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Johnboy

We must be blood brothers Shawn. Minus downticks us both equally! 🙂
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December 16, 2015 8:02pm
Inandout

Cha 2.02pm: So Trump is in OK physical condition according to his doctor.

I wonder how Mohammad H. Said. M.D. will rate Obama’s health?
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December 16, 2015 8:03pm
stigie

“To be fair, the Occupy protestors weren’t junkies”

Yea, but all the unwashed smelt like Johnboy’s sheep dip ?
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December 16, 2015 8:04pm
nasska

Full Cherokee headwear might scare the livestock JB. 🙂
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December 16, 2015 8:04pm
Longknives

You not aware of all the needles and drug paraphernalia left lying in Aotea Square once the Council finally got rid of the ‘Occupy’ No-Hopers Fernglas??

WINZ should have cut all their benefits…
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December 16, 2015 8:05pm
Shawn Herles

Victoria Crone’s fitness to be Mayor.

1. She has had a real job.

2. She is not a bludger who gets others to fund her lifestyle.

3. She has never been on a protest march with Jew hater mad Marxist Minto.

4. She pays her rates.

5. She has never been arrested and hauled away by the police while screaming like an unhinged loon.

6. She is not Phil Goff or Penny Dim.

Yup, I would vote for her! 🙂
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December 16, 2015 8:06pm
Shawn Herles

“We must be blood brothers Shawn. Minus downticks us both equally!”

Ol Minus is a sad little bugger isn’t he.

Ya know, I don’t normally make suggestions like this, but he really should take up masturbation instead. At least there’s a pay off at the end. 🙂
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December 16, 2015 8:09pm
Johnboy

You dont think I should try it on my breeding hind then nasska?

I thought she might think I’m a stag….then again so might he! 🙂
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December 16, 2015 8:10pm
cha

So Trump is in OK physical condition according to his doctor.

Aspirin and statins – par for the course if you’re an old man.
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December 16, 2015 8:11pm
Johnboy

“Aspirin and statins – par for the course if you’re an old man.”

Omeprazole, Metformin, Atenolol, Allopurinol, Inhibace plus, Viagra……You’re obviously a young bugger cha you know fuckall about the drugs us old jokers need to keep up with the play! 🙂
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December 16, 2015 8:18pm
Inandout

cha: Is Obama still a nicotine addict?
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December 16, 2015 8:18pm
nasska

Strange people those indigenous North Americans JB.

A few feathers in their hair, half a beef carcass hanging round their necks with a chook bone shoved through their nose & they’re hot to trot. 🙂
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December 16, 2015 8:18pm
mikenmild

Shawn
Your criteria for mayoral suitability are very broad. Want to narrow it down a bit so that Crone might stand out a bit more?
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December 16, 2015 8:19pm
publicwatchdog

Thank you Kiwibloggers for continuing to read and comment on my posts 🙂

You really can’t help yourselves – can you – you old silly billies 😉

You have a GREAT evening!

(You’ve certainly helped make mine 🙂

Kind regards

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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December 16, 2015 8:22pm
Nostradamus

So, Penny, do you admit that you were trolling this thread?

Have you read DPF’s commenting policy?

[Oh dear – that’s two rapid-fire questions – and I’ve just remembered that you ask questions but don’t answer them]
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December 16, 2015 8:24pm
Longknives

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/75174875/rotorua-teen-an-internet-hit-after-street-kapa-haka-performance-for-tourists

So if some Tourists accidentally take a wrong turn up my dead-end street I can run out with an axe yelling and threatening them? Just for fun??
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December 16, 2015 8:28pm
publicwatchdog

Which of 2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate Victoria Crone’s stated policies – especially on ‘fiscal responsibility’ do you particularly like Kiwibloggers?

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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December 16, 2015 8:28pm
Johnboy

Shawn of course is Oirish for John nasska.

I do sometimes wonder if Shawn and I may have been blood brothers in a previous existence? 🙂
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December 16, 2015 8:28pm
Johnboy

Just joking Reid old chap! 🙂
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December 16, 2015 8:30pm
Shawn Herles

“A few feathers in their hair, half a beef carcass hanging round their necks with a chook bone shoved through their nose & they’re hot to trot. ”

Hey! That’s offensive! I happen to like a little Johnny Cash on the stereo as well!
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December 16, 2015 8:36pm
Reid

No one’s listening Reid.

That’s not why I post it Johnboy.

However I don’t think I’d be keen to hide behind a Russian weapon system faced with an attack from a Yankee one! None of their stuff has stood up too well in combat against the western stuff.

You haven’t been paying attention lately have you. Perhaps you should. Just google “aegis russia shutdown” and have a look. That’s just an example.

Russia isn’t what you think it is.

You need to use that mind God gave you. Things are a lot more obvious now than they were when we were having those discussions in the Lifeboat, what with Syria and ISIS and all. And what I was saying back then continues to play out, doesn’t it. More and more obvious and more and more evil, with each passing day.

If a train’s coming towards you John, I prefer to look straight at it, rather than pretend it doesn’t exist. At least my way gives one options. Ignoring it or hallucinating it away, leaves one with none.
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December 16, 2015 8:36pm
Shawn Herles

“Thank you Kiwibloggers for continuing to read and comment on my posts”

Yeah, we really should stop doing that. It only encourages her.
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December 16, 2015 8:37pm
publicwatchdog

This is General Debate on Kiwiblog.

David Farrar is the host of Kiwiblog.

I’m expressing a variety of considered opinions with which a number of you (obviously) disagree.

Diddums.

Perhaps some of you just need to practice your ‘jandal handling’ skills?

(Meant of course in a caring way 🙂

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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December 16, 2015 8:40pm
Shawn Herles

“No one’s listening Reid.

That’s not why I post it Johnboy.”

Ooook……. hmmmmm.

“Russia isn’t what you think it is.”

It’s Iceland?
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December 16, 2015 8:40pm
stigie

Penny:-

There’s 6 questions that Nostradamus put up today for you to answer honestly….

Be a good girl and answer them just like all the other candidates did…

In my considered opinion try and get in first before Victoria Crone answers them for you !~
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December 16, 2015 8:41pm
sooty

Penny 8.28. What ever is the oppesite to what you say, will do me!
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December 16, 2015 8:43pm
Andrei

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErJE9btRfUQ
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December 16, 2015 8:45pm
Johnboy

You must post because you want folk to listen Reid. Why else would you bother?

Until the shit hits the fan none of us will know which weapon system will win. When it does we all will be the losers.

Whatever way you may wish to look at the oncoming train Reid will not make one iota of difference.

New Zealands place in dodging oncoming trains hardly ever existed and the depredations of Lange and Helen have reduced it to zero.

We can of course pray or change our flag and hope that our enemies don’t recognise it while they’re doing their targeting! 🙂
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December 16, 2015 8:48pm
cha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=277&v=0c4aDKsX-TU
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December 16, 2015 8:50pm
cha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=229&v=3l7FukufH-Y
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December 16, 2015 8:52pm
Nostradamus

Stigie:

There’s 6 questions that Nostradamus put up today for you to answer honestly….

I think we’ll be lucky to get any answers out of Penny – honest answers would definitely be a bonus though!
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December 16, 2015 8:56pm
cha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcuMcTq6dgM
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December 16, 2015 9:01pm
publicwatchdog

I’m actually delighted that business woman Victoria Crone is standing in the 2016 Auckland Mayoralty.

That takes the pro-Supercity / pro-corporate 2016 Auckland Mayoral candidates to four:

Stephen Berry
Mark Thomas
Phil Goff
Victoria Crone

Surely all those highly-paid corporate spin-doctors haven’t forgotten ‘Electoral Politics 101’?

DON’T SPLIT THE VOTE?

How DUMB is that?

Hate to remind you – but in 2013 – only 36% of Auckland voters bothered?

So – here’s the thing Kiwibloggers.

Nearly two thirds of Auckland voters didn’t in 2013 – which is a rather large number of potential voters?

What if significant numbers of previous non-voters feel inspired to vote for a Mayoral candidate – who clearly doesn’t represent corporate interests?

And the third of Auckland voters who did vote in 2013, are now ‘spoiled for choice’ with the ever-growing numbers of pro- corporate / pro- ‘Supercity’ candidates – ie: the vote is potentially significantly split.

Unfortunately, Kiwibloggers, I think you will find increasing numbers of Auckland voters are actually starting to realise that a Mayoral candidate who is campaigning for Auckland Council and CCOs to be held accountable to the ‘rule of law’ regarding citizens and ratepayers’ LAWFUL rights to ‘open, transparent and democratically accountable’ local government – is an increasingly attractive proposition.

(That’s what I’ve been finding out in the Eastern suburbs ….:)

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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December 16, 2015 9:15pm
fernglas

Penny

One last time. You have no policy to deal with your obvious conflict of interest. How can you claim to be an anti-corruption campaigner when you are campaigning on a basis of corruption?
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December 16, 2015 9:16pm
Griff

DON’T SPLIT THE VOTE?

How DUMB is that?

About as dumb as you splitting the invalid and not even fulled in vote penny dearest.

Have you caught up with Garret yet I understand he is keen as a rutting stag on you at the mo
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December 16, 2015 9:18pm
nasska

….”That takes the pro-Supercity / pro-corporate 2016 Auckland Mayoral candidates to four:

Stephen Berry
Mark Thomas
Phil Goff
Victoria Crone”….

But at least they’re sane! 🙂
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December 16, 2015 9:18pm
Johnboy

“Unfortunately, Kiwibloggers, I think you will find increasing numbers of Auckland voters are actually starting to realise that a Mayoral candidate who is campaigning for Auckland Council and CCOs to be held accountable to the ‘rule of law’ regarding citizens and ratepayers’ LAWFUL rights to ‘open, transparent and democratically accountable’ local government – is an increasingly attractive proposition.”

Don’t be silly Penny….Goofy will win……he might find a job for you cleaning the council loo’s…only if you don’t talk about what you see there! 🙂
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December 16, 2015 9:21pm
nasska

The mayoral office & the Ngati Whatua Room can do with a wipe over now & again too. 🙂
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December 16, 2015 9:24pm
Johnboy

The Ngati Whatua room needs a regular antiseptic wash I believe nasska! 🙂 🙂
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December 16, 2015 9:26pm
nasska

Probably an occasional spray with a good spermicide wouldn’t go amiss either JB. 🙂
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December 16, 2015 9:28pm
Captain Mainwaring

“They’re coming to take me away haha, they’re coming to take me away hoho, to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time……….etc. ”
Penny, I’m sure you’ll enjoy it there, and less stressful than being the mayor.
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December 16, 2015 9:29pm
Johnboy

Still I doubt if Goofy has a good shot left in him so Penny’s chores would be less arduous than if she cleaned under Len! 🙂
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December 16, 2015 9:29pm
Johnboy

Bloody old minus never sleeps I see! 🙂

Fun to have you with us old chap!

Obsessive compulsives are what drives KB to it’s heights of splendour old chap.

Keep doing your bit! 🙂
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December 16, 2015 9:33pm
Nostradamus

Johnboy:

Still I doubt if Goofy has a good shot left in him so Penny’s chores would be less arduous than if she cleaned under Len!

I’m not sure if Goff is an avid reader, and if he is, whether he’s read Into the River:

Tania had Devon’s jeans off much faster than he managed to clear the hooks on her bra. The urgency now bordered on panic. Then she had his cock in her wet hand. He gasped. The next thing was he felt a fluttering convulsion and came immediately, draping the wall of the bathroom with a ribbon of sperm.

Len Brown might see that last part as an aspirational goal.
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December 16, 2015 9:37pm
Johnboy

“Len Brown might see that last part as an aspirational goal.”

You mean Len always wanted to be a wanker Nostra?

Has anyone told him he’s succeeded in spades? 🙂
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December 16, 2015 9:43pm
Awww C-mon

” stressful than being the mayor.”

Actually it could be funny to watch Penny try and handle the million small decisions she would need to make each day, her head would explode. As long as she didn’t have her hands on the money of course!
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December 16, 2015 9:49pm
KevinH

@Penny
To answer your question, Victoria Crone shares the same concerns as yourself regarding council expenditure. Unlike yourself Victoria has an experienced focus to her analysis and has already identified an overblown payroll as one area requiring review.This is not unusual for a C.E.O in a new position to review costs and overheads.
It may well be that Victoria will be looking at the performance of CCO’s and whether they are achieving set goals and objectives. Further to that the performance of contractors may also receive some attention.
The role of Auckland mayor is a time consuming position with duties spread across civic and statutory responsibilities. It is important for any person in this position to have a trusted group of advisors and managers to function in the role effectively.
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December 16, 2015 10:04pm
Nookin

I have some questions. I know that Penelope will not be answering them but perhaps somebody else might be able to offer an opinion.

Is Penelope’s proposed team of expert auditors contrary to the provisions of the Local Government (Auckland Council) Act especially when read in conjunction with clause 6.9 of the code of conduct?

The Chief Executive is responsible for implementing and managing the Council’s policies and objectives. It is the responsibility of the Auditor-General to “audit” the books.

If the issue of accountability of CCOs arises, council must undergo the Special Consultative Procedure rather than act on the whim of the mayor.

I doubt whether Penny will answer this but has she given any consideration to the legality of her proposal and has she consulted the Chief Executive or the Auditor-General to see if it would be legal and would not constitute a direct undermining of the role of the Chief Executive?

Given that Penny has already declared that she will go behind the back of the Chief Executive and do his job for him and, given in particular that she has already sued the Chief Executive at significant expense to the Council (i.e. the ratepayers, i.e. the voters) and did not consider it worthy of her time to turn up to the hearing, how will it be possible to establish a relationship of trust and confidence between the mayor and the Chief Executive?

Given that there is an obligation on members of the Governing Body to be as open as possible about their actions and should be prepared to justify their actions, do you think Penelope should prove her ability to comply with this particular aspect of the code of conduct by explaining whether, indeed, she did mislead the court and, if so, whether it was inadvertent or deliberate?

If, as the code says, members are accountable to the public for their decisions and actions and must cooperate fully and honestly with the scrutiny appropriate to their particular office, would you not expect a PUBLICwatchdog to be more amenable to answering questions?

The code of conduct has a clause devoted to impartiality. How can a Mayor be impartial when the mayor campaigns on a platform of anti-corporate, anti-business and a conviction that those associated with corporate business are all guilty of corruption?

Did Mark Twain have someone like Penny in mind when he decreed that politicians and diapers should be changed regularly and for the same reason?
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December 16, 2015 10:05pm
Nostalgia-NZ

Jeb Bush, from soundbites at least, won the debate in Las vegas. A sharp effort that exposed Trump in spades.
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December 16, 2015 10:08pm
PhilP

Has Victoria Crone ever attended a single Auckland Council Governing Body or Auckland Council Committee meeting?

How about any Auckland Council Controlled Organisation (CCO) meeting?

How about any Auckland Local Board meeting?

“Has Victoria Crone had any experience as a ‘public servant’?

Has Victoria Crone ever had any experience of local government law?

If not – no disrespect – but how is she possibly ‘fit for duty’ as a potential Mayor of Auckland?

Seriously?

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate”.

If you Penny, were “fit for duty”, you would know the answers to your questions about Victoria Crone.
Me thinks you are running scared of another woman in the race. You already have VCOD.
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December 16, 2015 10:39pm
Manolo

What will Qatar do? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35112774

Gunmen have kidnapped at least 27 Qatari hunters – including members of the ruling family – in a desert area of Iraq near the Saudi border, say police and the local governor.

The attackers were driving dozens of four-wheel drive vehicles when they swept into the hunters’ camp at dawn on Wednesday, officials said.
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December 17, 2015 7:04am
Shawn Herles

“Jeb Bush, from soundbites at least, won the debate in Las vegas. A sharp effort that exposed Trump in spades.”

Your kidding, right? Far from it, Bush flailed about trying to score hits and failed. Trump swatted them away easily.

So far, from actually watching the debate, and looking at various media opinions, the consensus is that Trump and Cruz won pretty much equally.
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December 17, 2015 7:23am
Andrei

So Shawn – did you understand what I was suggesting to you when I posted that video last night?

We live in very troubled times my friend – Trump, Cruz, Clinton, what does it matter?
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