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Manolo

Dimbulbs like stupidboy who don’t even understand. ~~who’s fighting whom~~.

A correction for the sake of accuracy.
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October 9, 2015 5:59pm
stephieboy

Reid, oh deary me Putin has missed his target

Cruise missiles launched from the Caspian sea hit Iran,,

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/10/russian-missiles-fly-too-close-to-sun-land-in-iran-by-mistake/409726/

Now where do you think ISIS got those T55 and T62 tanks and other Russian sophisticated military hardware from ?

Indent order the Kremlin or Washington ?
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October 9, 2015 6:01pm
stigie

Nah Nostra, had a couple and couldn’t help myself, anyway most of the ole flogs are in bed by 8…?
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October 9, 2015 6:02pm
mikenmild

Someone above mentioned Ben Carson as their favourite for the Republican nomination. He’s another flake. Here’s his latest brain fart:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/72875348/ben-carson-says-armed-jews-would-have-diminished-holocaust
The old canard about Hitler and gun control…
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October 9, 2015 6:03pm
itstricky

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, look at ’em cute baby crank sites?
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October 9, 2015 6:03pm
SPC

Manolo, the BBC says who’s fighting whom (in Syria), whereas Time says who’s fighting who in Syria.

https://www.google.co.nz/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=hts&oq=&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGHP_en-GBNZ423NZ423&q=who%e2%80%99s+fighting+whom.
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October 9, 2015 6:04pm
stephieboy

Manolo, ah so your now onto Reid’s CIA Israel created ISIS theory ??
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October 9, 2015 6:07pm
Reid

Manolo, the BBC says who’s fighting whom (in Syria), whereas Time says who’s fighting who in Syria.

It also happens to be the rules of good grammar SPC. What was your point, out of curiosity?

It would be difficult to overstate the significance of what appears to be going on here. This is nothing short of a Middle Eastern coup, as Iran looks to displace Saudi Arabia as the regional power broker and as Russia looks to supplant the US as the superpower puppet master.

Do not expect Saudi Arabia and Israel to remain on the sidelines here.

If Russia ends up bolstering Iran’s position in Syria (by expanding Hezbollah’s influence and capabilities) and if the Russian air force effectively takes control of Iraq thus allowing Iran to exert a greater influence over the government in Baghdad, the fragile balance of power that has existed in the region will be turned on its head and in the event this plays out, one should not expect Washington, Riyadh, Jerusalem, and London to simply go gentle into that good night.

No. But ISIS will. The UKUSA will crawl away and lick their wounds and come back with something even more nasty. Hard to imagine, but those people will. You watch.

BTW, it occurs maybe this move has disrupted their schedule for other plans too, I wonder if that’s the case or not. Anyone who knows what those are think that’s a possible? Since AFAIK there’s only one or two here who do know what those are, I’ll only be responding to replies from those people on this particular question.
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October 9, 2015 6:11pm
Griff

Some of the cow cockys on here may find this amusing.
http://paidpost.nytimes.com/milkpep/a-fresh-look.html
You wouldn’t see shit and hay on the floor or even a setup so backward looking in a kiwi miking shed.
I guess its a beginning of a marketing campaign to counter our small TPP wins in diary.
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October 9, 2015 6:12pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Scott Chris

I’m guessing Maggy fancies the artistic man.

Wrong guess

@Griff

I blame the spell checker

Only 2 are yours. stephieboy and the red indian might like to claim the other one.
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October 9, 2015 6:13pm
itstricky

It also happens to be the rules of good grammar SPC

They also happen to be the rules. Because they are rules, not a rule.
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October 9, 2015 6:13pm
starboard

Go fuck yourself scottchris..twice..
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October 9, 2015 6:16pm
stephieboy

Reid even according to Putin ISIS plan to invade and conquer Mecca, Median and Jerusalem .

https://www.rt.com/news/315374-isis-danger-spread-putin/

And of course conquering Jerusalem with the full co-operation of the Israelis ?

Sheesh !

Pushing your stupidity envelope yet again and again!
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October 9, 2015 6:16pm
Griff

😆

I can never quite manage to slow my proof reading down enough to see the individual letters.

I could not run a sockpuppet as redtwit used to claim. You would spot my habitually atrocious spelling and grammar a mile away.
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October 9, 2015 6:17pm
itstricky

Go fuck yourself scottchris..2 times..

Grammar is just all wrong with that one.
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October 9, 2015 6:18pm
Reid

They also happen to be the rules. Because they are rules, not a rule.

Cricky tricky.

You’re not The Riddler, are you?

He had good grammar too.

Or maybe they just dubbed it in.
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October 9, 2015 6:19pm
starboard

Husbands husband killed in car crash..say what ?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/72831326/victim-stolen-by-central-christchurch-crash-husband-still-critical
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October 9, 2015 6:20pm
starboard

“Grammar is just all wrong with that one.”

Noted..
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October 9, 2015 6:21pm
itstricky

Whoops sorry accidentally up ticked starboard. Probably given him an inflated sense of being.
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October 9, 2015 6:21pm
starboard

The special people at play again..

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/72845049/Man-seriously-assaulted-before-keys-stolen-in-road-rage-attack-near-Nelson
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October 9, 2015 6:24pm
itstricky

You mean criminals?
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October 9, 2015 6:26pm
Reid

Probably given him an inflated sense of being.

That’s a tricky one tricky.

See, one of the common errors of undersandering which’s snuck into Inglish is “false sense of security.”

But you can’t have a false sense. You either have a sense or you don’t.

Therefore it’s correct to say only “a sense of security that is false.”

But how does apply to a sense of inflated being?

Same thing, or not?

(I’m getting bored BTW, I don’t really want an answer, I’d prefer stupidboy to say something so I can call him stupidboy again. I expect I’m not alone in that.)
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October 9, 2015 6:28pm
starboard

Well itsdrippy , MOST of the time Police are looking for a maori offender. These are the facts. Its there in black and white ( excuse the pun ). Go ahead, call me racist , call me an arsehole , call me whatever you like..however I will not be silenced by name calling and I shall continue to shine light on maori offending because I am sick to death of it.
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October 9, 2015 6:32pm
RRM

I’ve just had a beer after work with our new middle-aged South African woman draughtsman.

Her parents were both killed about 10 years ago. Her nephew was killed a couple of years ago.
She moved here with her teenaged son and daughter last year right after she and her daughter got mugged driving into in their driveway. The muggers had just killed the neighbour over the back fence, so it is a miracle she and her daughter are even alive, let alone that they weren’t raped. Insurance company wouldn’t pay out on her stolen car because “it should have been in the garage and you parked it in the driveway.” Their house is worth nothing if they sell it because their neighbourhood has turned into a war zone.

They came to New Zealand because right after the mugging they googled every civilised country they could think of, and Australia and New Zealand were top of the list mainly because they’d heard of us due to international rugby.

I don’t know how she can even turn up every day to do her job TBH. An astonishingly tough person. Probably the toughest I know.

Meanwhile, here in New Zealand the things we complain about are getting a speeding ticket for going 105km/h in a 100km/h area, or the government isn’t giving enough free stuff to needy people, or the government is giving too much free stuff to useless people, or the Auckland council should be more transparent about XXX, or the free trade negotiators haven’t told us quite as much about what they’re trying to get for us as we think they should have done.

It’s a beautiful evening here in paradise. take it easy! 😎
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October 9, 2015 6:38pm
jcuk

The Angular Brackets threw me and I asked the question this morning. But once I had read the link that Griff provided it was clear because I have been writing HTML fo my websites in the past. I would have called them forward and backward arrowheads and I thought chevrons were vertical [military emblems].
I guess the twits who down-ticked me thought it was a socialistic message LOL 🙂
Changed my mind about logging off for the night low and behold a down-tick 🙂
Good night all 🙂
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October 9, 2015 6:38pm
Nostradamus

Starboard:

I shall continue to shine light

We’re still waiting for your Friday night Hagley Park report!
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October 9, 2015 6:39pm
Manolo

There is hope ISIS may get to Mecca before the big bomb is dropped on the savages.
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October 9, 2015 6:44pm
stigie

“We’re still waiting for your Friday night Hagley Park report”!

Cant you wait till it’s dark Nostra and the shoe shop is closed…?
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October 9, 2015 6:45pm
starboard

MM’s covering that now Nostril , he begged and begged to do it so I relented. Expect a rip snorting first hand report around midnight covering everything from glory holes to snowballing ( and felching , forgot felching )
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October 9, 2015 6:47pm
nasska

You’ll get the hang of it starboard:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xq4gv1r4k46hrxe/Starboard%204.jpg?dl=0
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October 9, 2015 6:52pm
mikenmild

RRM
I was talking to a police officer a few years back who had moved here from South Africa. He liked it in New Zealand, because “there’s no crime here”.
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October 9, 2015 7:02pm
itstricky

Well itsdrippy , MOST of the time Police are looking for a maori offender. These are the facts.

I don’t disagree with the statistical facts, starboard, I disagree with your illogical inference that all Maori are criminal.
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October 9, 2015 7:03pm
itstricky

But how does apply to a sense of inflated being? Same thing, or not?

I don’t think so. Senses are things that have inifinite range. You can have a dampened sense, or a heightened sense. In this case starboard’s sense is hot air balloon-like.
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October 9, 2015 7:05pm
stigie

“In this case starboard’s sense is hot air ballon-like”.

Not true, he knows what ladyboys are and feel like…?
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October 9, 2015 7:08pm
starboard

” MOST of the time ”

“with your illogical inference that all Maori are criminal.”

What are you talking about drippy, I cant see where I say ALL maori are criminal..you wouldn’t be making shit up now would you drippy..?
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October 9, 2015 7:10pm
itstricky

What are you talking about drippy, I cant see where I say ALL maori are criminal..you wouldn’t be making shit up now would you drippy..?

Let’s try again.

Who are the “special people”, starboard?
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October 9, 2015 7:13pm
Griff

Yip apparently starboard even found one that looks like the words greatest sysop.
Seemed to be a cheap deal and all.
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October 9, 2015 7:14pm
starboard

Sorry drippy not buying into your bollocks..got nasal hair to pluck , go and blow gwiff or something. Night x
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October 9, 2015 7:16pm
nasska

Itstricky

Starboard in his 6.24pm merely stated “The special people at play again” & went on to link a news report which includes, “The offender was described as being part Maori, about 1.83 metres (6 feet) tall, and of solid build”.

Where on earth has he illogically inferred that “all Maori are criminal”?
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October 9, 2015 7:17pm
itstricky

Sorry drippy not buying into your bollocks..

I guess that’s you admitting your mistakes, then. Nice to see you be grown up about it and take ownership.
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October 9, 2015 7:19pm
itstricky

Where on earth has he illogically inferred that “all Maori are criminal”?

Who are the “special people”? Maori; criminals; or Maori criminals?
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October 9, 2015 7:21pm
Griff

.got nasal hair to pluck , go and blow gwiff or something.

I dont care if you pluck your arse hairs starboard.
There is absolutely no way you are ever going to blow me you filthy old dick sucking toilet creeper.
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October 9, 2015 7:21pm
Fletch

Is this fine going a bit too far? A bit of a stupid thing to say, but still….

A V8 Supercar driver competing at this weekend’s Bathurst 1000 has been fined A$25,000 (NZ$27k) for a “disgraceful” comment made during a press conference about an all-female team.

Speaking after the third practice session for the “Great Race”, team Bottle-O driver David Reynolds referred to a car driven by the women as a “pussy wagon”.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/72847985/bathurst-driver-david-reynolds-fined-for-disgraceful-comment-about-womens-car
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October 9, 2015 7:23pm
mikenmild

Penny pasted some information from this blog post earlier. It is about the Defence Force’s shameful attempt to nobble journalist Jon Stephenson, who had the temerity to report from Afghanistan things that weren’t to the government’s liking. He has settled his defamation case against the NZDF, winning compensation and an admission that the statements about him were untrue.
http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2015/10/some-thoughts-on-the-stephenson-case/
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October 9, 2015 7:23pm
Viking2

Many have been here looking for Angry Andrew.
Found him today resplendent in a red shirt and a funny smile.

In my letter box he was and telling me “we should all have the opportunity to live the Kiwi dream”
Whatever the fuck that is. And of course the hypocrisy is that it would only be under their rules not mine.
A bit like the screwed in the Head disingenuous Green yesterday who was blaming the Govt. for Solid Energy going closed.

Who the fuck has been bleating on about NOT USING COAL for the last 20 something years.
Non other than the the faced Greens.
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October 9, 2015 7:23pm
nasska

The special people are Maori. A proportion of Maori are violent criminals.
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October 9, 2015 7:24pm
stigie

What about if he was very clean old dick sucking flog Griff ?
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October 9, 2015 7:25pm
Griff

Not even
ain’t nothing sucking mine but ~~calfs~~chicks .
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October 9, 2015 7:28pm
itstricky

The special people are Maori

So let’s rewrite the sentence again:

Maori at play again..
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/72845049/Man-seriously-assaulted-before-keys-stolen-in-road-rage-attack-near-Nelson

Infering that Maori (i.e. the collective; all of them; a race) are bashing people for fun.

A proportion of Maori are violent criminals.

As are a portion of all races and creeds.

So, when I paste a Oscar Pistirous article should I introduce it with:

South Africans showing everyone how to have a domestic again..

?
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October 9, 2015 7:29pm
RRM

Fletch –

The guy who made the comments is apparently a mate of one of the woman drivers and her husband… I gather the two woman racing drivers were not at all offended, as ASTONISHINGLY! women have a sense of humour too. But Motor racing really REALLY needs to clean up if they want to stay on air and online, so it is mainly the powers that be at the top of the sport who are behind all the censure and taking offense and PR that is happening to that guy.

I remember going to the A1 race in Taupo in 2007 and being horrified by all of the promo girls walking around everywhere wearing not very much and looking to be aged about 14.
But more being horrified with all the disgusting sweaty, aging dudes, getting their photos taken with them and trying to grab a feel of a firm young arse cheek at the same time… while their wives pretended not to notice, or pretended not to mind.
It was just sad and embarrassing to be around it, it was something you didn’t expect to still see happening in this day and age.
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October 9, 2015 7:33pm
nasska

….”So, when I paste a Oscar Pistirous article should I introduce it with:

South Africans showing everyone how to have a domestic again.. “…..

I suppose you could paste an article about babies being bashed to death & introduce it with:

Maori are showing everyone how to kill children.

Neither of us would be fully correct or fully wrong….nor would we advance the world’s collective knowledge by much either.
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October 9, 2015 7:36pm
itstricky

Neither of us would be fully correct or fully wrong….nor would we advance the world’s collective knowledge by much either.

My statement would be wrong, because not all South Africans are wife murders.

If I said:

South African psychopath shows everyone how to have a domestic

Then I would be correct.

As would starboard, if he said:

Maori criminals at play again..

But he didn’t. He infered an entire race of people, in their whole, were bashing people for fun.
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October 9, 2015 7:41pm
Reid

But he didn’t. He infered an entire race of people, in their whole, were bashing people for fun.

So what?

Get over it.

I frequently infer the entire Western civilisation is populated by utter and complete morons who go Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

And it is, and they do.

See?

But so what?

Like I said.

Get over it.

How come two legs good four legs bad is the prevailing perpective?

How come it’s not all baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad?

Because it is, isn’t it?

I mean for example, just a tiny one, is it seriously and totally the case that some poor people haven’t bought their poverty on themselves through their own actions? Do they really require warp-round services to cuddle them because nothing, ever, has ever been their fault?
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October 9, 2015 7:47pm
nasska

Starboard said, “The special people at play again” & we accept that by special people he meant Maori.

The MSM have quoted the police as saying they are looking for a “part Maori” so in this instance a particular race has been identified.

You have jumped the shark if you read that as meaning each & every Maori is currently bashing someone for fun.
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October 9, 2015 7:50pm
itstricky

You have jumped the shark if you read that as meaning each & every Maori is currently bashing someone for fun.

Incorrect. You have misunderstood. Not every Maori person bashing someone right now.

What is the difference between these two statements:

(a) Maori like playing hopscotch.
(b) Maori criminals like playing hopscotch.

?
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October 9, 2015 7:52pm
nasska

The number of Maori jumping around? 🙂
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October 9, 2015 7:57pm
itstricky

OK, now I definitely know you’re just taking the proverbial…

…but nice one, well worth an up tick.
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October 9, 2015 7:57pm
Scott Chris

@Scott Chris

I’m guessing Maggy fancies the artistic man.

Wrong guess

You fancy artless men?
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October 9, 2015 9:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Scott Chris

Imagine a new TV game show entitled “An arty man or the cat”

Host: what will you take – an arty man or the cat?
Maggy: the cat

Host: How about a rich, handsome, young arty man or the cat?
Maggy: the cat

Host: How about a rich artistic man on death’s doorstep or the cat?
Maggy: The dying thespian + his bank balance
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October 9, 2015 9:23pm
nasska

Maggy has been sighted with a rich artistic man on death’s doorstep in tow. 🙂

https://www.dropbox.com/s/te3au4cwa980hj1/Maggy.jpg?dl=0
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October 9, 2015 9:30pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@nasska

are you monitoring my fantasies?
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October 9, 2015 9:41pm
Scott Chris

Host: How about a rich artistic man on death’s doorstep or the cat?
Maggy: The dying thespian + his bank balance

I liked the development, less so the delivery.
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October 10, 2015 12:08am
Manolo

Infighting behind the scenes: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3262627/It-s-Chelsea-vs-Huma-Two-competitive-power-hungry-women-vie-chosen-Hillary-Clinton-Lady-stylish-Abedin-edge.html

Guess who’s coming to state dinners and other official White House functions as first lady if Hillary wins the presidency?

The top two contenders on Clinton’s very secret potential first lady list are her close aide and controversial confidante, Huma Abedin, and popular former first daughter, Chelsea Clinton-Mezvinsky.

A Clinton campaign source revealed that Chelsea and Huma ‘are being seriously discussed’ for the first lady spot. ‘Hillary firmly believes both Huma and Chelsea can handle the duties of the first lady with aplomb,’ said the source.
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October 10, 2015 7:23am
Manolo

Taking the piss and making fun of the nutter Corbyn: http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/david-cameron-calls-osama-bin-ladens-death-a-tragedy-pm-mocked-for-quoting-jeremy-corbyn-out-of-context/ar-AAfh1Yt?li=AAaeXZz&ocid=mailsignoutmd

David Cameron has been mocked for quoting Jeremy Corbyn out of context in his conference speech, with thousands sharing a video of him calling Osama bin Laden’s death “a tragedy”.
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October 10, 2015 7:39am
stephieboy

Manolo, do you now accept that your great black hope iDr Ben Carson is not at all with it ?

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/ben-carson-is-almost-certainly-suffering-from-a-mental-illness-its-time-we-address-the-matter/22741/

That the CIA and Israel secretly cerated and funded the Islamic state as per Reid ‘s recent insane posts?
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October 10, 2015 7:44am
Manolo

Do not get too excited, stephieboy. There are long months to go until the first primary in February 2016, and anything could happen until then. I advise you to be patient.
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October 10, 2015 7:53am
Manolo

Off to watch the rugby. Go the All Blacks!
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