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February 1, 2016 9:39am by David Farrar

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Left Right and Centre

It’s something called ‘Newshub’ at 6pm !! Can you feel the ~~excrement~~ excitement people !!
I am beside myself with anticipation. Ooooo – what a good lead-in programme too – paint drying talent TV – cool. Nothing like going from that crap to hard news.

I live for these moments – I was there when. I was there when !! I’ll be able to tell future generations I was there when Newshub started. Those were the days indeed. What a rush.

6pm: looks suspiciously like every other evening news bulletin in the history of the universe ever – so far.

6:02pm. I am *sooooo* over it.
6:03pm. Hang on – this isn’t the same marketing con as the chocolate manufacturers etc – smaller size block for the same price ? Re-name – less content, same amount of ads ? hahaha
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February 1, 2016 5:59pm
Reid

Australia: Muslim wanted to pack kangaroo with explosives, paint it with Islamic State symbol, set it on cops

Doesn’t strike me as a particularly practical plan Shawn Herles

And yet it’s almost certainly the sort of plan Captain Bananas, slimy and stupidboy would come up with as they plotted to overcome the impending Muslim invasion. You can just imagine stupidboy and slimy furiously insisting on using the new NZ flag design instead of Islamic state insignia. That’d be the only change.

They’d probably get right up to the very eve of executing their fiendishly clever scheme, before they suddenly realised kangaroos are a bit hard to come by, in NZ. Then Captain Bananas would probably suggest using possums instead, but sadly they weren’t big enough to fit the new flag onto.
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February 1, 2016 6:02pm
Awww C-mon

Stigie,

Will try hard to be funny from here out for the evening, two issues though

1/ Im not
2/ Playing COD and not really paying attention

Edit “They’d probably get right up to the very night before they executed their fiendishly clever scheme, before they suddenly realised kangaroos are a bit hard to come by, in NZ:

Reid has started well though!
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February 1, 2016 6:04pm
Stars And Stripes

“Newshub”

Bet it wont come anywhere near the amount of viewers on the similarly named “Pornhub”

People know where to go to get the real “lowdown”.
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February 1, 2016 6:06pm
mikenmild

Reid gets a bit grumpy when he can’t keep up with the intellectual calibre on display at Kiwiblog.
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February 1, 2016 6:08pm
Reid

Slimy gets a bit grumpy when people post things he can’t lie about and be all disengenuous and sarcastic over. Don’t you slimy.

How come you weren’t posting today during work hours BTW.

Boss had a word?

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
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February 1, 2016 6:12pm
Left Right and Centre

Bet it wont come anywhere near the amount of viewers on the similarly named “Pornhub”

Hot girlmeat TV news reporters and weather chickies equals “Softpornnewshub”.
No-one’s allowed to point it out though. I ain’t complaining. The chick reporting the Masterton dead teens must’ve been the hottest and best dressed human in the Wairarapa today.

6:15pm edit – newshubba hubba. Brilliant.
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February 1, 2016 6:12pm
Kea

“Reid gets a bit grumpy when he can’t keep up with the intellectual calibre on display at Kiwiblog.”

EG: “The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the Lord thy God. “Thou shalt not boil a kid in his mother’s milk.
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February 1, 2016 6:15pm
mikenmild

LRC
You’ve persuaded me to watch it.
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February 1, 2016 6:30pm
Reid

Makes it easier to understand why the St Louis was turned away:

Brilliant EAD.

Shame none of them here will read it.

Pearls before swine.
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February 1, 2016 6:40pm
dad4justice

stigfly – is your d4j doll not enough for a stalker freak like yourself? You really should get a job and psychiatric treatment with your unhealthy fixation with me.
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February 1, 2016 6:40pm
waikatogirl

Students “hot bedding” in Auckland apartments. Up to 8 people sleeping in a 2 bedroom apartment. Taking turns to sleep in the 2 beds at different times of the day to save costs on accommodation.

This is apparently common with Indian students attending tertiary studies.

Aren’t there health issues with this number using the facilities. Not only the multiple number using the same sheets but EIGHT people with presumably ONE toilet?!
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February 1, 2016 6:43pm
Lucia Maria

Not much has happened here since I last looked in. Just lots of frothing. I wonder when all the air bubbles will pop?

I’m still up for that Vodka or three, Kea.
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February 1, 2016 6:43pm
Stars And Stripes

Waikatogirl – no problem here as it is way better than what they are used to in India where they sleep on the floor at the train station and shit on the railway lines.
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February 1, 2016 6:48pm
Kea

Lucy, Wodka its WODKA. You of all people should know of the Russian conspiracy to steal Wodka from Poland and claim it as their own 🙂
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February 1, 2016 6:50pm
Kea

“stigfly – is your d4j doll not enough for a stalker freak like yourself?”

MadDad where can we buy these dolls of which you speak so often ?

Reading your posts it seems most of the folk here have one. Perhaps if you had stuck with – dolls – you would not have had the difficulties thus far traversed in the pursuit of romance 🙂
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February 1, 2016 6:53pm
Lucia Maria

Kea,

Vodka, Wodka – they look the same to me. I didn’t even notice your use of the “w” at first, as I read it as a “v” sound.

Even if there is a conspiracy, I’m happy to go with the predominant spelling in an English speaking country.
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February 1, 2016 6:53pm
mikenmild

What are you worried about this evening D4J? Chronic anxiety can be crippling.
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February 1, 2016 6:54pm
Kea

Trust me Lucy

We traveled to the front lines of the Vodka/Wodka Wars and discovered that the tortured history of Russian-Polish relations can be saved in a bottle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR_37f6hHTE
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February 1, 2016 6:57pm
dad4justice

“MadDad where can we buy these dolls of which you speak so often ”

Bigot blouse sells them ask him. Have you room for such a doll in your bird cage you insane parrot?
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February 1, 2016 7:06pm
stigie

For Dad to pursuit romance Kea, he has to frequent the south western corner of Hagley Park !~
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February 1, 2016 7:08pm
dad4justice

Grow up stigfly get treatment for your obsession. What a pathetic life you must have. Get a job. It’s so sad that your only thrill in life is backstabbing me and down ticking my comments.

God help the likes of you!
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February 1, 2016 7:12pm
Awww C-mon

A real job, a mans job, a fulfilling and rewarding job

Fitting pumps onto heifers
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February 1, 2016 7:14pm
Kea

“Bigot blouse sells them ask him. Have you room for such a doll in your bird cage you insane parrot?”

Are they life like? Eg: Angry and Transgender ?
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February 1, 2016 7:14pm
Viking2

Stars And Stripes (478 comments) says:
February 1st, 2016 at 12:14 pm

Kea- you can try and make this whole police chase debate into a racist thing if you so please but as one of “these people” you talk about 11.46pm I could not give a toss whether the occupants of the car were Jewish, Maori, Japanese, European, Bolivian or whatever else.
They gambled they lost, no tears from me but if you want to feel bad about it be my guest.

The only time I will ever feel bad is when they kill an innocent person in the process of their idiocy.
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Well, one person, (the driver), it seems managed to make two dead.
Noit sure if one was the driver or not. Maybe you know.
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February 1, 2016 7:14pm
mikenmild

Perhaps we should start with some simple affirmations, D4J.
Repeat after me:
“I am D4J. I am not angry”.
Say this three hundred times.
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February 1, 2016 7:15pm
stigie

Is it a bit like your obsession Mad Dad when you were pulled up by that so called transgender cop, were you hoping he would ask you to fondle the sausage…?
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February 1, 2016 7:15pm
Kea

“Is a bit like your obsession Mad Dad when you were pulled up by that so called transgender cop”

stigie, Mad-Dad was probably just visualising his favorite fantasy as part of his re-assignment therapy.

milky, try and be more understanding about his anger issues. The hormone treatments play merry hell with her moods. 🙂
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February 1, 2016 7:19pm
Awww C-mon

The thing I love most about mad dad is the edits

*write something stupid
*push submit
*Grunt “hey I shoulda said ‘X”
*push edit
*add another stupid comment
*save
*Grunt “that’ll fuck the fucker”
*scratch balls

Fuck, now I’m doing it LMAO

Edit for Kea
*Rubs specimen jar on table containing balls
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February 1, 2016 7:20pm
Viking2

Looks like Mr Key has been having a word with Mrs Merkle.

http://www.natureknows.org/2016/01/germany-opens-62-mile-bicycle-highway-that-is-completely-car-free.html
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February 1, 2016 7:24pm
mikenmild

When you have completed the affirmation, D4J, I want to think about some books for you to read. Could you please estimate your reading age?
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February 1, 2016 7:24pm
stigie

You know Awww, according to Dad we are homos/progs/ knuggledragging/commie cowards…have i left anything out..?
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February 1, 2016 7:24pm
Awww C-mon

Stigie

jellyfish, spineless, oh and well hung
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February 1, 2016 7:26pm
Kea

” Could you please estimate your reading age?”

LOL 🙂

Classic milky
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February 1, 2016 7:30pm
Shunda barunda

Bigot blouse sells them ask him. Have you room for such a doll in your bird cage you insane parrot?

Hahaha!!

Classic Dad!!

You poofs should cut him some slack.
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February 1, 2016 7:31pm
dad4justice

My fan club is beyond help. They are all turd tappers dying of aids.

The worse affected homo will comment next.
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February 1, 2016 7:31pm
Awww C-mon

^^^ BAHAHAHA with the edit, awesome work Dad
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February 1, 2016 7:32pm
Kea

“You poofs should cut him some slack.”

Shunda barunda, Yeah at least Mad-Dad had the bloody guts to change his gender and not pounce around like a frigging nancy boy like the rest of em. 🙂
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February 1, 2016 7:33pm
Shunda barunda

My fan club is beyond help.

They can’t help it dad, but they need you.
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February 1, 2016 7:33pm
stephieboy

Stars And Stripes (479 comments) says:
February 1st, 2016 at 6:48 pm

Waikatogirl – no problem here as it is way better than what they are used to in India where they sleep on the floor at the train station and shit on the railway lines.

Stars And Stripes, there is as a simple technique for you to use for checking your brain growth . It’s simply sticking your big index fingers completely into you ears on both sides then working up some flatulence !
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February 1, 2016 7:34pm
Stars And Stripes

Viking 7.14pm- if I understand your question correctly the driver and other front seat passenger died and the driver was a Maori and the passenger European.
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February 1, 2016 7:35pm
Kea

“dad4justice (7,357 comments) says:
February 1st, 2016 at 7:31 pm
My fan club is beyond help. They are all turd tappers dying of aids.”

I thought you said they were all into [Transgender ] Mad-Dad dolls ?

Don’t tell me you have pre-violated the merchandise Dad ?
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February 1, 2016 7:37pm
dad4justice

“They can’t help it dad, but they need you.”

I understand that my friend. Very sick individuals and I pray that they can get real lives so they can cope with their horrible disease.
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February 1, 2016 7:37pm
Stars And Stripes

Why did I know our resident India expert Stephie would comment on that ah!.
Visited five times if I remember rightly.
Think the curry has had an effect by the sounds of it.
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February 1, 2016 7:38pm
stigie

Better not come near us Mad Dad if we are infected with aids…You are very funny tonight Dad ?
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February 1, 2016 7:40pm
mikenmild

How did you get on with the affirmation, D4J? it’s really important that we get to some more advanced work if we are to address that anger problem.
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February 1, 2016 7:43pm
Griff

They can’t help it dad, but they need you.

“We” dont need him .
I dont think there is a living thing that needs a d4j except maybe the fleas in his hovel and any parasitic life forms that inhabit his body.
We do however find him an amusing diversion at times .
A little like one of those dolls you pull and string off and it bleats out badly structured barely recognizable phrases.
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February 1, 2016 7:43pm
Kea

Dad, we need to clear this up ❗

➡ Can you confirm, or deny, that the Transgender Mad-Dad Dolls are infected with AIDS before leaving your facility ?
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February 1, 2016 7:44pm
Awww C-mon

“A real life” Dad??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW8CqnfhrrY
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February 1, 2016 7:45pm
Kea

“A little like one of those dolls you pull and string off ”

Careful Griff, they are apparently infected Dolls. 🙂
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February 1, 2016 7:46pm
stigie

The frustration in that shoe shop must be immense and then the fucking anger taken out on Kiwiblog…?

But then, we can handle Mad Dad. We just have to try and help him !~
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February 1, 2016 7:53pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Some of you big city boys are going to be very busy this week attending public gatherings
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/76465470/neomasculinist-group-plan-international-meetup

Unfortunately I can’t attend on the 6th… because I am a lady

Why have the men missed out meeting in Chch?
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February 1, 2016 7:56pm
Kea

Maggy, Mad-Dad would have loved that conference had he not had gender re-assignment.

I can see our rapid feminist hordes are getting in early with the lies and misrepresentations. They seem to think hating men is the same as supporting women. Poor things.
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February 1, 2016 8:01pm
Odakyu-sen

Kea,

Indeed.

Hating is easy; supporting takes much more time and effort.
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February 1, 2016 8:06pm
Kea

Odakyu-sen,

Indeed.

But not everything should be supported.
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February 1, 2016 8:08pm
mikenmild

Maggy
Unfortunately I shall be at the cricket on Saturday so will be unable to laugh at the pathetic MRAs/PUAs at Glover Park.
Is there a Christchurch meeting for D4J and other ‘alphas’ to attend?
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February 1, 2016 8:10pm
Kea

milky, it is for men. The doormats have to wait outside. At the entrance. You won’t be allowed to go anyway.
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February 1, 2016 8:12pm
Awww C-mon

milky, it is for men… So Penny will be there then?
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February 1, 2016 8:16pm
Lucia Maria

Kea,

Thanks for that Wódka documentary. I watch both Part I and II. Part II was the best.

As far as I’m concerned, Vodka is the English word and Wódka is the Polish. The Russian word would be in radically different letters as they don’t use the Latin alphabet, so Vodka the word is definitely not Russian. If, for some reason, the English word was changed to Wodka, then chances are that everyone would start calling it Would-Ka, just like Warsawa (pronouned Var-sa-va) is War-Saw. The Polish V sound for W is just not something English speakers are used to, so I’m happy to leave it as Vodka.

However, now that I know the word Wódka is important, I will start using it more.

Also, I do have a Wódka card for the Polish cafe around here, where for every four Wódka’s I buy, I get a free one. I’m quite happy to get some more stamps!
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February 1, 2016 8:18pm
mikenmild

AC
By ‘men’, I guess you meant to say rape enthusiasts.
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February 1, 2016 8:18pm
Manolo

Anything goes: https://www.yahoo.com/politics/sanders-campaign-cites-alarming-signs-clinton-020552922.html

Jeff Weaver, the presidential campaign manager for Sen. Bernie Sanders says he is worried Hillary Clinton’s team is resorting to “irregular” tactics to win the Iowa caucus tomorrow.
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February 1, 2016 8:19pm
Awww C-mon

AC
By ‘men’, I guess you meant to say rape enthusiasts.

WTF? Where did that come from?
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February 1, 2016 8:23pm
Jack5

Kea has posted with instances of both question marks and exclamation marks in red in this thread today.

That’s like going above the red line in the huge thermometers in a an atomic power station, where that would be a warning that meltdown is close. Its Keacide Day -5, so there’s still a chance to turn Kea around before that.

In the meantime, Kea, about wódka. I think you’re right: that’s the Polish spelling in the roman alphabet. The Poles still pronounce it with an initial “v” sound and with the stress on the first syllable, just as the Russians do with their Cyrillic водка.

I think that’s right, isn’t it Andrei?

Regardless,vodka’s a pretty pedestrian product compared with spirits like Cognac and dark rum. Colourless, tasteless, odourless, character-less. If the Russkis and Poles had been smarter, they might have made a decent rum based on beet. I think they make some brandy in the south around the Black Sea. Perhaps Andrei has sampled it.
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February 1, 2016 8:24pm
Stars And Stripes

Kea- have a good read of this and then tell me that he was not trash. Still disgusting is it?.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/76454050/boys-killed-in-masterton-car-crash-described-as-troubled-youths
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February 1, 2016 8:25pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@mikenmild

I haven’t quite got up to speed with the new terminology… but I don’t think alpha males are necessarily neomasculinists.

I think slimebag is a synonym for neomasculinist… and palaeomen probably encompasses alpha males.

No, there’s no gathering of the neomasculinists in Chch……. I can’t imagine why not……. the city seems to have had its fair number of slimy creeps.
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February 1, 2016 8:27pm
Awww C-mon

MM, Sorry, I think I get your comment now by reading Maggie’s.

Edit: and just got a chance to follow the link.

What above of Fuckwits, sorry to Penny for my one-liner about her being there. Shit like that doesn’t even deserve joking about really.
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February 1, 2016 8:29pm
Kea

Lucy, I thought you might like it. Given your sentiments about those Russkies. As I recall it the point was not about the spelling. Of course spellings differ with language, no real story there.

Jack5, The great thing about the drink is its purity and simplicity. I do not drink it often, but when I do I can knock it back big time. It agrees with me.
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February 1, 2016 8:34pm
Kea

“AC
By ‘men’, I guess you meant to say rape enthusiasts.”

Yes milky. In the common usage men = rape enthusiasts.

What a good boy parroting the feminist narrative like that. You might get to touch a titty tonight. Or not.
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February 1, 2016 8:39pm
mikenmild

AC
Read about ‘Roosh V’, uber-creep inspiration behind this group:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roosh_V
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February 1, 2016 8:41pm
Kea

“I think slimebag is a synonym for neomasculinist”

Maggy Wassilieff, so what do you call neofeminists ?

Or do you need a hand to work out a name ? I can think of plenty for the twisted angry self absorbed blobs of misery.
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February 1, 2016 8:41pm
Kea

“Read about ‘Roosh V’”

Milky why did you not put a link to his actual blog, instead of telling people what to think ?

How come he gets all these women milky, do you think its because women hate him ? Is that a reasonable conclusion to draw from the evidence ? No it is clearly not. Leaving you to either admit you are jealous or launch into a personal attack.

LOSER !

I let people see the reality and make their own minds up.

http://www.rooshv.com/
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February 1, 2016 8:45pm
Nostradamus

Kea:

In the common usage men = rape enthusiasts.

You’re one of the select few – along with Reid – who has featured in a Pete George blog post:

‘Kea’ is a prolific commenter on Kiwiblog. He has often run foul of other commenters (including myself) and often resorts to abuse, especially when his comments and behaviour are confronted.

Kea is a misogynist with sometimes extreme views on women.

The blog post continues – and is very long!
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February 1, 2016 8:46pm
Kea

You’re one of the select few – along with Reid – who has featured in a Pete George blog post:

The blog post continues – and is very long!”

Yes I have seen it. Hilarious and epic melt down. It is one for the record book.The tragic little unit had to run off and vent on his own sad boring bog, as he was a laughing stock on KB with his claims of “rape culture” and attacking Soldiers who went and died for their country as being negligent to their women. On his own bog he could write all the lies /misrepresentations and out of context sentence fragments without challenge.

A cowardly weak and contrived little man. He is a disgrace.
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February 1, 2016 8:55pm
stephieboy

Stars and Stripes, you might wish to indulge us with your expert input on this fatal teen car crash in Auckland recently ?

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11575252
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February 1, 2016 8:59pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Kea

Maggy Wassilieff, so what do you call neofeminists ?

Well how would I know the answer to that?

I’m a boring old subjugated housewife who has served her hubby yummy meals, ironed his shirts and washed his grundies for decades….
I haven’t had time to discard my bra and run tamponless marathons with the sisters…
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February 1, 2016 9:05pm
Stars And Stripes

What about it Stephie?
Might pay to consult the greenies as they are always mourning the loss of trees.
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February 1, 2016 9:06pm
Andrei

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5O-oZDDFRQ
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February 1, 2016 9:14pm
stephieboy

Stars and Stripes , put like this those involved in the tragedy weren’t Polys

Can see you spiralling into a deep maniacal depression or a severe attack of the runs .
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February 1, 2016 9:14pm
Kea

“I haven’t had time to discard my bra and run tamponless marathons with the sisters…”

Oh no you don’t get off that easy Maggy my dear. You made the time to think up a very nasty name for those nice neomasculinist boys.

I am sure a womin of your education can come up with something 🙂
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February 1, 2016 9:16pm
Stars And Stripes

Stephie- I did not see any mention of the car being stolen so by definition it could not be Poly’s and the car is way better than something they could afford so nothing to see here really.
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February 1, 2016 9:28pm
stephieboy

Stars And Stripes, the example merely shows how and why you have your bigoted snout stuck in your own pigs slop !
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February 1, 2016 9:33pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Kea
re neofeminists

well considering my age… I can hardly call them sisters….
perhaps daughters and granddaughters
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February 1, 2016 9:41pm
wikiriwhis business

As Top TPP Negotiator Resigns Over Bribery Allegations, 10,000 People Demand Investigation, Call on President Obama, Other Leaders, Not to Sign TPP on Feb. 4

Scandal is latest blow to deeply controversial Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement

WASHINGTON – Yesterday, a top Japanese official in charge of negotiating the controversial Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement resigned over serious allegations of bribery and corruption.

In a rapid response that unfolded overnight, more than 10,000 people signed a petition launched by Fight for the Future demanding an investigation into the bribery allegations and whether they affected the TPP, and called upon President Obama and other world leaders not to sign the agreement on February 4th amid such a scandal.

“No one should be surprised by this, and it’s hard to imagine that Mr. Amari is the only official involved in negotiating this massive agreement that has been engaging in this dishonest activity. It’s hard to imagine a more perfect example of why the TPP should never become law,” said Evan Greer, campaign director of Fight for the Future, a digital rights group that has fiercely opposed the deal, “Decisions that affect billions of people should never be made in secret. Shutting journalists, experts, and the public out of the drafting of these agreements literally guarantees that there will be corruption, and the final text speaks for itself, reading like a wishlist for politically powerful and incumbent corporations.”

Investigators claim that Akira Amari, Japan’s chief economic minister, accepted bribes worth more than $148,000 from a major construction company. It’s unclear whether the bribes were related to the TPP itself, but the public is demanding answers.

The petition, which quickly went viral on social media and was tweeted thousands of times, reads, “Signing the TPP while there are serious allegations of corruption concerning one of its top negotiators would be reckless and anti-democratic. Do not sign the TPP. We demand a full investigation into these bribery charges and a review of all officials involved in TPP negotiations.”

Fight for the Future intends to deliver the signatures to President Obama early next week before the February 4th date when world leaders have expressed their intention to sign the TPP.

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2016/01/29/top-tpp-negotiator-resigns-over-bribery-allegations-10000-people-demand
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February 1, 2016 9:43pm
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Brilliant move by Andrew Little. Three years of free tertiary education for all! Luckily the current tax and spend National govt raised the GST in 2011 so there will be plenty of money in the coffers when Little takes the reins. Isn’t it ironic that Labour introduced GST but The Nat govts hiked it? And then say, sorry there’s no money for tertiary education? I’d say the books are all out of whack because of the write downs.
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I gave you a mega thumbs up for telling the 100% truth. These sycophantic wankers cannot handle the fact that their once conservative thinking party has been hijacked by wet liberal progressives who don’t stand for anything and are slowly marching left past Labour. What a disgrace.
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February 1, 2016 10:05pm
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” The Big Short forces you to look at your world with fresh eyes. I’d recommend it for anyone sure that Auckland’s “Big Long” is a sure thing. ”

Excellent post. But you talking to dreamers who think right wing politicians are the answer to the worlds problems and their vested interests. They have no idea how evil and how agendered Politicians and bankers are with each other. The exact word to describe it is Fascism.
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February 1, 2016 10:08pm
Jack5

Dame Devoid expands her role from race relations by pushing for an increase in NZ’s refugee quota. You can here her talking to Leftist Campbell of Checkpoint on Radio NZ’s Labour Programme. She’s also planning a new anti-racism campaign, financed of course by taxpayers.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/201787647/race-relations-commissioner-plans-new-anti-racism-campaign
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February 1, 2016 11:55pm
Manolo

Another union behind Angry Andy and Labour: http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/union-seeks-40-per-cent-wage-hike/ar-BBoY73l?li=AAaeXZz&ocid=mailsignoutmd

A union representing almost 30,000 workers is calling on the government to hike the minimum wage by 40% cent over the next three years.

The FIRST union, which advocates for finance, industrial, retail, stores and transport workers, wants the current rate of $14.75 increased to $20.65 in 2018.
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February 2, 2016 6:48am
Manolo

@Stars and Stripes: I share your concern for the three. The deceased crims are just doing fine.
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February 2, 2016 6:51am
igm

Geoffrey Palmer’s sickly socialist legislation strikes again. This time in the Masterton disaster . . . how does this pathetic charlatan sleep at night! Children and Young Persons Amendent Act must be repealed.
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