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Steve (North Shore)

So she wants to use ‘other people’s money’ for herself yes?
And the stupid will give their vote in the Mayoral Elections. The fucking bludging never stops with these commie socialists
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March 19, 2016 4:12pm
RF

There are some really sick puppies over on the standard. After the Police destroyed the hard drives belonging to Rodent features the idiots over on the standard are lining up to wash his feet. Christ he will soon be nominated for saint hood. Obviously they do not go out into the real world very often.

Not sure how they call a slight rise in the polls a monumental event as they are still under 30.

Whale has a good name for Angry… Penis fingers. Everything he touches, he fucks up.
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March 19, 2016 4:31pm
stigie

Someone like the undernourished looking Hager can get someone to hack a computer and publish that hacked material and it’s all ok…?

That has me fucked, that now sets a precedent !~
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March 19, 2016 4:59pm
VicParking

Russia is broke.
Its used all its airforce ordinance and cruise missiles that were near or passed there used by date.
Now using up all is helcopter and artillery ordinance of the same ink.
Unlike the USA they also learnt a lesson from Afganistain (Vietnam) as to the “Cost” of wars you can not win.
They will not go far and just do something less expensive.
I cant see “peace” being their ultimate goal, the refugees/migrants crowding into and disabling Europe is to good to stop
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March 19, 2016 5:07pm
Nostradamus

Stigie:

I was intrigued to learn about the Folsom Street Fair (thanks to Andrei).

Do you think the Hagley Park crowd are adequately represented at this iconic event in (of all places) San Francisco? And maybe it’d be a good opportunity to get to the bottom (if you’ll excuse the pun) of whatever happened at LAX airport?
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March 19, 2016 5:10pm
Nostradamus

An amusing exchange between Gezza and UglyTruth at YourNZ:

Gezza:

I’ve found police cruiser video of the kids being evacuated at Sandy Hook too. He just didn’t look hard enough. And other photos and stuff showing it all really happened as well. I feel reluctant to mention it. It’s so embarrassing for him.

Ugly Truth:

“I’ve found police cruiser video of the kids being evacuated at Sandy Hook too.”

So why don’t you post a link to it? It makes it look like you’re lying again if you don’t.

Gezza:

Maybe tomorrow. I think you’ve embarrassed yourself enough today.

Hilarious!
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March 19, 2016 5:37pm
stigie

Nostra :-

I can only assume our good friend Dad will be writing on the alleged sordid affair that went on at LAX..?

Coming out soon, watch this space, he will say you saw it here first !~
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March 19, 2016 5:46pm
wikiriwhis business

Gordon Arnold

The drug giant seeking $30 million from the taxpayer for its cancer drug Keytruda paid less income tax in 2014 than Prime Minister John Key did on his salary.

Leisa Renwick, a melanoma sufferer who this month presented to Parliament a petition signed by 11,000 people demanding government funding for the drug, described the low tax bill as outrageous.
“SCREWS OUR PEOPLE” THEN HAS THE AUDACITY TO PAY NO TAX!
NAT PARTY FRIENDS – OBVIOUSLY!
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March 19, 2016 6:04pm
Nostradamus

Nostradamus at 11:05 am

So with that task done, the only entertainment available was to poke sticks at angry dogs and club seals – at least until Wiki-what’s-his-name pops in to tell us about this article – “Cancer drug giant’s tax bill less than PM’s – and have a general rant about evil capitalist corporations.

wikiriwhis business at 6:04 pm

The drug giant seeking $30 million from the taxpayer for its cancer drug Keytruda paid less income tax in 2014 than Prime Minister John Key did on his salary.

I knew Wiki-whatever wouldn’t let us down!
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March 19, 2016 6:07pm
Awww C-mon

If they were Nat party friends their drugs would have been bought already you fucking muppet!

FFS….

Edit, maybe their tax payment was so low Wiki because business expenses were high… paying off Liarbore to carry on the crusade
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March 19, 2016 6:08pm
wikiriwhis business

Gold cards are under attack from the Government again, writes Winston Peters.

“It shows yet again that this government has little respect for its older citizens.”
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March 19, 2016 6:23pm
wikiriwhis business

Gordon Arnold

Facebook:
“Facebook complies with New Zealand tax law, as we do in all countries where we operate.
We take tax obligations seriously and work closely with national tax authorities to comply with local law.”

Apple:
Acknowledged receipt of questions, said “We are unlikely to comment.”
Pepsi:
Did not reply.
SOME FIRMS ADMIT THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH WHAT NZ LAW ALLOWS THEM TO GET AWAY WITH
OTHER FIRMS, LOOKING AS “GUILTY AS HELL” MERELY SAY NOTHING! (ANYTHING ELSE MIGHT INCRIMINATE!)
8 -(( THE NATS ARE CORRUPT!!!
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March 19, 2016 6:24pm
Nostradamus

Wiki:

1. You’ve incorrectly identified the author as Gordon Arnold. The article was actually written by Matt Nippert with additional reporting by Nicholas Jones.

2. It’s good blog etiquette to link to the article you’re commenting on. You didn’t.

3. It’s also good blog etiquette to separately identify the article you’re commenting on and your comment. So, on this point, you correctly quoted the first two paragraphs and then, for whatever reason, engaged your “unhinged mode” and screamed:

“SCREWS OUR PEOPLE” THEN HAS THE AUDACITY TO PAY NO TAX!
NAT PARTY FRIENDS – OBVIOUSLY!

Once again, poor comprehension skills. The article doesn’t say that Merck, Sharp & Dohme pays no tax. They paid tax. And where’s your evidence that National offers special tax deals to selected recipients? Where’s your evidence that the IRD is controlled in that way by political masters?
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March 19, 2016 6:28pm
Awww C-mon

Wiki you fucking dick,

Those corporations you mention in your 6:24 are avoiding tax everywhere!! it is an issue, I agree, but not a National party issue you fucking dumbass

As for your 6:23…. Winnie complaining is not fucking news, don’t bother with a link, we all know he said it. Every day, Every week, Every year since Adam was a cowboy
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March 19, 2016 6:29pm
stephieboy

Nostradamus , thank you for that link where one Geeza takes it to the deluded Ugly Truth so very trying and vexing as it can be .
I have covered similar points some time ago about the Police video where some evacuating Adults and children can be actually readily be seen .

If you go to my post at 3.34 pm you can see what a real sad and sick scumbags Ugly Truth and his Sandy Hook wackos really are .
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March 19, 2016 6:31pm
wikiriwhis business

IRD only chases the small mice – leaves the BIG RATS!
The Rats are mates with the Nats!!!
This must be what is meant by BRIBERY & CORRUPTION! 8 -((

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11608119
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March 19, 2016 6:31pm
Manolo

Trump and Kelly. He’ll lose the battle.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GOP_2016_TRUMP_FOX?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-03-18-20-59-03

“Donald Trump’s vitriolic attacks against Megyn Kelly and his extreme, sick obsession with her is beneath the dignity of a presidential candidate who wants to occupy the highest office in the land,” the network said in a statement Friday evening.
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March 19, 2016 6:33pm
Manolo

A dissenting view:
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/videos/2016-03-18/faber-i-d-vote-for-trump-clinton-will-destroy-world
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March 19, 2016 6:35pm
wikiriwhis business

“The article doesn’t say that Merck, Sharp & Dohme pays no tax. They paid tax. And where’s your evidence that National offers special tax deals to selected recipients? Where’s your evidence that the IRD is controlled in that way by political masters?”

Yet no minister will front up and comment.

Guilt in a court of law
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March 19, 2016 6:40pm
Nostradamus

Stephieboy:

Gezza and UglyTruth have been arguing over three threads:

Open forum – Thursday
Open forum – Friday
Open forum – Saturday

It’s such a one-sided affair that, if it were a UFC fight, the referee would have stopped the fight a long time ago. UglyTruth just isn’t up to it!
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March 19, 2016 6:40pm
Nostradamus

Wiki-thing:

Yet no minister will front up and comment.

I didn’t ask for a minister to front up and comment. I asked for your evidence that:
– National offers special tax deals to selected recipients
– the IRD is controlled in that way by political masters.

I doubt you have any such evidence.
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March 19, 2016 6:42pm
Awww C-mon

“Guilt in a court of law”

What. The. Fuck.
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March 19, 2016 6:43pm
wikiriwhis business

The Economy Hub: Big tax changes coming

Business is facing change on a scale it hasn’t seen since the 1980s as multi-nationals are targeted with new tax rules, says EY Partner Aaron Quintal.

“This is radical change that hasn’t been appreciated,” he told The Economy Hub show. “The fact that the public is now interested in tax has changed the political momentum around the world.”

OECD moves to reach multi-lateral agreement on corporate profit shifting were coming and were going to be big, he said.

The difficult question was working out where the value was added in the global corporate model.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11607862

Policing the corporates and about time
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March 19, 2016 6:46pm
stephieboy

Manolo , from your link ,

GOP Strategist Ed Goeas: Trump’s Doing Damage to Himself,

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/videos/2016-03-18/gop-strategist-ed-goeas-trump-s-doing-damage-to-himself

Trump and Kelly ?Now that won’t stop the Arizona Sheriff now will it ?
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March 19, 2016 6:47pm
Nostradamus

Speaking of tax, wikiriwhis business, do you pay personal income tax? Are you a bludger? Or (despite all indications to the contrary) do you have a job?
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March 19, 2016 6:48pm
publicwatchdog

Some Kiwibloggers have been missing me – how sweet!

Well folks – on 31 March 2016 the Auckland Council Governing Body will be voting on whether Auckland Council should withdraw its membership of the NZ Property Council.

In my view, it is a serious ‘conflict of interest’ for Auckland Council to be a member of the NZ Property Council.

(Who actually represents Auckland Council at meetings of the NZ Property Council?

To whom do they report back?

Where are the ‘minutes’?

Where are the ‘boundaries’ – between ‘public’ and property developers?)

(There is an interesting story on this matter in the current print version of the NBR).

As an Auckland Mayoral candidate I am absolutely opposed to Auckland Council and Auckland Council Controlled Organisations (CCOs) being members of private sector lobby groups such as the NZ Property Council AND the Committee for Auckland.

Penny Bright
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March 19, 2016 6:54pm
Nostradamus

Penny:

Is it true that you were arrested at the Pasifika Festival for making a nuisance of yourself?

renderer (432 comments) says:
March 13th, 2016 at 8:16 pm

Oh dear the Auckland Mayoral candidate was arrested for trespass at the Pasifika Festival in Western Springs. Seems she was wearing her John Key face masks there uninvited.

Is this part of your mayoral campaign strategy?
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March 19, 2016 6:57pm
nasska

…..”Some Kiwibloggers have been missing me – how sweet!”…..

Fear not. They’re currently being sectioned under the Mental Health Act.
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March 19, 2016 6:57pm
Manolo

No. She’ll be shielded all the way: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35722882

Could Hillary Clinton’s handling of classified information while secretary of state sink her presidential hopes?

It’s a question that has dogged her campaign for over a year – but opinions are divided over whether the allegations made against her constitute a crime or are just the latest partisan sideshow.

Perhaps the best way to look at the implications of her case is by considering the context of another high-profile legal drama involving classified documents that was recently resolved – that of former CIA director David Petraeus.
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March 19, 2016 7:01pm
Nostradamus

Penny:

Steve (North Shore) (4,819 comments) says:
March 12th, 2016 at 4:42 pm

At Pasifika Festival today. Some mad person making a general nuisance out of themselves impersonating John Key – wonder who it was?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2qqjevq9dyw6xh9/Penny%20Bright%202.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4pns0s35rpdrfkj/Penny%20Bright%201.jpg?dl=0

Seriously mentally challenged

So Steve spotted you there, apparently, and Renderer says that you were arrested. Any comments?
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March 19, 2016 7:06pm
Awww C-mon

It was too good to be true…

Hey Penny, how is the treatment for the kleptomania?
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March 19, 2016 7:07pm
nasska

Links are not working Nostra,
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March 19, 2016 7:09pm
wikiriwhis business

TPPA gives them (Big Pharma) even more profit & for longer, wtf?
Why did the Government extend patents in the TPPA?
Why is the Government helping multinational corporations and not helping the people?
Who does the Government represent now a days?

Kalydeco a drug that treats a rare form of cystic fibrosis in patients ages 6 years and older priced at a $300,000 a year.
Acthar, a drug that treats treat seizures in infants under 2-years-old priced at a $300,000 a year.
Kadcyla, a breast cancer drug that costs $94,000 for a year.
Zydelig, a leukemia drug, made by Gilead the (Hep C drug maker) that costs $57,755 a year.
Hetlioz, a drug that treats non-24 sleep disorder—a problem affecting blind people whose circadian rhythm is off—that costs $60,000 per year.
Xyrem, a drug that treats narcolepsy for $35,000 per year.
Abilify, a psychiatric drug usually added on to another expensive psychiatric drug, that costs $17, 316 year.
Praluent, a biologic to lower cholesterol expected to cost over $14,600 a year.

There are efforts to stop the apparent pharmaceutical industry profiteering and opportunism like pending state bills to force drug makers to reveal their true costs and allow insurers to refuse payment. The White House is also launching a new Medicare payment system to stop the incentives for a doctor to use a $2,000 drug when a $50 drug would do. Currently, if doctors buy drugs themselves and administer them in the office, Medicare pays them back with a six percent bonus to cover administrative costs. Under the new program, “Doctors who prescribe a lot of newer, more expensive drugs will earn less than they used to,” notes The New York Times, as will Pharma. The move was immediately termed “another troubling example of unelected bureaucrats making decisions behind closed doors,” by Pharma-friendly lawmakers. How dare the government protect our tax dollars?

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/ten-huge-drug-ripoffs-that-big-pharma-is-campaigning-to-continue/#.Vuy-F6hd9V8.facebook
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March 19, 2016 7:10pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

I bolded Penny’s name but it stuffs up the link.

So here they are again:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2qqjevq9dyw6xh9/Penny%20Bright%202.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4pns0s35rpdrfkj/Penny%20Bright%201.jpg?dl=0
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March 19, 2016 7:13pm
nasska

The demented watchdog is lapsing into fast tracked senility Nostra. Protest is protest but that crap is puerile beyond belief.

Kids in the sandpit of the local kindy could come up with better.
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March 19, 2016 7:17pm
Rachael Membery

Aahh contra proferentum/em that on which the Treaty of Waitangi relies, I confess to preferring the um.
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March 19, 2016 7:20pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

I’m actually very disappointed with Steve (North Shore). He was there. The least he could’ve done for us to post a video recording of the hysterical scenes when the ~~John Key impersonator~~ Penny was arrested!
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March 19, 2016 7:20pm
V

https://www.facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10153370698696121

Romney committing suicide again. Has his arse handed to him in the comments.
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March 19, 2016 7:37pm
Griff

The least he could’ve done for us to post a video recording of the hysterical scenes

meh.
One video exists of penny screaming as the boys in blue drag her off that’s enough for any one.
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March 19, 2016 7:56pm
alex Masterley

Evening all.
Been on the water doing sailing stuff and having a few carlsbergs to rehydrate.
The aussie sailors are hiding because of last night. both the black caps and highlanders winning and until one nanno second ago the crusaders being behind against one of the ore useless teams in the super what ever.
Some thoughts.
Penny B leading with her chin.
Ugly truth – a fine example of the dangers of putting an idiot in front of a computer.
Hager well if it’s ok to steal from the websites of other people and use the results fro profit it is open season on he and his sycophants.
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March 19, 2016 7:58pm
Don the Kiwi

pubicwatchbitch
March 19th, 2016 at 6:54 pm
Some Kiwibloggers have been missing me – how sweet!
Well folks – on 31 March 2016 the Auckland Council Governing Body will be voting on whether Auckland Council should withdraw its membership of the NZ Property Council.

Wrong on two counts halfpenny.

Everyone misses you like a headache – a hole in the head.
Couldn’t give a shit about the ACC, and neither should you – no one really gives a shit about what you think.

Oh, and BTW – pay your fecking rates, you bludger.
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March 19, 2016 8:31pm
UglyTruth

I confess to preferring the um.

Did you go to Mark Twain’s school, Rachel?
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March 19, 2016 8:58pm
Rachael Membery

UglyTruth (6,682 comments) says:

March 19th, 2016 at 8:58 pm

Rachael, but not unless he lectured at Waikato University lol, what makes you prefer proferentem? Clearly as there is the option it is preference? Actually I also prefer judgment to judgement.
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March 19, 2016 9:05pm
Northshoredoc

penny Bright = a complete nut job and example of narcissistic personality disorder.
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March 19, 2016 9:07pm
UglyTruth

Ugly Truth, focus and account for the whereabouts of those children and teachers who died at sandy Hook . Once accounted for then when we can begin to take your claims seriously .

Wow, wanting to know the whereabouts of the dead and using royal “we”.

And 11 upticks,

Seriously, WTF?
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March 19, 2016 9:07pm
Manolo

The rate bludger is among the biggest parasites I have ever seen. Should be deported with her benefactor, the German crook KDC.
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March 19, 2016 9:15pm
Captain Mainwaring

“Some Kiwibloggers have been missing me – how sweet!”

I haven’t been missing you, you delusional old bat.
In fact Kiwiblog’s been a positive pleasure without your diarrhoea all over the place.
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March 19, 2016 9:18pm
UglyTruth

@Rachael

Yes, there’s some variance with the vowels.

Verba fortius accipientur contra proferentum.
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March 19, 2016 9:20pm
Awww C-mon

“Verba fortius accipientur contra proferentum.”

Roughly translates to ” I use Latin to sound smart but really, I’m as thick as pigshit”
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March 19, 2016 9:31pm
UglyTruth

Liars guild.

LOL
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March 19, 2016 9:37pm
stephieboy

Ugly Truth, I think the use of the” royal” ” we” is highly appropriate . I think any rational or sane person on KB and elsewhere , other than me , would like to see you try to account for the teachers and children who were cold bloodily shot dead at Sandy Hook by Adam Lanza with his AK 15 .

BTW the redacted police dash cam video that shows contrary to Sandy Hook Conspiracy claims children being escorted from the NE Corner of the elementary school car park .
Scroll to the bottoms with the 7min video where children can be seen escorted from the car park left hand corner .

http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.co.nz/2014/07/sandy-hook-evacuation-photos-hundreds.html
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March 19, 2016 10:08pm
Griff

I think any rational or sane person on KB and elsewhere would simple refuse to debate with wugly as he is a few cans short of a six pack and also lacks the plastic thingy that holds them together.
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March 19, 2016 10:13pm
Nostradamus

Griff:

I find it amusing that UglyTruth turns up and calls people fools, fuckwits and cocks – oh yes, and liars, too.

It suggests that UglyTruth has a personal inferiority complex. Black’s Law Dictionary can’t help him with that. It also makes it easy to see why a judge lost patience with him and had him locked up. Black’s Law Dictionary can’t help him with that either.
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March 19, 2016 10:47pm
Rachael Membery

UglyTruth (6,685 comments) says:

March 19th, 2016 at 8:58 pm

Do you think that it is a case of American Latin or English Latin? 😉
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March 19, 2016 10:59pm
Rachael Membery

UglyTruth (6,685 comments) says:

March 19th, 2016 at 8:58 pm

Butterworths 2005, 6th Edition, Spiller agrees with your spelling, still looks funny to me.

Spiller has it as “Verba chartarum fortius accipientur contra proferentem.”
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March 19, 2016 11:11pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Some latin nouns take the accusative case following a preposition.
Hence contra proferentem. (Third declension, accusative).6
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March 20, 2016 12:15am
Left Right and Centre

>>

The research, published on Monday in the journal Nature, focuses on hominins from the Sima de los Huesos (“pit of bones”) site in Spain.

In the coming week, Kiwiblog is due to release new research revealing valuable insights focusing on ad hominem attacks.

>>

Not sure how they call a slight rise in the polls a monumental event as they are still under 30.
Whale has a good name for Angry… Penis fingers. Everything he touches, he fucks up

That’s not bad. >> Uggers – hahahaha – what a total dick. Getting busted using the latin cluelessly – arguing semantics about opinions. File under cannot be saved ever.

>> some rugby competition. I turned on peasantvision two week ago to see an airhead official look at a replay of a ball hitting a player’s boot – then decide it was foul play – award penalty try and give player yellow card. What a fucking joke. That could ruin the whole thing and here’s why; just *knowing* that a retarded fool moron out of his depth could do that to a game, eh ? Even at kick-off – 0-0. Gee – it’s that ref again. It could happen again. That’s a nice thought swirling at the back of the brain. He’s got a video replay – everyone is flabbergasted. It’s a replay – slow motion – whatever you want. How do you get that wrong ? It wasn’t marginal. It was bloody obvious. How on earth ? It wasn’t a mess – incredible stupidity. You’d have to at least call it 50 / 50 could be deliberate attempt to kick the ball illegally or not. Nope – it must’ve been foul play. If you can’t tell from a damn replay – then even if it was foul play – bad luck. What a mickey mouse load of bollocks. Dropkicks. He’s *got the actual benefit of hindsight* – hel-loooooo ?? 20/20 !!
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March 20, 2016 1:41am
Manolo

The campaign goes on:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/border-patrol-union-trump-is-the-only-candidate-to-support-agents/article/2586274

The largest U.S. Border Patrol union local is praising Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump for being the “only candidate” to support their tough mission, an almost endorsement that is the latest boost for the front runner’s campaign.
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March 20, 2016 5:48am
Manolo

A nightmare for stephieboy:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/273626-the-chaos-scenario-for-democrats

It’s the scenario that Republicans dream of and Democrats believe is all but impossible: Hillary Clinton being forced to drop out of the presidential race due to criminal charges over her email server.

Any bombshell findings in the FBI’s investigation of Clinton could plunge the Democratic race into chaos.
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March 20, 2016 5:51am
UglyTruth

Uggers – hahahaha – what a total dick. Getting busted using the latin cluelessly – arguing semantics about opinions.

Left Right and Centre, are you a liar like Nosty and Aww Cmon or just a complete fuckwit?

Contra proferentem is most common applied in contracts, by can be applied to any ambiguous statement.

Nosty’s argument that it can’t be applied here is special pleading.
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March 20, 2016 10:28am
Rachael Membery

Maggy Wassilieff (2,983 comments) says:

March 20th, 2016 at 12:15 am

Thanks, lol the subtleties only known to those who learned Latin, as opposed to those of us that learned phrases as they applied to concepts of law.
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