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October 8, 2015 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 8 October 2015

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Chuck Bird

@Reid

We could save a lot of money by getting rid of judges and juries. We try everyone on Kiwiblog.

I think it is pretty obvious that the brother or step-brother is in jail but do you think he may be entitled to a trial?
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October 8, 2015 10:01pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Just had some fun over at the Stranded

6 folk posting on their Open Mike and Daily Review since 6pm

about 30 different bods posting on General Debate here since 6pm.

Maybe they’ve gotta discover religion over @ the standard.
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October 8, 2015 10:02pm
stigie

“Maybe they’ve gotta discover religion over @ the standard”.

I will talk to the effeminate Lyn Prentice first thing in the morning Maggy…?
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October 8, 2015 10:06pm
Reid

I think it is pretty obvious that the brother or step-brother is in jail but do you think he may be entitled to a trial?

No, I think we all know what happened Chuck.

Trials should only happen when we don’t.

Anything else is a waste of precious tax dollars.
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October 8, 2015 10:07pm
Scott Chris

Hmmm, rather than ‘U Tu’ they could call it U2 and be “pro bono”.

Haha. And if they all start stabbing each other in the back I will call them; Et tu Brute?
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October 8, 2015 10:22pm
EAD

From the same folks who bring you the filth that is “boobs on bikes”

http://smoloko.com/?p=7570
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October 9, 2015 6:41am
EAD

Putin is the real deal – pointing the finger directly at those who are funding and backing ISIS

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3261603/Don-t-make-worse-Helicopters-drop-leaflets-ISIS-rebel-fighters-warning-ahead-huge-Russian-backed-ground-offensive.html
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October 9, 2015 6:46am
Viking2

ANOTHER HIGHLY EDUCATED SCIENTIFIC BUILDING AND HEALTH COCKUP IN NZ.

A deadly disease which cost a woman both her feet could be lurking in our hot water systems, despite official requirements designed to prevent it.

The Hawke’s Bay woman was one of two separate cases to have contracted legionellosis, also known as legionnaires’ disease, which is a potentially fatal type of pneumonia.

She was admitted to Hawke’s Bay Hospital on June 16 and is still in hospital.

The other victim, a man in his 80s, was admitted in late April and discharged in early May.

Tests on the water in both victims’ homes found the presence of legionella bacteria, which can cause legionellosis, when it is inhaled in the form of vapour or steam containing the bacteria.

Legionella bacteria can grow in water temperatures of 20-45 degrees Celsius. They thrive at temperatures of 32C-44C, but can’t live at 60C or higher. People are advised to keep their cylinders set at 60C for this reason.

Hawke’s Bay District Health Board initially thought the woman may have contracted the disease because the temperature on her hot water cylinder had been set to somewhere between 50-55C.

But the board has since discovered that the gauge was misread, and that the temperature was actually set somewhere between 60-65C.

In a letter to the woman and her husband last month the DHB’s medical officer of health Nick Jones said the contamination had occurred “despite having the cylinder set at the recommended temperature”.

Subsequent investigations had revealed there was a tempering valve between the hot water cylinder and the tap, and that the bacteria had grown in this part of the system.

Jones advised the couple that as a result of this case the DHB had requested that the Ministry of Health “review the evidence for current hot water temperature recommendations”

Institute of Environmental Science and Research microbiologist David Hart said while water should be stored at at least 60C, it did present a scalding risk at that temperature.

The Building Act recommended that hot water coming out of the tap should be no hotter than 55C.

In facilities with children or elderly people, the temperature should be no higher than 45C.

This was often done through the use of a tempering valve, which mixed cold water with hot water from the cylinder. If done correctly this would mean the hot water at the tap was at 55C (or 45C for elderly or young) but if too much cold water was mixed in it could bring the temperature down to a level at which the bacteria could flourish.

“The best way to lower the temperature at the tap is by installing a tempering valve as close as possible to the outlet,” Hart said.

“Most modern homes have mixer taps where the tempering can be done at the tap which is even better.”

Many hot water cylinders have an adjustable temperature knob so they can be set at 60C, but some models may need a plumber or electrician to adjust them.

Hart said the only way to accurately ensure a hot water system was safe was to check the temperature of hot water coming out of the tap by putting a thermometer beneath the running water.

Health Ministry’s acting director of public health, Stewart Jessamine, said contracting Legionella from hot water was very rare.

Detailed investigations were carried out into the source of individual cases of Legionella, and guidelines were regularly reviewed and updated, he said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/72781724/tests-show-legionnaires-bug-could-be-present-in-many-hot-water-systems
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SO WHO IS GOING TO OWN UP IN ANY GOVT. DEPT LIKE BUILDING AND HOUSING OR HEALTH FOR THIS FUCKUP.?
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October 9, 2015 7:01am
Griff

😆
When I built the batch we were made to have an inspector come and check the temperature of the hot water .
120 bucks for some wonk with a clip board to turn up and do nothing.
Its though flow gas and the controls and a temperature read out are on the bathroom wall.
We often have to re set it because of power cuts.
It was just bullshit box ticking as we adjust the hot water temperature to suit our self’s from winter hotter to summer colder not to some council controlled arbitrary specs.
As well as this I installed the water heating system my self.
I was required to only use only a 9kg gas tank not a big one.
Saved 500 odd bucks from not needing a gas fitter to come and connect the one external gas fitting just like on your bbq.
The wonks have closed this loop hole to keep us being screwed by gas fitters capture of all gas installations if it is a matter of safety or not

BRANZ building industry making us pay them more for nothing
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October 9, 2015 7:18am
Manolo

Could someone tell Lynn Prentice, Ginga Hughes and Chris Carter? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3265248/Homosexuality-imprinted-genes-Scientists-predict-gay-70-cent-accuracy.html
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October 9, 2015 7:20am
stephieboy

EAD, Putin the real deal ? These ISIS T55 and T62 tanks and other Russian weopans made in secret US and Israeli bases ?,

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/weapons-of-isis.asp

Yeah Right !
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October 9, 2015 7:34am
Manolo

Like it or not, Putin is making Obama look like the feeble amateur he is, and the Russians are getting away with it.
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