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Shawn Herles

In Defense of Zionism.

The often reviled ideology that gave rise to Israel has been an astonishing historical success.

“They come from every corner of the country—investment bankers, farmers, computer geeks, jazz drummers, botany professors, car mechanics—leaving their jobs and their families. They put on uniforms that are invariably too tight or too baggy, sign out their gear and guns. Then, scrambling onto military vehicles, 70,000 reservists—women and men—join the young conscripts of what is proportionally the world’s largest citizen army. They all know that some of them will return maimed or not at all. And yet, without hesitation or (for the most part) complaint, proudly responding to the call-up, Israelis stand ready to defend their nation. They risk their lives for an idea.

The idea is Zionism. It is the belief that the Jewish people should have their own sovereign state in the Land of Israel. Though founded less than 150 years ago, the Zionist movement sprung from a 4,000-year-long bond between the Jewish people and its historic homeland, an attachment sustained throughout 20 centuries of exile. This is why Zionism achieved its goals and remains relevant and rigorous today. It is why citizens of Israel—the state that Zionism created—willingly take up arms. They believe their idea is worth fighting for.”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/in-defense-of-zionism-1406918952
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February 18, 2016 8:03am
stephieboy

I bring glad tidings of joyous, albeit entirely predictable news ,

Compensation blow: David Bain not ‘innocent beyond reasonable doubt’
6:44 AM Thursday Feb 18, 2016

• Confidential report finds David Bain not “innocent beyond reasonable doubt” • Finding means he does not meet the “extraordinary circumstances” test for a compensation claim of wrongful imprisonment. • Estimated $1m has been spent on considering Bain’s bid

David Bain has suffered another blow in his compensation claim for wrongful imprisonment following a confidential report by a senior judge found he did not meet the threshold of “innocent beyond reasonable doubt”.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11591317
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February 18, 2016 8:05am
Captain Mainwaring

So the Greens can’t understand why it is that the number of those in prison has reached record levels at a time when crime is reducing.
Of course nobody would expect such a dopey bunch to figure out that it’s hard for criminals to engage in criminal activity when they’re locked up.
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February 18, 2016 8:05am
B.L.Zeebub

About time we got some common sense applied to this entire fucking Bain circus.
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February 18, 2016 8:08am
Shawn Herles

” it’s hard for criminals to engage in criminal activity when they’re locked up.”

That’s called commonsense. You won’t find a hint of it in the Green party.
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February 18, 2016 8:08am
igm

Teachers aligned to doctrine of their unions are again making news for disgusting behaviour involving students. Thank goodness we now have Charter Schools where decent people teach children, not perverts, and union dominated flotsam.
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February 18, 2016 8:09am
Paulus Gnome

Small crumb of comfort for the slain Bain family:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11591317

‘Ian Callinan, QC, a retired judge from Australia, was asked to advise whether he is satisfied that Mr Bain has proven he is innocent of murder on the “balance of probabilities” and, if so, whether he is also satisfied Mr Bain has proven he is innocent “beyond reasonable doubt”.

The Horrid understands that the judge did not find that Mr Bain is innocent beyond reasonable doubt — the benchmark for “extraordinary circumstances” required for compensation under previous guidelines.’

David and wingman Joe won’t get anything for the heinous crime and for assisting in covering it up; awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, bugger! (Experiencing a small inward smile of satisfaction me)
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February 18, 2016 8:10am
mikenmild

igm
You believe it to be impossible for a teacher at a charter school to misbehave?
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February 18, 2016 8:11am
Paulus Gnome

Very good SH! so early in the morning and so true about the gweens!
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February 18, 2016 8:12am
calendar girl

I’ll get in before the usual gainsayers and say “Congratulations!” to Ritchie McCaw for his New Zealander of the Year Award.

Well merited
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February 18, 2016 8:12am
igm

milkwimp: Show me an example . . . I would expect this from you, one who is strongly involved in PSA, and teachers’ unions.
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February 18, 2016 8:12am
holysheet

The socialist leaches are at it again. The childrens commissioner is complaining that his useless organisation hasn’t had an increase in funding for 7 years. Boo hoo, if it was up to me he would be out of a job quick smart. His and the family’s commission are both a waste of taxpayers money and this can be laid squarely at the feet of the useless liabore whore Peter Dunne.
Talk about a waste of space.
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February 18, 2016 8:13am
Left Right and Centre

I’ll get in before the usual gainsayers and say “Congratulations!” to Ritchie McCaw for his New Zealander of the Year Award.

Richie
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February 18, 2016 8:14am
mikenmild

What about this guy? Not sexual misconduct, but there are only a handful of charter schools. There seems to be no good reason to suppose that the (small) incidence of teacher misconduct would be any lower at charter schools.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/65639264/New-principal-under-investigation
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February 18, 2016 8:14am
Griff

Time to post bainty thread DPF

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bainty
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February 18, 2016 8:15am
igm

milkwimp: Don’t try and hide facts, unionised teachers in many State schools are perverts, being protected by people such as you.
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February 18, 2016 8:17am
Albert_Ross

I see Brian Rudman is moaning about the flag process in the Herald, focusing in particular on the point that there weren’t any DESIGNERS on the panel.

These DESIGNERS really have to ask themselves what they are saying by harping on this point. That they are incapable of winning a design competition unless their friends are among the judges? That the choice of something that is supposed to represent all of us should be a matter for a small elite only? That they couldn’t design something that has popular appeal, or that popular appeal isn’t a relevant consideration in the design of a national flag?

They had every opportunity, as did we all, to meet the panel, to make the case as to what the panel should be looking for, and to listen to conversations about what people wanted in a flag design. If they didn’t take those opportunities, or if they did and still failed to persuade the panel of their points or come up with something that would meet the design brief, then that is nobody’s fault but their own.
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February 18, 2016 8:17am
waikatogirl

Calendar gril
I’ll get in before the usual gainsayers and say “Congratulations!” to Ritchie McCaw for his New Zealander of the Year Award.

Well merited
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I agree Cg
Congratulations Richie. Very well deserved!
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February 18, 2016 8:18am
Shawn Herles

Oxford Labour Leader Quits Due To ‘Poisonous’ Anti-Semitic Hamas Supporting Students

“In a Facebook announcement, Alex Chalmers slammed “senior members of the club expressing their ‘solidarity’ with Hamas and explicitly defending their tactics of indiscriminately murdering civilians”, and said that concerns about anti-Semitism were dismissed as “just the Zionists crying wolf”.

He also said the club’s Executive was prone to “throwing around the term ‘Zio’ (a term for Jews usually confined to websites run by the Ku Klux Klan) with casual abandon”, and stated that, “a large proportion of both OULC and the student left in Oxford more generally have some kind of problem with Jews”.

The final sticking point for Mr. Chalmers seems to be the OULC voting to support the Oxford Israeli Apartheid Week, described by him as “a movement with a history of targeting and harassing Jewish students and inviting antisemitic speakers to campuses”.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/16/oxford-labour-leader-quits-due-to-poisonous-anti-semitic-hamas-supporting-students/
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February 18, 2016 8:20am
Manolo

It has been announced several times:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/269592-seven-times-pundits-predicted-donald-trumps-downfall
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February 18, 2016 8:21am
Left Right and Centre

Job listing: Customer Banking Consultant – Mandarin speaker pr

Cultural diversity . . . how I love thee.

To be a successful candidate for these positions you will need the following:

– Be able working hard and long-time standing
– Be able to lift heavy material weighing 5-15kg
– Be reliable and responsible person work on time
– have driver licence would be advantage, we provide parking port.
– Ability to work in a fast paced team environment

Ah – my good friends the old school orientals who prefer a sharp whip to a verbal warning and are still providing a parking port for employees who may wish to commute by private water vessel.
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February 18, 2016 8:22am
Sofia

Mr Binnie told the Herald the Government should take its lead from the court of public opinion and compensate Mr Bain for wrongful imprisonment.

This is a comment that suggests two things –
1) Canadian Judge Ian Binnie has not ever read any kiwiblog thread on Bain, and
2) Ian Binnie has not at all followed the “change the flag referendum”

As already suggested by Griff, I hope DPF shortly puts up a Bain post and that can go to about the usual 800 comments without totally inundating General Debate with Binnie’s “court of public opinion”.
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February 18, 2016 8:23am
Lance

And well done Lydia Ko as young NZer of the year
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February 18, 2016 8:24am
waikatogirl

Bain doesn’t reach the threshold for compensation.

Good.
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February 18, 2016 8:24am
stephieboy

Shawn Herles , laudable sentiments that don’t go far enough ,forgetting the Palestinian factor. Peace in the Middle East will always be elusive infill that issue is resolved .The Jews were expelled form the holly lands 70 AD and the former Judeca became the Roman Province Palestine ,

Thats history !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_diaspora#Roman_destruction_of_Judea
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February 18, 2016 8:26am
doggone7

igm @ 8:09 am “Teachers aligned to doctrine of their unions are again making news for disgusting behaviour involving students.”

Take this statement to the charter school I was at yesterday and give it to the kids there for critical analysis. (And the bit with the implication that teachers in non-charter schools are perverts too.)

With their skills and discrimination, a bit of scrutiny and dissection, the 14/15 year olds would likely conclude that the statements are patent nonsense constructed by some rabid fanatic.
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February 18, 2016 8:27am
Lance

@stephieboy

Are you seriously suggesting there will be a great outpouring of peace across the middle east if the Jews left Israel?

I call bullshit on that

In fact I can see the fighting getting worse, much worse without Israel. Without a common enemy the nation vs nation attacks will intensify
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February 18, 2016 8:30am
Lance

@stephieboy
When I was in Israel (1989-90) there were was the Lebanon civil war. In one incident (near the Israeli border as it turned out) where an entire bus of people were killed.
The reason….

One village had insulted another……… 30 years ago!!!!
And this was payback
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February 18, 2016 8:34am
cmm

@ BLZeebub:
“About time we got some common sense applied to this entire fucking Bain circus.”

While there’s money to be made and clickbait to be had, this will stay alive.

While Karam has spent a pile of his own money on this, he has also received $95/hr as a research consultant while his son was paid $120/hr – paid by Joe taxpayer.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2486812/Karam-gets-330-000-in-legal-aid

Careful what you say though… Karam seems keen to sue anyone he can.
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February 18, 2016 8:36am
Keeping Stock

Who, I wonder, leaked the draft of Ian Callinan’s Bain report to the media. It would probably be someone with a vested interest in the matter, quite possibly a financial interest.

On that basis, it is not unreasonable to suggest that a former All Black fullback with a close connection to the case, or someone close to him may be “not innocent beyond a reasonable doubt”.

And FWIW, I concur with Mr Callinan’s assessment of Bain’s guilt or innocence. He should be grateful for his freedom, and he should live out the rest of his life without pushing his luck any further.
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February 18, 2016 8:39am
stephieboy

Lance, I’m not suggesting that at all . Israel has an unquestioned right to exist and the Palestinians also have that right .Until that issue is resolved there can be no peace .

To Obama’s credit he recognises that reality and also by not allowing AIPAC to run his country’s foreign policy !
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February 18, 2016 8:40am
Keeping Stock

If retired Canadian judge Ian Binnie truly believes that matters such as compensation for David Bain should be decided in the “court of public opinion”, then Judith Collins was right to have his report reviewed, and Amy Adams was right to seek a further report. Binnie is behaving like a spoiled child.
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February 18, 2016 8:43am
Shawn Herles

“Lance, I’m not suggesting that at all . Israel has an unquestioned right to exist and the Palestinians also have that right .Until that issue is resolved there can be no peace .”

There are two problems with this. The first is that there is no such thing as a “Palestinian.” The entire concept of a Palestinian people is a fraud. The second is that creating a Palestinian state will not bring peace. It will only create an armed terrorist state.
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February 18, 2016 8:46am
Kimbo

@ Keeping Stock

On that basis, it is not unreasonable to suggest that a former All Black fullback with a close connection to the case

He may come from South Dunedin, but I didn’t know Laurie Mains was a neighbour of the Bains 😉
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February 18, 2016 8:46am
Andrei

The entire concept of a(n) ~~Palestinian~~ American people is a fraud. The second is that creating a(n) ~~Palestinian~~ American state will not bring peace. It has only only created an armed terrorist state.
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February 18, 2016 8:48am
Keeping Stock

@ Kimbo – however did you guess? I thought I might be able to confuse people, and they would straightaway think of …. Kit Fawcett 😀
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February 18, 2016 8:48am
Andrei

American terrorism in the Balkans – note that the Americans went after Orthodox Christians showing to whom they owe allegiance – they even armed Muslims to slaughter them – then when the Government responded to American supported Muslim terrorism used it as an excuse to make war on the Christian people of the Balkans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvYDwBm7iZM
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February 18, 2016 8:55am
stephieboy

Shawn Herles, Fraud ? Because Ziionists say so ?The Palestinians a Semitic people ( Like the jews ) have a presence in the holy land since time immemorial !

They just didn’t suddenly materialise from nowhere !
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February 18, 2016 8:56am
waikatogirl

Bain thread just posted for anyone who wishes to discuss.
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February 18, 2016 9:02am
Kimbo

@ Keeping Stock

@ Kimbo – however did you guess? I thought I might be able to confuse people, and they would straightaway think of …. Kit Fawcett ?

Nah, while Kit may have scored more off the field than on it in his time at Otago Uni, he was originally a Waikato boy passing through Dunedin. My second pick was Duncan Robertson from Zingari-Richmond. After all he was selected as a test fullback ahead of both Mains and Fawcett on two occasions! And the 1976 All Blacks still complain they were robbed by the South African refs…?!

Still, as Joe Karam decided against going on that tour, now he’ll likely be complaining as long and as hard as that team still does.
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February 18, 2016 9:04am
Hajji

The so called, cartoons, in the NZ Herald are just awful.
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February 18, 2016 9:10am
Shawn Herles

“Shawn Herles, Fraud ? Because Ziionists say so ?”

No, because it’s the truth.

“The Palestinians a Semitic people ( Like the jews ) have a presence in the holy land since time immemorial ! ”

No, the “Palestinians” are Arabs, and most are relatively recent arrivals (over the last 80 years or so) in the Holy Land, from Jordan, Egypt and Syria.

“The Myth of Palestinian Peoplehood”

http://lidblog.com/myth-of-palestinian-peoplehood/#
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February 18, 2016 9:17am
stephieboy

Shawn Herles, the Jews have not been in occupation of Palestine since 70 AD . Only as a tiny remanent , a so called presence !
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February 18, 2016 9:22am
Captain Mainwaring

Hajji,
The ‘cartoons’ in the Horrid are fulfilling their purpose, which is to undermine the current government. Just like the ‘cartoons’ in the SST, which are done by some clown who draws like a four year old.
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February 18, 2016 9:27am
peterwn

DomPost headline – ‘Wellington sport in need of a cash kick’ – yes, in the nuts of the long suffering Wellington ratepayer.
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February 18, 2016 9:30am
kowtow

I suspect the shift in left wng sympathies from Israel to the Arabs has more to do with massive Muslim immigration to the west.The Muslims ,through demographics can now dictate to left wing parties their foreign policy. We see it already in Australia .It will onlt be a matter of time before the US Democrats turn on Israel , we already see that with the Muslim backgrounded Obama ,whose father was Muslim and who unlike any other American Presidnt ,attended madrassa.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/12161022/Why-does-Labour-find-it-so-hard-to-weed-out-antisemitism.html
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February 18, 2016 9:34am
Shawn Herles

Far Left German Activist Apologizes to Migrants on Facebook After Being Sexually Assaulted by Migrants

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/02/far-left-german-activist-apologizes-to-migrants-on-facebook-after-being-sexually-assaulted-by-migrants/

The Left: National suicide through collective stupidity.
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February 18, 2016 9:40am
Keeping Stock

Well blow me down with a feather; the Herald has another Max Key story today

A Christchurch radio station has banned Max Key’s new single, saying any DJ who plays it will be “pulled out of the studio by the ponytail”

A Facebook post by alternative music station RDU also threatened to cancel the show of any DJ who played Forget You, the debut single by the Prime Minister’s son.

“We here at RDU have officially banned the new Max Key single Forget You. This is an Anti-TPPA zone (Tune’s Piss Poor Aye) and anyone caught playing the single will be pulled out of the studio by the ponytail and their show will be cancelled,” the post read.

“We indeed would like to Forget You.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11591402

The Herald’s obsession with Max Key is becoming almost stalker-like. Earlier this week, there was an “endorsement” of Key Jnr’s radio programme by none other than Herr Schmitz. And yesterday,there was the most bizarre review of Key Jnr’s DJ hour you could ever want to read from none other than that master or sarcasm (which I was taught at high school was the lowest form of wit), Steve Braunias.

Of course, imagine the Left’s outrage if the same sort of media obsession was happening with Andrew Little’s wife or son. The Odour of Sanctimony would be overpowering.

Still, let’s look of the bright side; there’s a new round of political polls due out in the next few weeks, and if Key Derangement Syndrome continues to ravage the Left, we can only imagine how low their polling might descend. Then Max Key could maybe write a song about it 😀
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February 18, 2016 9:46am
Manolo

Erdogan’s Turkey receives a gift from savage radical Islam:
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/ankara-blast-kills-and-injures-large-number/ar-BBpDkMW?li=AAaeXZz&ocid=mailsignoutmd

At least 28 people were killed and dozens injured after an explosion hit the Turkish capital of Ankara. Police said a car bomb was detonated near a military headquarters, sending dark smoke billowing into the sky.
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February 18, 2016 9:46am
Manolo

Money talks. The Chinese are trying to buy the Chicago Stock Exchange.
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-02-17/congress-is-wary-of-chinese-deal-for-chicago-stock-exchange

The Chicago Stock Exchange announced this month that it would be sold to a consortium led by the Chongqing Casin Investment Group of China, a move that would inject needed resources into the exchange and give the Chinese firm a foothold in the $22 trillion U.S. equities marketplace.
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February 18, 2016 10:02am
mikenmild

KS
Thanks for alerting me to this. It was actually quite good. It’s not really taking a shot at Max Key, who hasn’t done anything to mock really, yet:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/Steve-Braunias/news/article.cfm?a_id=974&objectid=11590950
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February 18, 2016 10:13am
RalphT

The more times Max Key is banned the better. The result can only be more pissed off voters and the maintenance of National’s poll numbers. Some people never learn.
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February 18, 2016 10:14am
Liberty

It’s a sad day when the New Zealander of the year
Is just a Rugby player.
There is more to life than rugby.
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February 18, 2016 10:36am
Colville

Max Key is playing a night show on George FM.
Feedback was good about his music and bad about him because people couldn’t get over that fact he is JK’s son.

Even the morning show announcers (who are both so lefty to be horizontal) said that if he had used another name he would be a lot more popular.

Max seemed to be happy to take his fathers name as a cross he must bear and just do the work reqd to get started.
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February 18, 2016 10:37am
Lance

@ralphT
Yes, and dildo throwing and TPPA protesters disrupting central Auckland with no clue at all what they are protesting about will have middle NZ flocking to the left.

Keep up the strategy guys.. you’re onto a winner
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February 18, 2016 10:39am
James Stephenson

Feedback was good about his music and bad about him because people couldn’t get over that fact he is JK’s son.

George FM. We’ve finally found something that JK has failed at – namely bringing his son up with any taste in music. I’m sure Paula can sort that out for you John.
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February 18, 2016 10:46am
Fletch

In case you missed it – if it barks like a dog….

https://youtu.be/q0ehBHrCyNY?t=41s
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February 18, 2016 10:47am
mikenmild

Liberty
Richie McCaw is just a rugby player.
Hmm…Try these previous winners:
Ray Avery was just a doctor
Paul Callaghan was just a scientist
Richard Taylor was just a film-maker
Anne Salmond was just a historian
Lance O’Sullivan was just a doctor
Stephen Tindall was just a businessman
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February 18, 2016 10:47am
Fletch

Hillary’s 2 minute coughing fit, the second such attack in less than a month on the campaign trail. To be honest, I don’t think the woman is well enough to be president.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C12ZvOJNfs

It’s not Clinton’s first debilitating coughing fit. During a speech before a Jewish group in Des Moines one week before the Iowa caucus, she was forced to halt for nearly a minute while she coughed uncontrollably.

It also happened during last October’s Benghazi Committee hearing. Clinton’s two-minute bout of coughing was so severe during questioning that both chairman Trey Gowdy and ranking member Elijah Cummings asked if she needed a break.

The problem goes back even further. During a 2012 visit to Hanoi while she was secretary of state, Clinton was beset by a minute-long coughing fit. And in 2008, she was forced to cut short a television interview on her presidential campaign due to an uncontrollable cough.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/431477/clinton-coughing-fit
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February 18, 2016 10:51am
Salacious Crumb

mikenmild@10:47

Well said.

It is the traits that are the embodiment of these individuals not their particular fields that have set them apart.

It’s a small list of New Zealanders that have generated the genuine respect and affection from the wider population like McCaw has.
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February 18, 2016 11:01am
Jack5

More examples of the diversity dividend, and the benefits of multiculturalism.

Serious Fraud Office says immigration from countries with other cultures undermines NZ’s squeaky-clean reputation on corruption.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11591368
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February 18, 2016 11:15am
Manolo

Has Phil Ure moved to NY?
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/offbeat/a-new-yorker-lost-his-wallet-and-got-the-most-new-york-note-imaginable/ar-BBpC1S3?li=AAaeXZz&ocid=mailsignoutmd
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February 18, 2016 11:16am
starboard

The writings to neat Manolo, cant be Ure..
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February 18, 2016 11:34am
kowtow

NZer of the year is simply corporate self prmotion under the guise of recognising others’ efforts.

A waste of money and time.
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February 18, 2016 11:36am
Hajji

@ Captain Mainwaring

“Hajji,
The ‘cartoons’ in the Horrid are fulfilling their purpose, which is to undermine the current government. Just like the ‘cartoons’ in the SST, which are done by some clown who draws like a four year old.”

Agreed.

But they could at least be witty.
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February 18, 2016 11:38am
Jack5

Now it’s ethnic cleansing of plants?

Not only do they dislike the South Island’s beautiful lupins but they sneer at a prize-winning photograph of them.

You get the feeling that the most-purist Greenies would like to get rid of all the agriculture in NZ, then the pines, then the cities and the non-Maori, then the Maori and the introduced birds (including the self-introduced blown from Australia) and introduced flowers.

Finally a few score purists could wander in rapture through NZ refashioned to be as it was 2000 years ago, perhaps even with cloned moa.

http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/is-this-image-of-new-zealands-lupins-a-dream-or-a-nightmare/ar-BBpCHtW
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February 18, 2016 11:46am
Jack5

Re Manolo at 11.16.

Didn’t P. Ure do time for armed robbery? That would rule him out of the US.
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February 18, 2016 11:48am
pentwig

mikenmild@10:47

Well done Milky. I even gave you an uptick. Have to go and have another shower now though. And 10 more hail marys.
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February 18, 2016 11:53am
starboard

Jack5..yes Philip Ure robbed a pharmacy ..P Ure is a convicted robber…a violent armed robber. He doesnt like it though when you bring the subject up. P Ure also used to drive buses in AKL for the old ARA, before drugs ruined him.
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February 18, 2016 12:01pm
Kimbo

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Jack5..yes Philip Ure robbed a pharmacy ..P Ure is a convicted robber…a violent armed robber. He doesnt like it though when you bring the subject up. P Ure also used to drive buses in AKL for the old ARA, before drugs ruined him.

Nasty bastard – but not as bad as his crimes against the English language.
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February 18, 2016 12:04pm
Manolo

Will stephieboy approve? Could these animals be the ones who make the sands glow in the Middle East?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3451359/ISIS-feared-obtained-highly-dangerous-radioactive-material-stolen-firm-Iraq-used-make-dirty-bomb.html

Islamic State terrorists are feared to have obtained ‘highly dangerous’ radioactive material that could be used as a weapon in their war against the West.

The Iraqi government is searching for the material, stored in a protective case the size of a laptop, after it was stolen in November from a storage facility near the southern city of Basra.
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February 18, 2016 12:28pm
stigie

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Wasn’t he ruined when he forced his dogs to become “vegan”… ?
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February 18, 2016 12:34pm
VicParking

Richie is also the fixed wing, glider and helicopter pilot. Director of a number of companies. Participates in a number of other sports mainly to raise money for charity. I terrific role model, name any scandal he has been linked to. And when you get to talk to him a realy nice bloke. I doubt your additiced critics could evan fly a helcopter on xbox let along getting near a real one because you would not be able to pass the theory exams.
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February 18, 2016 12:35pm
stigie

Maybe Richie has been an excellent role model for Dad, the anger is not there like it use to be !~
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February 18, 2016 12:38pm
kowtow

Good article on BDS and local council shenanigens in the UK.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/12162084/Jews-know-that-a-boycott-is-just-the-beginning.html
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February 18, 2016 12:39pm
mikenmild

Vic
Yes, of all the reasons to name Richie the New Zealander of the Year, I am quite sure that his mastery of the air was the most conclusive for the judges.
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February 18, 2016 1:00pm
Albert_Ross

Now it’s ethnic cleansing of plants?

Not only do they dislike the South Island’s beautiful lupins but they sneer at a prize-winning photograph of them.

The article neither dislikes nor sneers. It emphasises more than once that both the photograph and the plants are very beautiful.

However, beauty does not equal goodness or ecological benefit. Beautiful plants, just like animals, can do just as much damage – environmental, ecological, economic – as ugly ones. Tigers are very beautiful and one of them splashing through the Shotover River would make for a terrific photograph, but this is not to say that it would be a good idea to let a few of them loose in the Otago countryside. Stoats are actually quite handsome creatures but that does not make them welcome in Fjordland. The fact that lupins look gorgeous in photographs does not atone for the damage they do to local wildlife.
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February 18, 2016 1:00pm
Manolo

The treasonous policies of the Obama administration:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/02/17/freed-gitmo-detainee-ex-bin-laden-aide-cements-place-as-top-jihadist-in-videos.html?intcmp=hpbt1

When Ibrahim al Qosi was released from Guantanamo Bay in 2012, a lawyer for the former Usama bin Laden aide said he looked forward to living a life of peace in his native Sudan.

Three years later, Qosi has emerged as a prominent voice of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, appearing in a number of AQAP propaganda videos — including a 50-minute lecture calling for the takeover of Saudi Arabia.
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February 18, 2016 1:05pm
Kea

Shawn Herles (12,277 comments) says:
February 18th, 2016 at 8:03 am
In Defense of Zionism.

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The Culture of Deceit
The Book of Esther is another fascinating tale of deceit in which Esther, a beautiful Jewish woman, insinuates herself into the inner court of a powerful king but keeps secret her Jewish identity. Eventually, she is able to both save her fellow Jews and have the king kill her enemy, Haman, and his ten sons. The Jews then kill 75,000 others with the approval of the king: “The Jews struck down all their enemies with the sword, killing and destroying them, and they did what they pleased to those who hated them” (Est. 9:5). Meanwhile, her cousin Mordecai assumes a prominent position in the royal court.

To this day, Jews celebrate these acts of deception and political murder as the holiday of Purim. This is an important indication that fraud and deception are part of the official ideology of Judaism.

In some ways it is sobering to think that some two thousand years after Esther and her cousin Mordecai used cunning to acquire great status and dispatch enemies, a similar pattern exists in the modern world.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2009/08/the-culture-of-deceit/
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February 18, 2016 1:14pm
Kea

Shawn Herles (12,277 comments) says:
February 18th, 2016 at 8:03 am
In Defense of Zionism.

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“The best of the gentiles: kill him; the best of snakes: smash its skull; the best of women: is filled with witchcraft.” Kiddushin 66c The uncensored version of this text appears in Tractate Soferim (New York, M. Higer, 1937), 15:7, p. 282. “The best of the gentiles should all be killed” (http://talmudical.blogspot.com). From the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, ‘Gentile,’ (p. 617).
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February 18, 2016 1:16pm
Kea

Jews were just a tribal cult that emerged from a long established population. As did many others in the region.
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Where Do Jews Come From?
By EVAN R. GOLDSTEIN

This much is known: In the mid-eighth century, the ruling elite of the Khazars, a Turkic tribe in Eurasia, converted to Judaism. Their impetus was political, not spiritual.

In a new book, “The Invention of the Jewish People,” the Tel Aviv University professor of history argues that large numbers of Khazar Jews migrated westward into Ukraine, Poland and Lithuania, where they played a decisive role in the establishment of Eastern European Jewry. The implications are far-reaching: If the bulk of Eastern European Jews are the descendents of Khazars—not the ancient Israelites—then most Jews have no ancestral links to Palestine. Put differently: If most Jews are not Semites, then what justification is there for a Jewish state in the Middle East? By attempting to demonstrate the Khazar origins of Eastern European Jewry, Mr. Sand—a self-described post-Zionist who believes that Israel needs to shed its Jewish identity to become a democracy—aims to undermine the idea of a Jewish state.

Published in Hebrew last year, “The Invention of the Jewish People” was a best seller in Israel. In March, the French translation, also a best seller, received the prestigious Aujourd’hui Award, which honors the year’s best nonfiction book.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703746604574464023091024180
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February 18, 2016 1:31pm
geoff3012

Fletch (8,399 comments) says:
February 18th, 2016 at 10:51 am
Hillary’s 2 minute coughing fit, the second such attack in less than a month on the campaign trail

Nah.

Fur balls
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February 18, 2016 1:38pm
Manolo

Putin continues to take the piss. Poor Obama.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/17/moscow-anti-smoking-campaign-uses-obamas-image

A Moscow advert declaring that “smoking kills more people than Obama” has gone viral, becoming the latest in a string of actions condemning the US president as a mass killer.
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February 18, 2016 1:48pm
Manolo

@Kea: I salute you as a true survivor. 🙂
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February 18, 2016 1:50pm
wikiriwhis business

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We have never seen the Prime Minister look so weak. Today it looks as if he has lost his strong and choking grip on his previously loyal party.

For the first time since 2006 the National Party is showing voters an unstable organisation which is no longer unanimously behind the Prime Minister.

At parliament this afternoon the Prime Minister was asked whether it was a sign of instability after emails were leaked showing two crisis meetings organised by National’s North Shore MP and silver fern advocate Maggie Barry.

The Prime Minister maneuvered the question in his favour, telling reporters that “MPs meet all the time” and this was nothing new.

That’s correct. But emails being leaked by a supposedly loyal MP? That’s entirely new, and extremely damaging to the Prime Minister’s long-held public perception of being a leader who is supported by his colleagues. National, in contrast to Labour, has until now suffered no leadership questions. Tonight that changes.

https://insightnz.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/leaked-emails-herald-new-age-of-instability/
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February 18, 2016 2:17pm
wikiriwhis business

“Careful what you say though… Karam seems keen to sue anyone he can.”

And he always wins cause he was right all along
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February 18, 2016 2:21pm
publicwatchdog

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Good.

Glad to have helped.
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Housing intensification debate deferred

Thursday, 18 February 2016
The New Zealand Herald

Len Brown has postponed the housing intensification debate after recognising the need to take the views of the community on board.
By Bernard Orsman

Auckland Mayor Len Brown is deferring the controversial issue of rezoning thousands of homes for intensification until next Wednesday.

The issue was down to be debated at today’s governing meeting, but after a delegation of five councillors met with Mr Brown last night the mayor decided to delay the issue.

Mr Brown said he recognised the need to reflect the views of the community and the need to be a “little bit flexible in this space”.

“This is the most significant plan change this city has every seen, or likely to see,” Mr Brown said.

Councillors are receiving a briefing on the Unitary Plan this afternoon, which will help inform what happens at next Wednesday’s extraordinary governing body meeting.

Next week’s meeting will allow for public input from groups such as Auckland 2040, which has accused the council of abandoning the consultative process in the Unitary Plan.
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Penny Bright
2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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February 18, 2016 2:38pm
wikiriwhis business

John Key: New Zealand prime minister’s weirdest moments (so far)

As his pulling of a waitress’s ponytail goes to show, when it comes to awkward interactions and break-outs of foot-in-mouth, the New Zealand prime minister John Key gives his Australian counterpart, Tony Abbott, a run for his money

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/22/john-key-new-zealand-prime-ministers-weirdest-moments-so-far?CMP=share_btn_fb
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February 18, 2016 2:39pm
sooty

Oh shit the mad bitch is back, flinging shit from left to right! Down ticking, here we go!
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February 18, 2016 2:47pm
Manolo

Will the race tighten after this?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/17/sc-gov-nikki-haley-to-endorse-rubio.html?intcmp=hpbt1

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley officially endorsed Florida Sen. Marco Rubio ahead of Saturday’s primary in the Palmetto State.
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February 18, 2016 2:49pm
Manolo

Is the bludger expecting a “random act of kindness” from her generous Mecenas the German crook to pay her ever-growing debt to Auckland Council?
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February 18, 2016 2:51pm
Northshoredoc

I fully support Ms Bright’s legal right to appeal the courts decision.

I would also demand that if she looses on appeal that any costs incurred by the council in relation to Ms Bright’s appeal are clawed back.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11591773
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February 18, 2016 2:55pm
stigie

Victoria Crone for Mayor of Auckland Council :-
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February 18, 2016 2:56pm
James Stephenson

Now it’s ethnic cleansing of plants?

Hand over your lupins!

https://youtu.be/qLkhx0eqK5w
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February 18, 2016 3:02pm
publicwatchdog

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Do ‘Generation Zero’ support the ‘out of scope’ changes passed behind closed doors, at the 9 December 2015 Unitary Plan Committee meeting – which both excluded the public, and did not go to the Auckland Council Governing Body before being submitted to the Auckland Unitary Plan Independent Hearings Panel?

Does ‘Generation Zero’ support lawful ‘due process’ and the ‘Rule of Law’ regarding the development, amendment and implementation of the Auckland ‘spatial plan’ – yes or no?

Is this still the position of ‘Generation Zero’?

http://i.stuff.co.nz/auckland/75219048/Aucklands-controversial-new-residential-zoning-maps-released

But urban environmental group Generation Zero supported the reduction of the Single House zone.

“Auckland has a serious housing shortage, we need to allow new houses to be built in existing suburbs across the city,” Auckland convener Leroy Beckett said.

“This is the best option as it prevents sprawl and allows people to be closer to where they live, work and socialise.”

He pointed out that under the proposed changes a quarter of the city was still Single House, “a zone that totally restricts any development”.

“We are disappointed that still only 5 per cent of the city is zoned for terrace housing and apartment buildings – this is not enough to meet demand for this type of living.”

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________________________

Anyone know?

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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February 18, 2016 3:03pm
Shawn Herles

kea, yesterday you accused me of having been on the Stormfront web site. Today you’re quoting The Occidental Observer.

Did you know it ia a white supremacist web site?

Naughty, naughty! 🙂
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February 18, 2016 3:03pm
Nostradamus

I’d like to comment on the issues of the day – but I need to buy a new mouse first, as the scroll wheel on my current mouse is now broken, thanks to you-know-who!
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February 18, 2016 3:06pm
Shawn Herles

“Bain thread just posted for anyone who wishes to discuss.”

Thank God for that! 🙂
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February 18, 2016 3:10pm
Awww C-mon

Penny, back with your slander and mis-truths huh, thought it wouldn’t take long for the narcissism to kick in, do you want to apologise to KS yet?

[DPF: You are slow to catch on to acceptable standards. That is strike 3 and a week suspension]
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February 18, 2016 3:12pm
wikiriwhis business

Coming to New Keyland soon

Camping on Your Own Land is Now Illegal – Government Waging War on Off-Grid Living

Costilla County, CO — Across the U.S., local zoning officials are making it increasingly difficult for people to go off the grid, in some instances threatening people with jail time for collecting rainwater or not hooking into local utilities.
As zoning laws have increasingly targeted the off-grid lifestyle, many have moved to the Southwestern U.S. as an escape from overzealous zoning officials. In Costilla County, Colorado, there has been a major influx of off-grid residents to the San Luis Valley. The combination of lax zoning regulations, cheap property, and an already thriving community of self-reliant off-grid homesteaders has led to many new residents.
The off-grid lifestyle, enjoyed by an estimated 800 people, is now being threatened as county officials have recently made moves to essentially regulate and license the lifestyle into oblivion.
ensions boiled over during a county commissioners’ meeting in San Louis, Colorado, devolving into a shouting match between homesteaders and police. One of the major points of contention is the county’s attempt to ban camping on your own property, in an effort to force the off-grid homesteaders back onto the grid.
“We are residents who have come to live off the grid. It’s all our land.” … “These are harsh economic times. We have nowhere to go,” twenty-year resident Paul Skinner said.
“We’ve been regulated out of life,” homesteader Robin Rutan told Colorado Public Radio. “I came here because I couldn’t live by the codes [in other regions].”
The county, which requires residents to have a camping permit to live in an RV, “small house” or other camp style home, has started to simply refuse the renewal of these permits.
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