap. I lost enough weight to shop for crap at NW – happy days. They’re also going on about sugar rushes and up and down energy levels and a lot of that has been shown to be a load of old bollocks. Doesn’t stop me trying it before running – but it is all carbohydrate – the fave fuel for fisical frollicking. Farking food nazis. Seeing as NW are so socially responsible – I can’t wait until they stop using biscuits / chips / chocolate / ice cream / sweets / booze / soft drink as the endless leading specials in advertising. The reek of incredible hypocrisy is sickening.

Oh yeah – March 1 – it must be Easter – shops are loaded up with guess what ? Chocolate. Endless tinfoil wrapped chcoolate everywhere. Isn’t Easter in bloody April ? Hello ? Hey kids – look at all this chocolate you’re surrounded by for weeks on end before this non-event that we’re encouraged to eat lots of chocolate to mark. I’ll be waiting to see Otaki NW’s ‘eat in moderation’ size tiny chocolate Easter egg range. Maybe they could attach a little healthy eating food pyramid tag to them. Why stop there ? Do it with all of the high carb high fat fun foods. Maybe have a shop councillor hanging out in the biscuit aisle to ‘consult’ with ‘likely size customers’ who might ‘have a problem’. Who are these bloody drongos ? Honestly. Kiss my Burger Ring. Hypocritical morons.
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