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February 15, 2016 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 15 February 2016

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Shunda barunda

yip belief without proof is rational.
in your tiny deluded little world.

And in the “tiny deluded little world” of many of the worlds greatest scientists that based their investigations on intuition rather than hard rationalism.

You really do appear to have a very narrow understanding of the human race.
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February 15, 2016 9:17pm
Kea

Awwwful, I get your point. And agree with it. A very good summary of all my posts on matters religious.

“men are the same the world over, despite our different cultures we are all…

Suckers for gold, girls and glory.”
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February 15, 2016 9:17pm
Awww C-mon

Actually thanks for that link Griff, the intro reads

“Billions of years ago – more than 14 billion years – there was nothing: no matter, no energy, no space. Scientists needed a way to explain how everything began, where it came from, what happened. Although there are several different theories about the origins of the universe, the Big Bang theory is the prevalent one because no other model is as good at explaining everything in the universe. The Big Bang theory isn’t perfect, but it’s the best we’ve got.

Contrary to popular belief, the Big Bang was not an explosion
Big Bang Was Not an Explosion
Scientists believe our universe comes from a singularity. Scientists don’t actually know where this singularity came from or exactly what it is, but they do know that a singularity is an infinitely small, hot area of infinite pressure and density. These singularities defy our known laws of physics because they didn’t appear in space. Rather, space began inside them. Before the singularity, nothing existed. There was no space, no time, no matter, no energy.

Kinda what I was saying, best theory but not provable
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February 15, 2016 9:17pm
Kea

““tiny little world” of many of the worlds greatest scientists that based their investigations on intuition”

Shunda barunda , yes indeed against a background of evidence. But what proves the hypothesis is evidence, not intuition or speculation.

Science extends the same invitation to people who claim god exists. The ball is in your court sunshine.
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February 15, 2016 9:21pm
Shunda barunda

Kinda what I was saying, best theory but not provable

And it also opens up some intriguing philosophical questions.

We have perhaps proven that a reality devoid of space, time and all known physical laws initiated this vast fish bowl we exist in.
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February 15, 2016 9:23pm
nasska

….”And it also opens up some intriguing philosophical questions”….

…..but provides no solid proof to answer them.

Just more faith based horseshit along the line of “Skydaddy did it…..Hallelujah & pass the collection plate round!” 🙂
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February 15, 2016 9:26pm
Kea

Awwwwful, it makes no difference if science can explain the beginning of the universe, or if Darwin was right.

Neither lends any weight at all to the existence of the super natural, least of all the recent invention of the biblical god.

All we know is that science has elevated humanity and superstition has dragged it down to the most base level. That is proven.
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February 15, 2016 9:28pm
Shunda barunda

Just more faith based horseshit along the line of “Skydaddy did it…..pass the collection plate!”

So nasska, your opinion is that people ought not contemplate the first cause?

The scientific method is bound by the laws of this universe, kind of seems foolish to try and do the equivalent of digging a hole in the ocean with a shovel don’t you think?
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February 15, 2016 9:30pm
Awww C-mon

But Nasska, neither side has absolute proof!

I don’t wanna be the guy on here trying to persuade one thought or the other, I’m just saying both have holes you can drive a bus through and ironically both require faith ????
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February 15, 2016 9:30pm
nasska

AwwwC-mon

Nasska’s Razor holds that he who puts up a figment of his imagination as a fact gets to prove it while I get to rubbish it. 🙂
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February 15, 2016 9:35pm
starboard

I dont now why the coppers fuck around with pepper spray..dealing with violent brown filth like these cretins, they should be just using hollow points..

http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/76921616/children-caught-up-in-confrontation-with-police-in-mangere
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February 15, 2016 9:38pm
Awww C-mon

“Nasska’s Razor holds that he who puts up a figment of his imagination as a fact gets to prove it while I get to rubbish it. :)”

and that Nasska explains my man-crush ?
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February 15, 2016 9:44pm
Awww C-mon

Starboard, kids shouldn’t be peppered sprayed or see relatives being shot!

However tazers would have been fantastic, give’em a few volts and explain things to the kids

” see guys when uncle calls me a pig I pull this trigger and he dances a little, if stops I don’t pull the trigger”

Whoops there he goes again, trigger time! Rangi would you like to pull the trigger on uncle? Oh good work Rangi, yup let him have it! You would be a good cop when you grow up Rangi!
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February 15, 2016 9:51pm
starboard

kids are feral as well AC, lost causes..beat them all.
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February 15, 2016 9:56pm
Kea

“starboard (4,149 comments) says:
February 15th, 2016 at 9:38 pm
I dont now why the coppers fuck around with pepper spray..dealing with violent brown filth like these cretins, they should be just using hollow points..”

Fucking Christians eh ! Those “brown filth” are right into Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus.
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February 15, 2016 9:57pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Kea @Awww-C-mon

Suckers for gold, girls and glory

Now who do you reckon is going to strike the jackpot?….. The scientist or the priest?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35542708
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February 15, 2016 9:57pm
starboard

hypocrites..off to church on Sunday in their whites, out raping and robbing Monday thru Saturday..shut the doors and burn the lot.
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February 15, 2016 10:01pm
chiz

Steven Joyce suggested that someone should contact John Oliver about the dildo throwing incident. And, now John Oliver responds. With cameo by Peter Jackson.
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February 15, 2016 10:08pm
Awww C-mon

Maggy

Gold, Glory and Girls… Brian Tamaki will win that every time

God and the Sceintist will be left having a pint still debating their points but agreeing Brian’s a dick.
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February 15, 2016 10:14pm
pentwig

The chardonny socialist kea is still giving her racial, bigoted views on a right wing blog and you people still respond to her. WHY?? Do you not realise it is a concerted effort to bring down KB. You have really missed that? And Stephie TV and Milkmaid. Do you really want to bring KB down to Strandards standards? Really? They have a score or more of left wing blogs to throw their guilt at and will be adored for it. Why allow them to ruin ours. It aint fun anymore. KB is losing patronage and we (you) are permitting it.
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February 15, 2016 11:04pm
sam green

Pentwig. You really are a twat.
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February 15, 2016 11:56pm
pentwig

Why sam?
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February 16, 2016 2:18am
Left Right and Centre

(1) Wendyl Nissen. Wendyl ? hmmm . . . Wendyl ? Nissen makes sense. 1.5 five door or 2.0 litre sedan ?

(2)

I will not hold my breath, however. Lydia is truly a class act and showed it, yet again, over the weekend.

I don’t like her – apart from golfing ability. But I don’t live for golf.
Uhum – where to start ? Lydia is a stupid old well out of fashion name picked by clueless Asian parents. Lydia Ko ? Good One. Where does the strong part American accent come from ? If she’s a New Zealander – hello ? Yeah – she sure sounds kiwi as – not. I hate to say it but I don’t generally find the Asian face much fun to look at – and certainly not hers. From what I’ve seen of her – she does not have an interesting or overly attractive personality. She seems a bit robotic. Which is often attributed to Asians. She’s not very girly or feminine. A bit gender nothing. No obvious hardcase sense of humour. Golfbot 2016. I hit ball, win trophy, where is cheque now ? I might (will, no doubt) take some shit (a boatload )for that view but hey. I mean – what the f&%k is up with the American accent people ?? A bit similar – Marina Erakovic – strange ‘are you really from around here cuz?’ blended melting pot accent.

(3) Religion. Science. Oh f%&k you’re thinking – not more religion science crap. Yes – more religion science crap. Religion starts from the conclusion. There is religion and that’s it. No debate. But how do we know if there is religious things and afterlife etc ? It’s not a question – it’s . . . *a fact* !! There *is* religion. That’s it. You don’t need an experiment. It just is, ok ? Is that ok with you pal ? It just . . . *is*. Got it, punk ? I’m talking to you now. Take your science and your questions and take a long walk off a short pier. I don’t need you and your pathetic requests for proof or evidence. What are you trying to pull, Jack ?

At least with Big Bang etc there’s a was that what went or not type thinking going on. Religion ? Fact – now say your prayers, pilgrim . . .

(4) I’m going to point all white supremacists towards a programme called ‘Hens Behaving Badly’. English white trash mostly shown – the biggest laugh is that some schmuck is signing up to breed with these munters. There’s nothing like drunk screaming women flailing their big disgusting flabby arms in sexy cheerleader costumes holding inflatable novelty knobs, is there ? Head-turning TV – as in – to look away as necessary. Or give up, as is inevitable. Ugly repulsive hens you don’t give a cluck about.
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February 16, 2016 6:20am
Left Right and Centre

Forgot – golf is on the list of dorky crap Asian parents love pushing on their kids as per their culture of success and achievement at the expense of everything else including social adjustment. It’s always golf and violins, piano . . . classical instrument playing nothing but nice Asian friendly classical muzak – look at that little fella – world class on the old flute having devoted his entire childhood and formative years to mastering his craft – a world beater by his early teens.

It’s funny how there’s no Asians being pushed into countless hours of practice learning Aerosmith at age four with a mini-axe or a drum kit and a rock n roll party attitude. Nah – now get back to your violin exercises – if you sotp there’s no dinner – and don’t you dare bring disgrace upon your tough-loving, you’ll thank me one day, demanding folks.

How did Lydia get into golf – come on. I could try to look it up (but then I’d be looking up golf – please). Did she just see golf as a little girl and go ‘golf, golf, golf – I must play golf’. *Really * ?
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February 16, 2016 6:54am
UrbanNeocolonialist

TedX talk: “Covering the topics of supernaturalism, divinity, omnipresence, telekinesis and spirituality, Jill wishes to share her experiences as a seeking student of the great “CREATOR”. Story telling a few of her “super- natural” experiences that brought her to realizing GOD, Jill would like to “pay it forward” by sharing the answers she found to some of her greater questions. Jill will also share how her business was “divinely inspired” and the process by which it developed as part of a “GOD” thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mzvAAuCo1c

and the punchline:
http://gawker.com/professional-surfer-charged-with-attempted-murder-1578289939
So in-touch with the divine that she got all raged-up, followed a pensioner to her home and ran her down (then tried to reverse over her to make sure she was properly fucked). Great advertisement for the benefits of spirituality.
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