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Chuck Bird

National is happy to lie about domestic violence to attract the female vote.

Radio NZ Careless about Domestic Violence Figures

The Broadcasting Standards Authority (BSA) has upheld a complaint that Radio NZ broadcast incorrect statistics about family violence deaths. The incorrect figures claimed that more than twice as many women than men are being killed by family members in New Zealand. Authoritative figures show that almost as many men are killed as women.

Radio NZ relied on old figures published by the Ministry for Social Development that were unreferenced as to their origin. The BSA found that Radio NZ did not take reasonable efforts to ensure their broadcast was accurate. The BSA noted that Radio NZ also ignored a listener’s efforts to point out the figures were wrong.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1603/S00113/radio-nz-careless-about-domestic-violence-figures.htm
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March 18, 2016 8:04am
Manolo

The incompetent supports the liar:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-is-increasingly-involved-in-the-2016-presidential-campaign/2016/03/17/0f76e0cc-eb13-11e5-b0fd-073d5930a7b7_story.html

As Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton begin to tighten their grips on their respective party nominations, President Obama is plunging into the campaign fray, not only to help Democrats retain the White House but in defense of his own legacy in a political climate dominated by Trump.
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March 18, 2016 8:06am
Chuck Bird

Do judges not realize the people who view kiddie porn are aiding and abetting the sexual abuse of children? Why should people with highly paid jobs be treated differently than the unskilled.

Judges ‘living on planet dumb arse’ – Louise Nicholas

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11607445
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March 18, 2016 8:09am
flipper

The best so far….

Scroll past the intro pix and play the video. Priceless, and a taste of what is to come in a Trump v Clinton contest. .

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-ad-uses-footage-of-clinton-barking-like-a-dog-2016-03-16
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March 18, 2016 8:13am
Keeping Stock

Even entrenched lefties like Toby Manhire are poking borax at Labour and Little:

To be stuck defending itself against charges of Muldoonism and targeting Asian chefs can’t be much fun for Labour, especially in the week after they enjoyed a big success in getting the Government to do away with zero-hours contracts.

In that spirit, however, where were they this week on revelations Bunnings Warehouse is paying “community group” workers below the minimum wage. As far as I could see, by lunchtime yesterday, no one from Labour had said a word on the matter.

The “ethnic chef” kerfuffle, coming in the wake of the Auckland property Chinese-names stunt – which chief architect Phil Twyford last week conceded to the Politik website was “a less than masterful piece of political communication” – is guaranteed to light the blue touch paper. What are they playing at?

Some have said this is more dog-whistling, Labour manoeuvring into NZ First territory. But it is probably nothing so strategically sophisticated. They don’t look like Winston, nor like Muldoon; they just look a bit lost. For the time being, Labour still come across as the party barking at every passing car, making it up as they go along.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11607381

Andrew Little must be feeling a bit like Neville No-Mates at the moment. Labour’s poll ratings are heading south at an alarming rate, his party is bereft of coherent policy ideas, and now the media sense blood in the water. Once the sharks start circling, it’s only a matter of time; queue the Jaws music…
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March 18, 2016 8:14am
Happychappy

Labour in denial,the press has manipulated what Andrew Little says comes from his ardent supporters.How can they for nine years and before National came to power send Mike Williams and Pete Hodgson to Australia dig dirt on John Key,their supporters and MPs make stories up about his financial dealings in the banking sector and now cry foul for what is happening to the Labour Leader through his own lack of knowledge in the finance sector.Karma is great leveler
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March 18, 2016 8:15am
mikenmild

flipper
I’m already imagining some of the ads that will play about Trump. Voiceovers from his chats where he speculated with Howard Stern about which women he’d be prepared to fuck combined with the wealth of ludicrous images he has provided over the years…
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March 18, 2016 8:16am
Keeping Stock

I read the headline Chuck. Then I read PAST the headline, and noted the judge’s comments that the counsel for the prosecution had failed to provide evidence contradicting that of the defence. So this case may not be as simple as the headline makes it sound.

Having said that however, there is never a justification for the downloading and possession of kiddie porn.
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March 18, 2016 8:17am
flipper

Milkymikld…
You are just sick. A very bad case of TDS.
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March 18, 2016 8:20am
Scott Chris

mikenmild (20,216 comments) says:
March 18th, 2016 at 8:16 am
flipper
I’m already imagining some of the ads that will play about Trump. Voiceovers from his chats where he speculated with Howard Stern about which women he’d be prepared to fuck combined with the wealth of ludicrous images he has provided over the years…

The kind of thing that seems to attract his supporters… (go figure (fucking morons))

Best way to attack Drumpf is to get him to reveal his tax record imo. Why won’t he reveal it? Is he not worth what he says he’s worth? Does he pay fuck all tax?
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March 18, 2016 8:23am
EAD

With the MSM and SJWs like Scrotchchris and Mikemild, launching non-stop verbal and increasingly physical attacks against you and your supporters, here are some words of advice for the Donald – “Don’t back down, do not equivocate”:

http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/a-word-of-advice-for-donald.html?m=0
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March 18, 2016 8:24am
alloytoo

What I find interesting about Donald is that apparently he’s spending far less than his competitors and has a far smaller team.

Seems to me Donald is getting much for vote for his bang.
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March 18, 2016 8:33am
tom hunter

… apparently he’s spending far less than his competitors and has a far smaller team.
Two billion dollars of free media apparently.

For that to continue Trump has to maintain his pace of endless outrageous Tweets and statements that capture the 24-48 news cycle. Can that continue when the MSM is dealing with him vs Hillary rather than him vs other Republicans?
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March 18, 2016 8:47am
stephieboy

EAD, Donald – “Don’t back down, do not equivocate”: ? . Is it in fact much more than that as with your conspiracy theories like the holocaust which is simply a denial reality .

BTW I caught that interview with Hitler’s barber. When he stated that Hitter was a very nice amiable chap I wondered if he ever attended his Führer ‘s political rallies ?

I thought also the last thing Hitler would want to discuss with his hairdresser is his political and battle plans let alone what he had in mind for the Jews.
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March 18, 2016 8:53am
Manolo

The US market looks up: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-17/the-dow-is-now-positive-for-the-year
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March 18, 2016 8:55am
Manolo

Another Muslim and progressive, stephieboy, adds his name to the list of people linking Trump to Hitler.
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March 18, 2016 8:56am
kowtow

“………combined with the wealth of ludicrous images he has provided over the years….”

The media are doing that already , regularly choosing the most unflattering photos to portray Trump. Contrast that with the choice of photos used for the Messiah , doing their utmost to make him appear statesmanlike when he is anything but.

Talking of the lying media ,all they seem interested in in the UK budget news is the proposed sugar tax, no discussion of how the budget fails to address Britains’ hopeless indebtedness.
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March 18, 2016 8:57am
mikenmild

Manolo
Trump is no Hitler: he prefers Mussolini:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/703900742961270784

Yes, I know, it was a Gawker trap. Trump still fell for it: ‘Il Duce’ handle and all.
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March 18, 2016 8:59am
lastmanstanding

The MSM and the GOP grandees don’t get it that the people are sick of being told who to vote for by the MSM and sick of being lied to be the pollies.

IMHO Trump is merely a manifestation of a people who have said enough is enough we aint gonna put up with any more crap and Trump is the vehicle for their protest.

Both the MSM and the GOP grandees have bought this upon themselves by the arrogant behavior.

I suspect the movement will spread to other democracies as more citizens come to understand how they have been suckered by these ferals.
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March 18, 2016 9:00am
tom hunter

BTW – I noted some Trump worshipper the other day jumping up and down about Fox News’s “garbage” coverage of Trump. As I’ve said before I don’t watch Fox (or most any broadcast or cable TV nowdays), but anybody who thinks Fox has been opposed to Trump needs to read Fox: Full time Enablers of Trump.

The article goes through the lengthy list of Fox News hosts and shows the amount of coverage they’ve given Trump. Here’s just a sample:

Trump’s new 30-second spot, released Monday morning, was played in its entirety 40 times on the cable news networks between Monday and Tuesday morning, according to POLITICO’s count. Using hour-by-hour prices provided by ad tracking firms for 30-second ads on CNN, Fox News and MSNBC, POLITICO estimated that the 40 airings would have cost Trump $330,000.
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MSNBC and Fox News each played the ad 14 times in its entirety between Monday and Tuesday morning. CNN played the ad 12 times in the same time period. On Fox, which dominates the cable ratings, that would amount to about $200,000 in free ad time. The ad, if aired in full during the morning shows and nightly newscasts, would have cost hundreds of thousands more.

“I’ve spent zero on advertising because you and Fox and all of the others — I won’t mention names, but every other network, I mean they cover me a lot, to put it mildly,” he told Fox News host Neil Cavuto in October. “And in covering me, it’s almost like if I put ads in on top of the program, it would be too much. It would be too much Trump.”

As the article points out, hosts Hannity and Bill O’Reilly are the two main culprits, but there are others who have also taken to defending everything Trump says – to the sarcastic disgust of a few holdouts like Greg Gutfeld:

The best part was watching Hannity, who has been a fixture in Republican (not conservative) circles for the last 20 years, talk about “the establishment” and the “ruling class” as if he was only hatched in June of 2015 as a populist. Trump’s appearances on Hannity’s show became so common, people had betting pools on how many times per week Trump would appear.
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What’s more hilarious, is Trump would actually complain about Fox News and in fact, at one point, boycotted the network for several weeks.

Did that help? Not at all. Fox News welcomed him back like the mother who insists her crack addicted son who just murdered three people in cold blood is a “good boy.”
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March 18, 2016 9:00am
lastmanstanding

On the sugar tax. Imagine this. A burglary happens in your street. The Police cant be bothered trying to find out who did it. So they arrest you an innocent person and lock you up saying “someone has to pay”.

But I suspect the irony and connection to be lost on the Left that now includes the Tory government.
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March 18, 2016 9:02am
mikenmild

kowtow
With that hair and complexion, the media don’t exactly need to try hard to capture unflattering pictures of Trump. He’s one very ugly customer.
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March 18, 2016 9:03am
stephieboy

Manolo, the US market looks up ? Now how could that ever be under T”he Kenyan’s “watch ?

If you read my post more carefully you will see I was referring to a post by EAD with a link to an interview by a US Nuremberg Judge with Hitler’s hairdresser.

No I don’t think Trump is comparable to Hitler but I think e.g George Wallace and Benito Mussolini is more helpful and interesting .
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March 18, 2016 9:05am
mikenmild

Nice tom:

Fox News welcomed him back like the mother who insists her crack addicted son who just murdered three people in cold blood is a “good boy.”

The more Trump attacks the media; the more coverage they give him. It’s some variant of Stockholm Syndrome.
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March 18, 2016 9:06am
Ed Snack

If Trump is to be targeted over his taxes (and there may well be some interesting entries in there), that certainly opens up the possibility that the tax records and in fact the general accounting records for the Clinton Foundation should come under similar scrutiny, and oh boy are there likely to be some “interesting” little nuggets in there. Why hasn’t it been more widely reported upon that the Foundation has wrongly declared many millions in “donations” from foreigners (in fact it apparently forgot to declare them at all) over a number of years. It is to restate it’s declarations from 2011 onwards. And what about Hillary’s actions with regard to Laureate Education, Bill was paid $16.5 Million over 4 years as “Honorary” Chancellor, one wonders what sort of return Laureate expected for that largesse.

Trump may well be vulnerable (if enough of his potential supporters care) on tax grounds, but there’s enough skeletons in the Clinton closet to staff a myriad of horror movies sets.

Not that I mind Trump being undermined, my personal opinion is that he’s a massive egomaniac and a borderline conman who is doing a very clever selling and positioning number on a disillusioned populace. As such he follows the previous general election winner who carried off the same trick; there’s a surprising number of parallels between Trump and Obama. But if I had to chose between Trump and Clinton, I’d hold my nose awful hard and vote for Trump; entrenching corruption and a contempt for the rule of law by electing Hillary Clinton goes a step too far for me.
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March 18, 2016 9:06am
kowtow

“but there’s enough skeletons in the Clinton closet to staff a myriad of horror movies sets.

There’s enough plump interns in the Clinton closet to staff a myriad of porn movie sets.
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March 18, 2016 9:09am
tom hunter

Yeah, the Trump = Hitler is dumb, dull, boring and utterly predictable – but we’re talking about the left-wing here, so what else would you expect?

So with that in mind I present something I put on one of the Trump threads the other day, because it’s too good to just put up once (or even just twice). It starts with this Tweet from bad girl, Kathy Shaidle:

“Hitler? Be more worried that Trump will turn out to be like that other Austrian…”

And the linked article continues….

A similar thing nearly happened in 2003, when the left tried its damnedest to convince California voters that Arnold Schwarzenegger was Hitler incarnate. The mainstream press portrayed Ah-nuld as a Nazi-loving rapist whose election would lead to Mexicans being sent to death camps as Einsatzgruppen squads turned Home Depot parking lots into killing fields of machine-gunned drywallers. But the right didn’t bite, and neither did Schwarzenegger, who watched his words, made few if any campaign missteps, and generally ran a clean, G-rated, inoffensive campaign, in which he pledged to be one of those jolly, likable, fiscally frugal Eisenhower Republicans that everyone can feel comfortable with.

This image always comes to mind when one of our resident lefties pines for “a decent, moderate, sensible Republican”.

And California ended up with one of its worst governors ever—a weak, deceitful, corrupt man of no principles who buckled at the first sign of defeat, freed Latino murderers in exchange for political favors, and left the state in economic shambles. A big-borrowing big spender who, after leaving office, straight-out admitted that his candidacy was a “joke” intended to “freak people out,” and that he ran for office with no idea what he would do if he actually won.

Make no mistake, that would most likely be Trump’s trajectory, too. Like the Austrian bodybuilder, Trump is a wealthy, high-profile loudmouth with no plan to govern and no principles to guide him. The major difference between the campaigns of the two egotistical publicity whores is that in 2003, leftist cries of “he’s a racist Nazi fascist” were met with a resounding “no he isn’t” from Schwarzenegger supporters. Today, those same charges are met by Trump fans with “so what if he is?”

I’m not defending that response, but I’ll freely admit I find it fascinating. I chalk it up to fatigue. Too many people on the right are sick and tired of being policed on the issue of race, by the mainstream media, by SJWs in every corner of society, and by the brand protectors in their own party.

Ah-nuld. Hopes were so high for the non-girly-man!
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March 18, 2016 9:12am
All_on_Red

Tom- a joke for you.
Donald Trump got into an elevator with his dog and a group from Fox News.
He said “sit” and all the Fox team sat down.
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March 18, 2016 9:13am
All_on_Red

Scott Chris
I’m impressed, that massive chip on your shoulder hasn’t curtailed your non stop wanking.
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March 18, 2016 9:15am
Manolo

These pair of socialists are corrupt to the core: Lula and Roussef.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/17/brazils-lula-named-chief-of-staff.html

It was announced on Wednesday that Lula da Silva would take a position in President Dilma Rousseff’s government.

However, on Thursday, a judge issued an injunction saying this could impede the money-laundering investigation into the former premier, according to Brazilian newspapers including O Globo.
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March 18, 2016 9:16am
Manolo

the US market looks up? Now how could that ever be under The Kenyan’s “watch?

No, no, no, stephieboy. It happens despite the Kenyan’s administration.
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March 18, 2016 9:20am
Manolo

Telling Obama to stay away: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-tells-barack-obama-7578706

Nigel Farage and five eurosceptic MPs have penned a letter to Barack Obama warning him to stay out of Britain’s EU referendum. The UKIP leader and other anti-EU politicians wrote to the White House telling the President he should not comment on the Brexit debate.

Mr Obama is due to visit London in April for a private lunch with the Queen and to stage a press conference with David Cameron.
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March 18, 2016 9:22am
All_on_Red

Unfit to serve
“The way I’m reading this is that there’s this uprising in the national security bureaucracies to prosecute Mrs. Clinton,” Tom Fitton told TheDCNF. Fitton is president of the nonprofit government watchdog Judicial Watch, which is preparing to depose top Clinton aides and possibly her as well, in litigation stemming from the State Department’s maladroit handling of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request.
Fitton’s group has also won multiple federal court victories regarding release of 55,000 pages of emails sent to and from Clinton’s use of a private email address and server located in her New York home to conduct official government business during her four years as the nation’s chief diplomat.
“There’s just this kind of ‘just-the-facts approach’ out of the national security establishment on this,” Fitton told TheDCNF. “I don’t see Mrs. Clinton escaping prosecution here.”
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March 18, 2016 9:24am
stephieboy

Trump vs George Wallace ,

“Who Said It: Renowned Racist George Wallace Or Donald Trump? We Seriously Can’t Tell.”

“Somebody’s going to get killed before this primary is over, and I hope it’s not me,” said guess who?

WASHINGTON — GOP front-runner Donald Trump has built his campaign on white fear, populism and threats against protesters. It’s not surprising he’s drawing comparisons to another unlikely presidential candidate: former Alabama Gov. George Wallace, a fervent champion of racial segregation who died in 1998.

Both candidates share “the demagogue’s instinctive ability to tap into the fear and anger that regularly erupts in American politics,” Dan Carter, a professor emeritus at the University of South Carolina, wrote in the The New York Times.

With Trump threatening to ban an entire religious group from traveling to the United States and promising to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, his racially charged rhetoric can be difficult to distinguish from Wallace’s.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-george-wallace-quotes_us_56e710efe4b0b25c9182d7e5
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March 18, 2016 9:25am
All_on_Red

Poll done by Rasmussin on Dec 14
“A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 66% of Likely Republican Voters favor a temporary ban on all Muslims entering the United States until the federal government improves its ability to screen out potential terrorists from coming here. Just 24% oppose the plan, with 10% undecided.

Among all voters, 46% favor a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States, while 40% are opposed. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided.”

Among all voters 46% favour a temporary ban….
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March 18, 2016 9:31am
Fairfacts Media

I see a Romanian politician has been jailed for bribing the voters with fried chicken.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/romania/12195737/Romanian-MP-jailed-for-bribing-voters-with-60-tonnes-of-fried-chicken.html
I can only wonder where he got that idea from?
But it’s great to see the Romanian government crack down on such corruption when it appears we reportedly have political parties using such labours to maintain or gain power.
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March 18, 2016 9:33am
flipper

This, posted on the USA GOP primaries/ Trump thread early this morning, is probably more appropriate here, given some of the discussion above:

kiwi in america (2,637 comments) says:

March 18th, 2016 at 5:15 am

flipper
Re your U of A link, silencing of conservative voices by the angry left on campuses (and beyond) is a global trend and is getting worse. It actually fuels Trump’s popularity because some on the right see him as the only Presidential candidate who will fearlessly stand up to attempts to silence free speech. Trump pushes a few strong definitive themes that resonate strongly across the spectrum (border control – NZers find it hard to conceive of the sense of helplessness Americans feel with inaction on this issue across GOP and Democrat Administrations) and he backs these themes up with demonstrable action (the way he refuses to be manipulated or bullied by the media) and for these attributes, a multitude of sins are forgiven. This in a nutshell is why Trump defies political gravity and has confounded almost all pundits. I don’t support him but I understand fully the reasons for his enduring electoral success in these primaries.

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flipper (5,002 comments) says:

March 18th, 2016 at 7:00 am

Thanks for that KIA. Very helpful indeed.

I started following the US campaign about four months ago when I became intrigued by the visceral hatred of Trump in the US media, with Fox only slightly less critical.

At that time my preference, from afar, was for Rubio. Indeed, I posted to that effect on KB. I then realized that the tactics being employed by the media in the US, Europe, Australia and NZ were/are almost identical to the AGW/CC scam. That sort of peaked when that absurd congressman (from somewhere north east) demanded that the anti-racketeering laws be used against those speaking out against the AGW/CC scam. The Click events [at Miss U] sort of capped it all.

Since then the squeals of outrage from the US left, Soros (a character in one of Tom Clancy’s last books seems to reflect him) inspired and funded groups, and the media in particular, have grown louder, and the anti-Trump claims more, and more outlandish.

The media was/is exhibiting classic TDS. Their reporting and bias fully reflects the KDS evident in NZ from about 2011. KDS has infected the media to such an extent that Bradford (Katie) made her infamous “no matter what we do; no matter what we say, the polls just do not move” comment in a TVNZ report. Apart from the NZ media it was, and still is, most noticeable in academic, union (including teachers), and arty-farty circles. KDS was a multi car crash for the left. TDS seems to be pushing the centre and right of US politics toward Trump. From what my relatives living in Alaska, Oregon, Colorado, New York and Florida tell me (KDS) TDS is having the same effect in the US. (Blair M and stupidboy, please take note)

Now, as each day goes by, I suspect that TDS will increase, as will its effects. But its effects will be the reverse of what the purveyors seek.

Thanks KIA.

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March 18, 2016 9:33am
dime

“Voiceovers from his chats where he speculated with Howard Stern about which women he’d be prepared to fuck”

lmao oh no! you have to be joking!! blokes talking about who they would have sex with.

what is this world coming too????
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March 18, 2016 9:36am
dime

The Don was endorsed by some white supremacist type and the left went ape shit.

even though the don denounced him in 1990 and about 10 times since.

Do we know if Hillary had the foresight to denounce the KKK leader, who endorsed her yesterday, back in 1990??? hes a gran dragon or some such. i dont think she did.. therefor:

HILLARY LOVES THE KKK!!!!

Course, thats nothing new for the Dems, the KKK being an offshoot of their party. An organisation that murdered 2600 blacks and about 1500 whites. The white dudes crimes?? for a lot of them it was… being a republican.

The left – violent filth since forever.
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March 18, 2016 9:39am
mikenmild

Classy, isn’t it dime?
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March 18, 2016 9:40am
B.L.Zeebub

The legal fraternity protects its own , the kiddie porn collector will be another lawyer is my guess.
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March 18, 2016 9:45am
kowtow

BL Zee bub

Talking of potential conflicts of interest and things that go bang in the night. I wonder if Greg O’Connor would like to comment on the (alleged) unlawful use of firearms in the hands of those who don’t respect the law…….wht would Heather Unpleasant Allan say?

“The farmers have criticised police for their role in deciding whether or not to prosecute the policeman suspected of poaching, saying they are concerned the incident is only being investigated because of media inquiries into the issue.”

http://www.odt.co.nz/regions/central-otago/376527/police-handling-hunting-case-slated
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March 18, 2016 9:58am
Manolo

Even our own stephieboy is getting bored:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3497140/Top-Democrat-worries-Bernie-Hillary-s-lovefest-bored-voters-Donald-Trump-bringing-fresh-faces-polls.html
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March 18, 2016 9:59am
stephieboy

dime, yes as my link shows Hilary Clinton can be shown fraternising with the ex KKK member Senator Robert Byrd ,but as you will see only after he had long disavowed and renounced his KKK associations .

“The above-displayed photo and video are both real. The photograph was taken in July 2004, and the video of Clinton was filmed on 28 June 2010, shortly after Byrd’s death.

It’s also true that Robert Byrd was a member of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s, and helped establish the hate group’s chapter in Sophia, West Virginia. However, Byrd left the organization and throughout his long political career (he served for 57 years in the United States Congress) repeatedly apologized for his involvement with the KKK:
“I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times . . . and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.”

In 2010, the NAACP released a statement mourning the passing of Robert Byrd:

The NAACP is saddened by the passing of United States Senator Robert Byrd. Byrd, the longest serving member of congress was first elected to the U.S. House from [West Virginia] in 1952 and was elected Senator in 1958. Byrd passed away this morning at the age of 92.

“Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation,” stated NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. “Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country…”

http://www.snopes.com/clinton-byrd-photo-klan/

Shame really that Trump at this stage does not appear to display such character and moral courage.
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March 18, 2016 10:03am
tom hunter

Classy, isn’t it dime?

Like talking about peeing in the shower!

Or barking like a fucking dog (WARNING: 20 second loop)

Yes sirree bob, it’s going to be one classy US Presidential election – for eight long fucking months!

I always did despise the Kardashian universe on the occasions I glimpsed it – but now it’s my universe as well.
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March 18, 2016 10:06am
stephieboy

tom hunter and flipper, do really you believe that either Trump and Cruz can ever match ( on current form) Senator Byrd who “reflects the transformative power of this nation,” ?
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March 18, 2016 10:10am
mikenmild

Can’t you just sense a Kardashian vice-presidential nominee, tom?
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March 18, 2016 10:11am
Ed Snack

Could someone remind me of which party George Wallace belonged to, Stephieboy and the Huffpo don’t seem to mention it anywhere. And of course, Wallace was never targeted for assassination and confined to a wheelchair was he.
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March 18, 2016 10:18am
Ed Snack

Stephieboy, no way, Cruz for a start would be unlikely to join the KKK in the first place, and even if he did, would be unlikely to privately retain all the links while publicly disavowing them.

Mikenmild, I don’t think that Hillary’s that desperate yet to chose that sort of VP candidate.
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March 18, 2016 10:21am
Fletch

A leader of the Klu Klux Klan, “a grand dragon of the Klan’s California chapter and responsible for recruitment in the western United States” endorses Hillary Clinton. Media silent….

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/12192975/The-KKK-leader-who-says-he-backs-Hillary-Clinton.html
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March 18, 2016 10:21am
Lucia Maria

President Trump episode ‘warning to US’ says Simpsons writer

A possible future Trump presidency, said the episode’s writer Dan Greaney, “just seemed like the logical last stop before hitting bottom. It was pitched because it was consistent with the vision of America going insane”.

The episode, broadcast almost exactly 16 years ago on 19 March 2000, saw Bart offered a vision of his future in which he is a beer-swilling bum, while his sister Lisa has become president, following Trump’s time in office.

So, did The Simpsons cause the future by giving Trump the idea to run for President of the US? The mind boggles.
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March 18, 2016 10:24am
stephieboy

Fletch from your link,

“..We want Hillary Clinton to win,” Mr Quigg told The Telegraph. “She is telling everybody one thing, but she has a hidden agenda. She’s telling everybody what they want to hear so she can get elected, because she’s Bill Clinton’s wife, she’s close to the Bushes. [But] once she’s in the presidency, she’s going to come out and her true colours are going to show.

“Border policies are going to be put in place. Our second amendment rights [favouring gun ownership] that she’s saying she’s against now, she’s not against. She’s just our choice for the presidency.”
Mr Quigg’s declaration of allegiance to Mrs Clinton sounds unconvincing – and contradicts earlier statements…”

Very disingenuous and unconvincing of Quigg including you and other Trump supporters !
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March 18, 2016 10:26am
tom hunter

I’ll make this point just once and then leave it:.

KKK Bryd and others like him were forgiven – even embraced – because they toed the Democrat party line for the rest of their worthless lives. And examples like them and Wallace (or Bill Clinton when it comes to sexual abuse) are never held out as examples of the Democrat party, for which the whole must endlessly apologise for.

By contrast, Republicans are never forgiven – even when they apologise – and their worst examples are always held to be representative of the party.

The rise of Trump and his refusal to apologise or kowtow in the face of such attacks, followed by beating up the media or opponent concerned in an equally vicious manner, perhaps marks the end of this era. But it will not truly end until the Democrats begin to lose election after election while screaming “racist” or whatever new term of abuse arises. Only in the face of repeated failure to gain traction will it stop.
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March 18, 2016 10:27am
Fletch

An upcoming special on Fox interviews Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates. It seems Obama agreed to depose former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak on the advice of a few national security junior backbenchers, rather than an entire team of experts because they told him he would be “on the wrong side of history” if he did not. Typical.

Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates revealed that President Barack Obama disregarded the near unanimous advice of the national security team and decided to depose then-Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak because he wanted to be on the “the right side of history.”

In a sneak preview of a much longer Fox News special set to be released Friday, Gates recalled one of the most egregious incidents, in which Obama decided to follow the advice of three national security junior backbenchers, rather than an entire team of experts.

“The entire national security team recommended unanimously handling Mubarak differently than we did,” Gates said in a Fox News interview. “And the president took the advice of three junior backbenchers in terms of how to treat Mubarak–one of them saying, “Mr. President, you have to be on the right side of history.”

“And I would be sitting there at the table, saying, “Yeah, if we could just figure that out we’d be a long way ahead,”” Gates added.

The removal of Hosni Mubarak has turned out to be one of the most egregious foreign policy disasters of the Obama administration.

(see video) https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/videos/10154143600481336/
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March 18, 2016 10:29am
kowtow

Trump hasn’t done anything and America is seen as going insane.

However under the Messiah’s watch ISIS has grabbed half of Iraq , Syria and Libya have become failed states (with the assistance of said Messiah) and a NATO ally (Turkey) murders its own citizens with impunity ,while also assisting ISIS, a sworn enemy of the US.

The same Messiah cannot (will not) control his own borders and believes he can control the weather.

That is insane. But all the bien pensants can do is say Trump is mad or point at his hair.

I’m not necessarily endorsing Trump, I’m calling out the liars and hypocrites.
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March 18, 2016 10:36am
AgentBallSack

The latest video doing the rounds on facebook and other places is Trump supporters being asked if they would vote for policies supposedly attributed to Trump but in actual fact they are from Hitler (HAHAHA FOOLED YOU FUCKERS). I want to see the same put to Democrats but using policies straight out of Pol Pots and Chavez’s handbook. Bet they would all be creaming themselves to agree with them.
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March 18, 2016 10:41am
Jack5

The Hooerald shows us their sleuths with the amateur video they’re putting up on their site.

Good one of Matt Nippert in action on the web site today.

Matt, you need to spruce up. Don’t want people mistaking you for a debt collector.
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March 18, 2016 10:46am
ciaron

ABS,
you mean something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prtKw0y2WgU
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March 18, 2016 10:46am
tom hunter

Trump hasn’t done anything …

I think that’s another one of the secrets to his success, and he has used this a couple of times. When confronted with hypothetical examples of how inexperienced and potentially stupid he could be in power his response is something along these lines (paraphrasing):

I’m not the expert who invaded Iraq or decapitated the Libyan leadership or helped topple Mubarak or talked about Syrian Red Lines with no follow-through. I’m not one of the super-intelligent experts who negotiated the TPP or the Iranian nuclear deal – or the North Korean nuclear deal either.

I’m not the super-expert who created TARP, the GM bailout, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac or the Obamacare mess or the VA Healthcare or twiddled with the American economy to produce the shallow-breathing fail that has not lifted middle incomes in fifteen years

And on and on. Now I think Trump is talking out of both sides of his mouth on almost all those issues – but he has a point in comparing himself to all the others offering themselves up as informed, pragmatic, smart people.

It’s yet another of his points that resonate with ordinary people but results in puzzled looks from the D.C. crowd, whether it’s Krugman or George Will: Good heavens. Is he really calling us idiots? US. The effrontery of it!

If you’re Hillary Clinton how do you answer that question, especially when some of those can be sheeted home directly to you and that explaining is losing?
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March 18, 2016 10:56am
Fletch

So, they’re bringing back Xena, Warrior Princess (presumably without Lucy Lawless?) and yes, they’re going to make her explicitly gay. *sigh*

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/03/15/producer-xena-will-be-gay-in-warrior-princess-reboot/
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March 18, 2016 11:01am
kowtow

Agent ball sack

Hippies want to ban water

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw
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March 18, 2016 11:02am
ciaron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JJLLfTR8I

Problem is, there’s no reason not to think there are equally ignorant people voting Republican. I think we can sometimes forget that politics in the States is a bit like the America’s cup Yachting here, in that some people live it and a lot of people are vaguely aware of it, but like to wear “loyal” tee shirts cos traitors…
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March 18, 2016 11:02am
ciaron

Fletch (8,493 comments) says:
March 18th, 2016 at 11:01 am
So, they’re bringing back Xena, Warrior Princess (presumably without Lucy Lawless?) and yes, they’re going to make her explicitly gay. *sigh*

Wait, what? I thought she was gay in the last one?
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March 18, 2016 11:06am
waikatosinger

Now that Trump looks likely to be the republican candidate, I’m starting to wonder who, amongst all the republicans frantically trying to suck up to him, he might choose as his “running mate”. A marvellously wonderful naughty thought has occurred to me. As far as I know there is no mandated procedure for choosing a VP candidate. So why not go with a method Trump is very familiar with – a reality TV show – shades of the apprentice.

Just imagine it. Each week the Trump could give them a task – “come up with a proposal for solving the budget deficit” or “in 1000 words or less set out a strategy for US policy in the middle east”. They could be asked to hug babies with points awarded for the best baby-hugger. Or perhaps they could be made to give an off the cuff speech on a topic they are only told at the last minute. Since they are republicans they could be checked out on their accuracy with assault weapons on a firing range, or tasked to go out with a border patrol and rugby tackle a few Mexicans.

OK – I’m not being serious really. But by God it would be good television, getting to watch a bunch of political fat cat arse lickers like Christie humiliating themselves as they desperately scramble over each other trying to suck up to Trump and get the VP job. I’d watch that show. Talk about reality TV.
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March 18, 2016 11:08am
dime

Stephie – lol that you think id read your giant block of garbage text.
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March 18, 2016 11:16am
Ed Snack

Waikatosinger, I do hope that you aren’t giving Trump ideas…but that’s almost brilliant. He could fund his entire campaign by selling advertising spots on the show !

You could even do one selecting a VP for Hillary with the single aim: Show me how much money you can solicit in 1 week from donors who want favours….
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March 18, 2016 11:20am
AgentBallSack

waikatosinger thats a fantastic proposal lol. Careful Chicken Little doesn’t steal it.
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March 18, 2016 11:21am
calendar girl

“With that hair and complexion, the media don’t exactly need to try hard to capture unflattering pictures of Trump. He’s one very ugly customer.”

From behind a cloak of anonymity, that’s very bold of you, mm.

When will you be posting your own photograph for our scrutiny?
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March 18, 2016 11:25am
stigie

Matt McCarten is on to it as we speak folks !~
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March 18, 2016 11:25am
flipper

“……..Mr. Hager sought a judicial review of the way police applied for a search warrant, the subsequent granting of the application, and the way the search was carried out.
Mr. Geiringer said police had refused to allow media to capture the destruction of the clones on Friday.
What is worse is that other journalists also know the identity of the hacker…and worked with him too, to try to subvert an election. Some of them are still working with accomplices.
I have been very, very patient, waiting and hoping that the rule of law will be applied, but it looks like they’ve gotten away with it.
Isn’t it amazing that armies of lawyers are willing to work for free with people who consort with criminals…meanwhile I have to stretch and beg my readers for assistance.
No one in New Zealand political history has been attacked and hounded like I have been and it is still ongoing. I expect they will try again, they already have with sting operations and set ups, all in conjunction with media.
They tried to destroy me, some on the left wanted me dead, they have attacked my revenue, laid complaints with IRD, WINZ and Police, all designed to try to hang me for the crime of being an effective opposing political voice. Worse they dare to claim they are innocent of their own dirty politics despite actively working on the hit job themselves.
The sanctimony of the media over this disgusts me and it is why I have resolved to launch, eventually an alternative.” – Whale Oil 18.03.16
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kiwi in America (2,637 comments) says:
March 18th, 2016 at 5:15 am
flipper
Re your U of A link, silencing of conservative voices by the angry left on campuses (and beyond) is a global trend and is getting worse. It actually fuels Trump’s popularity because some on the right see him as the only Presidential candidate who will fearlessly stand up to attempts to silence free speech. Trump pushes a few strong definitive themes that resonate strongly across the spectrum (border control – NZers find it hard to conceive of the sense of helplessness Americans feel with inaction on this issue across GOP and Democrat Administrations) and he backs these themes up with demonstrable action (the way he refuses to be manipulated or bullied by the media) and for these attributes, a multitude of sins are forgiven. This in a nutshell is why Trump defies political gravity and has confounded almost all pundits. I don’t support him but I understand fully the reasons for his enduring electoral success in these primaries.
……..

The similarity between Cameron Slater’s legitimate complaints and KIA’s perceptive analysis of academia/media is striking.
This is a matter that should concern ALL New Zealanders. But sadly, the KDS/FDS/CSDS mob will carry on regardless….until a Trump-like politician in NZ casts PC into the pit .
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March 18, 2016 11:26am
Don the Kiwi

kowtow (12,382 comments) says:
March 18th, 2016 at 11:02 am
Agent ball sack

Hippies want to ban water

It’s not water they want to ban, kowtow.

It’s di-hydrogen monoxide. 😉
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March 18, 2016 11:29am
lastmanstanding

LOL watching all the Trump haters falling over themselves forgetting that its the people that have voted and had their say as per the first principle of democracy.

Just because you don’t like the person that others have voted for you don’t have the right to diminish their right to vote for whoever they chose.

Again LOL how the anti democracy mind set kicks in from people who declare they are pro democracy but are deep down anything but if its not their person.
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March 18, 2016 11:33am
mikenmild

Whale Oil: ‘No one in New Zealand political history has been attacked and hounded like I have been’
Persecution complex much?
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March 18, 2016 11:34am
mikenmild

calendar girl
A bit tongue in cheek there. It’s not really good form to criticise the looks of male politicians.
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March 18, 2016 11:35am
waikatosinger

“So, they’re bringing back Xena, Warrior Princess (presumably without Lucy Lawless?) and yes, they’re going to make her explicitly gay. *sigh*”

Wait, what? I thought she was gay in the last one?

Yeah but she was more like implictly gay last time.
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March 18, 2016 11:43am
AgentBallSack

Does anyone still read Whaleoil?
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March 18, 2016 11:46am
cas

If Nicky Hager’s stuff is being destroyed, and the identity of the hacker of Whaleoil can’t legally be identified, then perhaps someone ought to start up the Double Standard posters of the 1980s. They were very subtle but people could work out what they were intending to say – eg Pig caught rooting in Ngaio. Surely someone could come up with some subtleties so more of us could know who the bastards behind the hacking are/were.
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March 18, 2016 11:50am
AgentBallSack

Cam Slater has a short memory of when he was running hate campaigns against various businesses calling for boycott of their goods and services. Running threads exhorting people to complain to head offices, local branches, all ironically because it was cutting into his revenue. Naming and shaming people who were not on his side. Karma is a bitch.
Plus his propensity to run paid ads under the guise of posts. Perhaps he should fuck off back to Israel (paid for by the Mossad like last time) or Fiji (paid for by the Fiji tourism board) and take up his real calling ~ shill.
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March 18, 2016 11:54am
ciaron

waikatosinger (469 comments) says:
March 18th, 2016 at 11:43 am
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Yeah but she was more like implicitly gay last time.

Oh, Really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnQUwUqE1aw
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March 18, 2016 12:06pm
AgentBallSack

It was Xenas sidekick Gabrielle who was yearning for some hot girl on girl love. It almost happened (or perhaps did) in one episode. Too far back for me to recall precisely.

Google image search brings up some interesting stuff.
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March 18, 2016 12:09pm
AgentBallSack

PHWOAAAAR!
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March 18, 2016 12:15pm
EAD

http://davidduke.com/trump-rallies-subjected-protester-harassment/

Watch the video below. Please keep in mind that Trump supporters aren’t staging large, organized protests at the campaign rallies of other candidates. It is only the audience at Trump rallies that is subjected to this kind of harassment. Yet somehow it is Trump that is responsible for the confrontation and potential violence…

https://youtu.be/BHoaln_tSa8
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March 18, 2016 12:20pm
Shawn Herles

So, an actual leader of the KKK endorses Hillary. I’m sure the Liberal media will be talking about this for days.

Yeah right.
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March 18, 2016 12:24pm
Shawn Herles

Planned Parenthood President Praises Obama SCOTUS Nominee

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/16/planned-parenthood-president-praises-obama-scotus-nominee/

Obama Supreme Court pick faces conservative heat on gun votes

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/16/obama-supreme-court-pick-faces-conservative-heat-on-gun-votes.html?intcmp=hplnws

So Obama’s SCOTUS pick is pro-abortion and anti gun rights.

Clear evidence that the Republicans should refuse to consider any Obama nominee before the election.
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March 18, 2016 12:27pm
Shawn Herles

Swiss People’s Party Moves to Roll Out Burka Ban Nationwide

“Switzerland could be the next European country to ban wearing the burka in public if campaigners are able to secure enough support for a national referendum. The Swiss canton of Ticino last year banned the wearing of the garments, prompting a country-wide debate on whether to roll the ban out nationally.

If the ban is enforced, Switzerland will become the fourth European country with a national ban on the wearing of the burka; France was the first to implement a ban, followed by Belgium and the Netherlands.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/17/swiss-peoples-party-moves-to-roll-out-burka-ban-nationwide/
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March 18, 2016 12:30pm
Shawn Herles

Tom posted this yesterday, but the link was hinky.

Official: Blue-collar Democrats flocking to Trump

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/03/14/democrats-supporting-donald-trump-ohio-voters-dnt-savidge-erin.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump/
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March 18, 2016 12:36pm
dave_c_

The latest republican attempts to find ways of stopping Trumps nomination smack very much of “We believe in the democratic process so long as it goes our way”, otherwise we’ll spit the dummy, and circumvent due process at all costs. The meeting held Thursday in the US was full of complete replublican assholes.
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March 18, 2016 12:42pm
stephieboy

Ed Snack (2,597 comments) says:
March 18th, 2016 at 10:18 am

Yes , George Wallace was a Democrat but in 1968 ran as the Presidential nominee of the American Independent Party where he carried five southern states . Interesting though toward the end of his political career he mellowed and renounced his segregationist beliefs and sought forgiveness from African Americans .

Echoes of Senator Robert Byrd ex KKK remember who also renounced the Klan and his racist beliefs . Both reflecting the transformative power and moral courage of their nations peoples . We await a similar gesture by Trump and his supporters .

Yet the similarity of the earlier demagoguery , rhetoric and slogans of Wallace’s campaign bare a striking resemblance to Trumps.,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace#Final_years
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March 18, 2016 12:42pm
stephieboy

EAD,

Trump has consistently called for violence against protesters at his rallies.” including offers to pay instigators their legal bills

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/12/11211846/donald-trump-violence-rallies

Trump campaign dogged by violent incidents at rallies

Trump supporter faces assault charge for punching demonstrator
Campaign manager accused of assaulting conservative reporter

Donald Trump is facing growing criticism for repeated incidents of violence at his campaign events.

On the eve of the Republican frontrunner’s scheduled rally in Chicago, Trump has come under increased scrutiny, after an attack on a non-violent protester led to criminal charges against a Trump supporter and Michelle Fields, a reporter for conservative website Breitbart, was allegedly assaulted by Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s campaign manager.
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March 18, 2016 12:53pm
dime

Stephie: for you

http://tastelessgentlemen.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/6PXmdhz.jpg
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March 18, 2016 12:55pm
holysheet

Metropolitan Opera House At the evening performance, the head usher at the Metropolitan Opera House was quite surprised. During an intermission, one middle aged lady stopped and whispered in his ear, “Sir, I believe that I was sexually harassed!” The usher didn’t think much of this complaint, but promised he would check into it soon. At the end of the nights performance in an area close to the first complaint, a second little lady bent down and whispered in his ear, “Sir, I believe I was sexually harassed!” This time, he knew it had to be taken care of soon. A few guests had remained in the opera house, and he decided to go back and question them, to see if they had any knowledge of what was going on. He found one old man crawling along the opera house floor underneath the seats and stooped down to question him. “Excuse me, sir, can I help you?” A bald Donald Trump looked up and said, “Well, sonny, you sure can. I’ve lost my toupee and I’m trying to find it. I thought I’d found it twice, but they were both parted in the middle…and mine’s parted on the side!”
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March 18, 2016 1:01pm
AgentBallSack

Protesters going to Trump rallies are like those fucktards who like John Keys page just so they can troll his posts with their ignorance. I don’t see the point.
You’re one of them aren’t you stephiebitch?
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March 18, 2016 1:01pm
stephieboy

dime, yes sums up very well Trump’s ability to appeal to the brain dead like you.!
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March 18, 2016 1:04pm
thedavincimode

Good grief. I’ve just about had enough of this primaries bollocks. Be glad when it’s all over and we can get back to core business of G**, H*** hating, G***** W******, and M******.
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March 18, 2016 1:05pm
AgentBallSack

To tell the truth I always like Gabrielle more anyway. Xena came across as someone who wouldn’t put up with my shit. Plus I have a thing for short cute stacked blondes who don’t mind jumping the fence.
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March 18, 2016 1:12pm
ciaron

@ ABS,

That’s because you haven’t figured women out. 🙂
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March 18, 2016 1:29pm
Manolo

The incompetent Messiah: from community organiser to Cuba’s poster-boy.
http://news.yahoo.com/move-over-che-obamas-poster-town-203148662.html

A poster of US President Barack Obama popped up in central Havana Thursday in a revolutionary change to the portraits of Che Guevara and other communist leaders plastered around Cuba.
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March 18, 2016 1:36pm
Nostradamus

thedavincimode:

Be glad when it’s all over and we can get back to core business of G**, H*** hating, G***** W******, and M******.

You left out D**** B***!
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March 18, 2016 1:38pm
stephieboy

AgentBalls up , it is truly a remarkable feat by Trump that he can continue appeal to the braindead like dime and yourself !
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March 18, 2016 1:40pm
Manolo

The elitist and (il)liberal Washington Post sounds desperate:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/to-defend-our-democracy-against-trump-the-gop-must-aim-for-a-brokered-convention/2016/03/16/074399d4-eb9c-11e5-bc08-3e03a5b41910_story.html

Donald Trump’s primary victories Tuesday present the Republican Party with a stark choice. Should leaders unite behind Mr. Trump, who has collected the most delegates but may reach the convention in July without a nominating majority? Or should they do everything they can to deny him the nomination?

On a political level, this may be a dilemma. As a moral question, it is straightforward. The mission of any responsible Republican should be to block a Trump nomination and election.
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