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stephieboy

TIME TO REMEMBER

20 Years Since the Srebrenica Massacre

ALAN TAYLOR JUL 9, 2015 29 PHOTOS IN FOCUS
“Saturday will mark the passage of two decades since the mass killing of more than 8,000 Muslim men and boys by Bosnian Serb forces in the town of Srebrenica during the Bosnian War. On July 11, 1995, towards the end of the war, Bosnian Serb soldiers swept into a U.N.-designated “safe haven,” taking military-age men, boys, and some elderly men. Over the days that followed, they executed them and dumped their bodies into pits in the surrounding forests. The executions were well-planned, and the Serb army made considerable effort to disguise its activities. While the killings took place over just a few days, the process of finding the bodies took years, and the task of identifying and burying them properly continues to this day—more than 1,000 are still listed as missing. International tribunals have made a number of genocide convictions connected to the Srebrenica killings, and several trials and appeals are ongoing. On Wednesday, Russia vetoed a U.N. resolution that would have condemned the massacre as a “crime of genocide,” claiming the resolution singled out Serbs unfairly, and “would lead to greater tension in the region.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2015/07/20-years-since-the-srebrenica-massacre/398135/
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December 9, 2015 12:31pm
EAD

What the hell?

Leading French Jewish Rabbis unite to urge French citizens not to vote for Front National. Weren’t these the same Rabbis only a last week complaining that they “saw no future for Jews in Europe”, yet they urge all Jews in France to turn their back on the one Party that may put a halt to it?

Is this perhaps the ultimate example of cognitive dissonance and duplicity?

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12/08/french-jews-urged-vote-front-national-despite-rise-anti-semitic-islamism/#comment-2400352706

“Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened” – Winston Churchill
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December 9, 2015 12:41pm
kowtow

DTK

Excellent , top of the class.

The War of the Unknown Warriors.

http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/UnknWarr.html
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December 9, 2015 12:45pm
kowtow

Muslim infighting in America. Obama upsets his co religionists.

” U.S. President Barack Obama’s request to American Muslims that they must help “root out” extremists in their midst received an angry response inside mosques in a part of California where four men were recently arrested for conspiring to aid Islamist militants.”

http://news.yahoo.com/americas-muslims-object-obamas-push-more-self-surveillance-212033281.html
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December 9, 2015 12:49pm
Manolo

Possible Republican presidential candidates in 2016.
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20151203-20151208/type/day
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December 9, 2015 12:55pm
Manolo

@kowtow: The number of people who believe Obama is a Muslim grows by the day.
Raised in Islam, the Messiah appears not to have forgotten his faith, although he hides it well.
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December 9, 2015 12:57pm
kowtow

Capt Mainwarring.

Here’s another big news story the Msm wants us to not hear.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12037950/First-Denmark-now-France-Europes-dominoes-are-falling-one-by-one.html

And as an aside ,on the DT , the top rating comment on their anti Trump article has been deleted. All the comment did was point out the negative effects of Muslim immigration in Britain. Free speech is dead, in the face of Islamic immigration.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12039227/Forget-Muslim-terrorists-Donald-Trump-is-the-real-danger-to-America.html
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December 9, 2015 1:08pm
Ross12

So Smith , CEO of Corrections, says the Serco contract will be extended beyond March 2016. Is the timing of the announcement a co-incidence? When does Judith Collins officially take over the portfolio ?
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December 9, 2015 1:13pm
cha

What the hell do war fighters know compared to the draft dodger Trump?.
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“Anything that bolsters ISIL’s narrative and pits the United States against the Muslim faith is certainly not only contrary to our values but contrary to our national security,” Cook told a news briefing, using an acronym for Islamic State.

http://in.reuters.com/article/usa-election-trump-pentagon-idINKBN0TR2HK20151208
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December 9, 2015 1:16pm
Mike

Serco is a private company that has a strong incentive to deliver the best service possible. I have complete faith that Serco was providing an upstanding service. This is politics.
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December 9, 2015 1:20pm
cha

heh

The Republican Party, said Jeb Bush adviser Ana Navarro, is stuck between “a rock and a jerk” less than eight weeks before the first primary-season votes are cast in Iowa.

Carly’s getting shitty too –

“Maybe you should quit focusing on Donald Trump so much,” she told reporters.

http://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/Trump-s-Muslim-ban-idea-pushes-GOP-toward-chaos-6684186.php
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December 9, 2015 1:21pm
ciaron

A teenage Dimes dream car!

Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 1

Who’s the sad sack that downticked this?
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December 9, 2015 1:22pm
kowtow

student pilot!

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/man-held-at-cork-airport-after-distress-due-to-no-mecca-flights-1.2459179
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December 9, 2015 1:26pm
alloytoo

@ Griff

Not if you examine that statement from the point of the audience for it.
Israelites firmly believed god gave them Israel and everything in it .
Ceaser had no right to take from gods gift to the Israelites.
The actual meaning in context is the opposite of that maintained by Christendom.

Under Caesar the Jews had both their property and their religion. They, like the rest of the empire, just had to pay their taxes and enjoy the benefits of Pax Romana. Likewise when the Christian bible was assembled a few hundred years later the story is retained in multiple Gospels precisely to reinforce the separation of church and state.

@ Stephieboy

Separation of church and state.

This is the fundamental difference between Christianity and Islam, insofar as western civilization is concerned.

That actual separation was not realised until more recent times first in the US 1788 and later in Britain and Europe . It owed much to the thinking of Enlightenment philosophers and the corresponding decline of religious influence and the advance of secularism.

And yet, like most of our revered western freedoms, it originates in Greece and Rome and can well be said to have survived the worst of Christianity.
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December 9, 2015 1:27pm
Griff

You do exactly the same thing as them with climate change .
You have the exactly the same mindset as them
Paul Homewood’s blog vrs the UK met and uk environmental agency .

River levels exceeded all known levels by significant margins.
In the uk this means rainfall above any known to have have happened in the past five hundred odd years .
The rain gauge they quote as Seathwaite is at Seathwaite Farm campsite as far as i can ascertain it is only around 600 feet .
It is not the Seathwaite fell gauge Up in the hills and the record for Seathwaite Farm goes back to around 1850
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December 9, 2015 1:28pm
stephieboy

That Time Donald Trump Lied About Dodging Vietnam Draft (VIDEO)

“…Trump’s incendiary criticism of McCain is that much more repugnant because he received 5 deferments during the 1960’s which enabled him to avoid being drafted into the Vietnam War. And if that wasn’t enough, “The Donald” lied about why he managed to avoid the draft back in 2011, and it was captured on video, seen below.

In 2011, Trump was thinking about running for president in 2012. He ultimately did not run but he did get asked some tough questions by a couple of news anchors from New York’s local Fox affiliate during a televised interview. One of the newscasters asked Trump how he managed to avoid the Vietnam draft.

Here was Trump’s response, which later was deemed to be a heaping pile of bullshit, once the documents detailing his deferments were released to The Smoking Gun:

“I actually got lucky because I had a very high draft number. I’ll never forget, that was an amazing period of time in my life. I was going to the Wharton School of Finance, and I was watching as they did the draft numbers and I got a very, very high number and those numbers never got up to.”

The Smoking Gun obtained the official Selective Service records detailing Trump’s deferments. You can view those documents here.
As the documents reveal, Trump received 4 student deferments while he attended college, and later in 1968, a medical deferment upon his graduation from college.

Here’s more proof that Trump was lying through his hideous hair, as detailed by Nate Thayer: Draft numbers were not even used until December, 1969, a full year after he received his final deferment, the medical one in September 1968. To put it charitably, Trump was “misremembering” when he claimed that he would “never forget” watching “as they did the draft numbers” in 1968. If that was actually the case, we’re sure he’d remember his soiled britches. His use of the word “lucky” is very revealing – He didn’t want to serve in Vietnam…”

http://reverbpress.com/politics/time-hypocrite-slimebag-donald-trump-lied-dodging-vietnam-draft-video/
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December 9, 2015 1:29pm
stephieboy

alloytoo, the facts remain the both with Byzantium and the Western Medieval Europe the Church and state were indivisible !
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December 9, 2015 1:32pm
Manolo

Does anybody remember when communist Russel Norman was predicting the barrel of oil to reach USD 200?
Where is the Luddite now? Ah, he is the boss of eco-terrorists Greenpeace and continues to lie without shame.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/08/3-reasons-why-oil-prices-will-stay-at-40.html

The strategist predicts that oil prices will remain at around $40 a barrel for this year and could slip to $30 a barrel next year as three fundamental drivers behind the market take hold.
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December 9, 2015 1:53pm
SPC

Our spooks suspect that (presumably Moslem) women travelling to Iraq and Syria are doing so to marry jihadists and live in IS (more likely charity workers or refugees visiting relatives to pick up husbands to bring back).

Given the jihadist bride type normally go to Turkey and cross the border into Syria, I think we can regard this “intelligence” as dubious in worth.
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December 9, 2015 2:05pm
Fletch

British soldier Colonel Richard Kemp (the commander of British forces in Afghanistan who was also present in Gaza in 2014, and has served in Iraq), speaks out about the Israeli Army, detailing how they are the most moral army in the world.

Based on my experience, and on my observations, the Israel Defense Force (the IDF) does more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare.

The IDF took extraordinary measures to give Gazan civilians notice of targetted areas. dropping millions of leaflets, broadcasting radio messages, sending texts, and making tens of thousands of phone calls. Let me repeat that: the Israelis called Gazans on their cellphones and told them to leave their residences and move to safety. NEVER in the history of warfare has an army phoned its enemy and told them where they’re going to drop their bombs.

Hamas, on the other hand, committed war crimes as official government policy. Hamas deliberately position its military assets among the civilian population, hiding weapons in schools and hospitals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN1MkAGuVyY
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December 9, 2015 2:17pm
Manolo

A plant, a mole, an infiltrator, an operative:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/08/terror-bride-investigators-looking-into-possibility-tashfeen-malik-was/?intcmp=hpbt1

Officials investigating the San Bernardino, Calif. terror attack are looking very strongly into the possibility that Tashfeen Mailk, the wife accused in the shootings, was “an operative”.
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December 9, 2015 3:06pm
stephieboy

Manolo, there you go what Fox and you are so expert at – possibilities ., maybes , might bes etc, etc !
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December 9, 2015 3:17pm
stephieboy

Dick Cheney: Donald Trump’s Anti-Muslim Plan ‘Goes Against Everything We Stand For’

“Religious freedom has been a very important part of our history and where we came from.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dick-cheney-donald-trump-muslims_5666345ae4b079b2818fe17c
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December 9, 2015 3:23pm
Manolo

No, stephieboy. It is the FBI which is investigating the couple of Muslim terrorists.
Or, do you believe they were two Lutherans or Mormons that went berserk?
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December 9, 2015 3:43pm
cha

The Donald locks up the stormer vote.

Get all of these monkeys the hell out of our country – now!

Heil Donald Trump – THE ULTIMATE SAVIOR.

http://www.donotlink.com/hjv3
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December 9, 2015 3:46pm
alloytoo

stephieboy (8,646 comments) says:
December 9th, 2015 at 1:32 pm
alloytoo, the facts remain the both with Byzantium and the Western Medieval Europe the Church and state were indivisible !

As I said, the freedoms and rights we enjoy can very much be said to have “survived” Christianity.
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December 9, 2015 4:00pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Record breaking rainfall in England in the weekend measured at Honister Pass.

It lies well above Seathwaite Farm. The raingauge at Honister has only been operative since 1970. It usually records above Seathwaite Farm; but not always.
We have no accurate measurements of rainfall on this mountainous land in the 1890s when extreme rainfall also struck Cumbria.

This paper on the 2009 storm gives details of the raingauges.

http://nora.nerc.ac.uk/12487/1/BHS_3rd_Int_Symp_Stewart_et_al.pdf
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December 9, 2015 4:00pm
Manolo

The (il)liberal Washington Post on Trump:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/along-with-trumps-rhetoric-the-stakes-for-2016-have-risen-dramatically/2015/12/08/43e64592-9dd8-11e5-a3c5-c77f2cc5a43c_story.html

Donald Trump continues to go where no recent candidate for president has gone before, plunging the Republican Party — and the nation — into another round in the tumultuous debate about immigration, national identity, terrorism and the limits of tolerance.
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December 9, 2015 4:19pm
Griff

http://nora.nerc.ac.uk/12487/1/BHS_3rd_Int_Symp_Stewart_et_al.pdf
Extreme event analysis
Following the revised FORGEX analysis at the two raingauge
sites, the new DDF model was fitted to allow the assessment
of the return period of the rainfall depths observed during the
November 2009 event. Maximum rainfall depths for durations
from 1 hour to 4 days were abstracted from the hourly and
daily rainfall data over the period from 18
th to 21st November 2009. The results for the two gauge sites are shown
Honister Pass
2009 24hr 301.4mm old return method period 1234years new return period 396years Actual rain fall 2015 341.4mm

shit oh dear whats that?
Around a 1000 odd year rainfall event so soon after a 396year event even by the revised method according to your quoted paper .
And yet you are quoting homeward saying its not extraordinary.
Wake up Maggy you are making an arse of your self.
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December 9, 2015 4:31pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

The warmer air = more rainfall makes sense, but sadly for Mr Griff the lower troposphere hasn’t been warming for nearly 20 years:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/
And no trend in global hurricanes (that you would expect with warmer air and water temps)
http://policlimate.com/tropical/global_major_freq.png

Given (eg) 30000 weather stations around the world, you would expect to on average have a one in a 100 year weather event recorded somewhere in the world every day. (though will obviously tend to occur in temporal and spatial clusters due to spatial and temporal autocorrelation between weather stations)
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December 9, 2015 5:17pm
Michael

Talking about cars, shouted myself one of these for my 80th birthday. Same colour, same alloys.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=bmw+4+series+coupe+estoril+blue&view=detailv2&&id=5B1381871E2ED6A958E396761788AEACBBED172F&selectedIndex=1&ccid=Ui91ydZu&simid=6080276
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December 9, 2015 5:21pm
Reid

Exclusive Interview: Nouri al Maliki on US-Turkish Involvement in Iraq

Nahed Al Husaini VT Damascus Bureau (Exclusive interview with former Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki

Veterans Today Damascus Bureau Chief, Nahed al Husaini interviewed Nouri al Maliki Sunday. These are key excerpts from a ranging two hour discussion. Maliki is known to be critical of US actions in Iraq, certainly has the guts to stand up to Turkey and is likely to be Iraq’s next prime minister…

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/12/08/exclusive-interview-nouri-al-maliki-on-us-involvement-in-iraq/

For those who don’t know, Maliki was supposed to be the West’s great white hope in Iraq which is why they installed him but sadly for the murderous neocon bastards, instead of siding with the Shites which was the evil neocon plan, he turned round and shafted them in favour of the Shia. Thus giving Iran an in into Iraq. This is one reason why the murderous neocon bastards are so terribly obdurate and unshifting in their religious fervour to oust Assad, because Assad represents the anti-murderous neocon bastard link to an Iran-Syria-Iraq axis, which of course would completely shatter the diabolical murderous bastard neocon plan to setup a pipeline to Europe that would cut out Russia from supplying gas to Europe, thus seriously undermining Russia’s economy.

It ain’t rocket science folks. Unless of course you’re a sheeple who follows and believes ANY of the Western MSM presstitute bollocks. Let’s hope you’re not.

More details here, if you’re interested.

https://medium.com/dan-sanchez/seize-the-chaos-d065f507f0cc

https://medium.com/dan-sanchez/clean-break-to-dirty-wars-d5ebc5fda9f9#.gp2dqtsdb
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December 9, 2015 5:26pm
RF

oldpark. 8.26am. The reason why labour and the greens are hugging deported criminals is because decent folk do not vote for the left. By looking after the criminals the looney left who are desperate for votes hope that they will be remembered come election time. Think back to Helen Clark and the Tampa boat people. Many of them voted labour to thank her for letting them stay here. Just like the student loans when they threw money at them.
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December 9, 2015 5:32pm
fernglas

Michael
I too shouted myself a flash car for my 80th birthday; in my case a Bugatti Veyron. Gives me 30 years to pay off the lay-by.
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December 9, 2015 5:33pm
Johnboy

“Wake up Maggy you are making an arse of your self.”

And I hope. A very well-rounded and feminine arse ( If I may be so forward to mention Maggy! 🙂 )

Didn’t Griff Rhys Jones cover Honister Pass during his wandering around the Dale’s or somewhere Griff? 🙂
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December 9, 2015 5:34pm
nasska

Reid

Can you outline why the West should not seriously undermine Russia’s economy?

What possible advantage would accrue from having a prosperous Russia flexing its muscles on the world stage?
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December 9, 2015 5:36pm
Griff

And no trend in global hurricanes (that you would expect with warmer air and water temps)
Sorry is your ignorance is on display again?
No one is suggesting more storms.
They are suggesting stronger storms.
Guss what ?

A record 22 hurricanes or typhoons have reached Category 4 or 5 strength in the Northern Hemisphere this year.

Hurricane Joaquin on Oct. 3 when it became a Category 4 for the second time. Joaquin is the only Atlantic storm to reach Category 4 status this season. (NASA)

The record was broken on Oct. 17 when Koppu became the nineteenth storm to reach this intensity prior to slamming into the Philippines as a super typhoon. Since then, Super Typhoon Champi, Hurricane Olaf and Hurricane Patricia added to the total.

The old record for the Northern Hemisphere was 18 set in 2004, according to Dr. Phil Klotzbach of Colorado State University and blogger for wunderground.com. For perspective, an average of 12.5 Category 4 or 5 storms have been recorded during the 1990-2014 period,

http://www.weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/record-most-category-4-or-5-hurricanes-typhoons

Have a look at the actual temperature data from thermostats rather than quote the guesses derived from microwave brightness .
It makes you look stupid

And no Woy god did it Spencer is not a good reference and his satellite temperatures are not even accurate
Do you know the difference between version 5 and the new one version 6? of UHA?
;lol:
Accurate my arse we have actual thermometers on the land that are far more accurate than Woy Spencers fuckup

Oh and since you are here babbling your usual shit urban
Do understand that giving the average sea level rise for the last century dose not reveal the fact that it has almost trebled over the last two decades.
3.4 mm a year is one hell of a lot more than the 1.2 average over the last hundred is in not
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December 9, 2015 5:40pm
Johnboy

What possible advantage would accrue from having a prosperous Russia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beluga_caviar

We could get to eat it twice a week instead of once at Chateau Johnboy nasska. 🙂
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December 9, 2015 5:48pm
Johnboy

“Oh and since you are here babbling your usual shit urban
Do understand that giving the average sea level rise for the last century dose not reveal the fact that it has almost trebled over the last two decades.
3.4 mm a year is one hell of a lot more than the 1.2 average over the last hundred is in not”

Quite so Griff. Hard to believe that during the last ice age the Frogs and the Poms could have walked across the channel!

The fucking global warming made the pricks spend billions to dig a fucking chunnel!

Fuckwits eh! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 5:54pm
Reid

Can you outline why the West should not seriously undermine Russia’s economy?

nasska, can you outline why Russia should not seriously undermine the US economy?

And then pray explain why, if Russia did that, the West should not retaliate, as you seem to expect Russia not to do?

Notice of course, that Russia is NOT doing that, whereas the West IS. Which makes the West a good guy, or a bad guy?

When I say “West” I mean of course, the murderous neocon bastards who control us, not us.

Same principle as I use when I critique poor widdle Iswael.

And if you don’t know who [some of] the murderous neocon bastards are, this article touches on some of them.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/12/08/putins-next-move-on-the-grand-chessboard/
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December 9, 2015 5:55pm
nasska

….”Notice of course, that Russia is NOT doing that”….

Yes Reid. I suggest although that it is lack of opportunity rather than lack of intent & we’re not discussing how nice the world would be if we all treated each other fairly. Put it another way….

….why should the ‘West” give them an even break?
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December 9, 2015 6:01pm
Griff

nasska, can you outline why Russia should not seriously undermine the US economy?

Because Russia can not do anything about the usa economy.
Russia’s own economy has tanked badly all by itself. Russia is in a recession .
It relies on oil and gas for most of its exports .
The USA is not responsible for the decline it the price of these commodity’s in fact it would rather prices went up to make the massive investment in fracking for gas pay.
http://ieconomics.com/united-states-vs-russia
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December 9, 2015 6:09pm
Johnboy

You could almost suspect that the US was fracking to fuck Russia and the towelheads…….Nah Obummers not that smart really! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 6:12pm
Griff

Something like that JB
More they have found away to unink from the middle east oil supplies and the political cocksucking that entailed.

The towel heads have dropped the price of oil to keep the world buying their product for as long a possible .
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December 9, 2015 6:16pm
Reid

Yes Reid. I suggest although that it is lack of opportunity rather than lack of intent & we’re not discussing how nice the world would be if we all treated each other fairly.

nasska how little you know.

The West is in decline. Its been corrupting its own populations through media, the legal system, the education system and the democratic system. It’s been launching regime-change ops on non-Western countries for hundreds of years all of which install brutal dictators who are installed for one reason only: to allow Western corporations to rape and pillage the natural resources of those countries and who put those countries into debt for infrastructure projects which the citizens of those countries are forced to pay for through their taxes levied by the brutal dictators and when they’re finished paying for them they send in the economic hitmen to privatise said infrastructure and sell it to the very corporations who received the natural resources for nothing more than pennies in the dollar.

If you don’t know this is how it is you know nothing my friend.

Meanwhile, Russia and China are the future. Moscow and Shanghai are the new London and NY of the financial world. As the Chinese middle class grows and becomes the new consumers they will far and away eclipse the spending of the entire Western world, while we are left to wither on the vine, shells of our former selves, courtesy of said corruption wrought in all abovementioned institutions and more.

This is why our media is worthless braying bullshit. This is why our legal system is less interested in justice and more in name suppression. This is why etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

Sadly, you and most other people haven’t yet woken up to this. Personally, I think you’re all clinging to how you want reality to be rather than facing what it actually is.

I’ve never had that problem and I don’t really know precisely why, I just know I don’t have that problem.

It’s generally therefore a waste of time discussing things like this with people like you who won’t, can’t and don’t wish to open their eyes and face what’s coming down the pipe, indeed has been coming down for hundreds, yes hundreds, of years.

The only reason I do so is because there’s always hope that someone, sometime, might get that a-ha moment, and open their eyes.

….why should the ‘West” give them an even break?

Because they’re not attacking us nasska, we’ve been attacking them, and they’re responding accordingly, and with a lot more measured approach than we’ve ever used.
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December 9, 2015 6:19pm
nasska

Fracking has given the USA the chance to abandon the ME & leave the shitheads to get on with their tribal wars & religious rubbish JB.

Only the dithering of the weakest US administration yet known led by the most effete president who has ever buggered a prosperous country has stopped them.
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December 9, 2015 6:22pm
Griff

Reid look at what has happened in Russia without those rose tinted glasses on
it has gone down the gurgla
Putin is playing warmonger to distract his people from the realty of a contracting economy.
They are heading into the third world.
China is going well
The major problem for china is keeping its control over the population
The hierarchy of wants
In time the rising middle class will want more of the intangibles we in the west have like freedom and democracy after the basic wants of food ,shelter, a car and a fridge are met .
This is the Chinese governments biggest fear not the west but there own people waking up.
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December 9, 2015 6:28pm
Johnboy

“Meanwhile, Russia and China are the future. ”

That’s a worry Reid. I can handle the caviar but egg fly lice is shit! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 6:32pm
Reid

None of that is true about Russia Griff.

You’re correct though that China’s biggest issue is keeping its middle class happy since if they’re not they risk the one-party system.

Which is why they’re currently taking measures to grow it so that consumer spending from it replaces that which they’ve lost from the West’s decline since 2008.

So what?
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December 9, 2015 6:37pm
nasska

Reid

I accept some of what you state. Corporate America stinks but the smell is not that much different from the total corruption of the Russian system nor the state control of China.

Money is power & power corrupts…..it was true in the days of Rome & nothing has changed.
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December 9, 2015 6:37pm
Kimbo

@ johnboy

…I can handle the caviar but egg fly lice is shit! 🙂

Then try the duck.
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December 9, 2015 6:37pm
SPC

Reid, a lot of lefties had the same analysis a few decades ago – capitalism on the point of collapse and Soviet/Chinese communism being the future.

Your own view just fits your religion sourced apocolyptic mind-set.

However it is a fact that empires rise and fall, and the Anglo-American regime is no different. Of more import is whether the global order they built lasts, to what extent and in what context/areas.
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December 9, 2015 6:38pm
Johnboy

“Money is power & power corrupts”

And here was stupid little Johnboy assuming that Little Andy wanted control of the treasury benches to advance the cause of the common man nasska!!

I hate you for destroying all my illusions! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 6:43pm
Dave_1924

I wish this guy would own his shit and just shut up …

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11558525

Blessies family doesn’t need this one little bit
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December 9, 2015 6:44pm
Reid

Told you before SPC, don’t try to guess why I think what I think.

How do you reconcile the fact my political position is a conservative hawk as illustrated by all my posts yet you have that above?

Also, you have no idea what I believe on the religious front. No idea.

Like I said, don’t try to understand me, you don’t know me, you won’t get the answer by using your standard political paradigms, it just won’t work, because I’m not in any of them, which confuses the hell out of people who live in them.
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December 9, 2015 6:45pm
Johnboy

154…not looking like a big night tonight…anyone got a hot topic? 🙂
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December 9, 2015 6:46pm
nasska

….”I hate you for destroying all my illusions!”….

Wait until we get started on the Tooth Fairy, Leprechauns & Santa Claus! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 6:47pm
Johnboy

Keep the fucker’s guessing Reid.

That’s the way to really piss them off! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 6:48pm
Johnboy

I hope you don’t have an expose of Shaun the Sheep nasska.

He was my only childhood friend you know.
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December 9, 2015 6:50pm
SPC

Reid, well it is the pattern with conservative hawks to spread paranoia about a decline in relative power (of the UK in Europe/USA in the world) – usually with the intent of some “right wing” revivalism as per Reagan 1980.

Christian revival in the domestic society and a hard-line foreign policy can of course contribute to a global struggle of civilisation meme (this time not the evil empire of the Kremlin but a more old German focus on ZOG or Islamists or both?)
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December 9, 2015 6:53pm
Griff

Meh
Reid try actual facts not Putins propaganda .
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russias-economy-what-do-the-numbers-tell-us-14300
http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21679701-popular-president-muffles-his-anti-western-rhetoric-russias-economy-shrinks-vladimir-putin
Russia is heading to shit in the fast lane .
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December 9, 2015 6:55pm
Andrei

154…not looking like a big night tonight…anyone got a hot topic?

Religion, Climate change, holocaust denial – take your pick Johnboy

In the meantime to get things moving Ramzan Kadyrov dancing Lezginka – if Shawn Herles pops in this should get him fizzing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vOOZ_thTnY
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December 9, 2015 6:56pm
Johnboy

I’ve always preferred this Andrei:

But tell me as a Russian chap. Why do losers always feel the need to wear such big hats? 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfvkmJ7AR0
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December 9, 2015 7:04pm
Griff

“Have you found Jesus?” “Damnit, did you guys lose him again? Seriously, start using bigger nails.”

A man is leaving church when he sees an altar boy get hit by a car. The man rushes over and asks the dying boy, “Would you like me to get the priest?” To which the altar boy responds, “How can you think about sex at a time like this?”

A Catholic priest in Auckland had tickets to the shield game against the moloos last year. Unfortunately, he also was scheduled for confession.

He notices a very devout looking parishoner praying and decides to ask the man to cover confession for him. The parishoner replies, “Father, I’m not qualified to do that.” To which the priest says, “I have a book in the confessional with all sins and the correct penance for it so I don’t make any mistakes.”

The man reluctantly agrees.

Father races to Mt Eden and the man takes his seat in the confessional.

A man enters and says, “forgive me father, for I have sinned. I have had sex with young boys.”

“I see,” he says, and opens the book to find the correct penance for anal sex with young boys, but to his dismay it wasn’t listed. He opens the door and sees an altar boy lighting candles. He asks, “alter boy, what does Father give for anal sex with young boys?”

The alter boy replies, “he usually gives us a cream bun and a coke.”
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December 9, 2015 7:08pm
Andrei

Why do losers always feel the need to wear such big hats?

I don’t know the answer to that Johnboy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqLk-HVStQg
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December 9, 2015 7:08pm
nasska

Your comeback is improving Andrei. 🙂
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December 9, 2015 7:11pm
nasska

The Quran is 100% accurate but only when you throw it at very close range.
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December 9, 2015 7:14pm
Reid

That’s the way to really piss them off!

Of course I don’t do it on purpose. It’s just that’s the way it normally works out. Not that I want that, of course.

Tee hee.
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December 9, 2015 7:14pm
Johnboy

I asked about loser’s Andrei the Pom’s are winners.

They still have a royal family that the whole world admires as opposed to the Russki’s who shot theirs, tossed them down a well and replaced them with shit like Lenin, Stalin and now Putin! 🙂

Speaking of that is it mandatory for Russki shit’s names to end in “in” cause it makes them feel they’ll never be “out” 🙂
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December 9, 2015 7:22pm
Andrei

Poll of the day: Was it sexist to suggest girls would not draw penises?
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December 9, 2015 7:23pm
Andrei

They still have a royal family that the whole world admires

With an heir to throne who expressed the desire to be a tampon
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December 9, 2015 7:25pm
Viking2

Some good futurist reading here.

It takes a glass half empty approach to the amazing growth and power of robots and other technology, and in particular whether job creation in ‘new’ areas will be able to keep up with the creative destruction of all sorts of existing jobs. Various studies suggest up to half of all the existing types of jobs will be destroyed by new technology.

The key question is whether the new jobs as yoga instructors and all the other irreplaceable services jobs are able to replace the destroyed ones fast enough.

http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/79028/bernards-top-10-rise-and-rise-robots-will-jobs-be-created-faster-theyre-destroyed-time

The robots are coming – Martin Ford’s book ‘The Rise of the Robots: Technology and the threat of a jobless future” won the the FT’s Book of the Year award this year.
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December 9, 2015 7:27pm
Johnboy

He’s still twelve inches taller than Putin the Dwarf Andrei! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 7:27pm
SPC

World boxing is a hoot.

Apparently in signing a contract that allowed the champ a rematch if he lost, the new champ is in breach of one of the belts ranking system – whereby the No 1 ranked fighter must get the first fight and in breach of this Fury loses the title.

Why the former champ, once defeated, did not then become the new number 1 ranked fighter for that belt is unexplained.
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December 9, 2015 7:28pm
Johnboy

There is of course a rumour that he has another 12 inches hidden about him somewhere! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 7:28pm
Johnboy

Shit 176….keep it up folks! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 7:29pm
nasska

….”The key question is whether the new jobs as yoga instructors and all the other irreplaceable services jobs are able to replace the destroyed ones fast enough.”….

The question I have never seen answered is who exactly is going to buy the stuff & services that robots produce if three quarters of the world is made unemployed by the technology.
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December 9, 2015 7:32pm
Johnboy

I was hoping to get a robot that could take care of my wife’s demands V2….Nothing on the net that can go 23/24, blind and no sense of shame! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 7:32pm
Andrei

Too subtle? We will see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKgpGwlEP74
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December 9, 2015 7:34pm
SPC

Napoleon’s response to finding out that most men on the French mainland were taller than him, was to engage in constant war and place the tallest men in the front ranks – reducing the difference between his own height and those who survived these battles.
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December 9, 2015 7:37pm
Johnboy

The Imperial Guards SPC! 🙂

Broke and ran at Waterloo! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 7:39pm
Viking2

Kuala Lumpur International Airport is appealing for the owner of three abandoned Boeing 747s to come forward and collect their planes.

Malaysia Airports, which manages KLIA, posted the unusual lost and found notice in the classified section of Malaysian newspapers The Star and Sin Chew Daily on Monday.

“If you fail to collect the aircraft within 14 days of the date of this notice, we reserve the right to sell or otherwise dispose of the aircraft,” the notice says.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/74896845/Malaysia-seeks-owner-of-three-Boeing-747s-abandoned-at-the-airport

somethings just make ya laugh.
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December 9, 2015 7:44pm
Captain Mainwaring

WHAT? A PENNY-FREE DAY?
Is she in jail, or has she disappeared up Gabby’s arse?
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December 9, 2015 7:54pm
Griff

Taoism: Shit happens. Catholicism: If shit happens, you deserve it. Protestantism: Let shit happen to someone else. Scientology: Crazy shit Hinduism: This shit has happened before. Islam: If shit happens, it is the will of Allah. Buddhism: If shit happens, it isn’t really shit. Judaism: Why does this shit always happen to us? Athiesm: No Shit.
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December 9, 2015 7:56pm
Johnboy

I wonder if you can supersize it like a Macca’s? 🙂

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/74912234/groundbreaking-penis-transplants-for-us-veterans
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December 9, 2015 7:58pm
Johnboy

We’re struggling here…. 186! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 7:59pm
Johnboy

If a tiny, stunted, micro Totara (that no one bothered to look at) fell over in the forest would anybody give a shit? 🙂

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/74929488/native-affairs-maori-tv-current-affairs-show-cut-in-half
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December 9, 2015 8:07pm
AgentBallSack

Johnboy, Mikenmild tells me you own a farm in Wainuiomata, have sheep sex dolls and wont concede the Bellevue is the best drinking establishment in the Hutt. What say you?
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December 9, 2015 8:09pm
stigie

Captain:

She’s sorting her shit out so she can tell some more lies to the court on the 15th…?
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December 9, 2015 8:10pm
Johnboy

It used to be till the new owners got rid of the sheep pens and dog kennels Bollocks old chap! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 8:14pm
AgentBallSack

stigie, pity she can’t copy and paste it. The judge can downote her too.
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December 9, 2015 8:14pm
AgentBallSack

Don’t tell me you drink at the Fitz. Some strange people there!
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December 9, 2015 8:20pm
Kimbo

@ Johnboy

If a tiny, stunted, micro Totara (that no one bothered to look at) fell over in the forest would anybody give a shit? 🙂

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/74929488/native-affairs-maori-tv-current-affairs-show-cut-in-half

Mihingarangi Forbes did some good stuff on crooked Kohanga Reo National Trust spending…then jumped ship when Maori TV editors started exercising too much editorial control over her stories:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/70034241/Mihingarangi-Forbes-back-in-control-in-her-new-role

So it probably deserved culling. If only the same would happen to ~~Red~~ National Radio.
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December 9, 2015 8:26pm
nasska

Wainuiomata does throw up some strange phenomena at times Ballsack.

For instance, were you aware that the fastest animal in the world is a sheep running through the town centre? 🙂
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December 9, 2015 8:29pm
Johnboy

Bollocks old chap. Wiremu the Warlock isn’t strange at all. Just let him hit you once and he’ll leave you alone after that! 🙂
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December 9, 2015 8:30pm
Yvette

For instance, were you aware that the fastest animal in the world is a sheep running through the town centre?

But there is something faster than that – isn’t there, Johnboy? 🙂
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December 9, 2015 11:12pm
SPC

Andrei the Giant and little Putin, huge ambition but lacking in roubles when the bottom falls out of the oil market.
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December 9, 2015 11:45pm
SPC

Yvette, it’s not an official part of the Young Farmers contests but some provincial centres hosting these events do a late night sheep run after a few drinks to get the measure of the men. A surprising large number of eligible women seem to turn up to observe.
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December 9, 2015 11:51pm
Left Right and Centre

Andrew Little looks to me like he could be a cousin of Bain. I wonder if he had a paper route in his youth ?

I watched SBW in that duh-duh stomach-turning minority bro dialect of his telling the camera that the Syrians are just the same as us.
Being non-religious – I’d say that’s a big no, I don’t think we are all the same. Did they pray for some overrated wannabe Cuzzy Luther King, Jr to visit them ? Is he full cream muzza or muzza lite ? Fully paid up muesli nutbars can’t do anything and have all kinds of weird rules – he’s doing all that ? The five prayers ? Visiting Mecca ? Reading the book etc ? Subjugation of women and outdated views on every facet of Western civilisation ?
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December 10, 2015 6:34am
Manolo

Do-gooders of the world, rejoice: Mamma Merkel is a hero.
http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2015-angela-merkel-choice/
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