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stephieboy

Padriv Ustoev,

“Is Sweden now the rape capital of the world? No. “

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/36d3z8/is_sweden_now_the_rape_capital_of_the_world_no/

BTW Sweden’s rape stats are much the same as ours . Go and figure !
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January 15, 2016 11:13am
publicwatchdog

Do keep up Calendar GIRL?

Commenting on blogs is NOT ‘election advertising’ – even during the official election campaign period (which is months away)?

But hey!

Thanks for continuing to read, comment and (even) RESEARCH my posts!

(Your apparent obsession(?) with my contributions, in my view, is simply fascinating ….:)

Good (Calendar) GIRL!

Well done.

Kind regards

Penny Bright
2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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January 15, 2016 11:16am
Awww C-mon

Penny that doesn’t cut it, everyone knows Tindell so don’t take the soft option, to use your words the other day ‘harden up’ and make a call.

Do you believe any ‘corporate’ can act with social responsibility or is that the domain of the ‘public’ personalities
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January 15, 2016 11:17am
AgentBallSack

Climate scientists that get paid to push global warming believe in it? Interesting concept milkman. Next thing you will be telling us priests believe in God.
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January 15, 2016 11:18am
notrotsky

I see P Dim the noted cumberground is back again, always good to get a look at the quality of candidates for the Auckland elections. Amongst a plethora of liars, crooks, troughers and dimwits she is arguably the most risible of the lot, a true fustilarian who is soon to become a mumblecrust.

Keeping it real

Notrotsky
Pubic Watchdog and scobberlotcher
Auckland Mayoral Candidate 2016
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January 15, 2016 11:19am
Inandout

ross411 9.16: If Hitler was a junkie, and that recording was genuine, then his mind seemed sharp enough. Presumably he wasn’t reading off notes.
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January 15, 2016 11:21am
publicwatchdog

Again Kiwibloggers – in my opinion – on General Debate on Kiwiblog, NOBODY can be classified as a ‘troll’.

Arguably yes on defined topics – someone can be classified as a ‘troll’ – but NOT on General Debate.

Penny Bright
2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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January 15, 2016 11:21am
dime

“The issue is that our fears need to be real and factual, not deluded and paranoid”

like when my best friend left a bali nightclub and an hour later it exploded?

or maybe like the hostage situation at a cafe in sydney, 5kms from my friends house last year?

theres two examples.

or do these welfare seekers get a pass because they may not have committed an act of terror yet?

or do all muslims get a pass because we have been lucky enough not to have had a terror attack on our soil?
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January 15, 2016 11:21am
waikatogirl

Alan Rickman, actor has died. Sherriff of Nottingham, Love Actually, etc

Another one bites the dust.
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January 15, 2016 11:26am
AgentBallSack

Prime Minister’s son Max Key parodied in Instagram account…
Stuff all over this like a mad womens shit. Oh hey Penny, didn’t see you there.
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January 15, 2016 11:29am
publicwatchdog

So Dime – you don’t believe in ‘innocent until PROVEN guilty’ – sort of thing?

Penny Bright
2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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January 15, 2016 11:31am
publicwatchdog

I am really looking forward to your standing as a 2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate No Trotsky / NorthShoredoc – so I can see for myself your ‘two faces’ – as it were?

Kind regards

Penny Bright
2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate (who puts her REAL name to her posts 🙂
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January 15, 2016 11:34am
EAD

Mikemild 10.52am,

The Stephieboys come on here regularly to remind us how many of us are “cavemen” and “neanderthals” for not appreciating how wonderful, exciting, vibrant and tolerant Mt Roskill is as people go about their lives in multiculti utopia amongst the diversity.

I just thought it’d be an interesting experiment to maybe bring the Stephieboys back to reality to see how vibrant and tolerant Mt Roskill is? If he has been speaking the truth to us, surely someone dressed as a backdoor bandit would have nothing to worry about?
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January 15, 2016 11:35am
mikenmild

It’s nice that you put your real name to your comments, Penny. Unfortunately, it doesn’t enhance the reputation of said real name.
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January 15, 2016 11:35am
rangitoto

Welcome party for refugees mass groping.

“FURY was growing in Germany tonight over mounting evidence of a cover-up of migrant sex crimes after it emerged a welcome party for refugees held two months before the Cologne rapes descended into a mass groping session. ”

“Today the council official responsible for the integration of refugees in the Cologne region admitted organisers knew about the sex attacks at the event but did not want to make a fuss.”

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/634815/Cologne-attacks-fury-migrant-sex-cover-up-refugee-event-groping-Germany
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January 15, 2016 11:36am
dime

“So Dime – you don’t believe in ‘innocent until PROVEN guilty’ – sort of thing”

not when it comes to selecting people to live in our country. they aren’t NZ citizens.

Dime goes on probabilities.
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January 15, 2016 11:38am
publicwatchdog

mikenmild (18,574 comments) says:
January 15th, 2016 at 11:35 am
It’s nice that you put your real name to your comments, Penny. Unfortunately, it doesn’t enhance the reputation of said real name.

I think I’ll leave that to Auckland voters to decide Mikenmild – of which – as I understand it, you are not one?

But thank you for continuing to read and comment on my post(s?)

Kind regards

Penny Bright
2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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January 15, 2016 11:41am
Odakyu-sen

“So Dime – you don’t believe in ‘innocent until PROVEN guilty’ – sort of thing”

Occupational Health & Safety surely doesn’t. If it’s a potential hazard, it must be eliminated, before anyone gets hurt.
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January 15, 2016 11:42am
mikenmild

Not being an Auckland voter Penny, may I wish you every possible success in your mayoral campaign?
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January 15, 2016 11:43am
Awww C-mon

Penny, IF you are here to engage and have a discussion why are you choosing to interact so promptly to the likes of Dime and Notrotsky in a combative way yet not with me when I am trying hard to continue the discussion you started about public vs corporate and left vs right.
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January 15, 2016 11:43am
dime

“Prime Minister’s son Max Key parodied in Instagram account…
Stuff all over this like a mad womens shit.”

My god. Between Stuff & the Herald.. they think the entire country is made up of women aged 18-23.

Stuff, could you try any harder. “john keys playboy son”.

Fuck we are short of celebrities in this country
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January 15, 2016 11:44am
Captain Mainwaring

Mrs. Delusion.
Thank you for including me on your ‘rogues’ gallery’ yesterday.
Just reminding you that I’m still here. When you say something worthy of a response I’ll be back.
Could be a while. In the meantime, if you want to get a measure of how much sense you’re making just keep counting the downticks.
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January 15, 2016 11:46am
ciaron

@ Waikatogirl,

That’s some sad news… there seems to be quite a few of that particular vintage pass recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSUGp9Yz1sk
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January 15, 2016 11:47am
publicwatchdog

“Do you believe any ‘corporate’ can act with social responsibility or is that the domain of the ‘public’ personalities”

I believe that corporate ‘social responsibility’ can still serve corporate interests – which fundamentally comes down to increasing their profitability?

But – beware!

Look at how many people were sucked into buying VWs – because of how ‘environmentally-friendly’ they were supposed to be?

“The New York Times

The Wrath of Volkswagen’s Drivers

John Decker in his 2013 Volkswagen Jetta SportWagen. “I feel totally ripped off,” he said.

MAX WHITTAKER FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES
By JAD MOUAWAD and CHRISTOPHER JENSEN
SEPTEMBER 21, 2015
Volkswagen’s stunning admission that it sold diesel-powered cars that intentionally faked emissions testing results has left many of their owners — who thought they were buying fuel-efficient and environmentally friendly vehicles — angry and feeling betrayed.

The deception could prove a major threat to Volkswagen’s reputation in the United States and could break the trust that the German automaker had cultivated with car owners over the years. It could also have lasting consequences for the future of diesel-powered technology championed by Volkswagen, which has been seeking to make a comeback in the United States.
…..”

Penny Bright
2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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January 15, 2016 11:48am
notrotsky

@ Penny Dim

I think i’ll take a leaf out of your book and run on a single issue.

If voted in as Mayor I will ensure the serial rates evader, liar and fustilarian who styles herself as P Bright but is more commonly known as P Dim (aka the Mad Trout, aka Mrs Delusion, aka the Cumberground of Unctious and Notorious Tendencies) will be pursued for full costs related to her non payment of rates.

Should these costs not be able to be paid her lodgings are to be publicly burnt to the ground livestreamed on the net with Auckland ratepayers invited to throw rotten fruit and vegetables at the weeping loon for $25 a minute while she screeches incoherences to the sky.

Surely that is a cause that the ratepayers could flock to ?

Keeping it real

Notrotsky
Pubic Watchdog and scobberlotcher
Auckland Mayoral Candidate 2016
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January 15, 2016 11:49am
jcuk

Milkie … no I will not debate the issue with you because it is not a subject of interest to me nor do I have any knowledge of the subject. but rather I have my gut feelings of what is likely the situation of a new idea being presented and traditionalists must be put in their place.
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January 15, 2016 11:52am
Stars And Stripes

600 Syrian refugees are coming whether you like or not. Other Muslims may arrive here who fit the skills criteria whether you like it or not . Still others may arrive to fill our Refugee quota whether you like it or not

Stephieboy- the only ones coming here will be under the refugee(bludger) category as Muslims by and large don’t have any skills anyone wants except the ability to handle explosives and how to run a dairy.
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January 15, 2016 11:52am
dime

LMAO heres a gem from the Herald:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11574158

Basically – if youre a single mum, just find someone you can fuck but not be involved in. that way you can keep relying on the glorious state to provide you with cash!

The article doesnt state what broke up her family. i doubt shes a widow. maybe she likes “bad boys” or just “got bored”.

Apparently shes been single a couple of years but has a 1 year old…

This example of what not to do in life is filed under parenting!!!!
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January 15, 2016 11:53am
Awww C-mon

Penny please read the excerpt below and tell me that Mr Tindell is main focus is to “serve corporate interests – which fundamentally comes down to increasing their profitability”

-The Tindall Foundation was established by Stephen and Margaret Tindall in 1994. Stephen’s business, The Warehouse, which he founded in 1982, had been very successful and the family (including 5 children) wanted to share some of the financial rewards with others. Aware of the social hardships many people in New Zealand were facing, the Tindalls began to donate to communities and organisations who were in need of support.
Originally the family was driven by a desire to support initiatives that assisted families and communities. They wanted to provide money that would to help address issues and resolve problems rather than just manage them. Early on they realised there were many other areas of need and so their support grew.

Between 1995 and 2014 The Tindall Foundation has donated over $135M to help communities across New Zealand. In addition, it has paid over $116M to the Government in prepaid tax
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January 15, 2016 11:55am
mikenmild

notrotsky
‘fustilarian’ was a new one on me. Thank you, and thanks to the Bard of Avon.
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January 15, 2016 11:56am
fernglas

I don’t believe that is her real name. “Penny Bright”?. You must be joking. That’s a joke name, like Naughtius Maximus or Ivor Biggun. I have carefully searched the internet and no reference to such a person appears before 2009. I have gone carefully through the declassified files here at work and the name does not appear. Rob Muldoon made no mention of her, and the welding place denies ever having such a person around in any capacity. My mate John Minto never saw her fronting up to the Red Squad. My research instead suggests that she was infiltrated into this country some years ago by the Albanian Ladies Possum Skinning League and was a sleeper until activated in recent years. The headwear is the real clue. Her mission, as I understand it, is to pave the way for an Islamic-based state, which people will turn to in despair at what passes for democratic debate.

Herself will of course deny this, but I challenge her to prove otherwise.
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January 15, 2016 11:57am
Albert_Ross

Awww C-mon is slightly missing the point.

Even if the Tindalls had never given a cent to charity, they would still have brought great public benefit by establishing and running The Warehouse.

That is because the Warehouse, like other corporates, provides goods and services that some people want at prices that those people are willing to pay for them. If it failed to do so, it would go out of business.

Unlike the public sector, which provides what it wants to provide and forces people to pay for it, whether those people want it or not. If it fails to provide what people want, it just carries on providing it.
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January 15, 2016 12:01pm
mikenmild

fernglas
Revenge for the New Zealand connection in an attempt to assassinate Enver Hoxha:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banda_Mustafaj
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January 15, 2016 12:02pm
publicwatchdog

notrotsky (272 comments) says:
January 15th, 2016 at 11:49 am
@ Penny Dim

I think i’ll take a leaf out of your book and run on a single issue.

If voted in as Mayor I will ensure the serial rates evader, liar and fustilarian who styles herself as P Bright but is more commonly known as P Dim (aka the Mad Trout, aka Mrs Delusion, aka the Cumberground of Unctious and Notorious Tendencies) will be pursued for full costs related to her non payment …

Please provide the information Northshoredoc / No Trotsky which confirms that any of the information that I have EVER provided on Kiwiblog has been factually inaccurate.

(As opposed to my opinions – or predictions which have not always proven to come to pass (as it were).

Please be advised that I regard your use of the (unsubstantiated) word ‘liar’ in relation to myself to be both offensive and defamatory.

PS: What is this ‘single issue’ to which you refer – upon which you purport that I am standing?

Penny Bright
2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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January 15, 2016 12:03pm
B.L.Zeebub

Mad Woman’s Shit
The outcome of actions made by someone who has no shame or awareness of the action in question. “Mad woman’s shit” comes from mental-health institutions. When a woman is crazy enough, she will shit anywhere. Then she will throw, spread and smear her shit around her environment. She has no shame or awareness of her actions.
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January 15, 2016 12:05pm
Awww C-mon

Hi Albert, more than slightly! I have done a lot of work with the Warehouse group, the work that they do in the community at a store level is amazing. The social impact of their organisation is considerable across so many layers, including the one have mentioned
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January 15, 2016 12:09pm
fernglas

Penny @12:03

Do some research on what constitutes defamation before bandying the term around. If you had done so before issuing the proceedings against the Council you would have saved Auckland ratepayers a lot of money. Just because someone calls you names doesn’t mean they’ve defamed you. Anyway, damages in defamation are awarded for harm to reputation, and so I think, even if successful, that any quantum will not come near the cost of filing fees.
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January 15, 2016 12:12pm
ciaron

B.L.Zeebub (524 comments) says:
January 15th, 2016 at 12:05 pm
Mad Woman’s Shit
The outcome of actions made by someone who has no shame or awareness of the action in question. “Mad woman’s shit” comes from mental-health institutions. When a woman is crazy enough, she will shit anywhere. Then she will throw, spread and smear her shit around her environment. She has no shame or awareness of her actions.

I suspect that most people think of that as a fictitious turn of phrase, but my recently passed mother spent a fair bit of time as a carer and housekeeper in various facilities, and on several occasions had to clean up the mess after incidents much like the above, and because of that, she preferred to look after the gentlemen.
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January 15, 2016 12:15pm
Keeping Stock

So Dime – you don’t believe in ‘innocent until PROVEN guilty’ – sort of thing?

Penny Bright
2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.

One could ask the same of you Penny, given your jihad against John Banks. Did you ever apologise to him for all the slander after the High Court allowed his appeal against his trumped-up conviction? After all, he too was entitled to the presumption of innocence when your mate McCready relentlessly went after him (and lost). Where was “innocent until PROVEN guilty” when you were signing posts off “Dodgy John has gone”?

You madam, are guilty of cast-iron hypocrisy in your response to Dime.
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January 15, 2016 12:15pm
Captain Mainwaring

“600 Syrian refugees are coming whether you like or not.”

Sillyboy, would you have a view on whether or not ALL the 600 should be comprised of family groups and that no independent single men should be included?
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January 15, 2016 12:16pm
notrotsky

@ P Dim – as has been demonstrated repeatedly by the good KeepingStock you are a serial liar as demonstrated by your continued postings on this very blog which are in direct contradiction of your comment that you don’t do personal insults.

Would you prefer some different terminology, perhaps abydocomist would be more to your liking or perhaps we should style you as a saddlegoose, certainly your behaviour on this blog could have one typing you as a smell-feast.

Keeping it real

Notrotsky
Pubic Watchdog and scobberlotcher
Auckland Mayoral Candidate 2016

@Mikenmild – Yes shakespeare was and still is a genius – I’ve put a few more in this diatribe for you.
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January 15, 2016 12:18pm
SPC

dime, the story in the Herald is a reprint from the Washington Post, it has nothing to do with lifestyle on the local DPB (you failed to note the one year old had been child care).
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January 15, 2016 12:21pm
Lance

I see Stuff has caught the Hooralds Max Key obsession syndrome.
Pathetic
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January 15, 2016 12:33pm
Awww C-mon

Penny,

Still looking for a response to these two questions please

“Penny, IF you are here to engage and have a discussion why are you choosing to interact so promptly to the likes of Dime and Notrotsky in a combative way yet not with me when I am trying hard to continue the discussion you started about public vs corporate and left vs right?” (I added the question mark just to clarify I was after a response)

and

Penny please read the excerpt below and tell me that Mr Tindell is main focus is to “serve corporate interests – which fundamentally comes down to increasing their profitability”

-The Tindall Foundation was established by Stephen and Margaret Tindall in 1994. Stephen’s business, The Warehouse, which he founded in 1982, had been very successful and the family (including 5 children) wanted to share some of the financial rewards with others. Aware of the social hardships many people in New Zealand were facing, the Tindalls began to donate to communities and organisations who were in need of support.
Originally the family was driven by a desire to support initiatives that assisted families and communities. They wanted to provide money that would to help address issues and resolve problems rather than just manage them. Early on they realised there were many other areas of need and so their support grew.

Between 1995 and 2014 The Tindall Foundation has donated over $135M to help communities across New Zealand. In addition, it has paid over $116M to the Government in prepaid tax
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January 15, 2016 12:33pm
starboard

Hmmmm..

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/75928343/judge-denies-picture-application-for-wellknown-new-zealand-actor
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January 15, 2016 12:34pm
dime

“dime, the story in the Herald is a reprint from the Washington Post, it has nothing to do with lifestyle on the local DPB (you failed to note the one year old had been child care).”

ah ok, so its working cause it has to.

still should be flagged as a cautionary tale imho
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January 15, 2016 12:42pm
dime

It looks like James Anderson is about to go past the great Sir Richard in the eng v SA test.

He’s currently on 427 wickets. (Hadlee took 431, Kapil Dev 434).

Course Paddles played 86 tests and Anderson is in his 112th.

The average a bit different too 22 v 29..

In Dimes opinion, the only truly great pace bowler playing today is Steyn. 406 wickets @ an average of 22!! with todays flat wickets and giant bats, a bowling average of 26 is the old 22? so for steyn to still be that low is insane.
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January 15, 2016 12:45pm
SPC

Padriv Ustoev, it is offensive to Moslems for you to lie when posing as one, Kings invented institutionalised patriarchy with male line primogeniture (which influenced property rights/estate inheritance), Jesus created religious patriarchy when his church declared him son of God, the Hindus created the zero, astronomy has been around since antiquity – millennia before the mud-born knew what pottery wheel was.
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January 15, 2016 12:47pm
mikenmild

dime
Steyn is awesome.
Personally, I’m looking forward to seeing how Mohammad Amir shapes up. Two games here next weekend: 20/20 at the stadium on Friday and one-dayer at the Basin (yay) on Monday.
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January 15, 2016 12:51pm
ciaron

Is there a way to insert pictures into the comments?
-just got a couple of pearlers by email I think would spread a bit of humour 🙂
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January 15, 2016 12:53pm
Albert_Ross

Aww C-mon, I do not doubt what you say about the Warehouse’s charitable activities.

But pointing to this example in refutation of the suggestion that “corporate interests” and “the public interests” are in conflict, is again to miss the point. It suggests that corporates who don’t do that sort of thing and instead focus solely on making a profit are not doing anything of public benefit; and that is quite wrong.

Similarly, some people seem to be under the impression that paying taxes is the only way in which corporates provide public benefit. That’s quite wrong as well.

It is a good and beneficial thing if people are able to obtain the goods and services that they want at prices that they are willing to pay for them. Efficiently providing goods and service that people want at a price that people are willing to pay for them is what corporates are driven by the profit motive to do.

As opposed to public services, which provide what they want to provide regardless of whether people want or are willing to pay for it.
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January 15, 2016 12:53pm
SPC

dime, reading between the lines. an either or.

1. newly single (separates from partner 2 years back while with 6 year old), no longer on pill gets pregnant ends up with new child, then struggles with continuing to date when with new child. Basically a working adult who reverted to being an impregnated teen (burden of a new born on her lifestyle) when she and her partner separated.

2. newly single (separates from partner 2 years back while with 6 year old), wants a second child, but wonders how long before she can find a new partner so deliberately has the child first and begins to look for new partner afterwards – but finds this to be hard now she has a young child.
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January 15, 2016 12:57pm
Awww C-mon

Hi Albert yup 100% agree.
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January 15, 2016 12:58pm
stephieboy

Captain Mainwaring (643 comments) says:
January 15th, 2016 at 12:16 pm

The presence of adult males in the quota does not present me with a problem . Rest assured adequate security checks will be made to allay you paranoid fears .

The chance of a suicide bomb etc going off in your area would I say be pretty well zilch !

You feel differently ?
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January 15, 2016 12:58pm
SPC

stephieboy, it’s stephiegirl who has reason to be paranoid, the more refugees that are male singles.
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January 15, 2016 1:02pm
MCos

Stars and strips, you seem to have rather a jaundiced view of Muslim refugees. Interestingly I met an Afghan refugee awhile back in her capacity as a podiatrist. She came out here with her family to escape the Soviets when she was five. Hardly a bludger.
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January 15, 2016 1:06pm
notrotsky

@ Dime – I always liked Truemans commentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-k5-99fFdo
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January 15, 2016 1:11pm
big bruv

More stone age behaviour

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/21-year-old-northern-irish-woman-to-stand-trial-for-having-abortion-a6807391.html
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January 15, 2016 1:12pm
SPC

Captain Mainwaring,

I for one do have a view on this, families should be favoured as refugees we accept.

1. we know who we get (and families that come fully formed do not come with the baggage of unchecked relatives)
2. the children are the easiest to assimilate (via schools). This allows focus on the employability and integration of the parents.
3. lowest security risk, as per alienation and offences against local women.
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January 15, 2016 1:12pm
Keeping Stock

@ Dime and Mikenmild – I will be voting for Grant Elliott to win the Sporting Moment of 2015 Award. Not only is Elliott my choice for hitting the six off Dale Steyn to win the match and take New Zealand through to its first Cricket World Cup final, but then for the sportsmanship he showed in helping the devastated Steyn back to his feet at the end of the match. That was a moment we can all be proud of.
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January 15, 2016 1:16pm
alex Masterley

I live close to Eden Park.
I might stroll along to tonights game to watch the game and specifically;
a) Amir,
b) excited Pakistani supporters getting thrown out by security, (it is unlikely they will be drunk!)
c) Munroe to see if lightning will strike twice,
d) Milne.
The last time I saw Milne bowl live was at Pukekura Park. his wicket keeper was almost on the boundary. I suspect the same will be the case at Eden Park.
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January 15, 2016 1:17pm
big bruv

Dime

I agree with you re Steyn. Although I do hope he retires soon, he is a shadow of his once magnificent self.
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January 15, 2016 1:19pm
big bruv

Oh…and I hate the idea that Amir is playing international cricket again
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January 15, 2016 1:23pm
alex Masterley

Bruv,

I agree re Amir. My interest is seeing how quick he is.
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January 15, 2016 1:24pm
Inandout

rangitoto 11.26: When you invite Muslims to your party in Germany, you first lock up your tits. Paradoxically, if they did that to a woman in the Muddle East they would lose their hands first, and then their appendage. Just shows how absolutely basic these ME migrants are; these ungrateful bastards will feel the full wrath of German citizens very soon.
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January 15, 2016 1:24pm
notrotsky

@KS – I was at the game, I was a wreck at the end of it. I agree that six was for me at least the sporting moment of the year.

edit re Amir – we have bowlers as fast but he seems to have some real extra hostility in his bowling, his spell to Watson a few years back was magnificent will be interesting to see if he still has it.
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January 15, 2016 1:24pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@waikatogirl

my favourite Alan Rickman movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448124/
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January 15, 2016 1:27pm
Keeping Stock

@ Big Bruv – given that Amir was 18 when he cheated, and given that he was recruited to cheat by senior Pakistani players who had immense influence within the team, I am prepared to give him one second chance, but one only.
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January 15, 2016 1:28pm
dime

“@ Dime and Mikenmild – I will be voting for Grant Elliott to win the Sporting Moment of 2015 Award. Not only is Elliott my choice for hitting the six off Dale Steyn to win the match and take New Zealand through to its first Cricket World Cup final, but then for the sportsmanship he showed in helping the devastated Steyn back to his feet at the end of the match. That was a moment we can all be proud of.”

for sure.

hope it doesnt go to the final whistle of the RWC or something.

Kane hitting the 6 against aussie was also sweet!
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January 15, 2016 1:31pm
James Stephenson

Oh…and I hate the idea that Amir is playing international cricket again

Everybody deserves a second chance, IMO. I wish all match-fixing and drug cheats did actual jail time as he did.

Oh, and my sporting moment of 2015 would be Gerrard’s sending off after 40-odd seconds.
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January 15, 2016 1:39pm
mikenmild

KS & co
Sure – top sporting moment. I was at Eden Park that day, too – it’ll remain one of my personal top sporting memories. Might even top All Whites vs Bahrain.

The nominated 10 for the Halbergs are:
SKYCITY Breakers — win the Australian National Basketball League Championship on Ekene Ibekwe’s last-second shot (Breakers v Taipans, ANBL final, Auckland)
2.Grant Elliott — smashes a six off the second-to-last ball of the semi-final to put the BLACKCAPS into the Cricket World Cup final (Black Caps v South Africa, Cricket World Cup semi-final, Auckland)
3.Kiwis — defeat Australia in the ANZAC test for the first time in 17 years (New Zealand v Australia, Anzac test, Brisbane)
4.The Highlanders — win their first Super Rugby championship (Highlanders v Hurricanes, Super Rugby final, Wellington)
5.Vodafone Warriors — Nathan Friend’s back-flip sets up miracle try in win over Melbourne Storm (Warriors v Storm, Auckland)
6.Richie McCaw — becomes rugby’s most-capped test player (All Blacks v Australia, Bledisloe Cup, Auckland)
7.Lydia Ko — becomes the youngest major winner (male or female) ever at the 2015 Evian Championship (The Evian Championship, Évian-les-Bains, France)
8.All Blacks — Beauden Barrett’s try clinches the Rugby World Cup for New Zealand (All Blacks v Wallabies, Rugby World Cup final, London)
9.Ross Taylor — scores 290 against Australia, the highest test score ever by a visiting batsman in Australia (Black Caps v Australia, second test, Perth)
10.Football Ferns — Amber Hearn’s goal propels the Football Ferns to a 1-0 win over world powerhouse Brazil (New Zealand v Brazil, Sao Paulo, Brazil)

Elliott definitely the top for me from that list.
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January 15, 2016 2:03pm
mikenmild

BTW, if you agree that Elliott’s hit should be the sporting moment of 2015, vote here:
http://www.halbergawards.co.nz/sporting-moment/
If you don’t agree; just don’t vote.
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January 15, 2016 2:09pm
notrotsky

Thanks for that MM – 2015 was a cracker of a sporting year, I wonder if we can top it ?
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January 15, 2016 2:13pm
Keeping Stock

If there was a moment from the World Cup deserving of a gong it should be either Ma’a Nonu’s brilliant individual try just after half-time, or Carter’s field goal which took the lead out to seven points after Australia had scored twice while Ben Smith was in the bin to get within four.
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January 15, 2016 2:13pm
Stars And Stripes

MCos- hope your feet got better as you will need them to out run the next suicide bomber in your neighbourhood.
Why would anyone want to escape the Soviets anyway, they bought the glory of socialism to Afghanistan which a couple of people hanker for on this blog.
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January 15, 2016 2:13pm
publicwatchdog

In my view Awww C-mon – if The Warehouse were really genuine about ‘social responsibility’ – they would pay their staff the ‘living wage’?

It appears that they do not?

“Warehouse workers still striking after low wage offer

Friday, 4 September 2015, 11:56 am

Press Release: First Union
4 September 2015

Warehouse workers still striking after low wage offer

After strikes at the Warehouse Manukau, Blenheim and New Lynn, workers at the Warehouse Rotorua will walk off the job at 12pm today says FIRST Union organiser Dennis Maga.

“Warehouse workers across the country are rejecting the company’s offer of a 30 and 31 cent wage increase. Several stores have even voted for strike action.”

“Farmers is lifting wages for its workers by 70 to 80 cents.

The Warehouse is fast falling behind other large retail chains,” says Maga.

“While the Warehouse touts its Career Retailer Wage (CRW) the reality is that not all workers receive it. You need to clock 5000 hours or 5 years’ service before qualifying.”

“Warehouse workers are calling on the management team to live up to its own rhetoric. They claim the CRW was inspired by the Living Wage, yet the CRW remains below the living wage level of $19.25,” says Maga.

“Prosperity for the company shouldn’t mean austerity for the workers. The Warehouse posted a comfortable profit last year after recording revenue of over $1 billion. The workers who create the profits deserve a greater share.”

To be fair – I don’t know the subsequent outcome of this industrial action.

Do you?

In fact, in my view, that would be an interesting bit of research?

The number of companies which support ‘corporate social responsibility’ that actually pay their employees the ‘living wage’?

Kind regards

Penny Bright
2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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January 15, 2016 2:13pm
mikenmild

Here’s a good one:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/75882116/leukaemia-survivor-fat-shamed-while-working-out-at-caroline-bay
‘Fat shaming’. It’s a thing. Yelling random insults from a car window justifies a newspaper story. Complete with the obligatory comment from Dr Cat Pausé, Massey University ‘Fat Studies scholar’.
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January 15, 2016 2:17pm
stephieboy

Stars And Stripes, bit lonely for you out there ?
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January 15, 2016 2:18pm
notrotsky

@ P Dim

“To be fair – I don’t know the subsequent outcome of this industrial action.

Do you?

In fact, in my view, that would be an interesting bit of research?”

I think you should phone the union and have chat about the issue.
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January 15, 2016 2:23pm
Stars And Stripes

Stephieboy- sorry that one went over my head, not sure what you are getting at.
Your too subtle for me today.
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January 15, 2016 2:26pm
Liberty

Penny
Still waiting for you to list the 66 New Zealand experts?

Penny that is nice you were asked to be one of 66 New Zealand ‘experts’
Would you like cite the 66 experts?
By any chance would it be the same experts State TV use for their regular Cry of the week sob stories.
Or save our assets, save a Dolphin save a slug etc etc
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January 15, 2016 2:30pm
James Stephenson

If there was a moment from the World Cup deserving of a gong…

Nah, it’s right to remember the try that sealed it, just like us Poms remember Hurst’s “they think it’s all over” goal from ’66 rather than the controversial one that gave England the lead in extra time.

I’d also say there’s something about Smith’s contribution and the way the anticipation builds as Barrett’s wheels take him past the Aussie defence that makes it a special score for me, YMMV.

There’s only that try and Elliott’s six that really pass the “Everyone remembers where they were when…” test. I’d give my vote to the cricket, if only on the basis that other sports ought to get a look in occasionally.
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January 15, 2016 2:33pm
stephieboy

Stars And Stripes , others here are discussing the cricket and sport related matters and you chime in with some dumb comments about suicide bombings and I think about Afghan refugees and the Soviet invasion of the Afghanistan .

All rather weird if you ask me.Maybe time to visit your Doctor ?

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January 15, 2016 2:37pm
thedavincimode

Best NZ sporting moment surely has to be little angry sliming into the top job. What a sport taking that on!
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January 15, 2016 2:54pm
thedavincimode

Any news on the perjury charge for this nutter?
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January 15, 2016 2:57pm
SPC

The New Zealand Government aims to take 95 per cent of our refugees as part of a family. This allows us to keep people in stable units. Unlike Europe, we’re far from the crisis zones and so Immigration NZ goes to the regions to interview and select the refugees to meet our quota.

One of the core aims of that process is to keep families together so that resettlement outcomes are best, as research has shown. It also means that less housing is used so the burden on New Zealand infrastructure is less. In the last two years one-fifth of our intake has consisted of women at risk. It would be a terrible irony if women assaulted in Germany led to New Zealanders not doing our bit for women at risk, simply because some people think all refugees are the same.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/75891632/dont-harm-refugees-by-allying-them-with-their-persecutors
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January 15, 2016 3:02pm
SPC

Who are those people who down tick an information post about our refugee intake policy?

Care to identify yourself? The label racist coward will suffice in the meantime.
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January 15, 2016 3:12pm
SPC

Wonderful a gaggle of racist cowards who don’t like being called on it.
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January 15, 2016 3:21pm
SPC

Stars and Stripes, the English language also has a subtlety in its use and terminology that escapes all of us at times. Such as the difference of (or is that difference between) your and you are.
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January 15, 2016 3:23pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@SPC 3:23

correct answer: difference between
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January 15, 2016 3:31pm
Awww C-mon

So Penny,

since you will not answer the questions I asked but instead about the Tindells but instead comment on another post about the warehouse and their social responsibility I can only assume you do believe only ‘public’ personalities are truly focused on social concerns and ‘corporates’ are only interested in profits.

Edit, re-read and this sounded like I am asking a leading question, nope just trying to understand your view point.
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January 15, 2016 3:33pm
Awww C-mon

Sorry everyone!

Also Penny since you support the living wage as Mayor would you follow Wellingtons lead in implementing it across the council staff and contractors?
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January 15, 2016 3:37pm
DifferentPerspective

So it’s not just Germany where the Police are being directly instructed not to report on rapes and sexual assaults carried out by recent migrants (or as they should be called ‘welfare invaders’).

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/its-not-only-germany-that-covers-up-mass-sex-attacks-by-migrant-men-swedens-record-is-shameful/

If bastions of democracy and freedom from corruption like Sweden and Germany have taken to massive orchestrated cover-ups of the ‘inconvenient truth’ about refugees – then we clearly have little chance of getting any truthful information about the impacts of NZ’s cohort of Syrian refugees from the police!

It’s already tough to have any trust in the NZ Police given how shot their credibility is after the staggering incompetence and dishonesty shown through turnover after turnover of high profile convictions (Thomas, Bain, Pora etc), the rape culture within the force and lately their dishonesty about their ‘speed kills’ approach to road policing not owning that their policing approach is causing a rising road toll (which has to be true if what they told us was true before that in previous years they’d caused the road toll drop!).

You just know that when the migrant-related crime wave starts – there’ll be the same sort of suppression of the facts that seems to be so widespread in Northern European countries.

It was only three months after their arrival that Syrian and North African refugees started creating havoc in Europe – by that count we should start seeing a spike in sexual assault cases in Wellington by about early June in Wellington with the first refugees arriving at the end of February in the capital. If you live near state houses (where they’ll be put up) and you are a female – best if you start covering up and don’t go out without a male companion or two with you!
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January 15, 2016 3:37pm
Jack5

Ahoy SPC (3.12 post), I haven’t downticked you, but it’s a bit strong calling those who downticked your posts racist cowards.

Maybe they just don’t like you. And since when was Islam a race any way?

And if the downtickers oppose Muslim immigration, so what? I would rather not have more Muslims admitted to NZ. I don’t mind if we give aid to these refugees in their own or neighbouring countries, but I’d rather they weren’t coming here.

However, I won’t be rude to any who cross my path in NZ.

In the meantime, SPC, I think you shouldn’t try to muzzle free speech or expressions of opinion.

Feel free to downtick this post as much as you like Kiwibloggers. That’s freedom of speech and opinion.
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January 15, 2016 3:41pm
Stars And Stripes

Stephieboy- See MCos 1.06pm and you will see what my post relates too.

If I’m off to the doctor maybe you need to go to the optometrist for an eye test.
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January 15, 2016 3:44pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@SPC

I received a downtick for my grammatically correct answer to your sentence.

If I’m really lucky I might get 2 downticks for this comment……. I’ll have such fun tonight adding up my scores.

(p.s. I up ticked your article clip… The article was an interesting read)
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January 15, 2016 3:46pm
mikenmild

I downticked your last comment, Maggy – just cos I could.
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January 15, 2016 3:55pm
Maggy Wassilieff

And I upticked yours… coz if it doesn’t work out between Johnboy and me, I’m keeping my options open.
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January 15, 2016 4:00pm
Stars And Stripes

SPC – I did not downtick you but once you started calling people racists I felt thoroughly left out so I had to do it after this just to be included in the club.
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January 15, 2016 4:00pm
mikenmild

I think I might have to go back through this GD thread assigning random ticks.
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