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January 4, 2016 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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blazeoflight

@Stars etc

1. NZ Herald once carried an interview with a retiring prison officer from Pareremoremo. He said, from memory, “Give me one bad bastard and let me lock him up with 9 good guys, and I’ll give you ten good guys. Give me one good guy and let me lock him up with 9 bad bastards, and I’ll give you 10 bad bastards”.

Notice the complete absence of reference to ethnicity in that statement. Does that tell you anything?

2. No. Are you undercover CIA?
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January 4, 2016 9:55pm
Stars And Stripes

Sam you read my mind. Well done.
You could make money at a Gypsy Fair with a skill like that.
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January 4, 2016 9:56pm
nasska

I doubt that many of the Mount’s New Year revelers would have been packing heat but otherwise you wouldn’t be a long way off.

And I’d wager a few bob that there would have been a corresponding increase in violence.
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January 4, 2016 9:58pm
Stars And Stripes

Blaze-I will have to consult my superiors before I can answer that question.
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January 4, 2016 9:58pm
Odakyu-sen

“Blaze-I will have to consult my superiors before I can answer that question.”

Oh goody! A spook!

(We haven’t had one of those for ages. Just lots of trolls…)
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January 4, 2016 10:03pm
blazeoflight

@Sam

And post WWII African Americans were excluded from the massive housing assistance programs doled out to Whites, thus missing out on one of the great housing booms in history.

Deliberate, racist US government policy.

And when that became untenable, Nixon started the War on Drugs to get them in jail and stop them from voting. The battle to vote is extant in many states for African Americans.
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January 4, 2016 10:03pm
Awww C-mon

BlazeofReid?

#conspricy #madasahatter
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January 4, 2016 10:05pm
sam green

@ awww cmon

I think something that is marketed as a family friendly event should definitely have been better organised. While I don’t think it’s ok for those young men to act the way they did, copious amounts of alcohol on young male and female brains and raging hormones equals carnage.
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January 4, 2016 10:06pm
blazeoflight

@Odakyu

Yep, many Israeli Hasbara visitors though!
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January 4, 2016 10:06pm
nasska

….”It’s too easy to just make it a race issue, when it’s deeper than that”….

I don’t disagree Awww C-mon. There are other factors but race is definitely one…..so much so that a blind man could see it.

Regardless of our various positions on the political scale everyone makes judgements along the lines we have been discussing. It’s just that those from the Left hide it better.
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January 4, 2016 10:08pm
blazeoflight

@AwwwC

Unlike Reid, I have a sense of humour. Somewhat dry, dour even, but it exists, nonetheless. ?
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January 4, 2016 10:08pm
calendar girl

PB at 08:48pm –

“Or, are a number of the Kiwiblogger ‘boys club’ just a bit p*ssed on a Sunday afternoon/evening, and you simply don’t realise how silly (not to mention desperate?) some of you are now sounding?”

It’s Monday, Penny, nearly Tuesday. You may have missed a day, but your readers here remain well aware of your presence!
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January 4, 2016 10:12pm
Rowan

Stephiethebot
For now the issue is still unresolved but I’m sure that once the Australian judge vindicates the previous findings of Justice Binnie then I’m sure you and the rest of the dirty old mans supporters will still try to claim that it’s all a conspiracy to find David innocent and that you know better.
Anyhow not going to turn this into a thread about that, it will happen soon enough!
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January 4, 2016 10:13pm
Awww C-mon

Agreed Nasska

Sam, 30 yr old men (ish) hitting on, molesting and perhaps even rape on young 12-16 yr old girls who were pissed and poorly dressed was a significant issue.

Similar aged guys playing the tough guy and beating up young guns another big issue.

Just a fucking disgrace of a night
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January 4, 2016 10:15pm
Rowan

Pennydimwitch

I believe that the number of downticks your posts get her will accurately represent the proportion of votes you will receive come election time. I see several that have attracted enough downticks that they are now hidden from view, if only they all were! Perhaps DPF could set up a macro that automatically hides from view any comment posted here by you!!
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January 4, 2016 10:18pm
Biscuit

Sheesh, I know I am guilty of making it 110, but I just used the ‘Find’ function to count the number of times the word
‘Penny’ appeared in today’s General Debate and, after making a sigh of despair, my PC said ‘109, Biscuit.’
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January 4, 2016 10:18pm
sooty

Penny. I agree you are naive!
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January 4, 2016 10:20pm
sam green

I agree awww cmon.
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January 4, 2016 10:26pm
renderer

Penny if you think posting your loony claptrap on GD is going to gain you votes, then you are seriously deluded.
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January 4, 2016 10:26pm
Inandout

The litmus test over racial perceptions is when some parents of school students will move heaven and earth to get their kids enrolled in high decile colleges. Why do they do this when they have schools in their area? Well this is where (blazeoflight 9.55) prison warder’s quote can be paraphrased; ‘Give me a classroom of one good student and 29 bad students, and I’ll give you 30 bad students’.
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January 4, 2016 10:30pm
Odakyu-sen

blazeoflight

“Yep, many Israeli Hasbara visitors though!”

Eek! For a moment I thought you wrote “Israeli Hasboro visitors.” (Have Jewish bronies started showing up?!)

(Hands still trembling.)
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January 4, 2016 10:31pm
blazeoflight

A symptom of how Aussie is turning as feral as the US

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au

Note the poll: Should women on welfare be forced to use contraception? The result: 3 to 1 in favour.

What missing? Should men on welfare be chemically castrated?

Not a sexist society, our neighbours.

No way.
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January 4, 2016 10:38pm
blazeoflight

@Inandout

That’s the perception, sadly, but not the reality.

And the obverse of your distortion of that parable is that as kids from low deciles pour into higher decile schools, at great cost and inconvenience to their parents, the higher decile schools encounter no significant effects in behaviour problems (although they have to get creative in retaining high pass marks), but the lower decile schools lose funding, thus making their jobs even harder.

Our education policies are perverse.
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January 4, 2016 10:45pm
renderer

Penny, so, a few thoughts have crossed your mind? Must have been a long and lonely journey.
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January 4, 2016 10:49pm
Inandout

blazeoflight 10.45: The colleges that I am familiar with have quite strict entrance criteria, so those parents from low decile areas would know if their children were capable of performing well. And if there is any chance of that child disrupting classes then they are moved on smartly. A school with a good reputation attracts quality students.
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January 4, 2016 11:06pm

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