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Harriet

“….French governmental and political leaders have spoken fittingly and acted appropriately on the issue of the calls for boycott of Israel. In May 2012, French President-elect Francois Hollande considered BDS illegal, and actions that did not serve the cause of peace. Prime Minister Manuel Valls has said on June 7, 2015, “There is not and there will be no boycott of Israel.” Even Marine Le Pen, leader of the Front National, is reported to have said on July 14, 2015 that she would not accept as members of her party anyone who had anti-Semitic opinions or who supported a boycott of Israel. She characterized BDS as “racist.”.”

NZ does it differently – the Prime Minister makes you Immigration Minister if you talk like a skinhead. 😎
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November 14, 2015 8:02am
Tauhei Notts

Happy 67th Prince Charles.
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November 14, 2015 8:02am
Awww C-mon

Edwards shows his colours once and for all!!

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11544999

Question, do your non-political friends and family read and buy this shit?
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November 14, 2015 8:03am
jasonh

Happy birthday Charlie ?
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November 14, 2015 8:03am
jasonh

One less douchebag in the world. Jihadi “John” is dead
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November 14, 2015 8:04am
EAD

Want to know why Sweden is being destroyed?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/11992479/How-Sweden-the-most-open-country-in-the-world-was-overwhelmed-by-migrants.html

Meet Barbara Lerner Spectre and her revealing interview with IBA news:

https://youtu.be/MFE0qAiofMQ
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November 14, 2015 8:11am
stephieboy

I’ve decided from time to time bring updates about the Kurdish theatre of war against ISIS as there are the ones who appear to have the only the balls and steel and nerve to take the fighting back to to ISIS with a measure of success Also the Australians and Minster of Defence Gerry Brownlee report improvements in the ability of their Iraqi trainees to fight back .
In the following report the Kurds claim to have taken Sinjar from ISIS significant because of the enslaved and murdered the Yazidi community there ,

“Peshmerga forces enter Sinjar in fight against Isis”

Kurdish leader declares Pershmerga fighters have retaken northern Iraqi town but US coalition spokesman issues more cautious statement
Earlier, the Kurdistan regional security council said forces had entered Sinjar from all directions to begin clearing the town of Isis militants, seizing key buildings in the process. Isis fighters were “defeated and on the run”, it added. A Kurdish flag was raised in the town centre after the forces encountered minimal resistance.

Heavy bursts of gunfire could be heard in the town as militants descended the hill overlooking Sinjar from the north, some with rocket-propelled grenades on their shoulders, witnesses said.
“We promised, we have liberated Sinjar,” Barzani said. “It’s time for the Yazidi girls to raise their heads up. Revenge has been taken for them.”
Sinjar was seized 15 months ago by Isis forces, who massacred or enslaved the local Yazidi community and ousted other minorities from the Nineveh plains….”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/13/peshmerga-forces-sinjar-isis-oust-gunfire-kurdish
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November 14, 2015 8:13am
Andrei

Awww C-mon if you go to Saudi Arabia and get caught with alcohol you will be flogged – it is the law there

If you go to Malaysia and other SE Asian countries and smuggle drugs you will be hung – it is the law in those places

If you go to Singapore and tag public or private property you will be caned – it is the law there

If you go to Australia and commit crimes after serving your sentence you will be deported – it is the law there

And funnily enough in New Zealand we also deport offenders to their homelands after they have completed their sentences – because it is the law here as well
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November 14, 2015 8:14am
publicwatchdog

Who are Cameron Partners – one of the two organisations commissioned to write reports recommending the privatisation of Auckland (Supercity for the 1%) assets?

“Welcome to Cameron Partners

Cameron Partners is a leading New Zealand investment banking firm providing M&A and corporate finance advisory services.

Our clients receive the attention of senior, experienced bankers operating from our Auckland and Wellington offices.

Our clients are in New Zealand and offshore and span listed and unlisted corporates, private equity funds, entrepreneurs and public sector organisations.

The common theme is that our clients seek market leading transaction execution and advisory services in the New Zealand market.

Cameron Partners is the New Zealand global alliance partner of Rothschild, one of the world’s leading investment banking houses with offices in 33 countries.”

I’m off to my fifth international anti-corruption conference tomorrow – where I shall be exposing whose interests have been served by this, in my view, corrupt corporate coup, this forced amalgamation of seven Councils in the Auckland region, and their replacement by seven ‘Council’ (CORPORATE) Controlled Organisations (CCOs).

We the people had NO say in this forced Auckland amalgamation.

We the people of Auckland, have been under direct corporate control for the last five years.

Billion$ of public monies are being transformed into private profit through the contracting out of Council services and regulatory functions to multi layers of private sector consultants, contractors and sub-contractors.

Yet – the ‘books’ are NOT open, and the public are not being given the ‘devilish detail’ explaining where EXACTLY where this public money is being spent, invested or borrowed.

While I’m at this Australian Public Sector Anti-Corruption Conference, I’ll be seeking to make contact with independent, professional forensic accountants / auditors.

Because when I’m elected Mayor of Auckland, I won’t have a team of ‘spin doctors’ attached to the Mayoral Office – but a team of independent, professional forensic accountants / auditors – who will go through the books with a fine tooth comb, and find out where every dollar of public money is being spent, borrowed and invested.

The ‘Rule of Law’ regarding the public’s LAWFUL rights to ‘open, transparent and democratically accountable’ local government in Auckland WILL be implemented and enforced – from the Mayoral Office.

For this 2016 Auckland Mayoral campaign – (unlike the 2010 and 2013 campaigns) I WILL have a team ‘on the ground’, and those who genuinely want to take back our Auckland region from what in my opinion, is corrupt corporate control, will be welcome to join.

This will be a full-on campaign against neo-liberal Rogernomics.

It’s time for the public majority to benefit from OUR public monies, and wrest back control of our assets, our resources and our communities from corporate control!

After 30 years of this crap – it’s ABOUT TIME!

Penny Bright

‘Anti- corruption / anti-privatisation Public Watchdog’

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate
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November 14, 2015 8:14am
billmurray

The attack on John Key by Kelvin Davis in the hallway of parliament was a cowardly attack designed to show him up in front of the media, Davis should be charged with assault. The debating chamber is where these matters are raised. Davis is now playing the race card, saying he is a Maori and that is how they do matters like this. He is staring to show to me that he is a pathetic bully of a man. Shame, shame, shame.
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November 14, 2015 8:18am
Andrei

Yes Penny “Privatization of Public assets”especially those that are fundamental to the well being of the community that owns them is case of theft by the elites

One of the most egregious cases occurred in Bolivia under a President who actually lived in Miami who privatized the water, sold to a US company

And then they passed a law making it illegal for people to collect rainwater forcing them to use the public water supply and pay the American company for it

This lead to the Bolivians taking their country back and the current leader Evo Morales who represents the interests of Bolivians and not the Multi Nationals is called an “ëvil dictator” etc as a result.

But for now he hangs in there
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November 14, 2015 8:24am
Griff

Yip EAD jews have a leading role.
like
Albert Einstein.
The dominant religion here is Christendom.
Jesus was a Jew.

We had your politics rise to prominence once in the world that was enough.

Why dont you go find the rock you crawled from under and get back there.
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November 14, 2015 8:28am
Harriet

“……Billion$ of public monies are being transformed into private profit through the contracting out of Council services and regulatory functions to multi layers of private sector consultants, contractors and sub-contractors….”

Penny – why don’t you just vote for smaller govt – and in that way the ‘rich pricks’ get less – and the poor get to keep more! 😎
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November 14, 2015 8:32am
fernglas

What’s your point about Cameron Partners, Penny? Are you for or against them? Not much point in sharing information with us if it has no context.
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November 14, 2015 8:36am
stephieboy

EAD, this is what Barbara Lerner actually said,

“Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive”

— Barbara Lerner Spectre, IBA-News, 2010.

Firstly it’s simply an opinion piece that Neo Nazis and National Socialists ( read Neo Nazi ? ) like you have seized ,quote mined and taken it of context and distorted .Of course it has done the rounds especially on Anti Semetic and anti Jewish blogs and web sites like Stormfront.

Now where is her reference to “Christian “ civilisation and of course Websites like Stormfront and other neo Nazi and conspiracy ones are patently anti Christian ! And where does she actually say Jews are hated because of their role in promoting multiculturalism ?

https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2010/09/28/barbara-lerner-spectre-video-lots-of-comments-little-sense/
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November 14, 2015 8:39am
Souvlaki

The shameless Labour party stooge, Audrey Young writing after overdosing on the Koolaid again in this mornings rag.She has little insight and even less analytical ability. Lets hope she gets to read yesterdays post on Kiwiblog @ 6.58 pm. I had little regard for her previously, but this time she has really lost the plot though….exposing her prejudices & biases in the most overt manner.
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November 14, 2015 8:42am
publicwatchdog

Instead of spending hundreds of thousands of public monies on private sector ‘independent’ reports – why doesn’t Auckland Council ensure that the Public Records Act 2005 is implemented and enforced and citizens and ratepayers are told EXACTLY where public monies are being spent?

How can you check for ‘cost-effectiveness’ of public spending when you don’t know where exactly the costs fall?

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
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November 14, 2015 8:46am
Captain Mainwaring

“How can you check for ‘cost-effectiveness’ of public spending when you don’t know where exactly the costs fall?”

When you do know the costs of trying to recover unpaid rates from rate-dodgers, why don’t you apportion the costs to the offender instead of expecting honest ratepayers to foot the bill? And get on with it quickly.
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November 14, 2015 9:02am
Harriet

“….NZ does it differently – the Prime Minister makes you Immigration Minister if you talk like a skinhead.

Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 6….”

So why then did Key take the UN to task over it’s treatment of Israel?

Political expedience in domestic polices is to be expected — but surely not where the Middle Eastern Democratic State of Israel is concerned – YOU DON’T EVER sell out the rights of women, children and homos in the ME as Israel is representative of the values of NEW ZEALAND in the ME!!!!!

I know people here like John Key very much – but he ain’t God – so you have to draw a line with his behaviour somewhere! 🙂
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November 14, 2015 9:05am
Griff

EAD is a Nazi

national Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnaːtsɪzᵊm/), is the ideology and practice associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party and Nazi state as well as other far-right groups. Usually characterized as a form of fascism that incorporates scientific racism and anti-Semitism,

Remember what your ancestors went though in the second world war to defeat the third Reich.

EAD represents the politics your ancestors fought against .

Every down tick we get for pointing this out is another spit on the grave of millions .
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November 14, 2015 9:19am
igm

MSM are no longer publishing any polls that don’t favour the party of perverts, parasites, and losers. The latest really shows how Chicken Little is dog tucker!
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November 14, 2015 9:24am
renderer

Ms Bright you have now had ample time to consult with your lawyers. Did you or did you not mislead the court?
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November 14, 2015 9:26am
mikenmild

Griff
I still find it a little bit astonishing to get downticks for reminding Kiwibloggers that EAD proudly describes himself as a national socialist.
He’s gone a little bit shy about this, but I think I should continue to ask him what solutions he, as a national socialist, would like to see to fix the Jewish problem that he so regularly brings to our attention.
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November 14, 2015 9:28am
holysheet

IGM you left out the LIABORE part in your description.
You are not allowed to misrepresent the truth (unless you are a member of the liabore party) so you must always call them the liabores
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November 14, 2015 9:30am
mikenmild

renderer
I don’t think Penny relies on actual lawyers for her legal advice. She prefers to be counselled by the likes of Graham McCready and Vince Siemer.
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November 14, 2015 9:31am
renderer

Ms Bright if as in the past as you have reminded bloggers that you live on the smell of an oily rag. How can you afford to go to Australia. Is this being funded by “donations” if so are these declared?
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November 14, 2015 9:32am
All_on_Red

I reckon Chris Cairns has been found guilty in the Court of public opinion but will he be found guilty in a Court of Law?
Reasonable doubt? For example standing at a bar, talking about match fixing and saying ” everybody is doing it” is not really the same as saying “I am doing it”
Be interesting to see what the Judge thinks.
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November 14, 2015 9:42am
starboard

The liarbor BBQ must be working overtime…
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November 14, 2015 9:46am
Awww C-mon

@Andrei. Edwards quotes the standard several times, no right turn and host of academics saying they are the voice of NZ in this debate and Key,Boag and National are miles off target.

I say Edwards is a drop kick.

What did you think I meant?
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November 14, 2015 9:47am
rightoverlabour

I see Jihadi John is probably been eaten by maggots at this stage. I hope they don’t get food poisoning. The only regret is that he did not suffer as his victims did.
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November 14, 2015 9:47am
EAD

Griff 9.19am,

Hysterical much?

I am genuinely intrigued by the perception you have of me!
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November 14, 2015 9:51am
Griff

Are you a national socialist EAD ?
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November 14, 2015 9:56am
Inandout

EAD 8.11: Looking at the assembled ‘concerned citizens’ in that clip, I realised I have observed such do gooders in mainstream church and ‘peace’ groups here. In Spectre’s case observe the earnestness, the slight smile and the regular turning of the head to emphasise a point, but a look into her eyes reveals a lady with a dark cause to fulfill. In Spectre’s case that video was taken in 2010 when Sweden was infested, but not at that stage swamped, by Muslims; her and her Rabbi husband must soon leave Sweden for their own safety.
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November 14, 2015 10:00am
Ross12

DPF

Have you annoyed a few people? I see the Herald have done a anti Tax Payers Union piece and as noted last night Nick Grant (NBR) thinks because you own the polling company that does Nationals polling you cannot really have an opinion.
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November 14, 2015 10:08am
mikenmild

EAD
For myself, my perception of you is coloured by a number of things:
1. Your self description as a national socialist
2. Your open hatred of Jews
3. Your constant prediction of worldwide economic collapse
4. Your Austrian School goldbugging.
All in all, that paints a picture of insanity.
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November 14, 2015 10:18am
big bruv

!!News Flash!!

Reports are coming in via the BBC of Shootings and an explosion in central Paris.

Anybody brave enough to bet this is not the work of Islamist scum.
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November 14, 2015 10:21am
Inandout

‘I met a beautiful girl last night, but she was rather thin. I mean this is a skinny girl. You never saw anybody so thin. She turned sideways you didn’t see her. I took her to a restaurant and the maître‘d said to me, ‘Can I check your umbrella?’

Mel Brooks (June 28 1926-)

“The Doc told me I had a dual personality. Then he lays an 82 dollar bill on me, so I give him 41 bucks and say, ‘Get the other 41 bucks from the other guy.’”

Jerry Lewis

‘Whoever said nothing is impossible obviously hasn’t tried nailing jelly to a tree.’

John Candy (1950-1994)

‘You know, I go to the theatre to be entertained… I don’t want to see plays about rape, sodomy and drug addiction… I can get all that at home.’

Peter Cook (1937-1995)
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November 14, 2015 10:30am
stephieboy

Paris shootings in city centre and explosion at Stade de France

Gunmen have opened fire in several places in the French capital, Paris, causing several casualties, French media report.
At least one man opened fire with an automatic gun at the Cambodge restaurant in the 11th district.
Liberation newspaper reports four deaths. It also reports shootings near the Bataclan arts centre.
An explosion is also reported to have targeted a bar near Stade de France, where France were hosting Germany.
Reports say President Francois Hollande was watching the match and has been evacuated.
A BBC journalist at the Cambodge restaurant says he can see 10 people on the road either dead or seriously injured.
He says police have now arrived.
Shooting is said to be continuing.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203

And we shouldn’t automatically assume like our resident and other cons[piracy theorists that this is a CIA Mossad inspired false flag psy ops .
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November 14, 2015 10:36am
starboard

MM will disagree Big Bruv and so will that wilt stiffyboy
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November 14, 2015 10:37am
nickb

Do you guys know anyone who has bums and cocks on their mind as much as starboard?
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November 14, 2015 10:41am
stephieboy

starboard, yes that it was caused by Islamic Jihadists is a real possibly ,but certainly not a reason as you and Big Bruv will undoubtedly agree to tar all Muslims with the same terrorist brush ?
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November 14, 2015 10:42am
Southern Raider

Reports of explosions and gun fire in Paris.

The religion of peace involved?
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November 14, 2015 10:47am
Simon

Have said before if you live in France you need a concealed gun.
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November 14, 2015 10:47am
big bruv

stephieboy

In think it might just be easier to call you Caitlyn. Anyway, would I be unjust to tar all of the peace loving rag heads with that same brush?

Would these be the same rag heads who NEVER condemn the actions of the Islamist scum?
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November 14, 2015 10:48am
fernglas

A friend of mine is holed up in a bar next to the restaurant in the 11th. He says there are bodies on the street; Liberation reports 18 dead in 3 separate locations.
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November 14, 2015 10:49am
EAD

Griff,

I normally wouldn’t answer such rambling but the answer is no, I am not a “national socialist” in the form your fevered little mind would like to imagine.

And no, downticking your posts does not mean a person “spits on graves” as your emotionally loaded claptrap states. I am more in awe of those who paid and risk paying the ultimate sacrafice for what they believed would give their ancestors a better future. A future I see being attacked at from all sides at the moment from a well organised cabal of people leaving us a world unrecognisable which those brave soldiers thought they’d be fighting for.

I am just an ordinary guy with 2 cars in the driveway, a loving family, “serving” on local committees and a “job” that puts me in the top tax bracket several over.

I am just an ordinary citizen who is gravely concerned at what is going on in the world at the moment. And unlike yourself, I am extremely calm and rational.

Like many on here, I started off as some form of Conservative/Libertarian then found it curious, then odd, improbable, almost impossible, then infuriatingly how when examining every single political/societal ill that has befallen Western countries from Fiat/debt based currencies to 3rd world immigration, from simple cultural degradation to the pernicious war on logic itself that is political correctness – I looked at the names and backgrounds of those leading/promoting these destructive movements and find that 80% of them, without exception, belong to this impossibly small, yet impossibly influential tribe of people whose interests run so contrary to our own.

I await the downticks – it’s all you’ve got (apart from abuse, hysteria and smears)
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November 14, 2015 10:50am
starboard

So why dont the “peaceful” muslims stand up and be counted then stiffyboy, deal to the extremists. I’ll tell you why stiffyboy, because they silently agree with what is going on..much like the loud mouth maori scum we have here in NZ..the general maori just STFU and go along with it..because they agree with whats going on and they think they will benefit somehow when ( lol ) ” the murri take over and run the show “. So, wake up and smell the coffee stiffyboy.
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November 14, 2015 10:52am
stephieboy

Southern Raider, no the Religion Of Peace was not involved . Early days yet but likely terrorists who claim to be members of Islam and certainly don’t speak on behalf of the world’s 1.6 billion Muslims.

Right ?
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November 14, 2015 10:52am
mikenmild

I am not a “national socialist” in the form your fevered little mind would like to imagine.

I’d be quite interested to find out what form your national socialism takes. The Jew hatred is obviously a given. But were Hitler’s policies, for example, too soft, too harsh, or just right?
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November 14, 2015 10:54am
starboard

” cough bullshit ” stiffyboy @10.52am
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November 14, 2015 10:54am
stephieboy

starbaord , but Muslims do protest as they do e.g here ,

http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/auckland-kurds-march-against-is-massacres-2014102517#axzz3rOs74JV7

Which is much, much more than you could ever do spouting off fourth from the ease and comfort of your keybaord .

Very barave and nobel of you !
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November 14, 2015 10:56am
Reid

Most of the people above responding to EAD’s comment about Lerner are behaving in precisely the same way the lefties are currently behaving about Key’s comments on rapists and murderers. In spite of the facts in both those cases, various people many of them in both groups at the same time, are twisting plain words and meanings into something they don’t mean. And they are doing that in both cases, because they have a warped and twisted view of the world that prevents them from seeing what really happened, and they are making things up about it that have no relation to reality.

Let’s take Lerner first.

Here is stephie’s quote of what she said:

“Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive”

Firstly, what the hell is wrong with Europe continuing “to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century?” What is wrong with that? That’s what we’ve been talking about every single day here for the last several months. We don’t want to lose our Western Judeo-Christian culture. None of us want that except progressive lefty cultural marxist swine. They’re the only ones amongst us who want that. And here is Lerner saying that she wants the opposite of that, she wants to destroy our Judeo-Christian heritage. Furthermore, she is naming a group inside those Western Societies who are at the centre of that movement – playing the “leading role” she calls it, in her own words.

Of course many of those above who have criticised EAD for raising Lerner in the first place, are, as we know, the cultural marxists amongst us, mm and stephie for instance. But many others have upticked their complaints about someone opposing their precious plan of cultural destruction, and those are the people who are living in a fantasy world of their own making, just like the lefties who are hallucinating that Key’s comments mean something they clearly did not and never did. And that particular fantasy world is of course the same fantasy world that prompted DPF’s post yesterday on “Is this hate speech” in reference to a site supported by Maori TV that is on the side of the Palestinians. The fantasy world where anti-Semitism lurks under every rock, where you can criticise any nation on Earth to one’s heart content, except for one, where in some countries, you’ll go to prison if you do. What the hell is so profoundly exceptional and special about that nation that you can’t do that, whereas you can say what you like about every other country on Earth and no-one bats an eye. There’s something funny going on there, isn’t there. Clearly. Just like there’s definitely something funny going on in the worldview of those lefties who right here right now, are hysterically campaigning on a meme they’ve hallucinated out of thin air, about Key.
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November 14, 2015 10:58am
Reid

So why dont the “peaceful” muslims stand up and be counted then stiffyboy, deal to the extremists. I’ll tell you why stiffyboy, because they silently agree with what is going on

Why is Iran joining with Russia to defeat ISIS then?
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November 14, 2015 11:00am
starboard

LMFAO !!! 130 Kurds protesting down in little ‘ole Nil Ziland ..ya kidding arent ya stiffyboy!!

Yeah that’ll learn ’em..
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November 14, 2015 11:00am
starboard

End result Reid..so they can blow up Israel.
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November 14, 2015 11:03am
stephieboy

EAD, it could be useful if you would list the things you admired abourt Hitler and his Germany.

The alledged “economic miracle” could be one of them ?

Other things ?
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November 14, 2015 11:03am
Reid

End result Reid..so they can blow up Israel.

With Israel having 350+ nukes?

You’ve got to be joking.
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November 14, 2015 11:05am
EAD

Mikey,

You do realise when the likes of you bandy words about like “bigot”, “hatred”, “loon”, “racist”, “denier” blah blah blah, most intelligent people just laugh and realise they are close to the truth?
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November 14, 2015 11:05am
Gabby

If you go to Australia and commit crimes then years later after serving your sentence they’ll change the law so you can be deported – it is the law there – and if you haven’t broken the law the Minister can do you for being too brown anyway.
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November 14, 2015 11:06am
peterwn

Ross12 – Funny how the ‘left’ attacks people and organisations who allegedly help National. Either they are effective at their jobs or the ‘left’ is inept. For example if DPF’s polling company produces dud results then the ‘left’ should encourage them. Similarly if ‘focus groups’ become ‘echo chambers’. The art of being a good pollster or focus group organiser is the ability to recognise that your methods or results are becoming ‘poisoned’ for one reason or another and to take action to remedy this (the hoary old example being polls are allegedly skewed as they exclude those without landline phones). Political success is also helped by being able to recognise that the opposition is starting to believe its own bull****. The left really have it in for Crosby Textor and Simon Lusk. Ironically Stuart Nash could well have won his seat by allegedly taking advice from Simon but other Labour MP’s have frowned upon him for daring to do this.
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November 14, 2015 11:06am
stephieboy

starbaord, at least they do and continue to do things protesting against ISIS including supporting their people in Iraq etc fighting them !

But you ? “Bravely ” and insanely banging away on the safe distance of your key board will be as far as it will ever get .

Nice one !
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November 14, 2015 11:08am
Fletch

In case you missed it, students in campuses across America are protesting and getting professors and University presidents fired over nothing. It’s because they are “offended” about some little thing or have got their feelings hurt. What will become of it all?

A group calling themselves the Amherst Uprising listed 11 demands they want enacted by next Wednesday. Among them is a demand that President Biddy Martin issue a statement saying that Amherst does “not tolerate the actions of student(s) who posted the ‘All Lives Matter’ posters, and the ‘Free Speech’ posters.”

The latter posters called the principle of free speech the “true victim” of the protests at the University of Missouri.

Going further, the students demand the people behind “free speech” fliers be required to go through a disciplinary process as well as “extensive training for racial and cultural competency.”

The protests at Amherst come on the heels of protests at the University of Missouri, Yale, and Claremont McKenna College. At Mizzou, officials resigned after criticism of how they reacted to alleged racist incidents on campus. Students at Yale protested an email sent by a college administrator about Halloween costumes, saying it made them feel unsafe. And at Claremont McKenna, a class president resigned her post after appearing in a photo with two students dressed in ponchos and sombreros.

Amherst students also asked administrators to excuse them from coursework and classes so they could participate in protests and sit-ins—and they want the school to warn alumni that racist or critical responses of the protests will not be tolerated.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/13/amherst-students-demand-no-free-speech-signs-or-else.html

One blogger references the Cultural Revolution in China, and says he fears what is coming…

So you will excuse me if, from the outset, when I heard how our college campuses were being overtaken with these new-fangled “trigger warnings” and “microagressions,” perfect Maoist terminology for our computerized times, it immediately gave me the heebie-jeebies. Thought control, via political correctness, had come to America in the very spot it had begun in China — the schools.

Recent events at the University of Missouri and Yale (where I attended graduate school), plus now other institutions, have only increased my apprehension. It’s not at the level of the Cultural Revolution — professors haven’t been asked to wear dunce caps yet and no one (to my knowledge) has been killed — but the portents are not reassuring.

Mob rule, not anything close to democracy, is at play. The so-called SJWs (Social Justice Warriors) seem to be functioning as early avatars of the infamous Red Guard, bullying and then threatening violence to anyone whose thoughts run outside what is deemed to be correct.

College professors and administrators quiver in their path. In the case of Mizzou, the president resigned before any concrete evidence of racism was made manifest. It still hasn’t been days later. At dear old Yale, it’s even more bizarre because there were no imputations of racism in the first place, only that there might have been or might be. Forget Bull Connor and the KKK, inappropriate Halloween costumes were the new danger. It was all about having a “safe space” so feelings wouldn’t be hurt, as if the world could be perfect and the human species remade for an extraordinarily fragile generation of coddled students.

http://pjmedia.com/diaryofamadvoter/2015/11/13/campus-cultural-revolution/

These little upstarts are upset now? What happens when they get into the real world?
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November 14, 2015 11:08am
NZpatriot

It’s time for NZ politicians and the MSM to engage with the question of Islamic immigration to NZ. Today’s shocking events in Paris highlight why this is necessary.
Islam is simply incompatible with western liberal democracy and this needs to be acknowledged.
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November 14, 2015 11:10am
Reid

Muslim Onslaught Of America – This Video Depicts Our Future

We Americans read glossed-over news reports on the refugee invasion of Europe. We think our distance from Africa protects us from a similar fate. Reality check: totally incorrect in making that assumption.

Right now, in Washington DC, powerful forces from Obama on down the line—prepare for a refugee injection of 200,000 Syrian Muslims. That’s on top of the 1.2 million immigrants being forced into our country annually. They lack skills, education and English. They arrive from the most impoverished and war-torn Islamic countries on the planet. They bring their cultures, languages and religions to our country. All incompatible with the American Way of Life! They expect to become “wards of welfare” for the rest of their lives.

Once they establish themselves in America, this 19-minute video depicts what Muslims did to Europe and what they will certainly do to America. This video shows you what we face as to violence, rapes, riots, crime, drugs, loss of women’s rights, loss of free speech and usurpation of our culture by a violent religion and its millions of followers:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/11/watch-anti-migrant-video-going-viral-across-europe/

Islam promotes, thrives and lives for violence as its “prime directive” for spreading the dictates of the Koran to all the world’s countries. It’s vicious, relentless, deadly and insidious.

As one Muslim said, “You Americans have all the watches, but we have all the time…”

It’s what’s in store for Australia and us too, from Indonesia.

And there is evidently a group at the centre of it all, a group who can’t be criticised.

To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize? – Voltaire
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November 14, 2015 11:13am
starboard

” and insanely banging away on the safe distance of your key board ”

“Hello Mr Pot..meet Mr Kettle..”
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November 14, 2015 11:14am
stephieboy

Reid, any more comment on those crazy claims about that US Apache Helicopter ” escorting ” that ISIS convoy ?

The unfolding news about the Paris attacks. ? Yet another Mossad CIA false flag with e.g fake blood , wounds , crisis actors etc ?
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November 14, 2015 11:15am
Southern Raider

30 dead already, scores injured and 60 hostages in a hall. This isn’t going to end well

Stephiboy and co will defend Muslims but the reality is this is only going to get worse as a massive amount of Muslims are sitting on the fence or providing silent support

And Europe has just imported hundreds of thousands more which when they decide not to integrate and can’t get jobs they will join the terrorists
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November 14, 2015 11:15am
starboard

Gabby, why is it that ” brown ” and ” break the law ” seem to go arm in arm ?
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November 14, 2015 11:17am
stephieboy

Southern Raider, Untrue. Many Muslims have protested against these kind of attacks . Whats really missing are people like you !

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/10/11/20-000-Kurds-protest-against-ISIS-in-Germany.html

and ,

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/robert-spencer-in-frontpage-muslim-moderates-rally-against-terror-in-ireland
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November 14, 2015 11:17am
starboard

You should know me by now Reid…I never joke

” Muwhahahahahaha*cough*hahhahahaha…
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November 14, 2015 11:19am
stephieboy

Reid,

“And there is evidently a group at the centre of it all, a group who can’t be criticised.”

Jews ? But carry on !

And the actual evidence the US is goping to admit 200,000 Syrian Muslims ? No Chrsitians or Yazidis or Parsis among them ?
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November 14, 2015 11:21am
starboard

“Do you guys know anyone who has bums and cocks on their mind as much as starboard?”

Yes, scott chris
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November 14, 2015 11:22am
mikenmild

EAD
I’m just curious that’s all. I’m genuinely interested n reading some more details of your national socialist policy prescription. As one example, I think you linked to Irish Savant’s suggestion that the numbers of Jews in professions, etc should be limited to a quota based on their share of the population. Would that be a policy you endorse?
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November 14, 2015 11:23am
Fletch

Ted Cruz acts out a scene from The Princess Bride, doing quite a good Billy Crystal impersonation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mcie4Nasw
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November 14, 2015 11:24am
Inandout

Southern Raider 10.47: I am surprised the Muslims have left it this long to start their revolution; it’s been a month or so since the invasion. The soldiers of Allah don’t enjoy waiting around. By this time next year there will hardly be a Left wing government remaining in Europe, and a few extreme Right will be in power. Very possibly the next decade will be a violent time in that region and wise Muslims will head back to the shit holes from whence they came; fortunately they are at this stage extremely outnumbered by native Europeans.
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November 14, 2015 11:28am
fernglas

35 dead, 100 hostages and the gunmen still on the loose, according to the BBC. Makes the bickering ninnies on this GD look a bit pathetic doesn’t it?
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November 14, 2015 11:32am
Reid

Reid, any more comment on those crazy claims about that US Apache Helicopter ” escorting ” that ISIS convoy ?

stupidboy, I’m waiting for you to explain why an Apache was escorting it rather than blasting it from the sky, and why the US State Dept paid for the vehicles in it.

I thought ISIS were the bad guys, but the US evidently doesn’t, does it.

So explain that, directly.

Go on.

And don’t prevaricate and munt around the edges. Explain it. It’s a simple question, give me a direct answer that addresses the direct question. Unless and until you do that, I won’t be commenting further on it.

Secondly, I haven’t yet passed comment on the Paris attack, so don’t put words into my mouth, I’ve told you about that before, don’t do it. I know cultural marxists like those kind of tactics, but it’s impolite in proper societies, so learn a lesson.
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November 14, 2015 11:34am
EAD

The bickering ninnies fernglas?

Do you mean those on here who have been warning of a future of violent ethnic conflict that is now being played out in real time yet again on the streets of Paris.

And as each day passes, another wave of fighting age Africans and middle eastern men flood into Europe.

The future is here now. Welcome to the nightmare.
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November 14, 2015 11:41am
mikenmild

Don’t worry, EAD. According to Inandout, the Europeans will see the light soon and elect some reliable national socialist governments to fix the problem.
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November 14, 2015 11:48am
Manolo

Savage Islam strikes France again. What will the multiculturalists say?
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November 14, 2015 11:49am
Griff

You do realise when the likes of you bandy words about like “bigot”, “hatred”, “loon”, “racist”, “denier” blah blah blah, most intelligent people just laugh and realise they are close to the truth?

You wouldn’t know “truth” if it raped your arse EAD
Posting repeatedly that a global finical crisis would happen September 2015.
November 2015 and we still dont see it :
loon
Identify’s as a national socialist but doesn’t even know what that means.
Idiot
links to anti Jewish sites daily but maintains is not a racist
denial

I normally wouldn’t answer such rambling but the answer is no, I am not a “national socialist” in the form your fevered little mind would like to imagine.

yip EAD You think are a Nazi That is the more common name for a national socialist according to every source I can find.
As I doubt very much you understand the big word used to describe political positions judging by the crap you post I dont think you are as you say .
In my esteemed opinion really.You are just a fuckwit without clue
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November 14, 2015 11:52am
Inandout

mikenmild: No milky, they will elect governments that actually care about their peoples’ welfare and safety. Merkel should be charged with treason.
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November 14, 2015 11:53am
starboard

Too late..the horse has bolted

“BREAKING: French president says he will declare state of emergency and close borders”
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November 14, 2015 12:02pm
starboard

“it raped your arse”

There goes gwiff again..raping arses this time
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November 14, 2015 12:04pm
Inandout

starboard: Tourism to France is already dead.
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November 14, 2015 12:04pm
Paulus

I am awaiting the ISIS experts to have an on the ground go at Moscow or St Petersburg.
Chechnya have waited a long time for revenge on Russia.
Saudi Arabia has held them back with money, and will now help as they have fallen out of the antagonistic brotherhood relationship with Putin when he has annexed the Mediterranean part of Syria with the non approval Syrians who are helpless now to Putin’s doings.
Putin is setting the Russians up like Afghanistan where they ultimately got beaten.
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November 14, 2015 1:47pm
stephieboy

Reid, I explained yeserdasy a number of possible explnations and noted that Live Leaks commented ” appeared ” to be escorting the ISIS column .

And how do we know the same Helcipter did not attack the ISIS column shorly after ?

It was after all an ISIS prooganda Video and would hardly include an attack

Therefore E fail for you and VT.
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November 14, 2015 1:56pm
Manolo

Mocking an appeaser:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3316883/Killing-barbaric-murderer-Jihadi-John-act-self-defence-Britain-worked-hand-glove-forces-ahead-drone-strike-says-Cameron.html

Jeremy Corbyn has been ridiculed by one of his own MPs after saying it would have been ‘far better’ to capture Jihadi John alive – as David Cameron insisted killing him was the ‘right thing to do’.

The Labour leader said Mohammed Emwazi – who Pentagon officials are ‘99%’ sure was ‘evaporated’ in a US drone attack – should have been arrested and held to account in a court of law. But he was mocked almost immediately by Labour MP Ian Austin, a former aide to Gordon Brown, who tweeted ‘I’m sure he’d have come quietly’.
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November 14, 2015 2:24pm
SPC

Donald Trump.

1. Ben Carson says of his child anger issues, he prayed to God for help managing it. Trump says no one is cured of such problems, that they are like pedophiles and never cured.

Trump showing he is not just dismissing anger management as a treatment (with no expertise in this field) but also the power of self transformation by personal will and also faith in prayer and the power of God.

Hardly consistent with personal responsibility and faith values of the wider Republican Party he seeks mandate from to become President.

2. A few days later Trump says he is praying for the victims in Paris.

With what faith in prayer?

How can anyone take this man seriously, is there any moral compass or core values in play at all?
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November 14, 2015 4:03pm
Fletch

One for dime –

http://mashable.com/2015/11/13/phil-taylor-motorhead-drummer-dead/#kSBC0_B6XZqB
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November 14, 2015 4:48pm
Meatloaf

I see that a couple of people are calling EAD a Nazi, yet at 10.18 AM one of these people said that EAD is a goldbug. Sorry guys, but Nazism and being a goldbug don’t go together. In Nazi Germany they had a central bank. In Nazi Germany the government told people what to do. A successful business paid a high rate of income tax or was told to hire more people. Ludwig Von Mises an Austrian totally disagrees with that. To an Austrian, any government interference is bad for the economy.

So no, for anybody who does understand what a National Socialist is, EAD is not that. However, I begin to wonder about someobody who says that we need to cut our emissions by 90% to survive. You can’t do that without the least productive people dying. And who is that.

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/10/general_debate_12_october_2015.html

If you take a look at Griff’s comments, you’ll know who it is.
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November 14, 2015 5:27pm
Griff

Meat head
EAD says he is a National Socialist .
That is a Nazi.
So take it up with him half wit .
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November 14, 2015 5:30pm
mikenmild

Meatloaf
EAD has described himself at least twice as a national socialist. It doesn’t really worry me if his gold-buggery is technically incompatible with his Nazism. Cranks are capable of believing multiple contradictory ideas simultaneously.
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November 14, 2015 5:30pm
Meatloaf

Where does EAD, call himself a national socialist? I find it hard to swallow that EAD would call himself a national socialist.
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November 14, 2015 5:31pm
mikenmild

Oh, you should swallow it alright.
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November 14, 2015 5:39pm
SPC

Meatloaf, and yet EAD did.
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November 14, 2015 5:41pm
Griff

Griff (11,784 comments) says:
November 14th, 2015 at 9:56 am

Are you a national socialist EAD ?

EAD (3,063 comments) says:
November 14th, 2015 at 10:50 am

Griff,

I normally wouldn’t answer such rambling but the answer is no, I am not a “national socialist” in the form your fevered little mind would like to imagine.

Apparently EAD belongs to a special form of national socialism as yet un specified….
As he once claimed to be a libertarian then supported colons confused socialist conservative party I actually think he is idiot without a clue.
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November 14, 2015 5:43pm
SPC

Meatloaf, the coming out began here.

EAD (3,063 comments) says:

October 14th, 2015 at 9:14 am
@ Albert Ross,

In my life I’ve waded from light Socialism through to Conservatism, to Libertarian to conspiracy-acknowledgist… and now, frankly, I’m finding (true, non-cartoonish) National-Socialism to be the most healthy and vital system. Why? Because it recognises the bigger-picture – it does not focus purely upon race or culture. It sees the longstanding faults of Western-society; faults which extend farther back than the advent of mass-immigration or Communism. It is belief in the natural order; of growth and betterment – intellectual, communal, spiritual and physical.
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November 14, 2015 5:48pm
mikenmild

EAD is yet to explain what the ‘non-cartoonish’ version of national socialism would look like. Perhaps he thinks Hitler was a bit soft on the Jews.
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November 14, 2015 5:53pm
Johnboy

Milkey has swallowed the body and blood of Christ to achieve the Jubilee Cup!

I find this hard to swallow. 🙂
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