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December 5, 2015 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 5 December 2015

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mikenmild

I’m a bit confused, Penny.
Two comments ago you described your self as a ‘confirmed and serious’ 2016 Auckland mayoral candidate. Next comment, you omitted this. Are you no longer committed or serious?
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December 5, 2015 7:46pm
mikenmild

1-0 dave, I don’t care what they’re wearing.
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December 5, 2015 7:48pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

If [Penny] authorised them accordingly would it be ethical for Penny’s legal representatives to inform the public of the amount they were holding on her behalf?

I’m sure Penny would be in favour of complete transparency, Nasska, so the answer would have to be yes.
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December 5, 2015 7:54pm
mikenmild

Penny
Did you know that if all outstanding rates were collected by Auckland Council, they would be able to fund FREE bus travel for everyone in the Eastern Suburbs?
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December 5, 2015 7:54pm
nasska

Thanks Nostra. I guess we can look forward to a complete disclosure sometime next week.

A principled mayoral aspirant could do no less.
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December 5, 2015 7:59pm
Nostradamus

Mikenmild:

I think Penny will hold more public meetings so she can raise her profile as a mayoral candidate. Presumably Penny would be in favour of FREE bus travel for everyone. When do you suppose she’ll have a public meeting in Remuera? After all they pay rates too!

Nasska:

Did Penny ever get back to us on whether she intends to tell the District Court that she did receive some documents despite saying she hadn’t (which was the basis on which the District Court adjourned the matter until 21 December)?
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December 5, 2015 7:59pm
mikenmild

I should have thought that Penny would be wise to avoid going out in public at all if she wishes to maximise her vote.
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December 5, 2015 8:02pm
Nostradamus

Mikenmild:

Two comments ago you described your self as a ‘confirmed and serious’ 2016 Auckland mayoral candidate. Next comment, you omitted this. Are you no longer committed or serious?

Penny is most definitely committed and serious. How could she not be – she’s attended more anti-corruption conferences than anyone else!

[And, to my downticker friend, I’m flattered that you care enough to click the mouse button on every single one of my comments, but it’s a shame you can only shoot your load once, isn’t it?]
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December 5, 2015 8:07pm
nasska

Nothing I’ve read Nostra. She must be shitting bricks worrying about where she’ll spend Xmas.

I’m told that the High Court gets a bit sniffy about being mislead.
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December 5, 2015 8:09pm
stephieboy

Manolo (18,857 comments) says:
December 5th, 2015 at 7:04 pm

The beastly terrorist’s Paki roots:

Does this justify a ground invasion of Pakistan as matter of interest ?
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December 5, 2015 8:12pm
stigie

Nostra, im picking the Auckland Council will be armed to the teeth before the next court day. What is your take on it if you can tell us and will the hovel be sold or bulldozed down next year ? Your thoughts ?
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December 5, 2015 8:12pm
Captain Mainwaring

“Well Kiwibloggers, I am happy to report that today’s Public Meeting, at the Tamaki Ex-Services Association Hall in St Heliers, attended by both Auckland Transport and concerned locals and users of Eastern suburbs buses, went VERY well.”

Penny. Apropos to, and in addition to the prior comments:
Who gives a fuck?
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December 5, 2015 8:18pm
Nostradamus

Stigie:

I think Auckland Council will be the least of Penny’s worries!

Here’s what the District Court judge said at the last hearing:

In court on Wednesday the council’s legal team was unable to produce sufficient evidence that the large bundle of documents had been sent to her.

“You’re handing her a cast iron appeal point if I proceed,” Judge Bouchier told council lawyer James Hassall. “Regrettably I feel, despite having read the file and being all set to rock and roll on it, I feel I will have to adjourn the matter.”

Auckland Council has said that they can produce evidence that the large bundle of documents were sent to Penny and that she received them.

I think we’ll see significant developments on 21 December when the judge reads the updated file.
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December 5, 2015 8:21pm
stigie

“She must be shitting bricks worrying about where she’ll spend Xmas”.

Not at all Nasska !

http://www.funnyjunk.com/channel/toonhole/Housing+market/DDiuGQQ
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December 5, 2015 8:23pm
Nostradamus

Dodgy solicitor charged £750 an hour to attend client’s funeral

A dodgy solicitor has been struck off after charging £750 an hour to attend a client’s funeral.

Philip Crowe’s practice was in York, but his rate was strictly City. In 2000 he was instructed by a client, named at the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal as Mr HHL, to prepare a will, which appointed him as an executor and trustee. When HHL died, Crowe organised the distribution of £3,000 from the estate to eleven charities. Work for which he charged a punchy £71,646.

Crowe also billed the estate for attending HHL’s funeral, and helped himself to a loan from the estate of £121,950 to pay off his personal debts (secured by a charge over his office premises). But Crowe denied that he had been dishonest or inflated his costs, saying that HHL had requested that he be “very well paid”. Apparently the lawyer had actually “fought off the desires” of the “very determined old man” to leave everything to Crowe and his fellow trustee. Crowe also said that he deserved to be paid for attending the funeral, and that the other problems arose because he was “incompetent with paperwork”.

Jerks like this give lawyers a bad name.
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December 5, 2015 9:48pm
Manolo

Beyond barbarism:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3346424/Death-explosive-necklace-ISIS-ties-mortar-shells-rebels-necks-just-one-series-sickening-execution-videos-war-torn-Yemen.html
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December 5, 2015 10:05pm
Manolo

Unspeakable treason from Corbyn:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12034423/Jeremy-Corbyn-Execution-of-Brit-by-Jihadi-John-was-the-price-we-pay-for-war.html

Jeremy Corbyn said that the murder of Alan Henning at the hands of Jihadi John is “the price we pay for war and jingoism” just a day after aid worker’s death, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

The Labour leader said that Mr Henning’s execution by Isil terrorists was “the price of intervention” and “the price of war”.
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December 5, 2015 10:10pm
Nostradamus

From your link Manolo:

Four videos show Houthi rebels, who are battling both the government and al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), being executed in different sickening scenarios in a desert location.

Six men were blown up by a rocket launcher, another six were put on a boat which was sent out to sea and exploded, four were obliterated by the mortar shells hung around their necks and nine were beheaded with sharp daggers.

Have you asked Stephieboy whether these execution methods are mentioned in the Koran?
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December 5, 2015 10:10pm
Manolo

@Nostradamus: stephieboy will find an excuse, any excuse, to justify Islamic violence. Nothing is impossible for the peaceful followers of his prophet. Allahu akbar.
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December 5, 2015 10:16pm
Nostradamus

Heh – I see my downticker friend is back – see my 9:48 pm comment about a dodgy lawyer!

It takes a special kind of person to trawl through Kiwiblog rhreads for each of my comments so that it can be downticked. I’m actually quite amused!

My only question for my downticker friend is this: do you wear your soiled underpants over your head or around your ankles? [I’ll take a downtick as “around your ankles” – which raises all sorts of questions about what your fingers are doing when they’re not clicking the mouse button]
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December 5, 2015 10:25pm
Rich Prick

I hope sthephieboy is among the 40 being watched. I get the distinct feeling he will be our first Islamist to blow up in public.
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December 5, 2015 10:31pm
Nostradamus

Rich Prick:

Your reference to “the 40 being watched” prompted me to do a google search for “GCSB” and “Valerie Morse”. I found this website, which indicates that she makes lots of OIA requests. Very interesting to read her requests and the responses.

My favourite:

“Also, FYI… this will be coming your way more formally, shortly, but Valerie Morse has OIA’d us for a copy of the speech and communications between our office pre and post event”.

The response: “Sigh”.
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December 5, 2015 11:52pm
Nostradamus

That website is a treasure trove:

From: Grace Haden
October 23, 2014

Dear Auckland Council,

Urgent due to court action.

I am assisting Penny Bright in obtaining information for her court matter and require this information with urgency as her submissions are due next week .we would therefore appreciate this information by Friday 4 pm so that we can work on it over the long weekend.

1. Please advise where on the rates assessment notice is the penalty regime set out.
2. Please provide copies of the resolutions which authorize the addition of penalties to rates for each year 2006 until 2014. (being for Auckland city council in the years prior to 2010.
3. For each of the above resolution please advise when it was made, who by and where a publicly viewable copy could be located.
4. It would appear that penalties are also applied to the GST portion of the rates, please provide a copy of the authority by which penalties can be charged on GST .
5. How many rate payers incurred penalties after the 29 august 2014 installment date.

Yours faithfully,
Grace Haden

To quote from Alice in Wonderland: “‘Curiouser and curiouser!”
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December 6, 2015 12:05am
LabourDoesntWork

BOY RACER (noun). Someone with anti-social tendencies, who, lacking anything better to do, seeks to deface the public space to cause general offense. Impress no one but each other.
Usage: Got a fartbox exhaust for my Subaru because I can’t afford a Mustang or Camaro, because I’m a boy racer. Brrrm brrrrrrrrrm!

TAGGER (noun). See ‘boy racer’ and ‘surface work/90 IQ white trash garbage’
Usage: I’m a tagger and loser. I’m also a loser and pig-eyed white trash moron waiting for a heart attack.
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December 6, 2015 12:18am
LabourDoesntWork

Tashfeen Malik’s role in the San Bernardino attack demonstrates why why Islamic immigration in general is more of an existential threat than ISIS infiltration. It is also why vetting for ISIS terrorists is a complete non-sequitur to the issue at hand. Even if these individuals could be vetted for ties to professionally trained terrorists, investigators will miss the majority of Islamic terrorists who have not yet engaged in terror but harbor the views that will come to fruition after settling in America. – See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/12/how-many-tashfeen-maliks-have-we-brought-in#sthash.voslyd6V.dpuf
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December 6, 2015 12:21am
LabourDoesntWork

There is no way to vet strict Sharia adherence and ascertain if the immigrant truly hates our national and cultural values, or worse, will potentially engage in terror activity. As the Tashfeen story indicates, this is much larger than immigration from Syria or ISIS infiltration. Any number of devout Islamists throughout the Middle East could share the views of ISIS or Al Qaeda; inspiring them to commit terror attacks on our soil once we credulously let them through our front door. – See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/12/how-many-tashfeen-maliks-have-we-brought-in#sthash.voslyd6V.dpuf
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December 6, 2015 12:21am
LabourDoesntWork

What is so disconcerting is that the government has not published any data since 2013 and has still refused to release the 2014 DHS yearbook on immigration statistics. So the American people have quite literally no idea how many security threats we have admitted from the Middle East over the past two years. Likewise, the public does not know how many other Tashfeen Malik’s got through the same counter-terrorism screenings she did. There is no monthly data on green cards that is publically available. – See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/12/how-many-tashfeen-maliks-have-we-brought-in#sthash.voslyd6V.dpuf
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December 6, 2015 12:21am
LabourDoesntWork

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/11/syrians-are-terror-threat-here-are.html

Syria is a terror state. It didn’t become that way overnight because of the Arab Spring or the Iraq War.

Its people are not the victims of American foreign policy, Islamic militancy or any of the other fashionable excuses. They supported Islamic terrorism. Millions of them still do.

They are not the Jews fleeing a Nazi Holocaust. They are the Nazis trying to relocate from a bombed out Berlin.

These are the cold hard facts.

ISIS took over parts of Syria because its government willingly allied with it to help its terrorists kill Americans in Iraq. That support for Al Qaeda helped lead to the civil war tearing the country apart.

The Syrians were not helpless, apathetic pawns in this fight. They supported Islamic terrorism.

A 2007 poll showed that 77% of Syrians supported financing Islamic terrorists including Hamas and the Iraqi fighters who evolved into ISIS. Less than 10% of Syrians opposed their terrorism.

Why did Syrians support Islamic terrorism? Because they hated America.

Sixty-three percent wanted to refuse medical and humanitarian assistance from the United States. An equal number didn’t want any American help caring for Iraqi refugees in Syria.

The vast majority of Syrians turned down any form of assistance from the United States because they hated us. They still do. Just because they’re willing to accept it now, doesn’t mean they like us.

If we bring Syrian Muslims to America, we will be importing a population that hates us.
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December 6, 2015 12:35am
Manolo

Speaking against dhimmis, cowards, and appeasers:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/12/05/former-congressman-unleashes-on-attorney-general-in-rant-against-islam-go-ahead-and-prosecute-me-i-dare-you/

A former U.S. congressman urged Attorney General Loretta Lynch to arrest him after she warned on Thursday that her office would take a more aggressive approach to those spewing anti-Muslim rhetoric.

“I think Islam has a real freaking problem, alright?” Former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh said in a video posted to his Facebook page. “There is a cancer in Islam, and if they’re not going to learn to assimilate, I don’t want them in this country.”
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December 6, 2015 7:54am
itstricky

The other shooting on that day was religiously motivated as well, wasn’t it? How come it hasn’t been mentioned at all?
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December 6, 2015 8:18pm
stephieboy

Labourdoesn’twork, which millions of Syrians support Islamic terrorism precisely ? Do you include Christians , Yazidis ,Parsis etc . Thisis plain unadulterated crap designed purely and simply to whip up fear and hysteria

You ought to consider at least one contributor from the blog you linked ,Pamela Gellar . She is of course a birther and believes Obama is a Trojan Horse . A secret Muslim in other words . Even claimed Malcom X was his father . Though she is Jewish she finds e.g the Anti Defamation League Anti Jewish but indicted war criminal Radovan Karadžić[ isn’t though. . Strange bedfellows ? Gellar also hatched a bizarre conspiracy theory about the Boston Bombing and hat to beat retreat on that /

Moon bat Crazy and you will find the others including Rush Linburgh , Glen Beck etc of similar ilk.

Not very encouraging at all

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pamela_Geller
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