General Debate 23 January 2016

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fernglas

“The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which relatively unskilled persons suffer illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than it really is. The bias was first experimentally observed by David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University in 1999. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their own ineptitude and evaluate their own ability accurately.”

Just saying
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January 23, 2016 8:01am
Shawn Herles

The stupidity of transgenderism rolls on.

“Olympics Loosen Rules to Allow Pre-Op M-to-F Transsexuals to Compete with Women”

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/01/22/olympics-allow-transsexuals-to-compete-under-gender-they-identify-with/
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January 23, 2016 8:02am
Hajji

Peace upon you, Kiwibloggers.

And may ten thousand Katipo spiders infest your keyboards (just seeing if Hajji gets even more downticks than when wishing a lovely day!)
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January 23, 2016 8:02am
Shawn Herles

Blacks and the Confederacy

“Last July, Anthony Hervey, an outspoken black advocate for the Confederate flag, was killed in a car crash. Arlene Barnum, a surviving passenger in the vehicle, told authorities and the media that they had been forced off the road by a carload of “angry young black men” after Hervey, while wearing his Confederate kepi, stopped at a convenience store en route to his home in Oxford, Mississippi. His death was in no small part caused by the gross level of ignorance, organized deceit and anger about the War of 1861. Much of the ignorance stems from the fact that most Americans believe the war was initiated to free slaves, when in truth, freeing slaves was little more than an afterthought. I want to lay out a few quotations and ask what you make of them.”

http://humanevents.com/2016/01/20/blacks-and-the-confederacy/
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January 23, 2016 8:03am
sooty

YUP. She’s saying that every day!
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January 23, 2016 8:04am
Shawn Herles

The Cologne Riots & the Loss of a Moral Language

“On December 31, 2015, a mob of young Arab and North African men, perhaps as many as 1,000, assaulted, groped, harassed, and in some cases even raped European women in Cologne, Germany. It took almost a week for police to collaborate social media reports of the crime wave, and even longer for authorities to take much action. In the face of mounting criticism, the head of police resigned and Chancellor Angela Merkel faces unprecedented criticism for her open-door policy on immigrants. Now the story is spreading to Sweden, where police are being accused of covering up similar attacks by Muslim immigrants.

This is a nightmare situation for millions of people, including peaceful immigrants, the Europeans who opened their doors, and German politicians and police. And it is probably not over, because what is happening in Europe is a full-on cultural clash between convictions that are incompatible.

Blaming all immigrants is not the solution, nor is wholesale condemnation of German leaders. But people must realize that the cultural conflict simmering in Europe is not trivial. It is not one that can be solved by saying that “all cultures are equal,” or “you do you.” It is one rooted in fundamentally different understands of right and wrong, and of the value of human persons, especially women. And secularist Europe is unprepared to deal with it, because conversations about objective morality, notions of good and evil that transcend cultures, eras, and individual experiences are totally taboo. The fallout of the attacks highlights a fatal, and recurring, flaw in modern European political optimism: the denial of original sin and the subsequent inability to apply moral terms to cultural differences.”

http://www.theimaginativeconservative.org/2016/01/the-cologne-riots-and-the-loss-of-a-moral-language.html
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January 23, 2016 8:06am
Jack5

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Team Key is putting the full PR crush on to get a flag change – on taxpayer funds, of course,.

Do they now have a chance of getting a change?
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January 23, 2016 8:08am
Manolo

@Shawn: Those are the savages and barbarians that multiculturalists and progressives are happy to receive in NZ.
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January 23, 2016 8:11am
Viking2

They pay then how much?

According to the Public Service Association union, Auckland Council parking wardens earn between $41,968 and $58,560.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11578298

The Super City has a super parking warden who issued nearly double the value in tickets than the next best warden in the last financial year.

Officer 1013 – who the Herald agreed not to name – issued 8747 tickets worth $289,492.

Not bad for a 65-year-old pensioner, whose last job was assistant to the custodian of stamps at NZ Post.
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January 23, 2016 8:11am
Chuck Bird

Everything has been quiet about David Bain’s bid for compo. A little bird told me the report has been completed and the judge from Oz has gone home.

Why is National sitting on it? Are they waiting for DPF to come home and do some polling before they decide to accept or reject the recommendation of the report?
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January 23, 2016 8:13am
Manolo

I do hope NZ chooses to keep the flag. PM Key deserves to be politically defeated for pushing his arrogance and wasting money on this expensive whim of his.
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January 23, 2016 8:14am
Manolo

Will she make it? http://observer.com/2016/01/women-wont-save-hillary/
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January 23, 2016 8:20am
Manolo

Trump getting it from all quarters:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/22/rnc-cuts-debate-ties-with-conservative-magazine-over-anti-trump-issue.html?intcmp=hpbt2

Review issue, described as a “symposium”, featured a collection of scathing anti-Trump essays from noted conservatives, underscoring the deep resistance that remains to his unorthodox candidacy, despite his commanding lead in early polls.

Three of the National Review essays came from Fox News contributors Katie Pavlich, Erick Erickson and Cal Thomas.

“Trump’s liberal positions aren’t in the distant past—he has openly promoted them on the campaign trail,” Pavrich wrote. “Trump isn’t fighting for anyone but himself, which has been his pattern for decades.”
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January 23, 2016 8:24am
EAD

Amazing video going viral from Germany’s youth “Identitarian Movement”.

Goes to show that all is not lost and there is a cohort of young Patriotic Europeans who haven’t swallowed Marxist Globalist EU propaganda.

A must watch.

https://youtu.be/rPXI6tA31yI
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January 23, 2016 8:24am
DifferentPerspective

Socialists against the poor being better off?

More Monty Python stuff from the neo-fascist regressive left protesting the TPP.

Why on Earth are these idiots protesting the TPP? All the analysis shows that the low-wage, third world, oppressed worker economy of Vietnam is going to be the biggest winner out of signing the TPP!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-08/more-shoes-and-shrimp-less-china-reliance-for-vietnam-in-tpp

Aren’t these leftie neo-fascists the ones that proved their impeccable international socialist credentials by doing an OE in Nicaragua milking Jaguars and drinking coffee to show how they cared for the World’s poor and down-trodden?

These sick chardonnay neo-fascists are standing in the way of improving the per capita income of only US $1,910 per annum for Vietnamese. These protesters are clearly racists who obviously just think of the poor Vietnamese peasants as slitty-eyed nobodys who deserve to be kept scrabbling in the dirt for their $6 a day. The poverty line in urban Vietnam is $280 per year and 12% of the population (nearly 11 million Vietnamese) are under it.

TPP protesters – keeping 11 million Vietnamese in poverty – one placard at a time!

Despicable hypocrites!
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January 23, 2016 8:25am
Chuck Bird

The chickens might come home to roost for Hilary. Her comments about the women who accused her husband of sexual abuse are being looked at differently and the women are speaking out.
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January 23, 2016 8:27am
Griff

A must watch……?
Sorry EAD the grass outside is growing and it is sooo much more exciting watching than your vids or reading Shawnees latest cut and paste from some low info source.
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January 23, 2016 8:29am
Southern Raider

Good to see student unions have their priorities right. Rather than trying to make sure the student loan scheme is sustainable for future students they are instead scare mongering to protect criminals and bludgers who have knowing skipped the country with no intention of paying the taxpayer back.

FFS the biggest defaulter owes $290K. How do you rack up a loan that big, where is the checks and balances to ensure it can be paid back and why do we care if this person gets locked up coming back for a funeral
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January 23, 2016 8:30am
Southern Raider

Interesting fact about you anti flag changers

If Scotland had have voted for independence last year we would have been forced to change our flag anyway as the Union Jack would no longer be correct as the blue and white stands for Scotland
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January 23, 2016 8:35am
Stars And Stripes

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/76154973/duncan-garner-do-the-maths–education-isnt-free-and-schools-need-more-help

Duncan Garner having a whine about the illusion of free education and how poorly funded the system is and how if we got rid of crap spending programs we could pay for so much better.
The only crap he actually talks about as an example is the flag referendum but since he is struggling here is some more examples.
1.Treaty of Waitangi payments.
2.Social Welfare
3.Refugee programs and aid spending
4.Scrap a heap of gov’t departments and commissioners like Pacific Island Affairs and the Human Rights Commission and Women Affairs.
5.Scrap departments at universities like Islamic studies and other ones with no economic benefit to the country.

Hardly scratched the surface but that’s a start.
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January 23, 2016 8:36am
Southern Raider

I think the support for the new flag will dramatically increase once it is seen flying on places like the harbour bridge
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January 23, 2016 8:36am
Manolo

Just stretch the neck before the sword comes down:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3412363/Bishop-London-applauds-vicars-grown-beards-reach-Muslims-Tower-Hamlets.html

The Bishop of London has applauded two London priests for ‘reaching out’ to their Muslim parishioners by growing ‘opulent’ beards.

Rt Reverend Richard Chartres singled out two priests in Tower Hamlets – the Rev. Adam Atkinson, Vicar of St Peter’s church in Bethnal Green, and Rev. Cris Rogers of All Hallows Bow – who have grown bushy beards.
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January 23, 2016 8:37am
B.L.Zeebub

“The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which relatively unskilled persons suffer illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than it really is.

They first observed this back in 1999,really? I first noticed this effect back in 1973 when I was 12 years old,didn`t know it was a condition that was waiting to be discovered……..damn it, missed my chance at academic immortality ,story of my life I `spose : (
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January 23, 2016 8:38am
Southern Raider

Did anyone else see article about police getting extra riot training in preparation for TPP signing.

The fascist left should just be locked up. The unintelligent lies and misinformation borders on treason as they seek to destroy the NZ economy
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January 23, 2016 8:40am
artemisia

Brexit. Fortune’s report from Davos is saying it is now looking 50:50. Polls are indicating a lot of undecideds. Can’t imagine the latest EU proposal to keep Britain in will help. That’s the one which will remove a bunch of tax credits from minimum wage earners, whether Brits or not.
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January 23, 2016 8:41am
jcuk

If we want to solve the student loan non-payment problem the interest should be wiped so the impossible to pay amounts of one or two hundred thousand are not wasting iRD, police and court time … the interest was wiped for some it should have been back dated to cover all. The whole scheme was a mistake in thinking a university education brings monetary success by politicians to afraid to say those that can should by a form of UE which culls the no-hopers and does not permit non academic courses.
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January 23, 2016 8:43am
B.L.Zeebub

Extra training for the cops? Ha, they would be better off just issuing a dozen cops with Mossberg shottys loaded with rock salt and let them have at it ,declare the Skycity perimeter a free fire zone.
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January 23, 2016 8:46am
Jack5

Southern Raider posted at 8.35:

If Scotland had have voted for independence last year we would have been forced to change our flag anyway as the Union Jack would no longer be correct as the blue and white stands for Scotland

Don’t think so. Hawaii’s state flag contains the Union Jack, and it wasn’t even in the British Empire. The cross of St Andrew is just symbolic, and I doubt the atheistic leftists who run the SNP would remove this ancient Christian symbol of Scotland (and of Russia, of course).

Regardless, the St Andrew’s diagonal cross in the Union Jack can always symbolise the Scots who settled the bottom quarter of New Zealand, when that part of the country contained a far higher proportion of the national population than it does now.
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January 23, 2016 8:50am
Hajji

@ Southern Raider

‘If Scotland had have voted for independence last year…’

You are living in the fantasy of a ‘Braveheart’ past.

The ‘Scots’ are a pathetic people. William Wallace and countless others risked gruesome torture and death for independence.

On the other hand the modern ‘Scot’ was too f*c@ing lazy to get outta bed and down to the polling booth. The few that did, voted for free money.

Kinda like ‘Kiwis’ today…
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January 23, 2016 8:51am
Jack5

Pete George still hasn’t popped up on Kiwiblog to tell tell us what’s going on with this stuff on Lauda Finum about the Georges.

C’mon Pete, line ’em up.

http://www.laudafinem.com/
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January 23, 2016 8:54am
DifferentPerspective

The concerted media faux outrage about OIAs continues

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11578094

Not a single mention of the obvious conflict of interest (ie entitled media feel entitled to get something for nothing).

Not a mention that around the world – charging for official information where the administrative burden is excessive – is absolutely normal.

Not a mention that this provision has been in place for 30 years since the Act was enacted.

The dishonest reporting that this is a blanket provision to be applied to ALL OIAs from ALL media in ALL cases. There are strong, stringent and comprehensive guidelines about charging that every agency is compelled to follow that mean this is just another one of the never-ending list of lies told us by the dying old media.
http://www.justice.govt.nz/publications/global-publications/c/charging-guidelines-for-official-information-act-1982-requests.

Further proof that the least trusted profession
http://www.researchnz.com/pdf/Media%20Releases/Research%20New%20Zealand%20Media%20Release%20-%2004-06-15%20-%20Trust%20and%20Confidence.pdf
remains the least trustable profession. In all other professional walks of life, there is an expectation that conflicts of interest will be declared and behaviours will be modified so as to minimise the perception of conflicts of interest. Not with the NZ media!

And just to illustrate why us net taxpayers on Kiwiblog, should be comfortable with charging for OIAs here is an example of the inanity of some OIA requestors. Here is a dick making an OIA request about OIAs to every single department
http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2016/01/an-attack-on-our-democracy.html
imagine the cost of compiling this information.

This regressive socialist neo-facist already asks every agency every year for a list of all their OIAs broken down by requestor, date received, date responded, outcome etc. This kind of stuff takes thousands of hours across the state sector of taxpayers resources that could be used to provide public services. The Police alone receive 11,000 OIAs per year. Think of the cost, no wonder the cops aren’t on the streets – they’re at their desks answering OIAs.

This is the true cost of the unfettered use of a free resource, public money is diverted from public services to feeding the media and losers like NoRightTurn. I devoutly and passionately defend the OIA (including the bit that allows departments to charge where it is justified). So does the Chief Ombudsman.

What is so different about NZ media that they shriek about this where their US, UK, Australian and Canadian counterparts don’t?

What these hacks are really saying is “We’ve been gorging on the free buffet at taxpayers’ expense, and we don’t want to be paying for it when we turn up at the buffet table wanting to fill a hamper”.
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January 23, 2016 8:54am
stephieboy

Manolo, wow ! Who knows you could begin a new trend here cultivating a beard like tthose London vicars .Maybe not bushy enough ,tad whispy ,but who knows ?

Let your maleness shine through .
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January 23, 2016 8:58am
Harriet

“”…..Manolo (19,523 comments) says:

I do hope NZ chooses to keep the flag. PM Key deserves to be politically defeated for pushing his arrogance and wasting money on this expensive whim of his…..”

I said from the very start that Key has the most political capital of all PM’s in living memory. But no civil war. No revolution. No Republic. A national colouring in competition. A waste of political capital.

Why would you place so much political capital into something that is so subjective – and without it’s ally – a Republic?

A case of the theory being placed above and beyond the facts.

Truthfully, Paul Keating would say as much. Or as he put it “You have to carry the public with you.”

That’s hard to do when you have no CONCRETE reason for changing the flag.

In all honest truth – Key cannot give one single FACT why the flag ‘should’ or ‘needs’ to be changed.

His ego got the better of his genuine sentiment for a cohesive and internationally recognised NZ. Ideal PM for the flag change – but wrong timing.
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January 23, 2016 8:58am
igm

It is impossible to post anything negative on Stuff pertaining to “Slug” Garner. He who has further stuffed TV3 . . . maybe he can finish off Fairfax.
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January 23, 2016 9:00am
stephieboy

Harriret, still it was marvellous to see both flags fly over the harbour bridge this weekend and the winner is fast gaining favour around the suburbs on household flag poles.

Unquestionably it’s time has come .
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January 23, 2016 9:05am
igm

My radio was on Newstalkzb and along came the effeminate wimpy left-leaning slimeball Tame. Needless to say it was immediately turned off, just like many advertisers, and those they are trying to attract. Like “Slug” Garner, this little wimp is bad for business.
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January 23, 2016 9:10am
Jack5

Ah! The Stephieboys are up…

Good morning to you, and good morning to you, and you, and you …. and you.

What are these household flag poles in Auckland you speak of in your post of five minutes past the ninth hour? Do some also have the crescent moon with the stars?
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January 23, 2016 9:12am
Southern Raider

Agree IGM. Jack Tame does my head in. It’s even worse when they put him on breakfast during the week to cover all of Hoskings holidays
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January 23, 2016 9:13am
RF

No sign of our resident Don Quixote ? Maybe her horse has become lame.

Maybe, just maybe GD will be full of interesting and informative comments without being subjected to idle prattle.
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January 23, 2016 9:15am
stephieboy

Curious to know what our far right tards tune into since everything else appears tainted pink or red.Rush Lindburgh , Glen Beck ,Alex Jones etc ?
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January 23, 2016 9:19am
Jack5

The Stephieboys, the most racist posters on Kiwiblog, make another racist dig at Manolo at 8.58.

Their remark about a wispy beard is a dig at Manolo’s ethnicity, which they cannot leave alone (the folk from the tropical country Manolo hails from don’t usually have thick beards).

You Stephiestanis deeply resent that anyone from the world’s most populous Muslim country can see through the pre-medieval bullshit that is Islam.
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January 23, 2016 9:22am
Inandout

Hajji 8.02:

‘And may ten thousand Katipo spiders infest your keyboards’. Doubt if you could muster even half that number in the whole of NZ, but in the case of camel fleas on a reverse curse, we could gather 10 million in a jiffy.
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January 23, 2016 9:23am
calendar girl

@ jcuk –

“If we want to solve the student loan non-payment problem the interest should be wiped so the impossible to pay amounts of one or two hundred thousand are not wasting iRD, police and court time …”

To even consider your suggestion, I would want to know the $ amount that you advocate cancelling. Simply offsetting the amount against unquantified enforcement costs is not an adequate justification.

Any net taxpayer will be required to contribute to the cost of your suggestion, stepping up to pay for students or ex-students who fail (or in many cases decline) to meet their legally-enforceable debt obligations.
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January 23, 2016 9:25am
fernglas

I’m excited about the flag option; there’s a couple flying in my ‘hood, and whatever the the criticisms of its artistic merits, it is a hell of a lot better than the incumbent. Not only is it more distinctive and representative of my country, but it dispenses with the Union Flag, a symbol of the past.
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January 23, 2016 9:27am
stephieboy

Oh dear , what a catastrophe to befall Sarah,

BREAKING: Sarah Palin Just Received TRAGIC News – Please Pray for Sarah!

Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-sarah-palin-just-received-tragic-news-please-pray-for-sarah/#ixzz3y0UCaD8e
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January 23, 2016 9:28am
Stars And Stripes

Stephie- According to that old lefty dyke Rachel Stewart “The Rock” radio station is racist, sexist and homophobic so on that basis it’s got to be worth a look right.
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January 23, 2016 9:28am
Jack5

The bearded Bishop of London wants British men to grow beards “to reach out to the Muslims”.

Whatdaya think about that, Stephieboys?

Maybe Gillette or some other shaving company will take him out?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/12115434/Vicars-should-grow-beards-to-reach-out-to-Muslims-bishop-suggests.html
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January 23, 2016 9:36am
lilman

Haji did you type that post with the hand you used to wipe your backside?
Get into the real world,use toilet paper.
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January 23, 2016 9:37am
Dave Mann

Ngatokotoru Puna, 40, was seized at the airport on Monday over a $130,000 debt. He described his ordeal as “unbelievable” after an appearance at Manukau District Court today.

I’m disgusted that this thieving lying bastard was subsequently allowed to skip off back to the Cook Islands after paying off just $5000 of this $130,000 debt. He’s their Prime Minister’s nephew FFS.

Our system is a joke. He should be incarcerated (along with anybody else in the same position) in a special debtor’s prison and forced to work to pay it off.
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January 23, 2016 9:45am
Kimbo

@ Hajji

…You are living in the fantasy of a ‘Braveheart’ past.

The ‘Scots’ are a pathetic people. William Wallace and countless others risked gruesome torture and death for independence.

On the other hand the modern ‘Scot’ was too f*c@ing lazy to get outta bed and down to the polling booth. The few that did, voted for free money…

Sir, I refute that! Who else but a race so inventive and gastronomically gifted could have bequeathed to the modern palate…the deep fried mars bar. And the best you got to match it is, what? Baklava?!
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January 23, 2016 9:48am
Keeping Stock

Inland Revenue has received a surge of inquiries from student loan defaulters worried they could be arrested if they return to New Zealand.

One man who ignored his repayment obligations contacted the Weekend Herald from Australia and said he would now be scared to return for funerals or weddings.

The Government is unrepentant about the first use of the hardline measure – and a new trick up its sleeve will soon enable thousands of loan defaulters in Australia to be tracked down.

It says the arrest of Ngatokotoru Puna, 40, as he tried to leave New Zealand on Monday was a “last resort” after repeated warnings. Puna told media he was the nephew of Cook Islands Prime Minister Henry Puna

Student unions criticised the border arrest policy as draconian and likely to make overseas Kiwis “student loan refugees” – unable to return home for weddings, funerals or other important events.

After news of Puna’s arrest was revealed in the Herald yesterday, the IRD received more contact than usual from worried borrowers overseas.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11578293

It seems as though the message is getting through all of a sudden Dave. IRD has just drawn a line in the sand, and now needs to follow through with other defaulters like Puna to make sure their debt to the taxpayer is satisfied. I have no problem whatsoever with what IRD has done here, if they can get back some of the dosh that you and I have dished out to students over the years.
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January 23, 2016 9:51am
Komata

Kimbo

Fur insultin’ the Tartan, d’y ken he needs a Glasgae Kiss?
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January 23, 2016 9:54am
Keeping Stock

@ fernglas – despite a concerted anti-John Key vote (ironically, from lefties who actually want a new flag), I believe that the referendum result will be far closer than has thus far been predicted. At the start of the whole referendum process I was pretty lukewarm about a change of flag, but having now seen the Kyle Lockwood design flying alongside the current flag, I will be voting for change.
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January 23, 2016 9:54am
B.L.Zeebub

Aye,Komata,hope his mammy nee`s hoo to sew.
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January 23, 2016 9:58am
Komata

Och no, B.L his mammy wil na ken – ‘twil be the slavees task…
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January 23, 2016 10:04am
Kimbo

@ Keeping Stock

@ fernglas – despite a concerted anti-John Key vote (ironically, from lefties who actually want a new flag), I believe that the referendum result will be far closer than has thus far been predicted. At the start of the whole referendum process I was pretty lukewarm about a change of flag, but having now seen the Kyle Lockwood design flying alongside the current flag, I will be voting for change.

I saw the two flying side-by-side yesterday outside Douglas Pharmaceuticals in Henderson (thanks to that iconic Kiwi company, btw, for providing the civic service). Leaving aside the fact that I am probably leaning towards a change (I’ve wanted one for about 20 or so years, and will probably take this the ‘once-in-a-lifetime’ chance to do it), my impressions were as follows:

Aesthetically, the red in the Union Jack provides a greater contrast. The red stars in the Lockwood version are not in sufficient enough proportion to match the blue and the black. Instead, as with say modern versions of Scottish rugby kit, where they combine two dark colours (navy blue and dark purple), contrasted only with white, it lacks the vibrancy when you place another colour from the opposite end of the spectrum. (After this I’m moving in to a career in interior design).

But then you could argue that the shape and placement of the Union Jack is too “clean”, and lacks the necessary ability to creatively “distribute the space” on that flag. Put it this way – the old flag looks like a table cloth with the plates arranged before the meal, and the silver fern after.

So it is more ‘modern’. But, as with the stylised design of the fern, is ‘modern’ something that will go out of fashion? Or does “locking it in” on a flag ensure it will become iconic?
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January 23, 2016 10:07am
Komata

KS

Re the flag referendum:

We haven’t been told (AFAIK, although I could be wrong) who is going to be the ‘Disinterested, Neutral Observer’ in all this. IF there ISN’T one (ie, someone / people from another nation), and based on what seems to be happening at the moment, the result could be a foregone conclusion (if it isn’t already BTW) and we would be none the wiser.

The timing (‘conditioning’?) is simply too convenient….
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January 23, 2016 10:09am
stephieboy

Stars and Stripes , no The Rock is not to my tastes preferring the more soothing, calming resonance of the Concert program and the progressive forward thinking National .

You ?
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January 23, 2016 10:14am
Dave Mann

On the radio thing, I really miss Sean Plunket on RadioLive. I used to call him occasionally and he was a great radio host. I wonder if he’ll resurface somewhere…. but probably not as the NZ market is too small.

That having been said, David Slack is pretty good. He’s a greenie/leftie/socialist and I had him on about that the other day when I called him and we had a good-natured laugh about that. His topics are ‘softer’ than Sean’s and he’s on the other side of the political fence to me, but his style and presentation are good.

I can’t stand that walrus guy Sainsbury who is taking over soon. I won’t be listening. Every time he took over from Sean Plunket I wanted to throw my radio at the wall. He’s a boring mindless drone with the presentation skills of a dementia patient in the rest home. Why did they chuck Plunket and give him the job? Is Radioworks trying to destroy their business?

Anyway, that’s my radio review. Thanks for reading! Cheers 😀
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January 23, 2016 10:16am
Kimbo

@ Komata

Kimbo

Fur insultin’ the Tartan, d’y ken he needs a Glasgae Kiss?

No. Fuck the Geneva Convention and get really nasty: make him sit through a two hour class of the novices practicing at the Balclutha bagpipe club. And they think ISIS has the capacity to terrorise? Hah!

Plus make him eat a dozen mars bars while he does it. A dessert is only a dessert if it takes six months off your life with guaranteed heart disease when you consume it. You look at their baklava – filo, honey and pistachios?! Is that the best they can do?! It’s practically a health food! Camel jockey girlie men!
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January 23, 2016 10:21am
stephieboy

I believe the time may not be yet ripe for a flag change . A time to pause and think and give serious consideration to this ,

http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1265274795/316/3295316.jpg

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Tino+rangatira+flag&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjjlbDIq77KAhUDGKYKHQE1Dg4Q_AUIBygB&biw=1306&bih=938#imgrc=HILIsIEhSu8e_M%3A

Now this is who we really are !

Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou katoa
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January 23, 2016 10:22am
Harriet

“….The bearded Bishop of London wants British men to grow beards “to reach out to the Muslims”…..”

I think it is Tajikistan – a mostly muslim country where the police have shaved the beards off from over 1400 men to stop radicalisation from happening. I think it is the law but men volunteer to police to have it done – I presume then that the majority are ‘moderate’.

That may be a country to keep an eye on, as if nothing happens there then maybe there is such a thing as a moderate muslim society. Time will tell. Mind you – for the size of it Indonesia is pretty moderate.
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January 23, 2016 10:24am
Manolo

@stephieboy: Grow a wispy beard? Never. It would to close to some buggers I despised back home. 😀
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January 23, 2016 10:28am
Kimbo

@ Harriet

“….The bearded Bishop of London wants British men to grow beards “to reach out to the Muslims”…..”

Don’t you just love Anglicans? Well, much of their clergy, anyway. Reminds one of Louis XVI’s objection when a particularly outrageous nominee was suggested to him: “No! The bishop of Paris must at least believe in God”.
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January 23, 2016 10:29am
Harriet

I’d rather we just had letters on the flag like the Romans had and the US marines currently do.

They are flags with a purpose. Which is what is lacking in national flags today.
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January 23, 2016 10:30am
mikenmild

for the size of it Indonesia is pretty moderate.

Most Muslims countries are more peaceful places than the USA, for example.
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January 23, 2016 10:31am
Manolo

The National Review goes all the way against Trump:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace

Trump is a philosophically unmoored political opportunist who would trash the broad conservative ideological consensus within the GOP in favor of a free-floating populism with strong-man overtones.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427909/jeb-bush-accuses-donald-trump-plagiarism
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January 23, 2016 10:32am
Nookin

KS
I am with you on the flag. Even if the existing flag stays, I am grateful that the PM gave me the opportunity to consider change. The great shame is that some people have, hypocritically, made it a political issue (proving how shallow they are and how little confidence we can have in their principles) and others have made it a personal issues, showing how comptuous they are of the rights and views of others.
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January 23, 2016 10:33am
Harriet

Yeah well Milky – the Clinton’s have always done their best to be the dysfunctional Windsors. 😎
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January 23, 2016 10:33am
Kimbo

@ Harriet

Yeah well Milky – the Clinton’s always did want to be the dysfunctional Windsors. ?

What does that make the Kennedys?!
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January 23, 2016 10:35am
Harriet

What does that make the Kennedys?!

Still dead. And the rest are now boring enough to be. 😎
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January 23, 2016 10:36am
stephieboy

mm, intersting point.

Manolo, so sad that you feel such loathing for your homeland and all because of a religion . A retired geologist I spoke to recently who has travelled extensively world wide on mineral and oil surveys , found Indonesia the most fascinating in terms of geology and geography .

He found the people he met unfailing in courtesy and politeness .
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January 23, 2016 10:42am
Fletch

The White House (in response to a question) agrees that it is highly likely that Iran will use some of the $100 billion we are giving them to finance terrorism, but that’s ok, because we stopped them getting the bomb. Um, couldn’t they have done both?

Listen to the circular argument –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_4K05wgHso
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January 23, 2016 10:42am
RF

Interesting political poll results that have Labour at 27. The left are publicly ignoring this although I hear there is a fair amount of soul searching within the labour camp. Cunners is apparently wearing a smug I told you so smirk.

Although sweet cheeks might be tempted to have a BBQ the union movement has a strangle hold on the party and will block any ideas of a change in leader.

Basically Labour are saddled with a leader that the majority of their caucus does not want. They are stuffed……..
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January 23, 2016 10:44am
Fletch

A video by a fearful young German lady that has gone viral.

Hello, you can read the newspapers but this video is about the real situation in Germany. I would like to tell everyone about this on Youtube and Facebook. I am almost 16. I would like everyone to know what is going on, what I am authentically feeling at this moment.

And I am so scared everywhere. For example, if my family and I go out together, or if I see a movie with my friends. Usually I stay at home, but sometimes I stay out until 6 pm in winter, and it is so scary. It is just very hard to live day-to-day life as a woman.

I just want to say that I am not a racist. But one day, a terrible thing happened at the supermarket. I ran all the way home. I was so frightened for my life. There’s no other way to describe it.

My aunt and her friend have said you have to grow up. Why should we, children, have to grow up in such fear? It’s not just me, my friends too. You can see on Facebook, a 17 year old attacked, a 15 year old attacked, two 12-year olds attacked, so many. It is really so sad that this is happening … because of YOU PEOPLE. 🙁

[…]

One time in summer, the Muslims said we were sluts for walking outside in a t-shirt.

Yes, we were wearing t-shirts. It’s summer!

Thank you, Angela Merkel, for killing Germany! I have no more respect for you, Merkel. I do not think you know what you have done. You do not see how our lives have changed. Open your eyes! Is this normal? Should I, a 16-year old who is almost 17, be so scared to walk outside my house? No, it is not normal. You have killed Germany!

This is the truth. We are no longer allowed to walk outside. We are no longer allowed to wear our clothes. We are no longer allowed to live the German life. This is the sad truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BCrL8kDRdI

You can read the entire transcript at the link –
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/22/16-year-old-girls-migrant-fears-video-keeps-disappearing-off-facebook/
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January 23, 2016 10:47am
Manolo

@stephieboy: Tell your geologist friend to move and live there for a few years. I can almost guarantee his opinion will not be the same. Allahu akbar.
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January 23, 2016 10:47am
redeye

Duncan Garner has had a poll running on the radio live website since Wednesday – currently 52% in favour of change, 46% current flag and 2% no vote. Go you good thing!!!
http://www.radiolive.co.nz/DUNCAN-GARNER-POLL-What-flag-will-you-vote-for/tabid/615/articleID/111632/Default.aspx
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January 23, 2016 10:47am
All_on_Red

“Most Muslims countries are more peaceful places than the USA, for example.”

Well the US and even NZ would probably be more “peaceful” if we cut the hands off thieves, decapitated drug dealers and murderers and stoned adulterers…
Just sayin
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January 23, 2016 10:48am
stephieboy

Manolo , he was there for three years and I think that was adequate fro him to form some impressions and with out the kind of chips you carry with you on both shoulders .
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January 23, 2016 10:50am
flipper

Nookin….
Very well said
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January 23, 2016 10:54am
Fletch

Obama releases an expert Al Qaeda bomb-maker from Gitmo. WTF is wrong with this guy? Really? He ought to be locked up for treason.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/21/obama-releases-al-qaedas-most-skilled-explosives-e/
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January 23, 2016 10:55am
stephieboy

All on Red, few Muslim countries sanction cutting off of hands etc. Indonesia and Malaysia are examples who don’t do so,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Criminal_Procedure#Present

I think mm may of had in mind the prevalence of mass shootings like Sandy Hook , Columbine , Charleston , Aurora , San Bernardino etc ,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/mass-shootings-in-america/
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January 23, 2016 10:57am
waikatogirl

Dave Mann
On the radio thing, I really miss Sean Plunket on RadioLive. I used to call him occasionally and he was a great radio host. I wonder if he’ll resurface somewhere…. but probably not as the NZ market is too small.
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I agree Dave. I miss Sean too. Wonder where he disappeared to? New partner, new interests?
Agree about David Slack too. Ok for holiday fill-in but too many lefties on the airwaves for me to listen too long these days without tearing my hair out.
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January 23, 2016 10:57am
Harriet

“….. geologist ….. found Indonesia the most fascinating in terms of geology and geography ….”

Indonesia is made up of over 1200 islands. There is probably nothing similar.
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January 23, 2016 11:01am
Fletch

Richard Dawkins realises (at least some) of the positives of Christianity.

“There are no Christians, as far as I know, blowing up buildings,” Dawkins said. “I am not aware of any Christian suicide bombers. I am not aware of any major Christian denomination that believes the penalty for apostasy is death.”

“I have mixed feelings about the decline of Christianity, in so far as Christianity might be a bulwark against something worse,” he said.
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January 23, 2016 11:06am
Kimbo

@ Harriet

…Indonesia is made up of over 1200 islands…

I believe the term you are searching for is ‘archipelago’.

Sorry, just wanted to stake my claim for the ‘smarmy know-it-all prick of the day’ award. It is one I covet, and in my own over-inflated estimation I unofficially win it on a regular basis. But Jack5 has the capacity to prick my bubble regularly. Bastard!
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January 23, 2016 11:06am
stephieboy

Harriet, yes there is the fact it is an Archipelago ,but more interestingly to him as a professional ,the way Indonesia sets astride massive moving tectonic plates ! These have given rise to 76 active volcanoes in living memory ,

http://volcano.oregonstate.edu/vwdocs/volc_images/southeast_asia/indonesia/tectonics.html

Any geologist or geographer etc would find that alone fascinating enough .
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January 23, 2016 11:07am
waikatogirl

at 3am this morning we wandered outside to look at the 5 planets all in a line. Absolutely spectacular and large enough to see easily.

The sky was completely clear of cloud and as we live outside the city, completely dark. Stunningly beautiful and worth a look if you are up before dawn.

Believe they will be visible for a couple more weeks.

Makes you realise how tiny earth is and how insignificant our worldly worries are in such a huge universe!
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January 23, 2016 11:12am
Harriet

“….Sorry, just wanted to stake my claim for the ‘smarmy know-it-all prick of the day’ award….”

I honestly beat you to that as I was starting to write that ‘Indonesia’ has not much to do with geography other than it’s ‘generally known’ location….. a better thing to say would be the archipelago area consisting of 1200 islands….but I gave up as I remembered it was that undeserving Milky…. 😎

But unlike you I had to use spellchecker….so yes… you did win based solely on your natural talent….call that what you may…. 😎
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January 23, 2016 11:13am
All_on_Red

“Few”?
Citation needed.Indonesia has only 200 mio people, whilst there are 1.4 Billion Muslims. You probably need more examples to demonstrate “few”
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January 23, 2016 11:14am
Kimbo

@ Harriet

…you did win based solely on your natural talent….call that what you may…. ?

χάρισμα

http://biblehub.com/greek/5486.htm
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January 23, 2016 11:18am
Fletch

It’s likely that the man who claimed he was the subject of abuse by priests (which sent four of them to jail, where one was denied a heart operation and died) made the whole thing up. The original rape story was reported in Rolling Stone by the same woman reporter who got in trouble for fabricating the rape crisis at the University of Virginia.

Meanwhile, these men are still in jail and the ‘victim’ (who has psychological problems) is now a millionaire.

A Philadelphia priest died in prison after being convicted of repeatedly raping a 10-year-old boy. A new report from court-appointed psychiatrist concludes the accuser, now a young man with a $5 million settlement in his pocket, may be a pathological liar and his whole testimony has been thrown into serious doubt

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/21/rolling-stones-disgraced-uva-reporter-faces-scrutiny-catholic-child-rape-story/

“Four men were sent to jail because of Gallagher’s accusations, and one of those men died in prison. At Engelhardt’s funeral, the Reverend James Greenfield, the provincial who leads the Oblates of St. Francis de Sales, revealed that on the eve of his criminal trial, Engelhardt could have negotiated a deal that would gotten him off with just community service. Instead, he got sentenced to six to 12 years in prison “because he would not perjure himself by pleading guilty to ‘make a deal,’ to admit to a crime that he did not commit.”

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/01/29/billy-doe-altar-boy-sends-four-men-prison-philadelphia-rape-case-417565.html
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January 23, 2016 11:20am
Harriet

Thanks Stephie I didn’t know there were that many which had been recently active – I presume then that some are underwater volcanoes.

I wasn’t having a go at the geologist……just that ‘indonesia’ would not be overly important to him. It’s just a general name.
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January 23, 2016 11:22am
Simon

Probably let milkenmong speak for herself.

But take Indonesia and maylasia considerable state and wider public discrimination against ethnic minorities such Chinese. Islam is an important component of the state.

Indonesia and maylasia fairly standard fucked up Moslem countries whosese economies held together by ethnic non Moslem Chinese
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January 23, 2016 11:23am
Hajji

@ waikatogirl

‘The sky was completely clear of cloud and as we live outside the city, completely dark. Stunningly beautiful and worth a look if you are up before dawn.’

Want to join with us for fadj (dawn prayers)?

The alignment was created, after all, by Allah (‘God’) who ordained this would happen and cause wonder among mankind!
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January 23, 2016 11:23am
mikenmild

Well, on the face of it Fletch, it’s pretty unlikely that a Catholic priest, of all people, would be abusing little boys.
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January 23, 2016 11:24am
stephieboy

All on Red, well lets try another country with c 200 million , Pakistan which similar to Indonesia has inherited in part a judicial code and practice from its former colonial rulers which precludes that use of the more barbaric punishments associated with strict Sharia.

Interestingly though when we get instances of serious violent offending here we often get the baying for similar punishment s to those offenders by guess who…. ?

Simon , held together by only ethnic Chinese.? ?Substantiate that please !
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January 23, 2016 11:24am
Kimbo

@ Harriet

I honestly beat you to that as I was starting to write…but I gave up as I remembered it was that undeserving Milky

I haven’t heard so many excuses since Laila Harre’s election-night concession speech! 😉

Here, let me translate what you really meant: “…and what do I get? A one-way ticket to Palooka-ville!…You don’t undertand! I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_GGVDVrIcM
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January 23, 2016 11:28am
starboard

” milkenmong ”

Lol..snigger snort..
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January 23, 2016 11:30am
stephieboy

Waikato girl , thank you for the conjunction of the planets . Will be up at the crack of dawn to view .Fortunately we don’t have Ugly Truth or Reid etc about making dire doomsday predictions about this fascinating natural celestial phenomena .

Kimbo , thanks for the clip from a stirring and powerful film about greed and manipulation from all sides !
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