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November 18, 2015 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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AgentBallSack

To the best of my knowledge it hasn’t been mentioned here yet, but WhaleOil got ratfucked by Ben Rachinger pretty bad.

http://publicaddress.net/onpoint/the-whaledump-saga-scooby-doo-edition/

and

http://yournz.org/2015/11/15/whale-oil-jumping-the-rawshark/
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November 18, 2015 11:53am
waikatogirl

the French police have found a cell phone left behind that belonged to one of the terrorists.

Let’s hope it is a mine of information, and leads to all those involved in the heinous attacks.
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November 18, 2015 11:58am
LegioXII

I am however a great admirer General Francisco Franco and Augusto Pinochet.
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November 18, 2015 11:59am
Scott Hamilton

I think it’s simple, rather than simplistic, to decide that Hitler was indeed the epitome of evil, Legio. The Shoah was the most evil act in history. But of course the website which you’ve recommended to readers of this blog is staffed by people who deny the reality of the Holocaust, and blame Jews for starting World War Two. Do you share their perspective? If you do, then I’d suggest that you have no business posing as a defender of civilisation and freedom.
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November 18, 2015 12:00pm
AgentBallSack

waikatogirl you have been reading this blog long enough to know that it’s just a false flag 😉
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November 18, 2015 12:00pm
Nookin

If there are any passing logicians, couch jurists or armchair jury members wandering by, can you assist with the following train of thought?

Chris Cairns asserts, vehemently, that the discussions that he had with Brendan McCullum were innocuous discussions about spread betting and nothing more.

If that is the case, McCullum had no reason to report the discussions nor did he have any particular reason to make any observations to Stephen Fleming or whomsoever else he may have told about an approach by Chris Cairns.

Pownall QC says, however:
“McCullum and Vettori essentially tailored their evidence to escape a potential playing ban which could have affected the Cricket World Cup played on home soil this year,….”

The only reason why they would ever have faced a playing ban would be as a result of a failure to report an approach or some evidence of naughtiness which Pownall says never took place.

According to Mr Pownall, Mr McCullum’s train of thought when something like this
“Oh dear, Chris Cairns has just told me something completely innocuous. Indeed, I participated in a completely innocuous conversation that did not suggest any wrongdoing by any person at any time. Just in case Latif Modi gets the shits with Chris Cairns and takes it out on me, for whatever spurious reason, at some nebulous time in the future, I will tell a couple of colleagues that we did did in fact talk about something naughty and that Chris Cairns actually approached me. After all, this is entirely consistent with my reason for being with Chris Cairns in the first place – he telephoned me when I was with my mate Ricky Ponting and for some silly reason that I cannot now understand, I told Ricky that Chris Cairns wanted to make a business proposition. Later, when Mr Modi or even ICC get the shits with Chris Cairns, for whatever reason because, after all, he has certainly not crossed any lines with me, I can then fabricate a story about being solicited for recruitment and I can then promise to give perjured evidence in return for them not taking it out on me for doing nothing wrong which of course, I did not do (anything wrong that is).”

Is not there a flaw in this logic? If the conversation between McCullum and Cairns was wholly innocuous, would not McCullum have protected his position, impenetrably, by announcing to all and sundry that his conversation with Chris Cairns was wholly innocuous?

Of greater concern, is Pownall taking advice from Reid?
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November 18, 2015 12:03pm
LegioXII

Have you heard of the Holodomor SH?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
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November 18, 2015 12:03pm
Scott Hamilton

‘Have you heard of the Holodomor?’

Yes. What does it have to do with your decision to promote a website that denies the Holocaust and promotes Hitler as a great man?
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November 18, 2015 12:05pm
waikatogirl

Police have just made an arrest of a 40 year old for the murder of George Tairoa at Atiamuri.. George was the road worker gunned down as he held the roadworks Stop/Go sign.
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November 18, 2015 12:08pm
Scott Hamilton

‘I am however a great admirer General Francisco Franco’

The man who banned most of his country’s minority groups, like the Basques and the Catalans, from using their own languages? And you present yourself as a defender of European culture?
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November 18, 2015 12:09pm
LegioXII

SH, you claimed the Holocaust was the most evil act in history. The Holodomor disproves that claim. As to your opinion of the sources I use that is of no concern to me.
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November 18, 2015 12:11pm
LegioXII

The man who saved his country from communism, yes.

My turn. Are you liberal left?
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November 18, 2015 12:13pm
Scott Hamilton

‘As to your opinion of the sources I use that is of no concern to me’

So you’re not concerned about linking approvingly to Countercurrents, a website that denies the Holocaust, celebrates Hitler, claims Jews were behind the 9/11 attacks, and wishes the Confederacy had won the American Civil War?

I have to assume you’re not worried about advertising Countercurrents because you support the site’s perspectives.
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November 18, 2015 12:14pm
waikatogirl

ABS
waikatogirl you have been reading this blog long enough to know that it’s just a false flag
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Yep!
We can only hope the French do get a break and catch the scum who attacked and ran.
There is a huge rats nest of these idiots that needs bombing into the next world…
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November 18, 2015 12:14pm
Scott Hamilton

‘Are you liberal left?’

I suspect that, for an admirer of Franco and Hitler, almost everyone in New Zealand is liberal left.
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November 18, 2015 12:16pm
LegioXII

SH, I use many sources from a variety of perspectives. That does not mean I agree with everything written by a source. However as I am not inclined to give a rats ass about political correctness, I will likely be offending you on a regular basis.
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November 18, 2015 12:17pm
Scott Hamilton

‘I use many sources from a variety of perspectives’

But most people would not consider a neo-Nazi website a useful source on anything. Unless, of course, they were neo-Nazis. And given your denial that Hitler was evil and your enthusiasm for the anti-Semite Franco, I’m inclined to think you agree with the content of Countercurrents.
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November 18, 2015 12:21pm
waikatogirl

the Govt spends $55m on welfare for Tuhoe.
Tuhoe want to be responsible for the welfare of their tribe.

Of course, Tuhoe want the Govt to fund their attempt at getting their people into work. Apparently the work “involves building the Nation of Tuhoe”
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November 18, 2015 12:23pm
LegioXII

SH, I am not an admirer of Hitler. I think he was a puffed up fool, and his obsession with the Jews as a race was stupid.

The reason I asked about your politics was so I could know whether or not you are worthy of speaking to me. I do not converse with leftist slime.

And, to repeat, your opinion of my sources means nothing to me.
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November 18, 2015 12:24pm
Andrei

The “Holodomor” LegioXII is the historical revision of a famine that occurred in the Soviet Union in 1932 by people who for the most part did not live in the Soviet Union in 1932 but who served the Fascist invaders during WW2 and because of their status at the end of WW2 were able to emigrate to the USA and invent a Ukrainian history, which includes the so called “Holodmor” based upon a real famine

You see before the end of WW2 it was agreed that citizens of the USSR in 1939 outside the USSR in 1945 would be returned to the USSR and those inside the USSR in 1945 who were not citizens of the USSR in 1939 would be repatriated to the West.

A large movement of people was the result particularly as the Borders of the USSR, Poland, Romania, Hungary and Czechoslovakia were all redrawn in 1945
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November 18, 2015 12:26pm
kowtow

“I think it’s simple, rather than simplistic, to decide that Hitler was indeed the epitome of evil, Legio. The Shoah was the most evil act in history”

Hitler and his policies were undoubtedly evil. However it is possible to argue that Stalin and his policies were even more evil.
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November 18, 2015 12:28pm
mikenmild

I’m glad that Kiwiblog is still attracting fans of the calibre of LegioXII and yesterday’s Witness. They are first-class nut-jobs and promise to outshine even Reid, Shawn, EAD and Ugly Truth.
Oh, and Andrei. Andrei is still in the running for Kiwiblog nutjob of the year with his latest effort on genocide denial.
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November 18, 2015 12:30pm
Inandout

A Muslim named Ali is speaking with Danny Watson and says we are Islamaphobic and he is ‘scared’ of our attitudes. Good try Ali, we are now aware of the ways you lot try and get our sympathy, and it won’t work anymore. If you are scared, emigrate.
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November 18, 2015 12:30pm
Scott Hamilton

‘Hitler’s obsession with the Jews as a race was stupid’

And yet you recommend to us, as a source of valuable information, a website that is just as obsessed with Jews, and blames them for all the ills of the 21st century world, and you praise Franco, who was also obsessed with Jews, as a great man?

Do you think the Holocaust happened?
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November 18, 2015 12:30pm
LegioXII

The Paris Terrorist Attacks and the Future of Europe

The Islamization of Europe will only bring more violence against non-Muslim Europeans. This will happen via three mechanisms. First, Muslims are more criminal than non-Muslims. This has been thoroughly documented across Europe. Government documents and private reports show that Muslims commit crime at higher rates than natives in England, France, Denmark, Belgium (Roth 2014 page 408), Norway, the Netherlands (Roth 2014 page 408), Australia, and Canada. Most strikingly, though they take up less than 8% of the French population, nearly 70% of the French prison population is Muslim. Though the data isn’t easily accessed, there is no reason to think that the picture is any different in Germany, the United States, or any other country that is taking in large numbers of Muslim immigrants.

The third mechanism by which Islam will increase violence in Europe is through terrorism like what we are seeing in Paris. Due to ancient religious divisions and theological disputes, Muslims hate a lot of people, including other Muslims. And Muslims seem especially keen on engaging in terrorism because of such disputes. That is why, as shown by the Global Terrorism Index, Muslim countries have the highest rates of terrorism on earth. Of course, Muslims also commit more than their fair share of terrorism in non-Islamic countries. For instance, according to FBI statistics, between 1980 and 2005 Muslims accounted for 6% of all acts of terrorism committed in the U.S. For most of this period Muslims made up less than half of one percent of the general population, suggesting that Muslims were roughly 12 times as likely to be engaged in terrorism as non Muslims.

Finally, I think it is important to note that this radical change to the character of Europe is being done without the consent of Europeans. Multiple international polling organizations have shown that Europeans in almost every major country are more likely to think that that immigration levels should be decreased than to think that they should be maintained or increased. As it stands, the political class doesn’t care what Europeans want. For goodness’ sake, in Germany there are villages which are being sent Muslim refugee populations that are more than 6 times larger than their own native population!

Europeans need to make it clear that they won’t stand for this any longer, and they need to force European governments to work in the interest of Europeans rather than Muslims who want nothing to do with the European way of life. The Muslims need to return to their own countries and Europe needs to seal its borders. If it does not, we can only expect nights like last night to become ever more common.’

http://therightstuff.biz/2015/11/14/the-paris-terrorist-attacks-and-the-future-of-europe/
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November 18, 2015 12:32pm
Padriv Ustoev

Left vs Right is an old paradigm used by those who are out of touch with the reality of current discourses in politics.

Right vs Left is an American thing anyway. The real way that thinking is lining up in modern politics is Progressive vs Conservative. And before any couch experts jump up. Yes that is how it works. And yes you can be a conservative libertarian and a progressive authoritarian.

Like stephieboy. Progressive limp wristed rhetoric coupled with telling everyone how to live their life and what they must and must no accept.

So lets drop this right vs left and use the correct nomenclature.
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November 18, 2015 12:34pm
LegioXII

‘Right vs Left is an American thing anyway.’

French to be precise.

If understood in their true meanings left vs right has value. But those cuckservatives who claim to be right, like Merkel, should be honest and say that they are in reality leftists.
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November 18, 2015 12:38pm
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

LegioXII (33 comments) says:
November 18th, 2015 at 12:32 pm
The Paris Terrorist Attacks and the Future of Europe

The Islamization of Europe will only bring more violence against non-Muslim Europeans. This will happen via three mechanisms. First, Muslims are more criminal than non-Muslims.

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In my homeland of Sweeden, there has been a crime wave committed by muslim immigrants from the ME & Africa. The socilalist govt has opened the doors to muslim refugees who bring rape as part of their cultural baggage. The sweedish media has gone to great lengths to not report the cultural identity of the rapeists even going so far as to alter pixels to make the darker skined rapeists look lighter skinned. Like France and Germany, the non-muslim culture is being bred out by the influx of muslim immigrants, I fear Sweeden will be an Islamic state within the next 15 years.
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November 18, 2015 12:42pm
waikatogirl

The new safety law against the deportees back in NZ tomorrow has just been passed in Parliament.
The Greens voted against it.
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November 18, 2015 12:44pm
LegioXII

Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes (479 comments) says:
November 18th, 2015 at 12:42 pm

A revealing post. Many people, especially ignorant leftist slime, are in denial about the reality of Muslims and their so-called “culture.”

The elites who have forced this abomination on the peoples of Europe without their consent must be held to account. Firing squads or public hangings for example.
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November 18, 2015 12:49pm
Scott Hamilton

For someone who says he doesn’t share Hitler’s obsession with Jews, Legio, you sure seem to spend a lot of time looking at websites run by anti-semites. I followed your latest link and found a site full of nasty jokes about the Holocaust and plugs for the anti-semitic musician Gilad Atzmon: http://therightstuff.biz/2015/05/22/families-of-holocaust-survivors-share-their-stories-at-chapman/
http://therightstuff.biz/tag/gilad-atzmon/

Why do you read these sites?
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November 18, 2015 12:50pm
LegioXII

SH, until you reveal your political loyalties, further communications from you will be ignored.
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November 18, 2015 12:52pm
rangitoto

Manolo: “French and European authorities made 238 arrests in 2014 on terrorism-related charges, according to data from Europol, the European Union’s central police. That’s the most in the economic bloc, followed by Spain and the United Kingdom, which arrested 145 individuals and 132 individuals, respectively.”

Nothing to worry about. Just a few lone wolves. They would even change their ways if we just had a chat to them like Mr Corbyn says.
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November 18, 2015 12:55pm
mikenmild

Sorry, Legio. As I explained to Witless yesterday, you don’t get to make the rules on Kiwiblog. Here’s how it works:
1. Your crazy comments are posted to entertain the sane
2. Your crazy comments will be rebutted whether you like it or not
3. Your refusal to engage with the arguments of other Kiwibloggers will just make your comments appear weak and unsupported, which of course they already are.
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November 18, 2015 12:56pm
sam green

Ah the rabid racist rancid right wing ……
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November 18, 2015 12:57pm
Scott Hamilton

I think you’ve revealed your political loyalties pretty clearly, Legio X II. Here are some quotes from the site you’ve just recommended to readers of Kiwiblog:

‘Our whole lives we’ve been taught to regard our history as Eurocentric and White Supremacist, yet the history of the last few centuries has revolved entirely around the jews making everything about themselves and their problems.’

‘To hold onto jewish identity is to be complicit in a system of universal jewish supremacy and oppression.’

‘Jews develop controlled opposition to turn all world events into an internal feud between jews and deflect anti-Semitic critiques’
http://therightstuff.biz/2015/07/13/jews-explaining-jews-vol-ii-controlled-opposition/

I’m not surprised that you find it difficult to defend this stuff, which could easily have been come from ISIS.
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November 18, 2015 12:57pm
LegioXII

‘you don’t get to make the rules on Kiwiblog’

I most certainly get to make the rules as to who I do or do not communicate with.

And your political loyalties are?

SH is clearly frightened to answer that question. What about you?
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November 18, 2015 12:58pm
mikenmild

And your political loyalties are?

Thanks for asking. I’m a left-libertarian, but I’m not sure what you mean by ‘political loyalties’. I’m not a member of any political party if that’s what you mean.
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November 18, 2015 1:01pm
LegioXII

So you are leftist slime then mikenmild. Thank you for answering. Further communications from you will be ignored. You are not worthy of my time.
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November 18, 2015 1:03pm
AgentBallSack

mikenmild is our tame lefty public servant who we alternately flagellate and congratulate at our whim. Also known for his killer verse.
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November 18, 2015 1:05pm
mikenmild

That’s fine Legio – go and chat with your own ego, then. Expect your stupid comments to be ridiculed.
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November 18, 2015 1:05pm
Padriv Ustoev

It stems from the french revolution hystoricaly, but American are the only ones that still predominantly use it when discussing politics.

That and peasants that don’t read books. Like stephie.
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November 18, 2015 1:07pm
waikatogirl

Johah Lomu has died. It has been confirmed by the All Blacks doctor. Jonah had just returned from the World Cup
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November 18, 2015 1:07pm
mikenmild

ABS
Legio might be deserving of his very own limerick, but he’ll have to earn it with some world-class insane comments. I think he’s up to that, though.
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November 18, 2015 1:07pm
mikenmild

That’s very sad news, waikatogirl.
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November 18, 2015 1:08pm
Manolo

My admiration and respect for a true giant of rugby. Jonah Lomu, RIP.
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November 18, 2015 1:11pm
Awww C-mon

A new dickhead has appeared, Legio the counterbalance to the equally fucked in the head gobby

Popcorn and Coke at the ready, this has potential!
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November 18, 2015 1:12pm
Manolo

One thing is certain: this individual is not stephieboy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3321962/If-don-t-like-country-f-did-come-Impassioned-speech-Muslim-decries-ISIS-terrorists-trying-impose-Sharia-law-West.html

Video has emerged of an impassioned speech by a Muslim decrying ISIS terrorists for trying to impose Sharia law on the West.

The man launches in to a three-minute tirade and lashes out at violent extremists saying: ‘If you don’t like this country, why the f*** did you come?’
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November 18, 2015 1:16pm
waikatogirl

yes it is Milky, I admit to a lump in my throat.
I saw him speaking on TV recently as a rugby ambassador at the RWC. He was articulate and spoke with true meaning and didn’t need to make a lot of noise to get his message across. He’d come a long way from that shy boy who couldn’t look into the camera or string two words together.

Sympathy to his family and his rugby family.
A great loss to his many NZ and international rugby fans.

“Uh uh, Lomu!” will always be favourite memory of many who watched him play.
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November 18, 2015 1:18pm
Keeping Stock

RIP Jonah – we’ve all watched his transition from a painfully shy young Tongan boy to an articulate ambassador for rugby. The documentary Sky showed just before RWC2015 of him returning to South Africa was superb, and it was hard not to get emotional at his reunion with Motor Neurone Disease-stricken former Springbok Joost van der Westhuizen.

40 is far too young to die. My thoughts, prayers and aroha are with his family, especially his wife and sons. For a few short years he was an absolute rugby colossus, and one can only imagine how good he might have been had Nephrotic Syndrome not intervened.

Rest peacefully Jonah, and thanks for the memories.
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November 18, 2015 1:32pm
KevinH

Jonah Lomu was a gentleman and a great ambassodor for the great game of rugby. He was a modern legend for the sport but was a humble man who gave his time willingly and unselfishly to promote the game of rugby. R.I.P Jonah.
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November 18, 2015 1:37pm
James Stephenson

Thanks for asking. I’m a left-libertarian,

That’s an oxymoron…with an emphasis on…
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November 18, 2015 1:44pm
mikenmild

Just going by the political compass results, James. Where do you sit?
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
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November 18, 2015 1:49pm
dime

The word legend gets used too frequently.

But Jonah Lomu was/is a legend.

Not only a great rugby player who changed the game, he was a great bloke.

I havent been this sad in a long time.

I hope there is a state funeral.

R.I.P big man
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November 18, 2015 2:01pm
Manolo

More “moderate” Muslims:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3322708/Turkey-supporters-boo-minute-s-silence-victims-Paris-attacks-prior-team-s-friendly-against-Greece-Istanbul.html

Chants of ‘Allahu Akbar’ were reportedly heard in Istanbul as some Turkey fans shamefully booed a pre-match minute’s silence for the victims of the Paris attacks.

But the game was tarnished before it even started as a video emerged suggesting some of the Turkish faithful were voicing their dissent towards tributes for the 129 victims who were killed in last Friday’s atrocities in Paris.
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November 18, 2015 2:02pm
Keeping Stock

Looks like either big bruv or Longknives has been in the house since 1.07pm. Every comment on Jonah Lomu’s death down-ticked.
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November 18, 2015 2:12pm
stephieboy

Given the updicks that Legio X11 receives here with his brazenly anti Jewish slime we readily can conclude that those Aye sayers are closeted Neo Nazis !
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November 18, 2015 2:16pm
Longknives

Very sad news about Jonah Lomu’s death- His form in 1995 was phenomenal and he is a true legend of the game..
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November 18, 2015 2:18pm
Keeping Stock

From Idiot/Savant, reflective of the caring, sensitive political Left:

Idiot/Savant
‏@norightturnnz Rugby player dead. John Key to immediately return from Vietnam to urgently rub himself against the corpse.

Anyone want to bet that this tweet won’t get any media attention, yet if Cameron Slater said the same thing about a leftie politician, it’d be front-page news?
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November 18, 2015 2:20pm
mikenmild

Jonah Lomu
RIP
Changed the game.
When he burst onto the scene, he had everyone talking about him.
We can argue about who has been the greatest player, but Lomu had the greatest impact on the game.
He will remain the standard against which successors, like Savea, will be measured.
I’ll treasure especially the memories of his few years at Westpac Stadium for the Lions and Hurricanes.
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November 18, 2015 2:23pm
mikenmild

There seems to be a persistent downticker of the comments about Jonah Lomu. Come on, say it out loud.
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November 18, 2015 2:27pm
mikenmild

This is nice. Stuff has put up a black no 11 jersey on the home page.
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November 18, 2015 2:28pm
Padriv Ustoev

@stephie

Updicks? You mean “upticks” you peasant. Or was that Fraudean slip on the keyboard?
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November 18, 2015 2:33pm
blazeoflight

@mike

I noticed that too. Just another Kiwiblog wanker.

Life was both kind and cruel to Jonah. He deserved better if only for the joy he created for people when in full stride.

RIP.
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November 18, 2015 2:33pm
blazeoflight

Padriv

I think stephie meant upDICKS.
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November 18, 2015 2:34pm
stephieboy

Jonah Lomu creates carnage vs British Isles at RWC 1995.

Inlcluding that ever so famous call by Keith Quinn of Jonah ripping the English defenders to pieces,

ah, ah oh … oh Jonah Lomu !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLTxcyarfjw

RIP You Champ !
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November 18, 2015 2:48pm
starboard

Fantastic. Hit ’em hard, annihilate the scum from the face of the earth then do it a second time to make sure.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/74142423/paris-attacks-france-russia-strike-islamic-state-in-syria
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November 18, 2015 2:57pm
fernglas

Jonah’s kidney problem was as a result of untreated strep throat in childhood. I would have liked to see him as an ambassador for medical treatment amongst the South Auckland community from which he came. Sadly he won’t get that chance. RIP, Jonah.
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November 18, 2015 3:02pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

RIP Jonah Lomu. New Zealand loses one of its greats.
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November 18, 2015 3:13pm
Witness

RIP Jonah. You will be remembered.
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November 18, 2015 3:16pm
Witness

I am sure they are a minority, but there are some very sad individuals here. Some who are only here to abuse other human beings, and some who think down ticking tributes to Jonah is fun. I am normally a fairly tolerant person, but these people need to get a life.
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November 18, 2015 3:26pm
starboard

stiffyboy is the serial downticker. Nasty, bitter, angry, short, small genitalia, ugly, dresses funny..a real winner.
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November 18, 2015 3:39pm
stephieboy

Terrific Interview with Keith Quinn reflecting on Jonah Lomu’s incredibly amazing Rugy career and a tremendous ambassador for the game .He achieved cult status among the young in France, Argentine and elelewhere Would you believe Chile too.
Adored and much loved here of course .

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoons/audio/201779250/jonah-lomu-keith-quinn
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November 18, 2015 3:40pm
mikenmild

Nasty, bitter, angry, short, small genitalia, ugly, dresses funny

Classic psychological projection…
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November 18, 2015 3:41pm
stephieboy

mm, no more simply a sicko !

Urban Dictionary ,

Sicko-

“A person that has mental problems. A person that is sick or has a polluted mind.”
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November 18, 2015 3:44pm
starboard

Hows the bum MM..g-hole working overtime last night ? Ya filthy begga.
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November 18, 2015 3:52pm
LegioXII

‘stephieboy (8,138 comments) says:
November 18th, 2015 at 3:44 pm

Sicko-

“A person that has mental problems. A person that is sick or has a polluted mind.” ‘

A perfect description of the leftist slime who support Muslim immigration.
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November 18, 2015 3:53pm
stigie

Is Stiffyboy the downticker you reckon Starbored, what about the comment from him below yours ole flog ?
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November 18, 2015 3:55pm
Longknives

That’s a great vid at 2.48 Stephieboy- It speak volumes of how phenomenal Lomu was in his prime that he was the absolute star of that mighty ’95 RWC team that also had the likes of Zinzan Brooke and Jeff Wilson..
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November 18, 2015 3:57pm
starboard

speak english stigie not arabic, what the fuck are you talking about.
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November 18, 2015 4:02pm
Manolo

Hackers vs animals:
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/isis-calls-anonymous-%E2%80%98idiots%E2%80%99-in-response-to-hacker-group%E2%80%99s-declaration-of-%E2%80%98total-war%E2%80%99/ar-BBn6u2J?ocid=mailsignoutmd

The Islamic State militant group (ISIS) released a statement on Monday responding to Anonymous’s declaration of “total war,” calling the hacker group “idiots” and offering guidance to pro-ISIS supporters to protect against cyber attacks.
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November 18, 2015 4:03pm
mikenmild

Make it a bit simpler for him, stigie…
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November 18, 2015 4:03pm
starboard

thats what I asked for..thanks MilkMohammad
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November 18, 2015 4:04pm
LegioXII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoaGMb8p_PY
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November 18, 2015 4:07pm
stephieboy

starboard, you have a broad range of issues to deal with like Legio X11,

Muslims, Jews and now apparently Tongans !

Now who else ?

Legio X11, some nordic babble ?
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November 18, 2015 4:10pm
Nostradamus

Stephieboy:

you have a broad range of issues to deal with

Could you show us your shiny badge that says you’re from the government and here to help?
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November 18, 2015 4:19pm
LegioXII

‘Legio X11, some nordic babble ?’

So stephieboy, who just accused other people of being bigots, is bigoted towards Nordic culture and racist towards Nordic people.

Perhaps his tolerant, inclusive multiculturalism only extends to Muslims who rape 11 year old girls?
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November 18, 2015 4:22pm
Manolo

Will we see the day stephieboy confesses and finally admits he is a practising Muslim?
Why is he so ashamed of declaring his faith in Allah and Mohammad?
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November 18, 2015 4:25pm
starboard

Stiffyboy seems to have disappeared. Probably down at the mosque on all fours talking to the wee man in his head..the pedophile Mohammad .
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November 18, 2015 4:38pm
Reid

Putin Outed ISIS’s G20 Financiers — But Not a Single Western Media Outlet Has Reported It
A revealing silence from the “free” western press

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/putin-outed-isiss-g20-financiers-not-single-western-media-outlet-reported-it/ri11231

And the sheeple go:

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Aren’t sheeple stoooooooooooooooooooooooooopid.

Imagine that you despised your brother-in-law and wanted to kill him. But you didn’t have the guts to do it yourself so you hired a hit-man to do the job for you.

Would you still be guilty of murder?

You’re darn right, you would be. So let’s apply this same rule to US foreign policy: Would it be just as wrong to invade a country, kill its people and topple its government with militants that you funded, armed and trained as it would be with your own US troops?

Yep, it sure would be. So while some people might think that it was smarter for Obama to use a proxy-army in Syria instead of US soldiers, morally or legally speaking, there’s really no difference between what he did and what Bush did in Iraq. A US invasion is a US invasion. Period. It doesn’t matter if you use for-hire killers or your own guys. It’s all the same. Obama is just as guilty as Bush.

Why does it matter?

It matters because Obama’s Syrian policy has resulted in the deaths of 250,000 people and created 11 million refugees. That’s more refugees than Iraq. And the funny thing is, the media doesn’t even talk about it, in fact, there’s not one major media outlet in the entire country that has stated what everyone knows to be the obvious truth; that the United States is 100 percent responsible for the refugee crisis. 100 percent! Assad had nothing to do with it. US policy and our buck-passing president are entirely to blame.

The point is, the Democrats pursue the same policies as the GOP with some minor-tweaking at the edges. So if the hard-charging, but dimwitted Republicans decide to drag the country to war on a pack of lies, then the shifty Dems will try to be smarter about it; they’ll try to micromanage the public relations, preempt antiwar marches in US cities and avoid US casualties at all cost.

Obama has succeeded in all of these things. There’s nobody in the streets protesting, the media has convinced most people that Syria is in the throes of a civil war, and there have been no flag-draped coffins returning to Andover Airbase because their are no US boots on the ground. For all practical purposes, the Democrats have created our first completely invisible war. That’s quite an accomplishment, don’t you think?

The only glitch is that, after 4 years, Obama’s plan for toppling Bashar al Assad has failed. True, he’s destroyed the world’s oldest civilization and condemned its people to a hardscrabble existence for the next 20 years or so, but he’s failed in his primary objectives; to remove Assad, partition the country, and secure the territory he needs for vital pipeline corridors. So, you see, all the sneaky, underhanded methods the Democrats have used to secretly prosecute their war on Syria have backfired because the US is going to lose the war anyway.

Why is the US going to lose the war?

Because the Russian-led coalition has stopped Washington dead-in-its-tracks and sent the terrorist vermin fleeing for cover, that’s why…

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/grandmaster-putin-beats-uncle-sam-his-own-game/ri11205#
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November 18, 2015 4:44pm
Longknives

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11547368

For Fuck’s Sake- A ‘Man’ has not fucking given birth.
It’s a woman who, despite wrecking herself with hormones,drugs and surgery, will ALWAYS be a woman.
You cannot change your gender. It is Scientifically impossible.
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November 18, 2015 4:57pm
Reid

Do these guys sound like durka durka’s or do they sound like Special Forces?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paris-attack-witness-says-black-6834503

That’s unpossible, bleat the silly ole sheeple.

Aren’t sheeple stooooooooooooooooooooooooopid.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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November 18, 2015 5:00pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Auckland City Council is sending a delegation of 5 to the Climate Change Conference in Paris.
Len Brown to lead it
Sir Bob Harvey, Cr Wayne Walker, and 2 staff members to tag along.
http://ourauckland.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/articles/news/2015/11/much-to-learn-at-global-climate-change-conference/
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November 18, 2015 5:04pm
LegioXII

It is an observable truth that those who most loudly preach tolerance are always the most intolerant of people.

This truth can be observed by looking at stephieboy’s and mikenmild’s posts both today and yesterday.
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November 18, 2015 5:04pm
blazeoflight

The Grand Mufti of Australia has ruffled some feathers by…telling the truth

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/muslim-community-distances-itself-from-grand-mufti-dr-ibrahim-abu-mohammeds-comments-on-paris-terror-attacks/story-fni0cx12-1227611449776

Summary: the causes of terrorism include (Western) racism, Islamophobia, oppression for ‘security’, duplicitous foreign policies and military interventions (in the ME)

I guess the truth hurts, huh.
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November 18, 2015 5:09pm
mikenmild

Aww shucks, Legion, it’s so nice that you care.
Have you got any more neo-Nazi links for us to snort at?
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November 18, 2015 5:11pm
Left Right and Centre

Four tries against England RWC 1995 semi-final. Thanks Jonah and the All Blacks.
Rugby superstar icon. Tragic health story. Well regarded gentleman. Big heart. Father. Proud All Black.

A great New Zealander.
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November 18, 2015 5:13pm
blazeoflight

More balanced commentary:

The attacks in Paris were carried out by criminals, gangsters who were able to get their hands on weapons in order to kill and terrorize unsuspecting innocent people. However, horrible as they were, the crimes they committed do not compare to the horrors that are planned, financed and executed by the governments of the US, Britain, France, Germany and Israel in Arab countries.

http://ahtribune.com/world/europe/paris-attacks/146-it-is-impossible-not-to-love-paris.html
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November 18, 2015 5:19pm
LegioXII

Muslims are raping 11 year old girls in the UK and slaughtering hundreds of innocents in Paris and the Grand Poobah of Oz is whining about Islamaphobia.

What a fucktard.
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November 18, 2015 5:19pm
LegioXII

blazeofstupidity, here is the reason for the Islamaphobia your Grand Poobah is whining about.

‘Bilal Skaf (Arabic: بلال سكاف‎) (born 14 September 1981 in Sydney, New South Wales) is an Australian serial gang rapist who led groups of Lebanese Australian men who committed gang rape attacks against women in Sydney in 2000.

For his crimes, Skaf is serving a 31-year prison sentence, and will be eligible for parole in 2033. He was originally sentenced to 55 years with a 40-year non-parole period,[1] but that was modified several times upon appeal.

He is the brother of Mohammed Skaf, also a gang rape attacker serving 32 years’ jail for his part in the attacks.[12] Bilal and Mohammed are the sons of Mustapha Skaf and Baria Skaf who immigrated to Australia from Lebanon.’

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilal_Skaf

I guess the truth hurts, huh.
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