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January 7, 2016 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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DJP6-25

Simon 8:54 am. Let’s hope it’s sooner, rather than later.

Fletch 11:07 am. The political class has enabled most of the causes of our present problems.

Shaen Herles 1:10 pm. You’re dead right.
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January 7, 2016 3:41pm
Shawn Herles

“Shawn Herles , a load of codswallop the kind we have come to expect from frontpage and you with both of your bloated rambling rhetoric .”

Stephietwit,

a load of codswallop of the kind we have come to expect from CNN/NBC and you with your bloated rambling Liberal rhetoric.

Armed Americans are a strong defense from your terrorist and rapist Muslim friends.
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January 7, 2016 3:46pm
Jack5

An email from “someone in New Zealand” called Noel Bright featured in the Bill O’Reilly show news on Fox News this afternoon (NZ time).

Bright said in a message read out: “American gun laws are crazy”.

O’Reilly replied that’s alright for someone in New Zealand with only five million people, adding New York alone has three times as many.

O’Reilly seemed to chuffed that he had viewers in “Tasmania, New Zealand, and even Antarctica”.

Anyone know of “Noel Bright” of NZ?
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January 7, 2016 3:57pm
Shawn Herles

“Shawn of all ability to read… Right wing terrorism is more likely to be the source of terrorist attacks in the USA and in much of the west .”

Bullshit Goof. We have had thousands of victims, in the West alone, of Islamic terrorism, not “right wing terrorism. That is the reality, and that means you are in denial of reality.

“That you half witted conservatives are scaring your self’s silly over a imagined threat yet ignore that the bigger one is actually the sort of people who identify with your own politics is par for the course.”

Imagined threat Goof? So, 911 did not happen? The train bombings in Britain and Spain did not happen? The 130 killed in Paris did not happen? The 14 killed recently in the US did not happen?

And in response to my question about actual evidence for your dumbfuck claim all you can come up with is a bunch of far Left wing evidence free rants? Or in short, NO EVIDENCE FOR YOUR IDIOT CLAIM.

Show me real evidence Goof, not far Left rants that have none. Show me the thousands killed by “right wing terrorism”?

But the truth is, you can’t, because you have none. It’s just another example of your irrational response to anything and everything conservatives say.

Here is a suggestion fuckwit. Go and tell the families of those 130 people murdered in Paris that they are just imagining things.

Now I understand that your a brain dead Liberal drug addict, but this is really taking reality denial to a degree that should see you locked up in a padded room with a wrap around jacket.
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January 7, 2016 3:58pm
Nostradamus

Shawn:

Now I understand that your [sic] a brain dead Liberal drug addict, but this is really taking reality denial to a degree that should see you locked up in a padded room with a wrap around jacket.

Just a friendly suggestion: maybe leave this out of your comment next time?
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January 7, 2016 4:06pm
Odakyu-sen

Right-wing terrorism? What is that?

Here’s a cut-and-pasted definition (Ref: http://idontgetpolitics.co.uk/right-left-wing)
Right wing beliefs value tradition, they are about equity, survival of the fittest, and they believe in economic freedom. They typically believe that business shouldn’t be regulated, and that we should all look after ourselves. Right wing people tend believe they shouldn’t have to pay for someone else’s education or health service. They believe in freedom to succeed over equality.

I imagine that a “right-wing terrorist” is a person who uses terrorist tactics against:
– Left-wing targets
-“Big Government” interference
– Groups that threaten their traditional beliefs (which may be Christian traditional beliefs)

How does that sound? Any comments?
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January 7, 2016 4:08pm
Shawn Herles

Griff the drug addled goof has now officially joined EAD, Reid, and stephietwit in KB’s tin foil hat club.

One of the known effects of marijuana use is reality free extreme paranoia. This explains Goof’s batshit crazy claim that the thousands of Westerners killed by Muslims are a figment of conservative imagination, while at the same time claiming that we are seriously threatened by “right wing terrorism” for which he can provide no credible evidence, let alone anything like the hundreds of actual Islamic terrorist attacks on the West, both successful and thwarted ones, that are documented fact.

Parents, don’t let your children grow up to be drug addicted Liberals.
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January 7, 2016 4:09pm
Griff

a bunch of far Left wing evidence free rants?

Bloomberg , time , rt and saloon are far left ?
fuck me you have gone so far right even redtwit would be to the left .
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January 7, 2016 4:28pm
cha

Anyone know of “Noel Bright” of NZ?

Planning something?.
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January 7, 2016 4:29pm
Kimbo

@ Odakyu-sen

Right-wing terrorism? What is that?

Here’s a cut-and-pasted definition (Ref: http://idontgetpolitics.co.uk/right-left-wing)
Right wing beliefs value tradition, they are about equity, survival of the fittest, and they believe in economic freedom. They typically believe that business shouldn’t be regulated, and that we should all look after ourselves. Right wing people tend believe they shouldn’t have to pay for someone else’s education or health service. They believe in freedom to succeed over equality.

I imagine that a “right-wing terrorist” is a person who uses terrorist tactics against:
– Left-wing targets
-“Big Government” interference
– Groups that threaten their traditional beliefs (which may be Christian traditional beliefs)

How does that sound? Any comments?

Seems to sum up Timothy McVeigh as I understand his motives for the Oklahoma City bombing (death toll: 168) – although I think some right-wingers try and disown him and consider him as a leftist.
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January 7, 2016 4:31pm
sooty

Jack5 @3.57. Must be a rellie of Penny’s.
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January 7, 2016 4:32pm
cha

Right-wing terrorism? What is that?

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http://www.news9.com/story/28826792/owner-of-daycare-inside-murrah-building-remembers-okc-bombing
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January 7, 2016 4:33pm
Griff

dont forget
Anders Behring Breivik
Unabomber Ted Kaczynski
http://cyber.eserver.org/unabom.txt

One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general.

Sound like someone on here?
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January 7, 2016 4:40pm
Kimbo

@ Odakyu-sen

…also Yigal Amir, the 1995 assassin of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yigal_Amir

and also Norwegian Anders Behring Breivik (killed 75 people in 2011)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

…would seem to fit those criteria
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January 7, 2016 4:44pm
mikenmild

Speaking of right-wing terrorism, what would happen if an armed group of Muslim radicals took over a federal property in the US? Swift and violent response, maybe? Seems a bit different if they are right-wing radicals:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/75676087/oregonunderattack-why-this-terrorist-story-may-have-escaped-your-attention
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January 7, 2016 4:46pm
thedavincimode

Dear Sky faults

I keep pushing the yellow button but it still won’t delete rigger. What can I do?

#Stop the drivel #Stating the bleedin’ obvious relentlessly without shame just to hear the sound of his own voice #Would I get life or a medal #Dial a Mongrel Mob Hit
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January 7, 2016 4:48pm
publicwatchdog

So – who is telling the truth Kiwibloggers, regarding the alleged signing of the TPPA in Auckland on 4 February 2016?

Govt denies Chilean claim about TPPA signing (Radio NZ)
Updated at 2:09 pm today

The Government is denying a date has been set for the signing of the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPPA) next month.
……

Duty minister Simon Bridges said despite an official statement by the Chilean government that the controversial trade deal will be signed on 4 February in New Zealand, arrangements are not yet confirmed.

The statement, issued by Chile’s General Directorate of International Economic Relations head Andrés Rebolledo Smitmans, said the agreement would be signed by ministers from the 12 countries that negotiated the deal.

The announcement sparked criticsim from opponents of the deal, who said the fact the public only learned about the signing from overseas reports showed the government was still trying to limit the chance for New Zealanders to make their opposition heard.

A prominent critic of the controversial trade deal, Auckland University law professor Jane Kelsey said the lack of any formal announcement by the New Zealand government before now was consistent with its “obsessive secrecy” throughout
Professor Kelsey, who led a successful legal challenge against the government’s failure to release information about the negotiations, said the signing was premature.

“It seems quite reckless to sign a deal on the fourth of February when everyone knows that US politics will determine the final content. So there’s a lot of water to go under the bridge here.”

However, New Zealand International Business Forum head Stephen Jacobi said it would be very difficult for the United States – or any other country – to renegotiate the deal at this stage.

“This is a very delicately balanced set of agreements and understandings, and changing some of them will simply change the balance. I would be very surprised if this would come forward for negotiation, but you can’t completely exclude it.”

However, Simon Bridges said a number of countries were still working through the domestic approval processes required before signature.

He said arrangements for the TPPA’s signing had not yet been confirmed and further details would be announced when and if they were confirmed

Opponents of the deal have organised a series of public meetings this month, starting with the Auckland Town Hall on January 26, followed by Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin.

The keynote speaker will be the director of the Washington-based Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch, Lori Wallach.

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Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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January 7, 2016 4:53pm
publicwatchdog

Actually Kiwibloggers, to my knowledge, Noel Bright is no relation, although we share the same surname?

Kind regards

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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January 7, 2016 4:57pm
Keeping Stock

Seriously – some of you (boys club?) Kiwibloggers are getting seriously DESPERATE!

I wonder how many of you would make the comments you do, if you had to put your real names to your posts?

Or – would that be the end of Kiwiblog as we currently know it?

Just asking – in an observational sort of way ….

Kind regards

Penny Bright

Penny, you DO realise that Kiwiblog ISN’T yours, don’t you? You seem to be taking advantage of DPF’s absence to come in here and make new rules etc. It’s a bit like turning up at a mate’s place, finding he’s not home, so letting yourself in, drinking all his booze and eating all his food.

All of us who comment here do so at DPF’s discretion. It’s not up to you to tell people they should use their names when commenting, or to tell people to go somewhere else. If you squatting in your home in Auckland whilst bludging off ratepayers who DO pay for the services YOU use isn’t bad enough, it now seems you are squatting at DPF’s place on the blogosphere. That’s hardly the kind of civic example a candidate for one of New Zealand’s most significant local body jobs should be showing, is it?
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January 7, 2016 5:16pm
Kimbo

@ Keeping Stock

It’s a bit like turning up at a mate’s place, finding he’s not home, so letting yourself in, drinking all his booze and eating all his food.

Yep, that seems to sum up Penny’s political philosophy. She’s certainly done it to us rate-payers of Auckland City, while still utilising all the services for which we pay. 😉
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January 7, 2016 5:24pm
Nostradamus

Keeping Stock:

It’s a bit like turning up at a mate’s place, finding he’s not home, so letting yourself in, drinking all his booze and eating all his food.

I’d express the analogy slighlty differently: it’s a bit like turning up at a mate’s place, finding he’s not home, so letting yourself in, drinking all his booze, eating all his food, leaving the dishes unwashed, not taking out the rubbish, and generally stinking up the house with unpleasant odours.
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January 7, 2016 5:28pm
stigie

Been away on holiday, have been able to read Kiwiblog but not comment. Scrolling over the shit that comes from that demented women wanting to ask questions of everyone and not delivering any answers herself, its all about Penny Bright, so thought it fitting to reiterate the message that sums up Ms Bright…?

narcissistic-personality-disorder-symptoms

“Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody’s life or to anyone they meet”.
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January 7, 2016 5:30pm
Kimbo

@ Nostradamus

I’d express the analogy slighlty differently: it’s a bit like turning up at a mate’s place, finding he’s not home, so letting yourself in, drinking all his booze, eating all his food, leaving the dishes unwashed, not taking out the rubbish, and generally stinking up the house with unpleasant odours.

…and claiming that you are doing your mate and the surrounding neighbourhood a great favour.
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January 7, 2016 5:32pm
Nostradamus

Kimbo:

…and claiming that you are doing your mate and the surrounding neighbourhood a great favour.

… and claiming that everyone else is jealous because they missed out on the booze and food!
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January 7, 2016 5:34pm
cha

Want!.

It’s happened. Someone built a quadcopter big enough to carry human cargo. The future is officially here, and it’s kinda scary. Scary in the cool way, though. The same company that brought us the regular-sized Ghost drone has just announced the “184” Personal Flying Vehicle (PFV). It’s about the size of a (very) small car, and claims to be able to deliver one human (up to 260 pounds) anywhere within a 10 mile/23-minute flight time reach. A working prototype of the autonomous craft is being shown at CES, and we’re pretty excited. If a little skeptical.

http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/06/184-delivery-drone-for-people/
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January 7, 2016 5:35pm
Akaroa

Reading today’s General Debate – and the several downticks that Penny Bright’s input always seem to attract – makes me wonder WHY there is so much evident antipathy towards the input and posting of that one contributor.

I thought the net – and particularly this thread which i read regularly – was an open forum in which people could express views without attracting the sort of mindless schoolyard villification that some – presumably intelligent and sensible – posters seem to dellght in levelling at P Bright..

I don’t know Ms Bright personally, and I don’t always agree with everything she posts, but that’s a bit different to loading her posts with a pile of down-ticks for no other reason that i can discern than she’s who she is.

Whatever happened to ‘a fair go’ or ‘a fair suck of the sav’? When i grew up I was taught to respect other people’s point of view, however much I disagreed with it, and to treat them with respect and courtesy, whoever they are/were.

Looks to me like a whole bunch of posters around here have forgotten what its like to be courteous to others – whether agreeing with them of not!.

Rant over!!
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January 7, 2016 5:36pm
Jack5

The nitwit who leads UK Labour, Corbyn, has appointed a Shadow Minister of Defence who has received thousands in donations from the law firm that is drumming up actions against British Iraq War veterans.

The appointee, Emily Thornberry, is also opposed to Britain’s Trident submarine nuclear defence.

Thornberry is married to high court judge Sir Christopher Nugee, pointed out her brother-in-law is Major General Richard Nugee, the British defence services secretary.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3387918/Shameless-Corbyn-s-new-defence-chief-got-48k-lawyers-hounding-troops-claims-no-idea-to.html#ixzz3wWvs2fBk
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January 7, 2016 5:38pm
Nostradamus

Akaroa:

Reading today’s General Debate – and the several downticks that Penny Bright’s input always seem to attract – makes me wonder WHY there is so much evident antipathy towards the input and posting of that one contributor.

My advice: read today’s General Debate thread again – and any previous General Debate thread that Penny has commented on – this time without your blinkers on. Note, in particular, the number of questions that Penny asks [many], the number of questions that other people ask Penny [many], and the number of questions that Penny answers [not many].
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January 7, 2016 5:39pm
stigie

“Whatever happened to ‘a fair go’ or ‘a fair suck of the sav’”?

Akaroa, i would say she has had a fair suck of the sav over the last 8 years using services that other people pay for.

One of the biggest bludgers in Auckland !~
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January 7, 2016 5:43pm
renderer

Penny I have been struck in the past with the outright arrogance you shown on you tube clips I have watched. For what ever reason you seem to be dispalying the same arrogance on GD while trolling your arrant nonsense. Given the majority of the negative feed back you get here and also on the stanard one would think you would take stock and give some thought to the manner you respond to most people who have a contrary veiw to yours.
You demand answers in a beligerant manner from other posters and yet you youurself are very selective with the answers you give here.
One of the best forms of communication is listening. You do very little of that.
Respect is something you have to earn an I am afraid Penny you are doing very little gain even a hint of repect. Even though you may not believe it, it is possible to have respect for people with a contrary veiw to yours.
Do yourself a favour and try listening.
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January 7, 2016 5:43pm
Kabull

I find Ms Bright’s incessant and incoherent ramblings are ruining my enjoyment of GD. This should be a place where intelligent people can hold robust conversations without the personal vitriol that Ms bright brings to the debate.

In my view many of her comments are personally directed in a way that contravenes the policies of the site. It surprises me that she appears not to have been reported more for unacceptable comments. Many of the recipients of her ‘opinions’ could, I’m sure, regard those opinions as personal abuse.

Is it time to make more use of the ‘Report abusive comment’ link – or make formal complaints in the manner described in the Comments Policy? The quality of the forum would be much improved if PublicWatchDog was silenced. And, incidentally, I am not an Aucklander and have no interest in her campaign for the Mayoralty or her battles over non-payment of rates. Surely, this is not just an ‘Auckland’ forum?

Penny – please just go away.
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January 7, 2016 5:43pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Fun and games in the UK Labour Party, alright

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12084107/labour-shadow-cabinet-reshuffle-jeremy-corbyn-david-cameron-pmqs-live.html

Can’t see much news about UK Labour meltdown in our MSM, though.
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January 7, 2016 5:45pm
Stars And Stripes

A 24-year-old has been charged with the murder of a woman in Remuera today.

Police have just confirmed that the 24-year-old handed himself in at Auckland central station at midday.

He also surrendered a weapon which police believe he used to kill the woman.

Detective Inspector Kevin Hooper said the man was not known to the woman – who will not be named until after a post Mortem Examination tonight where she will be formally identified.

So you can’t even go for a run now without some piece of filthy trash deciding that they will kill you for the hell of it.
I’m sure this individual will fit the usual social demographics we have become numb too but never the less I’m sure all the apologists will be able to explain it away and also since she obviously lived in or near one of the better parts of town being Remuera then she was probably rich and white so I doubt you will see the media making a hero out of her.
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January 7, 2016 5:46pm
publicwatchdog

errrr….. how on earth are my musings about anonymous posts on Kiwiblog trying to ‘make new rules’?

I’m not the one who is trying to limit freedom of expression here on Kiwiblog.

Unlike Captain Mainwaring (and others) – who constantly display – in my view, an ongoing ineptitude for reasoned and considered debate?

More desperate attempts by the (mainly – not MANLY) Kiwiclobbering machine?

Some of you ‘poor diddums’ lot, in my view, are such mean-spirited, poor losers?

But you keep coming back for more?

DUH?

Keep going ….

‘Sometimes your worst (political) enemies – can be your best friends’ ?

Kind regards

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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January 7, 2016 5:49pm
Kimbo

@ Akaroa

Reading today’s General Debate – and the several downticks that Penny Bright’s input always seem to attract – makes me wonder WHY there is so much evident antipathy towards the input and posting of that one contributor…Looks to me like a whole bunch of posters around here have forgotten what its like to be courteous to others – whether agreeing with them of not!.

Rant over!!

Try this, Akaroa:

publicwatchdog (5,020 comments) says:
January 7th, 2016 at 4:57 pm

Despite over 5,000 posts, Penny has never really altered her essential message – current national and Auckland local body politics is corrupt – that could have been made in just one. Instead, despite enjoying the privilege of accusing, maligning, and criticising whomever she chooses, outside of this forum and within it, often in a rude, precious and hypocritical manner under the mantle of a “publicwtachdog’,

…yet she consistently refuses to engage meaningfully with others when, in response they justly seek to interrogate and call her to account in a similar manner, especially in the light of her own oft-repeated advice that she is

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?/”Who watches the watchmen?” It’s really not that hard to figure out, once you put aside disingenuous hand-wringing and running interference disguised as rhetorical questions, is it, Akaroa?
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January 7, 2016 5:51pm
blazeoflight

@Kimbo

Thank you for your kind advice.

They say explain’ is losing, but, in the interests of clarity…

All I did to upset (Jack?) was mention Israel in relation to nuclear weapons testing when, to be strictly accurate, I should have included them on the basis of possession of the same.

I have no idea if Israel has tested their nukes, but it really is not central to my argument.

And I mentioned, admittedly in a provocative manner (that’s part of the fun here: I’m safe from blackened eyes) that I consider Israel a rogue state, unsuited to stewardship of nuclear weapons. The poor fellow then launched into the usual anti-semitic, anti-Jew blah blah blah crap and nonsense that I have no patience for.

I could have gone further: the least trustworthy country that has nukes must, by definition, be the only country that has used them. And the runner up must be the state that constantly threatens its neighbours and has running debates in its media on the cost-benefits of nuking Iran.

North Korea wants nukes ostensibly for self defense, a wish I entirely understand, I see that as a rational act on its part given the effectiveness since WWII of MAD (Libya is an example North Korea probably closely examined when deciding to double down on its nuclear ambitions) and the proven aggressive tendencies of its arch enemy.

Any diversion from that geopolitical submission is simply red herring stuff.

And then we get all the racist nutters (looking at Odakyu-sen here, too) lauding Jews as somehow superior to the rest of the human race. I often wonder if the nutters forget that the Jews that they have in mind are of the Ashkenazi variety – basically an Eastern European sub-tribe – and that term also encapsulates Jews from many other ethnicities ie colour. And we all know Israel is a deeply racist country.

Let’s be clear: such protestations of superiority is racism, pure and simple, which is not to say that Israel cannot be proud, as a nation – albeit a blighted nation – of its Nobel record.

But if I was Israeli, I would want my leaders to stop killing and start making amends to their fellow countrymen (ie Palestinians) and their neighbours and prepare for peace without nukes.
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January 7, 2016 5:52pm
Nookin

I have previously commented that her warship appears to be motivated by a sense of entitlement and self-importance beyond any reasonable expectations. This is more than adequately evidenced by a couple of extracts from decisions in cases to which she has been a party.

I refer to:

[37] I do not accept Ms Bright’s further argument that being described as a “public watchdog” (as she has been in some District Court judgments) accords her any special status that gives her any speaking or attendance rights at Council meetings except as provided under the Local Government Official and Meetings Act and the Council’s Standing Orders.

And

[11] Turning to the merits of the appeal, Ms Bright did not make submissions on
the legal correctness of the Judge’s approach, and his reliance on s 60 of the Local
Government (Rating) Act 2002. Rather, she referred to the fact that she was a
“judicially recognised watchdog”, and that she had successfully been before the
Courts on many occasions pursuing the issue of openness and transparency in local
government.

The first passage is from an appeal against her conviction for trespass (and I immediately acknowledge that she had been successful on previous occasions) and advanced the argument that she had some special status which precluded her ejection from the meeting room. Incidentally, in this particular case, the court recorded that she set out 92 points in which, she argued, the judge was in error. The outcome of the case was: judge 92; Penelope Bright; 0

The second passage is from a decision relating to security for costs. The court in that case did go on to comment that a petition with which she was associated did appear to have some effect before the Committee receiving the petition (I add that in order to ensure that I maintain a balance).

The significance, however, of each passage is that in each case, she regards her assumption of the role of public watchdog as qualifying her for some special benefit, treatment or status. She appears to take very much the same position on this blog site.

Some humility and a collaborative approach rather than the condescending and imperious denigration of those who might support her causes (but not the self-destructive way of going about them) might actually do wonders. Bugger, the formatting has gone to hell and beyond. Cant fix it. Should be clear enough from the text.
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January 7, 2016 5:57pm
Griff

Why settle for that cha I want one of these .
This is not the hot one its only got insane mode .
The hot one has ‘Ludicrous Mode and is .3 seconds quicker to 100 kph and good for 10.9 over 1/4 mile.
https://youtu.be/6eGhjhx8O9M
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January 7, 2016 6:08pm
Kimbo

@ blazeoflight

North Korea wants nukes ostensibly for self defense, a wish I entirely understand, I see that as a rational act on its part given the effectiveness since WWII of MAD (Libya is an example North Korea probably closely examined when deciding to double down on its nuclear ambitions) and the proven aggressive tendencies of its arch enemy.

I note you have not answered my direct question,

…would you like to clarify if you make any distinction between “Jews” and Zionist ideology?

And back to my point about chasing every passing car: It is very unusual, even among left-wingers to find anyone prepared to offer an apology for the North Korean regime, so your arguments are…unexpected. However, let me try this: I agree with you – within the parameters of their political ideologies, perspectives and assumptions, you can argue the actions of North Korea – as also with suicide bombers, for example – are not insane. Indeed, they make perfect sense. Therefore the word insane, at least in a political context, is a lazy word (for example, your description of Israel as “the maddest of mad states”), that really means, ‘a political system that is diametrically opposed to what I think is right and good’.

But let me ask you this about North Korea: From a reasonable point of view, are it’s political system and actions worth defending on the basis of any redeeming features…and if not, why are you?
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January 7, 2016 6:09pm
RightNow

Stars And Stripes (310 comments) says:
January 7th, 2016 at 5:46 pm

A 24-year-old has been charged with the murder of a woman in Remuera today.

Apparently he’s likely to be a white right wing Christian fundamentalist.
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January 7, 2016 6:18pm
cha

Is that the Calgary skyline?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu_hkbBueOg
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January 7, 2016 6:18pm
cha

Apparently he’s likely to be a white right wing extremist.

The victim was a police woman?.

http://www.deathandtaxes.com/antigovviolence.pdf
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January 7, 2016 6:21pm
publicwatchdog

Oh – poor old purported lawyer Nookin.

Still seems to be ‘wounded’ from the FACT that the World Justice Project didn’t ask HIM to contribute to their 2015 Rule of Law Index?

Sheesh Kiwibloggers!

If some of you have experienced an acute political allergic reaction to your discovering that I was invited to contribute to the 2
World Justice Project 2015 Rule of Law Index, although I am neither a lawyer or an academic, prepare yourselves for this one!

Are you holding on to your hat and pants Kiwibloggers?

Ok – it seems that politics IS in my blood.

I only found this out a few years ago – after doing a bit of research on my ‘family tree’ ?

Remembering that you can’t ‘pick your relatives’ – here you go Kiwibloggers!

My great-great-great grandfather (on my father’s side) was which of the following:

a) A Chief Tory Whip in the UK House of Commons.

b) Uncle of James Clerk-Maxwell – recognised as one of the three greatest scientists that the world has ever produced.

c) Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury, and Master of the Royal Mint.

d) All of the above.

Next question – what was the name of this man – my great-great-great grandfather?

(And do you think he’d be impressed with how some of you lot are treating his great-great-great granddaughter here on Kiwiblog?)

Kind regards

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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January 7, 2016 6:24pm
nasska

An acknowledgement letter about a dubious & biased left wing questionnaire would have the same import as a spam email promoting Russian brides, Nigerian banking scams or penis enlargement….

……to the sane that is. 🙂
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January 7, 2016 6:33pm
Shawn Herles

North Carolina Muslim suspected of aiding Islamic State, Hamas and al-Qaeda busted for child porn

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/north-carolina-muslim-suspected-of-aiding-islamic-state-hamas-and-al-qaeda-busted-for-child-porn
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January 7, 2016 6:41pm
Nostradamus

Penny:

~~My great-great-great grandfather (on my father’s side) was which of the following:~~
~~a) A Chief Tory Whip in the UK House of Commons.~~
~~b) Uncle of James Clerk-Maxwell – recognised as one of the three greatest scientists that the world has ever produced.~~
~~c) Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury, and Master of the Royal Mint.~~
~~d) All of the above.~~

I doubt anyone – except perhaps Akaroa – cares about your family history.

How did you answer this question in your qualified respondent questionnaire:

Hypothetical Scenario No. 7

14. Please assume that someone in this neighborhood has a dispute with another resident over an unpaid debt. How likely is it that one or both parties resort to violence in the process of settling the dispute (for example, to intimidate one of the parties, or to ask for a payment of the unpaid debt)?

The choices were: Very likely; Likely; Unlikely; Very unlikely; Don’t know/Not Applicable.

Once you tell us how you answered that question – not holding my breath – then we can discuss whether specialist expertise in the area of rule of law was required to answer the question.
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January 7, 2016 6:44pm
Shawn Herles

Jihad Massacre in Paris: A Fruit of Multiculturalism

“Just over 10 months after the horrendous Charlie Hebdo massacre, Paris was rocked by a massive Jihadi attack slaughtering innocent people in a most horrific manner – 129 people were killed and over 300 wounded. One survivor stated: “they were shooting us like birds.”

Many from the political and media elites were as usual swift in condemning the horror carnage, but desperately shifted the conversation from Islam as its real cause. If at all, some of them turned to the same old misplaced blaming: self-radicalization, poverty, isolation from society and the so-called right wing.

Germany is already under attack from these migrants flooding the country. German women are being molested and raped by them. For women, it is no longer safe to jog or walk the streets alone in many places without the fear of being sexually abused or raped in many German cities. Violence and crime have dramatically risen most of which is being concealed by the German police. It is only a matter of time before the peace-practicing Muslims, in seeking to obey the dictates of their Holy Book, succeed in murdering the Germans in jihadi carnage like in Paris.

The underlying cause of the Jihad carnage in Paris and others is not Self-Radicalization or anything like this as our elites would keeps repeating. If anything, it is radicalization of Muslims by the teachings of the Quran, Sunna and Islamic Sharia Law – all of which demand the destruction of the non-Muslim way of life and its replacement with the Islamic order. Muslims carrying out terrorist attacks are simply trying to be good Muslim by following what Quran and Muhammad’s tradition teaches them to do. You will see that they are just exercising their right to freely practice Islam and its core demands.”

http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/138-jake-neuman/1700-jihad-massacre-in-paris-a-fruit-of-multiculturalism.html

Merkel Under Fire: Hundreds rally against sexual violence after NYE attacks in Cologne

“Hundreds rally against sexual violence after NYE attacks in Cologne. I expect this is the beginning of a much larger movement. Remember, it wasn’t just in Cologne. Other cities are being mentioned (e.g. Hamburg, Stuttgart), but Cologne remains the center of attention, because as it stands now, most crimes happened there. And these attacks were coordinated.

If these mass attacks aren’t enough to compel Merkel to abandon her disastrous Muslim immigration plan, then Germany is doomed.”

http://pamelageller.com/2016/01/merkel-under-fire-hundreds-rally-against-sexual-violence-after-nye-attacks-in-cologne.html/
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January 7, 2016 6:45pm
Maggy Wassilieff

China stock market just been closed again.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35248798
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January 7, 2016 6:46pm
Johnboy

“or penis enlargement….”

Surely those ads are genuine nasska? 🙂
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January 7, 2016 6:46pm
fernglas

Fuck me, Penny, you really are desperate for some credibility if you have to go back 5 generations to show us how important you think you are. What is so important to you about participating in some survey? Is it because you wish you were a lawyer and never will be? You certainly seem very jealous of Nookin, Nostradamus and others.
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January 7, 2016 6:46pm
nasska

….”North Carolina Muslim suspected of aiding Islamic State, Hamas and al-Qaeda busted for child porn”…..

So long as there’s a practising Muslim left on this planet no little girl is safe.

What the Hell is it with these nutters…..can’t they get a hard on with a real woman?
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January 7, 2016 6:47pm
Shawn Herles

More than a dozen US troops trapped by Obama’s peace partners, The Taliban — one soldier dead, two wounded

http://pamelageller.com/2016/01/more-than-a-dozen-us-troops-trapped-by-obamas-peace-partners-the-taliban.html/

Where Islamic terrorists are concerned, Obama’s policy is to drop his trousers and take it up the ass.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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January 7, 2016 6:48pm
Johnboy

Jeeze Shawn the feller lives in the bible belt bro? 🙂
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January 7, 2016 6:48pm
Shawn Herles

250,000 Muslims violently riot in India after rumors that Muhammad was insulted

http://pamelageller.com/2016/01/250000-muslims-violently-riot-in-india-after-rumors-that-muhammad-was-insulted.html/
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January 7, 2016 6:49pm
nasska

Ask Penny when she fronts up with the barbed wire JB. 🙂
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January 7, 2016 6:49pm
Johnboy

“What the Hell is it with these nutters…..can’t they get a hard on with a real woman?”

Goats and Camels only wash once a year when they reach the oasis nasska! 🙂
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January 7, 2016 6:50pm
Shawn Herles

VIDEO Shows WILD MUSLIM CHAOS on New Years in Germany, Sex Attacks, Fireworks THROWN at Crowd

“A couple of days ago I broke the story of the Muslim mobs who were sexually harassing scores of young women on New Years Eve in Cologne, Germany. Bigger media outlets have finally picked it up. And we are now hearing it was over a thousand Muslim attackers. But there’s more. This video shows the wild scene at Cologne Cathedral on New Years.

The NY Times today: “Coordinated”

German officials have announced that about 1,000 young men…were involved in a coordinated attack against at least 90 women in Cologne on New Year’s Eve. The women were harassed, molested, raped and
robbed by the men in an assault authorities described as “unprecedented” in both scale and nature. Police chief Wolfgang Albers said it was “a completely new dimension of crime,” adding that a volunteer policewoman was one of the victims. The assault went unreported for days in most cases ….

Unreported because it was Muslim. The NY Times doesn’t mention the identity of the savages.”

http://pamelageller.com/2016/01/video-shows-wild-chaos-on-new-years-in-germany-sexual-attacks-fireworks-thrown-at-crowd.html/

Nothing to see here folks. These peaceful Muslims were just trying to culturally enrich German women.
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January 7, 2016 6:51pm
Johnboy

Why would a chap want a rajah when Penny finally gets the barbed wire sharp and ready to go nasska?
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January 7, 2016 6:51pm
stigie

“can’t they get a hard on with a real woman”?

i guess anything above 14 is a boiler perhaps Nasska ?
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January 7, 2016 6:52pm
Johnboy

You’ve obviously never seen the carnage at the Wailing Wall during Rosh Hashanah Shawn?

Reid will pop along soon to inform you old chap! 🙂
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January 7, 2016 6:54pm
Shawn Herles

Pat Condell on dumbass Liberal Apologists for Islamic Fascism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3-Xl0J9UjI
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January 7, 2016 6:54pm
Odakyu-sen

Stars and Stripes,

“So you can’t even go for a run now without some piece of filthy trash deciding that they will kill you for the hell of it.”

This is an odd case. What could the motive be? Joggers don’t carry much cash. It’s a fairly wealthy part of Auckland, and you don’t see a lot of low-lives walking around the streets there (that you would see in my neighbourhood of Orakei).
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January 7, 2016 6:55pm
cha

More than a dozen US troops trapped by Obama’s peace partners

Take it away Rudyard –

When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An’ go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier of the Queen
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January 7, 2016 6:55pm
Andrei

Hi Shawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8NwYlTlHxs
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January 7, 2016 6:55pm
sam green

Oh dear – more drivel. The comment can be applied to several comments.
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January 7, 2016 6:57pm
Johnboy

I’d get out of Tokyo before Kim Jong Un’s next great dragon lands Anjin-San…..We’d miss you old chap! 🙂
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January 7, 2016 6:58pm
mikenmild

Whoa Shawn, you could overdose on that Pamela Geller bullshit..
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January 7, 2016 6:59pm
Johnboy

Putin’s got a wonderful chest and biceps for a fuckin runt Andrei! 🙂
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January 7, 2016 6:59pm
Andrei

Betchya he’d beat you at arm wrestling Johnboy
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January 7, 2016 7:01pm
Johnboy

Is it really true that his Speznats combat boots have 6″ heels? 🙂
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January 7, 2016 7:02pm
Odakyu-sen

JohnBoy,

Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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January 7, 2016 7:03pm
Johnboy

Bet he’d never beat Obama for cock length though Andrei! 🙂
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January 7, 2016 7:03pm
sam green

Particularly at 6:24
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January 7, 2016 7:04pm
nasska

….”Particularly at 6:24″….

You’ll get used to it Sam. It’s the closest thing to perpetual motion we have here. 🙂
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January 7, 2016 7:06pm
Johnboy

I can still remember that photo of the chaps whose ashes got hammered into the concrete by the blast wave Anjin-San.

You’re far to good to be cremated that way old chap! 🙂
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January 7, 2016 7:24pm
nasska

….”You’re far to good to be cremated that way old chap”….

We could pass the hat around & donate a plaque to nail to the concrete JB.

Something like “Here fries the mortal remains of Kiwiblog’s favourite son”. 🙂
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January 7, 2016 7:32pm
Stars And Stripes

Odakyu -attacker did not know victim so can only speculate but maybe sex motive or maybe he wanted her shoes who knows.
Could also possibly be another one of those mental patients in “community care” who deviated from the treatment model and ended up slaughtering someone.
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January 7, 2016 7:36pm
Johnboy

Show proper respect to Anjin-San nasska or he will pop back from Tokyo and slice you diagonally like a stack of bamboo old chap! 🙂
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January 7, 2016 7:39pm
Johnboy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4B6hzgNMwM
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January 7, 2016 7:42pm
Johnboy

It’s the white toe-socks without the Chandels that do it for me somehow! 🙂
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January 7, 2016 7:45pm
publicwatchdog

Oh dear – seems the purported Sam Green has just joined the Kiwibloggers ‘diddums’ club – where they line dance their own peculiar ‘dance of the desperate’, on the head of a giant pin?

😉

Why on earth would I possibly be jealous of purported lawyers Nostradamus and Nookin – when I’ve had the honour of being invited to contribute to the World Justice Project 2015 Rule of Law Index, and they haven’t ?

(And they really can’t get over it? Poor, pathetic wee things 🙁

Sheesh!

Maybe now that I’m in contact with potentially 2,500 international ‘Rule of Law’ experts, I should cut and paste some of the diatribe and vitriol that is regularly posted on Kiwiblog – so they can see the crap that is dished out to anti-corruption ‘whistle-blowers’ like myself – who are trying to ensure government, particularly local government is held accountable to the RULE OF LAW?

What do you think World Justice Project ‘Rule of Law’ experts would make of YOUR ‘contributions’ – purported lawyers Nostradamus and Nookin?

Think they’d get YOU an invite to contribute to the next WJP Rule of Law Index?

Keep going …

Kind regards

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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January 7, 2016 7:47pm
nasska

The mind boggles!
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January 7, 2016 7:49pm
Johnboy

“Keep going …

Kind regards

Penny Bright”

Thanks Penny….keep going indeed…definitely a 300 night….350 is on if YOU keep commenting….hint keep them much shorter and much more often darling!!! 🙂
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January 7, 2016 7:52pm
stigie

Narcissistic Personality Disorder involves arrogant behavior, a lack of empathy for other people, and a need for admiration-all of which must be consistently evident at work and in relationships. People who are narcissistic are frequently described as cocky, self-centered, manipulative, and demanding. Narcissists may concentrate on unlikely personal outcomes (e.g., fame) and may be convinced that they deserve special treatment.
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January 7, 2016 7:52pm
big bruv

“Think they’d get YOU an invite to contribute to the next WJP Rule of Law Index?”

Might be a bit hard for you to attend when you are banged up Penny.
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January 7, 2016 7:53pm
cha

Sharp JB, very sharp. (nsf sensitive souls)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJjLIofUSxE

http://cdn.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/49.jpg
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January 7, 2016 7:54pm
Stars And Stripes

Penny- I would be most unhappy if I was invited to join the WJP as this would be an indication that they believed I had socialist/communist sympathies and one could never be proud of that.
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January 7, 2016 7:54pm
Johnboy

None of my sheep have ever said I was too cocky stigie? 🙂
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January 7, 2016 7:55pm
publicwatchdog

Good on you JohnBoy!

Nearly 300 posts on General Debate again today 🙂

Well done all of us 😉

Kind regards

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate
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January 7, 2016 7:57pm
Johnboy

Oh yuckey cha….. Imagine how messy it will get when he has a cold? 🙂
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January 7, 2016 7:58pm
Don the Kiwi

So which one of those beasty brandishing samurais was you, JB? 🙂
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January 7, 2016 8:03pm
sam green

@ stigie 7:52

I can identify at least two on here. You can really tell by their decent into narcissistic rage from time to time – they can’t help it.
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January 7, 2016 8:05pm
Johnboy

You ask such stupid questions Don…Surely it’s obvious…I’m the one that isn’t a bloody Catholic! 🙂
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January 7, 2016 8:05pm
PhilP

Police have just confirmed that the 24-year-old handed himself in at Auckland central station at midday.

Bet he wasn’t brown then?
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January 7, 2016 8:05pm
Don the Kiwi

How the hell would I know which one isn’t Catholic JB?

There’s a lot of crusader Catholic samurai in the land of Nippon, JB – you should know that. 🙂
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January 7, 2016 8:07pm
Odakyu-sen

Johnboy,

I don’t own a katana. My brother in law had a couple, and one of them had a live blade, so he needed a permit from the local police.
You know what a “live blade” is, I assume.

What I would like to have (for purely aesthetic reasons) over my fireplace is an MG34, but that is never going to happen.
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January 7, 2016 8:10pm
Johnboy

If you don’t know which one is or isn’t a Catholic Don how the fuck would the rest of us Pagans know? 🙂
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January 7, 2016 8:10pm
Johnboy

Two to go chaps for the 300! 🙂
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January 7, 2016 8:11pm
Odakyu-sen

St. Mary’s Cathedral in Tokyo is quite something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqHOZjKLZt8
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January 7, 2016 8:13pm
publicwatchdog

SO many Kiwibloggers reading and commenting!

Some even making sense and not being personally nasty 🙂

(I did say SOME.)

Isn’t freedom of expression a WONDERFUL thing 🙂

YAY!

Well Kiwibloggers – this will probably bring a tear to the eyes of some of you – but I think it’s now time to have a break.

Kind regards

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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