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December 13, 2015 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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sooty

Paulus, but it’s fun!
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December 13, 2015 10:46am
Paul Marsden

Listening to some of the timeless and wonderful Christmas songs on the radio and my anger starts to seethe at the likes of Susan Devoy (aka The Christmas Grinch) who not only wants to steal Christmas from us adults, but more importantly the children, and their children’s children. By her implication, she would want all of these songs banned too. How dare she and what a nonsense her position-of-office has become.
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December 13, 2015 10:46am
Manolo

Muslims try to take their message of love to Switzerland:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/12/switzerland-two-held-toxic-gas-syrian

Two men of Syrian origin suspected of being linked to terrorism were arrested in Geneva on Friday after traces of explosives were found, a government official has said.

Prosecutor Olivier Jornot said the two men had recently arrived in Geneva when they were arrested and did not speak French.
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December 13, 2015 10:46am
Manolo

Only in Africa. This “enlighthened” country go backwards and condemns itself to permanent shit-hole status:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/12/gambia-now-an-islamic-republic-says-president-yahya-jammeh

Gambia has been declared an Islamic republic by President Yahya Jammeh who said he wanted to further distance the west African state from its colonial past.

The tiny, formerly secular country, joins the ranks of other officially Islamic republics such as Iran and Afghanistan.
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December 13, 2015 10:50am
Reid

http://barbwire.com/2015/12/12/trump-and-unintended-consequences/
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December 13, 2015 10:55am
nickb

Steady The Ship en route to another magical 100. I wonder if big bruv would still pick him behind Andrew Jones at first drop…
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December 13, 2015 10:56am
Manolo

Thank you for the link, Reid.

America needs a president who can make bold and sensible decisions and stick with them. America was built by people like Trump, not by the timid who must consult with a political advisor or pollster before deciding what to believe. Donald Trump is not a politician, and many Americans find that refreshing.

America is broken. Our national security is nearly non-existent. The Obama administration has exalted evil and depravity and condemned what is good, righteous and lawful. Obama has emboldened and empowered our enemies and rebuffed our few loyal friends.
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December 13, 2015 11:01am
Awww C-mon

“My candidate’s returns have always complied with the LAW regarding campaign donations”

Penny there is plenty of rumours about you receiving income from other sources, are ALL your accounts clean and clear or just your campaign accounts? You have never answered questions about donations from Kim Dotcom that I have seen would you care to clarify today?
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December 13, 2015 11:24am
Left Right and Centre

I’m not too worried about the little Duncan & Heather sideshow. It’s just about the same old tired schtick rehashed from Captain Happy Clappy.

I’ll watch a programme hoping to see something that isn’t all about them. They showed something called Hamilton Gardens or something – and it looked great. Pity about the hosts blindfolding each other, playing games and sucking space and time away from the cool gardens. (I’d love to see how long it would take for a locked in Garner to start eating the roses out of a frothing desperate demented starvation. Ninety minutes ?)

Heather’s full name is so bad that even the shortened version is a mouthful. HDPA ? Yeah – comes fitted as standard on most new vehicles I think. I hate double barrels. Almost as bad a terrorist name like Yasin al-Mazda bin Lada ib-Mondeo. I don’t know if you know but she’s got a killer pair of lower legs. I’d use that more on Story. Under the desk cam. Here’s a calf update. I aint seen much upper leg but the lower bits are that good – who cares. Don’t need ’em.

TV3 are the low class channel. All the promos during content – the endless promotion of crap programmes trying to sell dribbling shitheads every ad break. Promo watermarks, hello ? Fuck off. Small country – not a hell of a lot of choice. Hosking and Street grinning like a retard seeing a pony for the first time – or HDTV and the human Truth Paper competing for the leftover moronic masses who are too thick to keep track of their remotes leaving their set stuck on Story.

They make those stupid comments thick and fast – throwaway – idiotic – they’re on TV time – Garner yaps faster than anyone could possibly talk while actually giving any consideration to what comes out. Maybe he’s a super genius. You’d love to clock his talking speed. Speeding down a one-way street to cancelville.
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December 13, 2015 11:27am
publicwatchpuppy

Good Morning Kiwibloggers!

I am not here for long today because I have a very important sandpit meeting to attend to as I need to sort out some very rude boys who don’t share or play nicely.

I did however read some very mean things said and too many people asking questions of Miss Big-dog. You are not very nice!

Please refrain from asking her anything else today is very busy doing meetings and other important things. Some of you are just like the naughty selfish boys at kindy.

Thank you

puppywatchpublic
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December 13, 2015 11:34am
Rowan

Chuck Bird @ 9.27

This comment from your link sums up the arrogant tax lawyer very well.

‘Interesting article, and fair questions. In my opinion Judith Collins is an unpleasant, arrogant, hard right politician, cleared by the typical whitewash style inquiry. And dont forget Judith Collins was mired in other controversies such as Orividia and David Bain, and just does not come across as believable to me.

She was also weak on alcohol reform and made other dubious decisions, and is not competent in my books. So she was bought back either so Key could keep his enemies close, or to actually promote this ghastly politician.’
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December 13, 2015 11:37am
Kimbo

@ Paul Marsden

Listening to some of the timeless and wonderful Christmas songs on the radio and my anger starts to seethe at the likes of Susan Devoy (aka The Christmas Grinch) who not only wants to steal Christmas from us adults, but more importantly the children, and their children’s children. By her implication, she would want all of these songs banned too. How dare she and what a nonsense her position-of-office has become.

Quite right – although I don’t know if I want my kids singing this Christmas Carol Classic!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af7LwnA913g
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December 13, 2015 11:41am
cas

I thought radio hosts on Natiponal radio were supposed to have a modicum of objectivitiy. Well Wallace Chapman’s interview with Jenny Shipley this morning blew that thought away. He talked over the top of her and made his socialist feelings very well known in response to her points. A dreadful interview with a very very biased interviewer.
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December 13, 2015 11:46am
Reid

http://galacticconnection.com/secret-history-revealed-putin-played-critical-role-after-the-pre-planned-collapse-of-the-ussr/#sthash.qZ2Am3uN.c1bLDlAh.dpbs

For the many intuitive souls out there who can look at a photo and apprehend the spirit of the person being photographed, here’s a great teaching moment about the real Vladimir Putin.

http://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/92.jpg
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December 13, 2015 11:47am
Southern Raider

National Radio is only objective when they are discussing socialist issues and interviewing socialist figureheads.
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December 13, 2015 11:59am
Reid

Donald Trump: Friend or Foe of the American People
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December 13, 2015 12:04pm
stephieboy

Reid, yet another conspiracy the pre planned collapse of the Soviet Union .

Tell us more of this dastardly deed ?

Do you anticipate Putin returning to the centralised Gosplan command economy soon ? Collectivisation of agriculture also ?

http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Gosplan.aspx
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December 13, 2015 12:19pm
Viking2

all you warming nutters will now have anew theory to rant about.
Here ya go.

Scientists have announced a potential solution to a tantalising puzzle about sea-level rise that’s remained unsolved for more than a decade. In doing so, they’ve helped confirm scientists’ latest estimates of 20th-century glacial melting and our understanding of how sea-level rise fundamentally affects the planet – down to the way it spins on its axis.

At issue is a scientific quandary known as “Munk’s enigma”, which was introduced by famed oceanographer Walter Munk in a 2002 paper published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The enigma refers to a key discrepancy between the amount of sea-level rise believed to have occurred during the 20th century and the effects it should have produced on the planet – specifically, on the Earth’s rotation.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/75045164/scientists-may-have-just-solved-one-of-the-most-troubling-mysteries-about-sealevel-rise

So the rotation is sl;owing. I just knew that my days were getting longer and my watch was all up the shit.

😆
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December 13, 2015 12:30pm
stigie

..”I forgot to add, Phil Ure never gave his ARC bus back”.

Was that the same bus Starbored that the Phool use to travel to the library in each day to work on his Whoar blog..?
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December 13, 2015 12:35pm
stephieboy

Viking 2, this from your link,

Viking, this from your link,

“..Additionally, glacial melt can also cause the Earth’s rotation to wobble a little, since “the melting of glaciers isn’t perfectly symmetrical, and the water will move more in some parts of the Earth than others,” Mitrovica said.
NASA
The Thwaites Glacier, in Antarctica. The melting of glaciers – caused by the world’s rising temperatures – appears to be causing a slight slowing of the Earth’s rotation”

Again your point ?
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December 13, 2015 12:41pm
starboard

Dont think so stigie, I believe the wheels are off and its up on blocks.
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December 13, 2015 12:43pm
freemark

The stench of corruption floats around at least one of the Auckland Mayoral Candidates..
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December 13, 2015 12:49pm
Jack5

Radio NZ’s Labour Programme Sunday Morning today included an interview with a promoter of “plain English” who runs commercial courses and offers “plain English” products.

Would this interview have been offered when Sunday Morning was run by Chris Laidlaw? Long being familiar with Fowler, Orwell, Philip Howard, Strunk and White and all, I doubt Laidlaw would have included it in his Sunday morning slot.
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December 13, 2015 12:53pm
stephieboy

jack 5, Radio NZ’s Labour Programme Sunday Morning today included an extensive interview with Dame Shipley . Can you give us sample of what would be for you some ideal programming apart from your more usual redneck stuff ?
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December 13, 2015 1:04pm
Reid

In the feudal era there were the “three estates” — the clergy, the nobility and the commons. The first and second were eradicated in Robespierre’s Revolution.

But in the 18th and 19th century, Edmund Burke and Thomas Carlyle identified what the latter called a “stupendous Fourth Estate…”

…The fourth estate, the press, the disciples of Voltaire, had replaced the clergy it had dethroned as the new arbiters of morality and rectitude…

…With the rise of network television and its vast audience, the fourth estate reached apogee in the 1960s and 1970s, playing lead roles in elevating JFK and breaking Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon.

Yet before he went down, Nixon inflicted deep and enduring wounds upon the fourth estate.

When the national press and its auxiliaries sought to break his Vietnam War policy in 1969, Nixon called on the “great silent majority” to stand by him and dispatched Vice President Spiro Agnew to launch a counter-strike on network prejudice and power.

A huge majority rallied to Nixon and Agnew, exposing how far out of touch with America our Lords Spiritual and Lords Temporal had become.

Nixon, the man most hated by the elites in the postwar era, save Joe McCarthy, who also detested and battled the press, then ran up a 49-state landslide against the candidate of the media and counter-culture, George McGovern. Media bitterness knew no bounds.

And with Watergate, the press extracted its pound of flesh. By August 1974, it had reached a new apex of national prestige…

…Since those days, conservatives have attacked the mainstream media attacking them. And four decades of this endless warfare has stripped the press of its pious pretense to neutrality.

Millions now regard the media as ideologues who are masquerading as journalists and use press privileges and power to pursue agendas not dissimilar to those of the candidates and parties they oppose…

…Enter The Donald.

His popularity is traceable to the fact that he rejects the moral authority of the media, breaks their commandments, and mocks their condemnations. His contempt for the norms of Political Correctness is daily on display.

And that large slice of America that detests a media whose public approval now rivals that of Congress, relishes this defiance. The last thing these folks want Trump to do is to apologize to the press.

And the media have played right into Trump’s hand.

They constantly denounce him as grossly insensitive for what he has said about women, Mexicans, Muslims, McCain and a reporter with a disability. Such crimes against decency, says the press, disqualify Trump as a candidate for president.

Yet, when they demand he apologize, Trump doubles down. And when they demand that Republicans repudiate him, the GOP base replies:

“Who are you to tell us whom we may nominate? You are not friends. You are not going to vote for us. And the names you call Trump — bigot, racist, xenophobe, sexist — are the names you call us, nothing but cuss words that a corrupt establishment uses on those it most detests.”

What the Trump campaign reveals is that, to populists and Republicans, the political establishment and its media arm are looked upon the way the commons and peasantry of 1789 looked upon the ancient regime and the king’s courtiers at Versailles.

Yet, now that the fourth estate is as discredited as the clergy in 1789, the larger problem is that there is no arbiter of truth, morality and decency left whom we all respect. Like 4th-century Romans, we barely agree on what those terms mean anymore.

http://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2015/12/04/why-liberal-media-hate-trump-n2088664/page/full
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December 13, 2015 1:12pm
stigie

“The stench of corruption floats around at least one of the Auckland Mayoral Candidates”..

There would be no stench of corruption if the candidates were honest, transparent, accountable with integrity.
But most of all, a candidate who has lied in court and wishes not to apologize when knowing that person has done wrong ?

How could anyone vote for such a candidate…?
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December 13, 2015 1:26pm
Odakyu-sen

So, The Donald might be the New Nixon?

Who would have thunk?

(Where’s my popcorn machine?)
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December 13, 2015 1:26pm
Shawn Herles

Reid at 11:47

http://galacticconnection.com

Seriously?

And what kind of “Christian” sources from a New Age web site promoting “Galactic” religion and un-Biblical spiritual practices?
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December 13, 2015 1:27pm
PhilP

“I thought radio hosts on National radio were supposed to have a modicum of objectivity. Well Wallace Chapman’s interview with Jenny Shipley this morning blew that thought away. He talked over the top of her and made his socialist feelings very well known in response to her points. A dreadful interview with a very very biased interviewer”.

Why so surprised? I wouldn’t expect anything else from the hosts of Red Radio, would you?
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December 13, 2015 1:30pm
Reid

The Syrian Holocaust: A Preplanned Genocide And Forced Exodus

…Conclusion

First and foremost, that the bogus Arab Spring was coordinated by the Anglo-American Axis, especially the USA, UK, France, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Israel. The Obama Administration, and especially Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, were the key players in this CIA-coordinated black operation. Likewise, UK Prime Minster David Cameron and Foreign Secretary William Hague made sure that Great Britain provided political and material support whenever necessary. Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu as well as his entire government of warhawks have been deeply involved in every aspect of the Syrian Holocaust, although usually in a quite furtive manner.

Secondly, that the Obama Administration has been directly responsible for funding, equipping and arming ISIS via the CIA & Company. While Christian communities have been ruthlessly wiped out, Obama has empowered their persecutors. While Christians have been beheaded, crucified and shot by the hundreds after digging their mass graves, Obama has rejected Syrian Christian refugees. Clearly, the President of the United States has empowered some of the most barbaric terrorist organizations of the 3rd millennium.

Top Obama Appointee: “President Knowingly and Willingly Armed ISIS

Truly, there is now a stain on America’s honor that will never be forgotten. The profound betrayal of American values, of the American people, and the friends of this once great nation is such that the world will never trust the USA again. Vast swaths of the Middle East have now been transformed into a dystopian, post-apocalyptic wasteland because of the actions taken by the only hegemonic superpower on Earth. Likewise, through the gross neglect and reprehensible inaction on the part of the United States of America, the indigenous peoples of the Mideast have been subjected to every kind of horror and indignity.

Now the world really knows why Turkey, Israel and the USA have steadfastly denied the terror-filled Armenian Genocide for 100 long years … … … and counting! Yes, the Zio-Anglo-American Axis is executing nearly the exact same scheme of extermination and forced mass migration as they did during the Armenian Genocide. And the Zionist cabal is doing it right now — in the very same place — throughout Syria (and Iraq), while the whole of humanity watches.

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=25505
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December 13, 2015 1:45pm
Reid

Reid at 11:47

As usual Captain Bananas gets all confused about the source and fails to note it actually came from an entirely different site altogether. Not that the source matters in the least, it’s the content, stupid.

And what kind of “Christian” expresses the kind of hate-filled diatribes he constantly expresses on an entire religion – Islam?

But what do we expect from him?

Very little, as far as I’m concerned. So far, he’s never disappointed me.
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December 13, 2015 1:47pm
Awww C-mon

Where have you gone Penny?

So many questions left unanswered
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December 13, 2015 2:06pm
Stars And Stripes

Sooner they chop down that damn Kauri tree the better and then the unwashed lynch mob will have to find somewhere else to squat for a while.
Actually we could have a big bonfire afterwards using the wood and all those hippies could roast their organic tofu kebabs on it and sing kumbaya.
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December 13, 2015 2:15pm
igm

Public Dog: You best desist from threatening anyone with crap such as “Thin Ice”. By the time you are put through the cleaners you won’t even have a fridge.
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December 13, 2015 2:28pm
Rich Prick

If Penny changed her name to “None of the above” she could have an outside chance.
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December 13, 2015 2:39pm
renderer

Dear oh dear Ms Bright got a smack on the nose not once but twice this morning at the Standard. Even her own are turning on her. What hope does she have, “team on the ground” or not. The woman is delusional.
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December 13, 2015 2:45pm
Shawn Herles

Reid,

“As usual Captain Bananas gets all confused about the source”

You linked to it, so it’s fair game.

“and fails to note it actually came from an entirely different site altogether”

You could have posted that instead then. Think before you post, otherwise you can’t complain.

“And what kind of “Christian” expresses the kind of hate-filled diatribes he constantly expresses on an entire religion – Islam?”

There is no hate on my part towards Muslims, only Christian discernment and a strong dose of common sense with regards to the realities of Islam.

Hatred would be your ranting against Israel and the US.
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December 13, 2015 2:53pm
publicwatchdog

Sorry Kiwibloggers – been at a meeting.

Can’t just sit around commenting on Kiwiblog all day – have other things to do – issues to help organise, you know – busy busy 🙂

Seems SO many of you have missed me!

How sweet.

You all have a LOVELY afternoon.

Kind regards,

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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December 13, 2015 2:54pm
stigie

“Sorry Kiwibloggers – been at a meeting”.

Was there a stench at the meeting Penny…?
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December 13, 2015 2:58pm
publicwatchdog

Oh the ironing!

Here’s the same Cameron Slater, whose phone records of conversations with Judith Collins, would have been arguably pivotal evidence in the Chisolm Inquiry, rather miraculously / mysteriously were unavailable?

Gosh – how convenient.

“Collins resigned from Cabinet over a year ago amid allegations of improper behaviour. A subsequent inquiry found no evidence of wrongdoing and she was cleared. Those making the allegations suffered no consequence but Collins did. …”

That’s politics. The allegations were damaging to National’s re-election chances and she had to go, irrespective of the validity of the attacks. In politics, there’s winning and losing and not much in between. ..”

(File under you couldn’t make this sh*t up? As it were ….:)

Meant of course in a caring way.

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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December 13, 2015 3:02pm
publicwatchdog

No Stigie – no ‘stench’ at the meeting.

Probably helped by your not being there?

Meant of course in a caring way 🙂

Kind regards

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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December 13, 2015 3:04pm
stigie

The last thing i would not want is to smell like you Penny dearest ?
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December 13, 2015 3:07pm
Shawn Herles

Penny, your chances of becoming mayor of Auckland are zero.

Please get a job and pay your rates so working Aucklanders are no longer forced to subsidize your lifestyle.

Said in a caring way, of course. 🙂
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December 13, 2015 3:07pm
Shawn Herles

Geneva: Syrians Arrested in Potential Chemical Weapon Attack Plot

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/12/geneva-syrians-arrested-in-potential-chemical-weapon-attack-plot/
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December 13, 2015 3:23pm
Shawn Herles

Liberal Left terrorism?

“An American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) Board Member in Colorado has resigned after making national news headlines for urging people to kill Donald Trump supporters.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/12/aclu-colorado-board-member-resigns-threatening-shoot-trump-supporters/
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December 13, 2015 3:25pm
Don the Kiwi

Just done three hours of concreting.

Off to the son’s place for a blast in the Mustang. 🙂
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December 13, 2015 3:27pm
publicwatchdog

Thank you so much Kiwibloggers, for reading and commenting on my posts.

Have other things to do now …..

But – don’t despair!

I’ll be back 🙂

Kind regards

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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December 13, 2015 3:31pm
Nookin

Tell us Penny, do you subscribe to the City Mayors code of ethics? ( http://www.citymayors.com/gratis/code-ethics.html). What about the mandate that you will be open to public scrutiny? It gives the AC voters little comfort that you refuse to answer a single question about any of your policies and, particularly, about matters affecting your credibility.

As I see it, if there is any possibilty that you will be embroiled in litigation with the council or council staff come election then you must immediately withdraw your candidacy. That seems absolutely clear from the code of ethics, does it not?
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December 13, 2015 3:37pm
Captain Mainwaring

Penny, don’t hurry. We’ve had enough of your crap for one day. (Unless of course you want to answer some of the questions you’ve been asked.)
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December 13, 2015 3:41pm
Scott Hamilton

‘Jack5 Can you give us sample of what would be for you some ideal programming apart from your more usual redneck stuff ?’

He wants some more Hamilton, surely? http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/standing-room-only/audio/201781685/fragments-of-the-great-south-road I’m on again next Sunday after the walk
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December 13, 2015 3:43pm
Viking2

How disgraceful can Australians be?

‘I thought I was Australian’: Brisbane man on his deportation to Chile

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/75048088/i-thought-i-was-australian-brisbane-man-on-his-deportation-to-chile

No wonder their economy is going south.
Politicians who can behave in this manner have no moral fibre.
This must surely contravene something the UN says.
And God know I dislike that outfit enough.

Just awful behavoir.
Of course the Aussies got there under these rules so why would we be left wondering?
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December 13, 2015 4:16pm
Jack5

Re Scott’s 3.43….

Just listened to the link. Yes that would be better. Scott, don’t forget the von Tempsky collection at the Waikato Museum – his paintings, scrimshaw work, and his letters. You might also find out for us who, somewhere around there perhaps, who is making the von Tempsky Bowie knives that are being collected by knife aficianados around the world. These are said to be based on the Bowie knives, which with revolvers, were the hand-to-hand weapons of von Tempsky’s Forest Rangers.

Re the Stephieboys’ 1.04, talking of ex PM Shipley on the radio.

Sorry, Stephieboys, Shipley is on a level with “Farmer Jim” Bolger, IMHO. Yes Shipley was or is on the board of a China bank (or was it the bank’s NZ directorate?), but typically politicians like Shipley and Brash get directorships because of their political background and perceived influence. (In Brash’s case, there was his experience as Reserve Bank Governor, too.)

Did the interview on Sunday Morning mention that Shipley’s one of Mainzeal’s directors being sued for nearly $50 million by the company’s liquidator?

In the part of the interview I listened to, Shipley says that on boards she sits on she demands diversity reports (to check on the progress of women in the organisation and payment).

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/71987257/exmainzeal-directors-face-474m-lawsuit.html
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December 13, 2015 4:29pm
stephieboy

Reid (19,945 comments) says:
December 13th, 2015 at 1:45 pm

“Top Obama Appointee: “President Knowingly and Willingly Armed ISIS”

In the long turgid ramble of an article not one piece of factual evidence is forthcoming .

Maybe I missed something ? Pray tell me ?

Possibly Shawn Herles himself might assist as he appears to be increasingly like minded .
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December 13, 2015 5:44pm
Manolo

Cruz rises to the top in Iowa:
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-12/cruz-soars-to-front-of-the-pack-in-iowa-poll-trump-support-stays-flat-ii3p88rp

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz has surged ahead to become the latest front-runner in the campaign for the Iowa caucuses, dislodging Ben Carson and opening an impressive lead over a stalled Donald Trump, a Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register Iowa Poll shows.
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December 13, 2015 5:50pm
stephieboy

Manolo, of the insane options Ted Cruz is only marginally ahead of Trump.
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December 13, 2015 5:57pm
Nostradamus

Penny Bright gets nasty at The Standard:

Penny Bright
11 December 2015 at 7:20 pm

Have you ever BEEN a consultant for any of the legacy Auckland Councils, Auckland Council, any Auckland Council CCOs or in any capacity employed in that role for any central government department Sacha?

Research that I have done, if I have your surname correct, and you work in the field related to disability, shows, in my opinion, that is indeed the case.

If so, in my considered opinion, you have arguably a ‘conflict of interest’, as a private consultant/ contractor whom apparently does NOT want the books open, with details of spending available for public scrutiny?

Am I correct Sacha?

So – you prefer to try and undermine me personally, and my factual research, because, in my considered opinion, you apparently and arguably have something to hide regarding the spending of public monies on private sector consultants and contractors?

Sacha’s original point, which is the same point that Nookin made on Kiwiblog today, was that the Public Records Act doesn’t do what Penny says it does:

Sacha
10 December 2015 at 4:06 pm

As you have been advised here before (including linked evidence), the Public Records Act does not affect the *release* of information other than for archives over 25 years old. The OIA does. Don’t be a braying dunce.

So, Penny now targets Sacha and (on that thread) warned that he’s “skating on very thin ice” – an implied legal threat. Sacha was making valid points, in a respectful way, and this implied legal threat was completely unwarranted.

Penny is, in my considered opinion, unfit for public office.
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December 13, 2015 5:59pm
Manolo

The socialist crook threatens:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-12/maduro-seeks-to-strengthen-venezuela-military-forces-amid-crisis

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro ordered all military personnel working in public administration jobs to return to their units immediately, after the country’s opposition party earlier this month won a majority in congress for the first time in 16 years.
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December 13, 2015 6:16pm
nasska

I followed your link Nostra. I always thought that the retards commenting at The Standard would welcome Penny’s input but it seems that it’s not the case. Eg: Ropata @ 12 December 2015 at 12:46 am

….”you’re not an enemy Penny, just an embarrassment”…..

Such wisdom! Such discernment! 🙂
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December 13, 2015 6:17pm
stigie

Yes, they are just now starting to see her over at the Stranded for what she really is Nasska !~
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December 13, 2015 6:23pm
RF

Remember when Possum lady was being arrested and was crying and bellowing whilst being placed in the paddy wagon by the Police. From memory it was the occupy movement.

Well it’s going to happen again in the very near future when her house goes on the block. I used to think she was a harmless toothless old hag. However after reading her tripe about asperations for mayor she is an unnecessary cost to the Auckland rate payers. She does not have a dogs show of getting the job and is purely a bloody embarrassment. And no… This is not in a caring sort of way as she is a waste of space.
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December 13, 2015 6:44pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

This comment caught my eye:

Karen
11 December 2015 at 1:23 pm

Thanks for challenging the ridiculous claims of Penny Bright, Sacha. She may not take any notice, but it is useful for others reading the Standard.

Ridiculous claims indeed!
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December 13, 2015 6:46pm
publicwatchpuppy

Good Evening Kiwibloggers

My sandpit meeting went badly, I got mad, yelled at the children who aren’t sharing lollies properly and got into trouble with Daddy, TBH I may have been throwing a tanty when Daddy took me to the car!! I did yell a little…my bad

Oh Well least mean little David looked sad when I was taken away!

My day didn’t get any better seeing you all still being mean to Big Dog, I have told you before watchdogs (and one day watch-puppies!) ask questions, not answer them! it’s how we roll!
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December 13, 2015 7:05pm
Nostradamus

publicwatchpuppy:

I have told you before watchdogs (and one day watch-puppies!) ask questions, not answer them! it’s how we roll!

A google search for “dog” “obedience classes” and “Auckland” should do the trick!
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December 13, 2015 7:24pm
nasska

….”A google search for “dog” “obedience classes” and “Auckland” should do the trick!”….

Failing that a search for ‘vet’, ‘hydrophobia’ & ‘treatment’ may help.
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December 13, 2015 7:34pm
publicwatchpuppy

Nostradamus

For a man who has taken on a name synonymous with future predictions I would have expected you to realise that

““dog” “obedience classes” and “Auckland””

would never ever happen!!

we aren’t that kind of dogs! (or puppies)

All meant in a caring way of course!
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December 13, 2015 7:36pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@publicwatchpuppy

If you want to grow up into a BBB (big,beautiful bitch) then you will have to start some training.

Now’s the time to decide that you are not going to be a yappy wee thing……. you’ve got to channel your inner wolf….
You can be one of the pack; the leader of the pack; or (my fav.) a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
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December 13, 2015 7:52pm
Nookin

I do not generally visit the Standard but followed the links there today. It is difficult to conceive a political candidate who displays such arrogant and contemptuous disdain for the voting public.

I don’t suppose anyone will ever see any sort of humility from her, let alone an apology. Maybe Judge Bouchier will have some observations on that poiint.
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December 13, 2015 8:00pm
publicwatchpuppy

Ohhh Maggy I like you!

I tried to be leader of the pack today at the sandpit meeting but that didn’t go well.

Wool is itchy, I don’t like being itchy.

I like boats though, BigDog said she is a war-ship but I want to be a paddleboat.

Watchpuppypublic
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December 13, 2015 8:14pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@pwpuppy

Life is not all fun and games
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d1/9e/40/d19e4018c2ee4e01ed2f33f2c71dace3.jpg

One day you might have your very own puppies and you’ll need to teach them how to be boss of the sandpit.

Its time for you to start biting the meanies.
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December 13, 2015 8:33pm
nasska

Okay Maggy! Time to confess…..what have you done with Griff? Three threads devoted to climate crap today & he hasn’t made an appearance.

All fresh concrete pours in the vicinity of Kaiti Hill are sus. 🙂
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December 13, 2015 8:38pm
publicwatchpuppy

Puppies with puppies. You are a funny lady Maggy!

I thought we couldn’t bite. People always say that BigDog is all bark and no bite, isn’t that what I should do too?

puppypublicwatch
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December 13, 2015 8:41pm
Awww C-mon

He is celebrating with James Shaw!
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December 13, 2015 8:45pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@nasska

Its the compost pit you should suss out.
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December 13, 2015 9:14pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@puppywatch

Why do you think you have sharp teeth?

Its your job to rip flesh off limbs.
Stop pussyfooting around.
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December 13, 2015 9:23pm
starboard

Its very quiet here tonight..

*tumbleweed*..
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December 13, 2015 9:23pm
Manolo

One less after this week? Possibly.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/12/12/paul-hints-possible-end-campaign/7x5NZkzHnmRfMxwNL0AVbL/story.html
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