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Maggy Wassilieff

@Johnboy

cheap bugger…. nothing less than platinum plate for me
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March 12, 2016 4:35pm
Fletch

New Govt-funded German website features graphic cartoon depictions showing migrants how to have sex. Really? They don’t seem to be having any problems so far.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/11/government-funded-website-teaches-migrants-how-to-have-sex/
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March 12, 2016 4:42pm
Steve (North Shore)

At Pasifika Festival today. Some mad person making a general nuisance out of themselves impersonating John Key – wonder who it was?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2qqjevq9dyw6xh9/Penny%20Bright%202.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4pns0s35rpdrfkj/Penny%20Bright%201.jpg?dl=0

Seriously mentally challenged
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March 12, 2016 4:42pm
Johnboy

I’ll have to wait till I’ve checked you out Maggy.

I suspect that a bit of cooking foil wrapped round it will be most likely! 🙂

ps: 450mm foil of course! 🙂
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March 12, 2016 4:45pm
Shawn Herles

“Trump calls off Chicago rally following violent clashes”

Yes stephie, a bunch of Liberal fascist stormtroopers used violence and intimidation to shut down free speech, again.

I’m sure you are very pleased.

By the way, would you offer up your own daughters to Muslim rapists, or is it just other peoples children you want to sacrifice to your multicultural idol?
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March 12, 2016 4:47pm
Johnboy

Surely stephie isn’t allowed to have daughters Shawn?
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March 12, 2016 4:50pm
Shawn Herles

UK university Islamic Society head planned drive-by murder of soldiers

“Majeed is a former chairman of the King’s College Islamic Society. Why didn’t the benign, peaceful Islam that he presumably learned there help him withstand the allegedly twisted, hijacked version of Islam proffered by the Islamic State?”

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/uk-university-islamic-society-head-planned-drive-by-murder-of-soldiers
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March 12, 2016 4:50pm
Johnboy

He is merely being misjudged by the police Shawn just like the Afro’s in NZ old chap! 🙂
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March 12, 2016 4:54pm
Captain Mainwaring

From Stuff:

“Police ‘hugely’ disappointed by protester celebrating cops being shot
A lone protester has picketed Police National Headquarters lamenting the fact more police weren’t shot in the Kawerau siege.
The unidentified man sat on a low wall directly opposite police headquarters on Molesworth St in Wellington on Friday.
His sign read: “Only four shot not enough.””
……………………………………………………………………………………..
“Hugely disappointed eh?”
Why didn’t you arrest this fucker and charge him with whatever is more serious than ‘grossly offensive behaviour.?
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March 12, 2016 5:29pm
AgentBallSack

RIP Keith Emerson from Emerson Lake & Palmer
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March 12, 2016 5:45pm
AgentBallSack

Steve, you’re mistaken Penny Bright doesnt do personal attacks or dirty politics. Looks more like a tranny in a badly fitting suit.
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March 12, 2016 5:48pm
Nostradamus

AgentBallSack:

Looks more like a tranny in a badly fitting suit.

Or looks more like Penny dressed as a tranny in a badly fitting suit!
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March 12, 2016 5:52pm
Steve (North Shore)

“Steve, you’re mistaken Penny Bright doesnt do personal attacks or dirty politics. Looks more like a tranny in a badly fitting suit.”

Must be another moron hiding her face then ABS
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March 12, 2016 5:55pm
slightlyrighty

Great news for Dairy Farmers.

Labour have declared the Dairy Industry “in crisis”. Regular readers will remember that such a declaration from Labour usually results in a spontaneous turn around.
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March 12, 2016 5:59pm
Manolo

Keeping good company: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/bill-ayers-protests-trump-in-chicago/

Obama buddy and domestic terrorist Bill Ayers was seen protesting Donald Trump in Chicago today.

Thousands of leftwing protesters were expected today to protest Donald Trump at the University of Chicago Illinois campus.
5,000-7,000 people were already inside the pavilion at 5 PM Central. Thousands more were still in a line that stretched several blocks.
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March 12, 2016 6:02pm
Johnboy

Labour have always been flag-wavers for the farming fraternity of course! 🙂
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March 12, 2016 6:05pm
dirty harry

Only in NZ..this piece of trash needs a hollow point to the head.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/77819566/police-hugely-disappointed-by-protester-celebrating-cops-being-shot
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March 12, 2016 6:11pm
Kiwi Dave

Psycho @ 2.16

I don’t dispute Zhukov’s achievement at Khalkin Gal at all, but his kind of competence was not universal in the Red Army, and where it existed, was often defeated by Stalin’s intervention.

It’s quite true that the Wehrmacht had weak logistics and often inferior equipment, but even after the element of surprise had been lost, it managed to win offensive and some defensive victories; a combination of logistic drag, battle losses (as one German general said, ‘We are victoring ourselves to death.”) and exhaustion eroded that superiority. Sure, the Red Army fought aggressively from the start and some senior officers were clearly competent right from the start, but the superior skill and initiative of the German junior and mid-level officers gave the Wehrmacht a qualitative edge for some time.

It’s stretching it a bit to call one reinforced concrete bunker per km of front line (according to Wiki) ‘well prepared defensive lines’, especially as the Finns lacked artillery ammunition and anti-tank guns. Since Finland fought the war with a 1:100 inferiority in tanks, a 1:30 inferiority in aircraft, a 1:5 inferiority in artillery and a 1:5 inferiority in soldiers, it’s not surprising that the Red Army broke through eventually, but at a much higher casualty cost. Again, Stalin is to blame because he insisted on launching the war without the preparation his senior commanders wanted.
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March 12, 2016 6:12pm
Johnboy

He’s not even brown Harry!!

The disease is spreading! 🙂
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March 12, 2016 6:12pm
Nostradamus

Johnboy:

The downtick troll seems to have taken a liking to us!

Edit: two of them!
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March 12, 2016 6:31pm
Johnboy

Pissing folk off is a pleasure to me Nostra. The more downticks I get the more excitement I achieve.

I’ve purposely drawn attention to minus to increase his/her urge to sit here all night waiting for my next comment. 🙂
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March 12, 2016 6:36pm
Johnboy

I have a creature called Yoza that I’m working on at the other thread! 🙂
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March 12, 2016 6:38pm
nasska

While agreeing with earlier commenters that the lone protester is an arsehole it is timely to point out where things are going wrong. Our police force is organised along lines drawn up by Sir Robert Peel in the early 19th century:

….””Policing by consent” indicates that the legitimacy of policing in the eyes of the public is based upon a general consensus of support that follows from transparency about their powers, their integrity in exercising those powers and their accountability for doing so.”…..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles

Which is one way of saying that the police have to earn respect. They don’t do that by pinging motorists for minor speeding infringements nor doing Rambos from helicopters to drive up the price of a plant that most of NZ uses or has used. They do earn respect when burglary rates drop & citizens feel safe in their neighbourhoods.

The police are not autonomous & are subject to the whims of our venal politicians. It is these clowns who direct where police priorities lie.

Don’t blame the cops for the way people see them but sheet home the blame to where it lies……Parliament!
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March 12, 2016 6:47pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

Stigie would like to know if the Peelian principles apply to transgender cops with aids and penis pumps?
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March 12, 2016 6:50pm
Johnboy

It would surely be a fucking brave Police Commissioner that pissed off Judith nasska? 🙂
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March 12, 2016 6:51pm
nasska

When he calls to receive his instructions he probably enters her office backwards on his knees JB!
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March 12, 2016 6:56pm
nasska

For Dad I think we can make an exception Nostra. 🙂
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March 12, 2016 6:58pm
Johnboy

Having already handed her his truncheon and a pot of Deep Heat! 🙂
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March 12, 2016 6:58pm
stigie

Poor ole Dad, left us last night in the heat of the moment when he couldn’t stand it anymore of you pricks giving it to him…?

Hope he doesn’t go the same way as Reddy went. (sulking )
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March 12, 2016 7:11pm
Nostradamus

Stigie:

Everyone has an inner weakness. For Superman, it’s Kryptonite. For Dad, if he’s not feeling well, I’d say some LAXatives would be in order?
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March 12, 2016 7:15pm
Johnboy

No crappy, limp, white feathers at this establishment! 🙂

http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/south-taranaki-star/77818681/Brothel-owner-considers-open-day-a-success
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March 12, 2016 7:21pm
stigie

Nostra :-

If Dad takes off and doesn’t come back till next year, who have we got to bait..?

You could always put yourself forward and make up a story just like Dad could perhaps ?
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March 12, 2016 7:24pm
Nostradamus

Johnboy:

I see they have three bedrooms and one of them is a Union Jack room. Do you suppose they have a Ngati Whatua room as well? Easy enough to do – just put a boardroom table and arrange for a “security guy” to open the bedroom door without warning! For an extra price, he could even join in the action, instead of running away like the security guy in Len’s case did!
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March 12, 2016 7:24pm
Johnboy

And a pretend Mayoral chain to tie a chap up with!!!! 🙂
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March 12, 2016 7:27pm
Awww C-mon

Just had the best day Lads, took some twins out for lunch… Then they gave a special dessert ?

Left them around 3 and went cruising on the new launch, hooked up about 4 and landed my 8th Marlin for the summer around 5!

Now back at home celebrating another Lotto win ?????

Good Saturday ??
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March 12, 2016 7:28pm
Johnboy

Now back at home celebrating another Lotto win ?????

Was that five numbers then you lucky c**** ? 🙂
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March 12, 2016 7:31pm
Awww C-mon

Good em all again JB, if you don’t believe me I’m with me old mate Richie McAwesome, he can vouch for it…
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March 12, 2016 7:34pm
Nostradamus

We could also have the King Room – fitted out with Darren’s Swiss balls. And let’s not forget the Panty Slut Boy room – fitted out with tennis balls and penis weights. Sheesh – when did New Zealand become such a perverted country?!
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March 12, 2016 7:35pm
nasska

Thanks for sharing Awww C-mon. For the rest of us there’s the comfort that comes from knowing that every day above ground is a good day. 🙂
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March 12, 2016 7:35pm
Johnboy

Are Swiss balls bigger than other folks balls then? William could tell if he was still around.
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March 12, 2016 7:37pm
Awww C-mon

It’s hard living the dream Nostra, but some of us are cursed.

In fact Richie, Steve Adams and I will just discussing how hard it is spending soo much money. We are having lunch with Greame Hart tomorrow to get some tips
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March 12, 2016 7:40pm
Johnboy

Come on now nasska even a generous old philanthropist such as yourself must get slightly pissed off when you see than someone like Mark Hotchin or Rod Petrovic has just won Lotto? 🙂
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March 12, 2016 7:41pm
Awww C-mon

Bizarre Convo, the lads asked who I was texting, explained I was chatting to y’all.

Mad Dad came up… Richie said “tell that sad fuck to stop polishing the inside of the tailpipe on my falcon”

Any idea what he meant Dad???
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March 12, 2016 7:46pm
Nostradamus

Awww C-mon:

It’s hard to know whether you have such a wide circle of friends or whether you’re taking the piss!
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March 12, 2016 7:48pm
Awww C-mon

Nostra, plenty of mates. Pete Davis says hi
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March 12, 2016 7:50pm
Nostradamus

Awww C-mon:

Oh now you’ve gone and popped the party balloons. I knew and was just playing along. Though, seriously, I’d love to know what it means to polish the inside of the tailpipe on a falcon!
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March 12, 2016 7:52pm
nasska

And in other news:

“Chemicals in toothpaste and soap could be behind drop in male fertility.”

No wonder the beneficiaries are outbreeding us 6 to 1.
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March 12, 2016 7:53pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

No wonder the beneficiaries are outbreeding us 6 to 1.

That’s a disturbing prospect. So for every protestor at an anti-TPPA event, we can assume that, on average, that person hasn’t showered for 6 days! Maybe the government should apply chemical sprays at political protests as a form of population control?
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March 12, 2016 7:56pm
Awww C-mon

Make your own Nasska, Green Party website will directions,

Under Shaws page though, none of the others would know
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March 12, 2016 7:59pm
nasska

There’s a rumour that the Publicwatchdog’s bath is used exclusively to store the coal Nostra. 🙂
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March 12, 2016 8:01pm
alex Masterley

ahem,
Clears throat.
Go the highlanders…….!
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March 12, 2016 8:04pm
Awww C-mon

Great counters and breakout.

Turnover ball goes wide every time and into space, it’s beautiful to watch
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March 12, 2016 8:09pm
Awww C-mon

Oh Nostra, nearly forgot

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OrLMLFE5Eec
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March 12, 2016 8:11pm
Nostradamus

Awww C-mon:

So you “nearly forgot” about this:

Edward Smith, aged 63, a self-described mechaphile, said he has held intense sexual feelings for automobiles since he was 14. “I feel a tremendous sense of calm when I am with her,” Smith explained. “No matter how I tell people they are blown away. ‘What’s he do just stick it up the tail pipe?’ That’s all they can think of and the sexual satisfaction it’s not like that. It’s so much more. It’s about making a connection with this car’s spiritual energy. I’ve been with Vanilla for 30 years now. I still get the temptation to pull over the side of the road if I see a really cute car parked. But I don’t want to break my promise to Vanilla to remain faithful to her.”

Ok, well, now I know what it means to polish the inside of the tailpipe on a falcon.

This comment caught my eye:

I’ll bet he anally rode the stick shift once or twice

The mind boggles!
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March 12, 2016 8:15pm
Awww C-mon

Shit Nostra! You have an eye for detail!
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March 12, 2016 8:17pm
Don the Kiwi

Awww C.

The guy’s a total freak. Where do you get this shit from ? A bit of a fascination yourself, huh ??
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March 12, 2016 8:19pm
Awww C-mon

Well Don, I did finally get my new ute….

Happily take on your boys mustang ?
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March 12, 2016 8:21pm
Nostradamus

Don the Kiwi:

I’ve learnt something today. If I find out that someone calls their car Vanilla, I’m running a mile!
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March 12, 2016 8:21pm
Awww C-mon

Nostra/Don

I’ve learnt not to post shit from YouTube without watching it first!! That shit is fucked up ??
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March 12, 2016 8:25pm
alex Masterley

Ahem,
Forget the cars chaps.
go the Phoenix..
and also the Highlanders
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March 12, 2016 8:25pm
Captain Mainwaring

So a prisoner in Mt. Eden has apparently topped himself, and this is since the facility was removed from Serco’s hands and given back to Corrections.
“It’s just terrible”, said Kelvin Davis.
That’s all folks…………………………………………………………
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March 12, 2016 8:26pm
Odakyu-sen

“Vanilla” is the name a 9-year-old girl would give to her pet hamster.
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March 12, 2016 8:28pm
Awww C-mon

There ya go Alex!! Go the Landers!!
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March 12, 2016 8:38pm
nasska

A Hurricanes fan walks past Video Ezy & sees an ad for “The Hurricanes – The Glory Years”.
He goes into the shop and asks how much it is.
“$100” says the assistant.
“That’s a bit steep, how come it’s so dear ??”
“Well its a tenner for the video and $90 for the Betamax recorder!”
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March 12, 2016 8:40pm
Awww C-mon

A Crusaders fan walks past Video Ezy & sees an ad for “The Crusaders – The Glory Years”.
He goes into the shop and asks how much it is.
“Same as last week Dad” says the assistant.
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March 12, 2016 8:44pm
Nostradamus

Not quite Awww C-mon:

A Crusaders fan walks past Video Ezy & sees an ad for “~~The Crusaders~~ Richie – The Glory Years”.
He goes into the shop and asks how much it is.
“Same as last week Dad” says the assistant. “How many copies do you have in your collection now?”
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March 12, 2016 8:46pm
Awww C-mon

“A Crusaders fan walks past Video Ezy & sees an ad for “The Crusaders Richie – The Glory Years”.
He goes into the shop and asks how much it is.
“Same as last week Dad” says the assistant, ” though the tissues are extra, and Richie said leave his bloody falcon alone”
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March 12, 2016 8:47pm
Viking2

any card players here?

Interesting. TFF has been browsing Adam Spencer’ latest book, World of Numbers – which is sort of mathematical quirks and concepts, explained by a geek who can also write bloody well. The one that most stunned me is this. Spencer says that if you truly shuffle a deck of cards, properly, you will have in your hands one of the 52 x 51 x 50 x … x 3 x 2 x 1 =8065817517094387857166063685640376697528950544088327782 4000000000000 different ways you can shuffle a deck.
A big number, I know.

But what fascinates me is his contention that, “you can be assured that the order of cards you hold in your hands, has never happened before in the history of the universe … and will NEVER happen again! If a billion people, shuffled a billion decks of cards every day for a billion years they would not scrape the surface of the total number of ways a deck can be arranged.”
Try adamspencer.com.au for the book
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March 12, 2016 8:56pm
Viking2

i NOTE SOMEONE Was talking about vanilla and shiny tail pipes.

A gynecologist becomes so fed up to the backteeth with malpractice insurance and all the rest, he embarks on a career change, where his already skilful hands could still be of use. He goes to the local technical college, and takes evening classes to become a mechanic. When the time of the practical exam approaches, the gynecologist prepares carefully for weeks, and completes the exam with tremendous skill.

When the results came back, he is surprised to find that he has obtained a score of 150%. Fearing an error, he calls the Instructor, saying, “I don’t want to appear ungrateful for such an outstanding result, but I wonder if there is an error in the grade?”
“No, the instructor says, “During the exam, you took the engine apart perfectly, which was worth 50% of the total mark. You put the engine back together again perfectly, which is also worth 50% of the mark.”

After a pause, the instructor adds, “I gave you an extra 50% because, before this, I’ve never seen it all done through the exhaust pipe.”
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March 12, 2016 8:57pm
Viking2

A Mexican, an Arab, and an Australian are in the same bar.

When the Mexican finishes his beer, he throws his glass in the air, pulls out his pistol, and shoots the glass
to pieces.

He says, ‘In Mexico, our glasses are so cheap we don’t need to drink with the same one twice.’

The Arab, obviously impressed by this, drinks non-alcohol beer ( cuz he’s a Muslim!), throws it into the
air, pulls out his AK-47, and shoots the glass to pieces.

He says, ‘In the Arab World, we have so much sand to make glasses that we don’t need to drink with
the same one twice either.’

Then the Aussie, cool as a cucumber, picks up his beer, downs it in one gulp, throws the glass into
the air, whips out his 45, and shoots the Mexican and the Arab.
Catching his glass, setting it on the bar, and calling for a refill, he says,
‘In Australia,
we have so many illegal immigrants that we don’t have to
drink with the same ones twice.’

God Bless Australia !!
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March 12, 2016 9:04pm
Viking2

South African Dutchman Van der Merwe had never before been out of South Africa.
While on holiday in Australia he decided to spend an afternoon visiting Bondi Beach.

As he sat on the beach looking out to sea he saw a long line of black
Dots out in the water and said to an Aussie, who was sitting close by,
“What are all those little black things out there?”
“They’re buoys,” said the Aussie.

“Boys?!” replied Van der Merwe. “What are they doing out there?”

“Holding up the shark net,” the Aussie told him.

“F*ckin great country!” said Van der Merwe, deeply impressed,
“We’d never get away with that at home!
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March 12, 2016 9:05pm
Viking2

God went to the Arabs and said,
‘I have Commandments for you that will make your
lives better.’

The Arabs asked, ‘What are Commandments?’
And the Lord said, ‘They are rules for living.’

‘Can you give us an example?’

‘Thou shall not kill.’

‘Not kill? We’re not interested..’

So He went to the Blacks and said, ‘I have Commandments.’

The Blacks wanted an example, and the Lord said,
‘Honor thy Father and Mother.’

‘Father?

We don’t know who our fathers are.
We’re not interested.’

Then He went to the Mexicans and said,
‘I have Commandments.’

The Mexicans also wanted an example, and the Lord said ‘Thou shall not steal.’

‘Not steal? We’re not interested.’

Then He went to the French and said,
‘I have Commandments.’

The French too wanted an example and the Lord said, ‘Thou shall not commit adultery.’

‘Sacre bleu!!! Not commit adultery? We’re not interested.’

Finally, He went to the Jews and said,
‘I have Commandments..’

‘Commandments?’
They said, ‘How much are they?’

‘They’re free.’

‘We’ll take 10.’
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March 12, 2016 9:06pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Viking 2
a large number….
much easier to write it as 52! (52 factorial)
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March 12, 2016 9:11pm
alex Masterley

Well done the Phoenix and highlanders.
Hopefully I will be at the Highlanders next game in dunners when the Cook re-opens.
Now that bottle of Toms Block Neudorf Pinot Noir is calling..
evening all…
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March 12, 2016 9:23pm
Nookin

I watched Ben Uffindel (?) reporting on the dumbing down of the news media yesterday. He had it exactly right and if anyone has even a scintilla of doubt, read the link to the following article.

Would the author of that article please step forward and receive this month’s award for being a weapons-grade twat who clearly hasn’t put his/her brain into gear for some time.

Here are some polite observations:

If the land value is $13m and the improvement value is $1m and if it sold last year for a bit over $14m then it is not a $14m mansion. It is a mansion that is a bit over a mill on a $13m+ block of turf.

When the fire department burnt it down, $14m did not go up in smoke.

The building may have gone but the turf is still there.

Got it? And these people say they are here to ensure that our civil liberties are not abused. Heaven help us.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/77818937/smoke-seeps-from-14million-former-hotchin-mansion-as-fire-service-start-drills
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March 12, 2016 9:42pm
nasska

But it has the “humanity factor” covered in spades Nookin. Who could read the article without thinking about the nasty rich people who can afford to watch $14 million go up in flames. Consider how many beneficiaries could have used that money!

It’s not meant to convey facts…..just feelings.
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March 12, 2016 9:50pm
Nostalgia-NZ

At the moment Chicago police are saying they had no input into him calling off his rally there. No one likes a chicken, I guess they might say in America.
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‘In the meantime, the protesters had succeeded in their goal for the evening. As one, Violet Ornelas, 28, gleefully told the Guardian: “If he can’t even handle Chicago, what makes him think he could handle Isis?”’

Over the next few hours I suppose such comments such as ‘if he loses Chicago so easily, can he be trusted with America’ will emerge. Trump has gone on a lot about, in his words, ‘my people’ and what they can do. It’s odd that he’s made himself look vulnerable in this way.
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March 12, 2016 10:09pm
Nookin

Nasska. I suspect that the journalist may have lost some dosh in Hanover. It made him/her both broke and stupid.
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March 12, 2016 10:14pm
Left Right and Centre

Look no further than the rarefied stratosphere of the judicial system. This week, in Ashburton, a jury was advised not to be ‘delphic’ in their deliberations by the presiding judge.

That’s to subtlety reinforce your place beneath them, peasants.
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March 12, 2016 10:24pm
starboard

filthy jiggaboos..

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/africa/77822819/south-sudan-forces-raped-and-killed-civilians-un-report-says

more maori scum
http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/77773101/Wanted-Auckland-woman-publicly-taunts-police-on-Facebook
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March 12, 2016 10:51pm
Inandout

starboard 10.51: She was watching Kawerau play out and knows the cops will defer to cultural sensitivity when dealing with Moddies. I expect a Maori Liaison Inspector will tend to her needs, but definitely not a pakeha officer.
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March 12, 2016 11:31pm
UglyTruth

And these people say they are here to ensure that our civil liberties are not abused. Heaven help us.

The assumption is that civil liberties are of greater value than natural liberties. It’s a very dangerous assumption.

NZ’s constitution favours natural liberties because the rule of law does not grant carte blanche to the civil process, which is based on human will rather than the law of nature.
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