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Here you go Kiwibloggers – some more (unpalatable) FACTS?

http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/2012-2013/Conduct#_Toc325623491

” … On 6 December 2007 the then Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, released Standards of Ministerial Ethics which replaced chapter 5 of the Howard Code. The new Standards included:

the requirement that lobbyists register their details on a register of lobbyists before seeking access to ministers or their offices

rules on the post-separation employment of ministers

a ban on electoral fundraising at the Prime Minister’s official residences and

requirements that ministers divest themselves of all shareholdings or place their shares in broad superannuation or trust funds. ..”

So – if John Key was the Prime Minister of Australia – he would NOT be permitted to openly own shares in the Bank of America.

FACT.

Penny Bright
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October 5, 2015 12:33pm
Kimbo

@ publicwatchdog

Whatever Kimbo.

The FACTs are that you cannot provide the evidence that Professor Jane Kelsey has stated anything that is factually inaccurate.

You may be right Penny. Or you may be wrong.

However, as you’ve given no standard by which we can mutually measure and then decide Kelsey is wrong, your bold assertion that I “cannot provide the evidence” is, based on our exchanges thus far, presumptuous.

Or do you suggest the All Blacks turn up to play without an agreed set of rules and with their opponents also acting as the referee?! Just as well you ain’t coaching ’em!
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October 5, 2015 12:33pm
starboard

..But he’s not the PM of Australia silly billy..so he can do what he likes Pen.
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October 5, 2015 12:34pm
mikenmild

Good old starboard.
Mention Jane Kelsey and all he can think of is homosexuality. Fixated much?
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October 5, 2015 12:35pm
Paulus Gnome

Well that’s Radio Live screwed for the week.

Plunket is on holiday so we have the ‘world will be a better place with more socialism’ David Slack taking calls from the Penny dreadful about the TPPA being a John Key in league with the Bank of America for personal gain.

No challenge by Slack, just let the whole diatribe spill out; Slack by name, slack by nature.

That crap is to be followed by Ali Mau, on her own, as the left wing ignorant co-host is away; speaking with Jane Kelsey on, what does one think the topic will be?

The TPPA!

Quelle surprise! Left leaning nut bars are abounding, no chance of a balanced view point with that line up then!

Crap left wing journalism alive and at its best on a radio station near you.!
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October 5, 2015 12:37pm
starboard

Yes milky , she is an old muffer from way back. A real ugly one as well. I bet she even has a penis MM and that penis will be bigger than yours. What do you think?
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October 5, 2015 12:38pm
Komata

Pennelope

Re: ‘…you cannot provide the evidence that Professor Jane Kelsey has stated anything that is factually inaccurate’.

OK (and to follow YOUR line of reasoning) prove to us that Jane Kelsey HAS stated anything that IS factually ACCURATE?

You are very quick to denigrate and deride, so now ‘put up’ and prove that the prof HAS made an accurate statement.

Given your adoration for the lady as one of your own, it shouldn’t be hard….
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October 5, 2015 12:39pm
AgentBallSack

Professor Jane Kelsey is speaking NOW on Radio Live.

Jane Kelsey has an MPhil from the University of Cambridge and a PhD from the University of Auckland. She has worked at the University of Auckland since 1979 and was appointed to a personal Chair in Law in 1997. At Cambridge “left-thinking Marxist scholars … taught her the political theory that … underpins her daily work”

I think I would rather hear the sound of someone slitting my throat.
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October 5, 2015 12:40pm
Griff

Griff, if climate modelling is so important and critical, then why have none of the model predictions, going back years, come to pass? They’ve all been wrong, including predictions in 2007 that said the Arctic Summers would be ice-free by 2013?

Yip Fletch
Show me a single climate model that predicted an ice free arctic please mate.
There is none that do.
You know back your claim with something besides the misquoted view of one scientist.
Even on your story others are saying 2030 at the earliest.

Discussing the possibility for an open Arctic ocean in summer months, he told the meeting: “A few years ago, even I was thinking 2050, 2070, out beyond the year 2100, because that’s what our models were telling us. But as we’ve seen, the models aren’t fast enough right now; we are losing ice at a much more rapid rate.

The IPCC predicts that summer sea ice will disappear around around 2040 to 2100 can I borrow that time machine of yours please ?
Try peer reviewed science in reputable journals that is how science knowledge is communicated not in the MSM.
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October 5, 2015 12:40pm
starboard

Radio Live..do people still listen to that ?
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October 5, 2015 12:45pm
AgentBallSack

All chant together, “Big business bad, communism good.”. “Big business bad, communism good.”. “Big business bad, communism good.”.

According to Marxist analysis, class conflict within capitalism arises due to intensifying contradictions between highly productive mechanized and socialized production performed by the proletariat, and private ownership and appropriation of the surplus product in the form of surplus value (profit) by a small minority of private owners called the bourgeoisie. As the contradiction becomes apparent to the proletariat, social unrest between the two antagonistic classes intensifies, culminating in a social revolution. The eventual long-term outcome of this revolution would be the establishment of socialism – a socioeconomic system based on cooperative ownership of the means of production, distribution based on one’s contribution, and production organized directly for use. Karl Marx hypothesized that, as the productive forces and technology continued to advance, socialism would eventually give way to a communist stage of social development. Communism would be a classless, stateless, humane society erected on common ownership and the principle of “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”.
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October 5, 2015 12:46pm
Fletch

Yip Fletch
Show me a single climate model that predicted an ice free arctic please mate.

I said Arctic Summers that were ice-free by 2013, and the link was in my last post.

Scientists in the US have presented one of the most dramatic forecasts yet for the disappearance of Arctic sea ice.
Their latest modelling studies indicate northern polar waters could be ice-free in summers within just 5-6 years.
Professor Wieslaw Maslowski told an American Geophysical Union meeting that previous projections had underestimated the processes now driving ice loss.

“Our projection of 2013 for the removal of ice in summer is not accounting for the last two minima, in 2005 and 2007,” the researcher from the Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, California, explained to the BBC.
“So given that fact, you can argue that may be our projection of 2013 is already too conservative.”

Using supercomputers to crunch through possible future outcomes has become a standard part of climate science in recent years.
Professor Maslowski’s group, which includes co-workers at Nasa and the Institute of Oceanology, Polish Academy of Sciences (PAS), is well known for producing modelled dates that are in advance of other teams.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7139797.stm

BZZZZZ! Wrong.

In reality, the Arctic ice is now as thick as it was 75 years ago.

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/09/24/arctic-sea-ice-thickness-is-identical-to-75-years-ago/
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October 5, 2015 12:50pm
alloytoo

@penny

So – if John Key was the Prime Minister of Australia – he would NOT be permitted to openly own shares in the Bank of America.

FACT.
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It’s also irrelevant Penny

If Penny default on her rates in Sydney her house would probably been sold up by now.

FACT
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October 5, 2015 12:51pm
AgentBallSack

Penny just needs a good boink.
I thought Dennis was the man with the prose to get her gushing but he deleted his Kiwiblog dating profile and disappeared as soon as it was suggested. Looks like we’re relying on Starboard to man up and take one for the team.
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October 5, 2015 1:00pm
Keeping Stock

I’m sure John Key is quaking in his boots at the “almost 300” signatures you managed to get on your “Walk Away” petition Penny. Being a glass half full guy, I’m sure he’s more concerned with the 4,499,700-plus New Zealanders who didn’t sign your petition because they actually support New Zealand growing its export markets, or they don’t care about your tinfoil hat stuff.

I mean Penny, that’s not even as many as the 420 poor souls who pitied you and gave you their electorate vote in Helensville last year, leaving you just 22,300 votes behind the bloke you so despise.
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October 5, 2015 1:03pm
Keeping Stock

@ ABS – thanks a bloody bunch. Now I don’t feel like eating my lunch…
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October 5, 2015 1:04pm
publicwatchdog

So the long-awaited Press Conference on the TPPA has been delayed indefinitely?

(Was supposed to be announced at 9am – then 11am – then 1pm – then 3pm ….
now indefinitely delayed?

Sounds like it is indeed ‘Maui Mark 2’?

ie: CLUNK?

If so – I guess some people will be grumpy about that – but I won’t be one of them.

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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October 5, 2015 1:16pm
Kimbo

Isn’t Kelsey a bitter old lesbian from way back ? The real man hating kind ?

No one with any brains cares about her sexuality. And as per I post I saw from a member of the ACT party who had her as a lecturer, she has a generous attitude with her time and knowledge to all her students. Good on her for that, and it was never in dispute.

What is is her judgement, particularly that Marxist prism through which she views reality especially economics, that causes her to decide that no matter what is in the detail of the TPPA…of its very nature it is ‘nasty globalisation’…so she is automatically ‘agin it.
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October 5, 2015 1:18pm
Jack5

The fighting fund to get justice for Royal Marines Sergeant Blackman has reached 750,000 pounds (1.755 million NZD). Blackman is serving a life sentence for killing a wounded Taleban.

Author Frederick Forsyth is heading the appeal for Sergeant Blackman, the only known British serviceman to be convicted of murder on a foreign battlefield.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3259939/Fighting-fund-jailed-Marine-tops-750-000-30-000-generous-readers-help-battle-justice.html#ixzz3neF1qjCA
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October 5, 2015 1:18pm
publicwatchdog

Ahhh … Keeping Stock – it’s only the beginning…..

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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October 5, 2015 1:19pm
Griff

😆
Steve Goddard
Is he a scientist Fletch?
Is he even a real person ?
😆
nope.
Steve Goddard real name Tony Hella makes a claim on a blog based on a newspaper clipping from NZ and you think it proves something.
It proves yet again that a fuckwit believes any old crap posted on the internet without checking the source or the Provence.
Critical thinking skills seem to be sadly lacking in the bundle of methods you use to understand the world around you.
How did they get around to measure sea ice back in the day Fletch dog sleds and drills ?
They didn’t of course its just a random piece in some newspaper.
We do have methods to measure sea ice in the past .
These tell us that the present state hasn’t been seen for many thousands of years.
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/faq/#summer_ice
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October 5, 2015 1:34pm
Captain Mainwaring

publicwatchdog (4,601 comments) says:
October 5th, 2015 at 12:06 pm
What is factually inaccurate about this?

http://www.parliament.nz/resource/en-nz/00CLOOCMPPFinInterests20151/8bb43d9064b110c19c88349a36301a9580cfb3ed

Who gives a flying fuck?
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October 5, 2015 1:37pm
starboard

Yeah Id have a go Ballsack..but as shes the self titled watchdog..does that mean I have to do her doggy ? I mean..gawd forbid having to stare into her eyes..
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October 5, 2015 1:38pm
Rich Prick

What’s with the obsession with Bank of America shares? I have some, acquired three years ago at US$5.56, currently trading at US$15.40. Any one would think they are shares in Satan himself by all the carry on here.
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October 5, 2015 1:48pm
Fletch

Griff, the ice is currently over two metres thick, the same as 75 years ago.

http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/hycomARC/navo/arcticictn/nowcast/ictn2015092218_2015093000_041_arcticictn.001.gif
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October 5, 2015 1:49pm
Griff

😆
yip Fletch
and the body of Jesus is really present in your crackers and wine ……
Steve Goddard 😆
Gullible fuckwits believe any old crap….
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October 5, 2015 1:59pm
Captain Mainwaring

If downticks could somehow be swapped for votes, Penny would have won Helensville with a majority of about two million.
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October 5, 2015 2:07pm
dime

Is there a chick working at stuff who cant find a man and is now trying to cheer herself up?

last week it was – being single and over 40 is fun.
yesterday it was – the term spinster is outdated, many women choosing to be single
today its – ‘Singledom does not define me’

todays GEM is about some chick who was married for 10 years, had 2 kids.. then i guess got bored so destroyed a family.

now she tells how shes single, successful, selfish and happy.

gotta feel for the kids, bet shes a cold bitch

why did Dime read it? well, i was already angry and this weeks theme and decided id like to be a little bit angrier 🙂
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October 5, 2015 2:08pm
Manolo

Once a powerful post, now reduced to a caricature thanks to the feeble Obama: http://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-chief-arrives-europe-amid-syria-crisis-191326345.html

US Defence Secretary Ashton Carter arrived in Madrid on Sunday, beginning a European tour amid alarm over Russian bombardments in Syria and the refugee crisis sparked by the conflict.
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October 5, 2015 2:44pm
Manolo

Only big bruv, a dedicated fan, can resolve the situation and smooth the differences: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/11911301/England-knocked-out-of-World-Cup-Billy-Vunipola-denies-saying-Sam-Burgess-inclusion-caused-rift-in-camp.html

England’s humiliating World Cup exit has plunged the Rugby Football Union into turmoil with pressure increasing on the positions of both Stuart Lancaster and Ian Ritchie, frustration growing among the squad over the perceived preferential treatment of Sam Burgess and disquiet over the influence of Andy Farrell in selection decisions.
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October 5, 2015 2:49pm
Tauhei Notts

Dime quotes a woman (2.08 p.m. above) who says that the term spinster is now outdated.
I imagine that it is as outdated as the term “harridan”.
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October 5, 2015 2:56pm
Ross12

News flash Griff — your friends are now saying it is nothing to do with the climate, models , melting ice or anything else you mention. It is all politics and money.

“The United States or China or Tuvalu, to choose a tiny little economy – none of them are doing this to save the planet.

Maybe it surprises you that I say that,” Figueres, the Executive Secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, told CBS News in an exclusive interview.

“Let’s be realistic here,” she continued.

“All of these countries are putting their best foot forward because they understand it’s good for their economies.”
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October 5, 2015 2:59pm
Komata

RP

Re: ‘Any one would think they are shares in Satan himself by all the carry on here’.

As you will have noticed (and be very aware i suspect) ‘all the carry on here’ is at the behest of one specific individual, and yes, this self-same individual would indeed seem to believe that that that John Key is indeed the deity that you mentioned, albeit in human form.

It’s apparently part of a mental condition known as ‘Key Derangement Syndrome’ which afflicts dedicated NZ Marxist-Leninists’, but in this instance seems to be coupled with an additional affliction known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), which compounds the obsession.

The results are self-evident, and very, very sad.

The sufferer, of course, denies all knowledge of the affliction/s and, since it is ultimately all about her (due to the NPD affliction) continues to regale (harrangue?) us with her achievements and beliefs.
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October 5, 2015 3:09pm
DJP6-25

AgentBallSack 8:45 am. Regardless of whether or not one likes Putin; nobody can accuse him of lacking patriotism. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t think the CIS is the cause of all the world’s problems. He certainly has the measure of 0.
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October 5, 2015 3:12pm
KevinH

With regard to biometrics Prof Kelsey is on record as stating that the TPPA will add millions to Pharmacs costs. Prof Kelsey has not specifically given an example of which drug, new or existing, that she refers to.
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October 5, 2015 3:13pm
Jack5

NZ opens the immigration doors to lesbians:

Radio NZ reports a Fijian Indian woman’s deportation has been blocked because of the prejudice she might encounter in Fiji.

Radio NZ reports:

The Immigration and Protection Tribunal said if the woman was deported the couple would likely be separated as they could not readily live together for any period in Fiji.

“The appellant has not declared her relationship to her family in Fiji. She describes them as typical villagers and very religious.

“They have little knowledge of same-sex relationships which are not acceptable in Indian culture so they would be heavily critical and ashamed.

“She fears that their shame could be so extreme that they might even contemplate suicide.

So if the Fijian Indian woman was married to a man, she would be deported.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/286010/lesbian-wins-deportation-battle
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October 5, 2015 3:20pm
mandk

This can’t be true. Reds and Greens keep telling us that the poor are getting poorer.

“Using the new benchmark, the World Bank projects that 702 million people or 9.6 percent of the world’s population will be living in extreme poverty in 2015, down from 902 million people or 12.8 percent of the global population in 2012.”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/72712389/worlds-extremely-poor-to-fall-below-10-percent-of-global-population
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October 5, 2015 3:27pm
Komata

Kevin H

But she just ‘knows’ and for those of a left-leaning political persuasion that is enough; in their minds and world the case is proven, the matter is settled, the case closed. The gweens and their fellow-travellers also indulge in this practice (frequently, I might add).

Of course, SHOULD they actually be wrong, the silence will be deafening, and an apology NEVER forthcoming.
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October 5, 2015 3:29pm
Stars And Stripes

Good post Jack5. So now we have another excuse to avoid deportation, because you are a lesbian.
You can absolutely guarantee that if she was white and heterosexual she would have been deported long ago.
More PC bullshit to add to the long list of crap decisions from these do gooders on the Immigration And Protection Tribunal.
Sooner it is done away with the better and replaced with some people who don’t vote for the Green Party the better.
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October 5, 2015 3:41pm
Nostradamus

Well, seeing as Penny Bright is going after John Key for matters that he’s disclosed in the MP pecuniary interests register, she’d better go after these people too:

David Cunliffe (Labour, New Lynn)
12 Discharged debts
Miscellaneous expenses including reimbursement of volunteers for sundry expenses relating to 2013 New Zealand Labour Party leadership campaign – TR Trust

[Nostradamus: How much was reimbursed, to whom, and why?]

Julie Anne Genter (Green, List)
2 Other companies and business entities
MRCagney – transport and planning consultancy
7 Superannuation schemes
Roth IRA retirement fund invested with Charles Schwab (United States)

[Nostradamus: Genter often comments on trasnport issues – is there a conflict with her financial interest in MRCagney? And why is she associated with a US retirement fund?]

Fletcher Tabuteau (NZ First, List)
2 Other companies and business entities
Berkshire Hathaway Inc – financial investments

[Nostradamus: Oh my goodness – Tabuteau has a financial investment in a US company!]

Jenny Salesa (Labour, Manukau East)
2 Other companies and business entities
Apple – computer IT company
Google – computer IT company
National Oilwell Varco – worldwide provider of equipment for oil and gas drilling, production, oilfield services and supply chain integration services
General Electric Limited – a multinational conglomerate United States corporation

[Nostradamus: Salesa has financial investments in US comnpanies – including one that promotes harmful environmental activities!]

My point is that Penny is being parochial – and hypocritical – by focusing on John Key’s declared shareholding in Bank of America.
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October 5, 2015 4:05pm
Padriv Ustoev

@Jack5

This is excellentnNews. I have a business partner in Pakistan, who how you say: likes to make love to young men.
He is well known in his town, and it is against their culture, but he is rich so it’s ok.
He wanted to move to NZ for many years now, I must give him a call.
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October 5, 2015 4:09pm
Inandout

Maggy Wassilieff 11.13: I shall need to consult the sexual behaviour section of my Koran before I can give a definitive answer.
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October 5, 2015 4:15pm
Captain Mainwaring

Penny being hypocritical ???? Wash your mouth out.
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October 5, 2015 4:17pm
Griff

Ross12
news flash for you .
The politics is a bye and bye has been for the last decade.
We humanity are fucked.
No matter what the worlds economy’s do it is much to little to late.
We have zero chance of keeping warming within the agreed limit of two degrees.
probably even within three.
Thirty years and we will think what is happening now with isis and Syria is a minor issue compared to the wars over land, food, water resources and migration of the displaced that are coming .
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October 5, 2015 4:29pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

maybe there would be a useful role for ISIS in New Zealand – getting rid of all those pesky old heritage buildings.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34440759
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October 5, 2015 4:34pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

My granddad, viewing earth’s worn cogs,
Said things were going to the dogs;
His granddad in his house of logs,
Said things were going to the dogs;
His granddad in the Flemish bogs.
Said things were going to the dogs;
His granddad in his old skin togs,
Said things were going to the dogs;
There’s one thing that I have to state –
The dogs have had a good long wait.
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October 5, 2015 4:37pm
Griff

UrbanNeocolonialist

It ain’t the musings of your granddad or your frequent dropping of garbage only to run away we are talking about.

The Fermi Paradox and Seneca cliffs is suggested bedtime reading.
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October 5, 2015 4:42pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Inandout

Maggy Wassilieff 11.13: I shall need to consult the sexual behaviour section of my Koran before I can give a definitive answer.

No, you don’t need to consult all those verses….. I’m an infidel, you are not allowed to touch me.
http://www.justaskislam.com/69/shaking-hands-with-women/

I just want to be assured that I’m not interfering with your spiritual health.
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October 5, 2015 5:22pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Griff, I don’t normally discuss your thermogeddon millennialist fantasies with you because your myopic faith-based irrationality (denying reality and the abject failure of climate models) is heedless of reason or argument. I may as well talk to a rock. Much the same as EAD, Reid Ugly and Penny are not worth engaging with on their particular topics of delusion.

But sometimes the magnitude of stupid you parrot from your priests overwhelms my ability to bite my tongue. And staying quiet as credulous fools like you continue to spout pseudo-scientific garbage is not really doing the world any favours either, so:

2 degrees temperature rise my hairy arse. 0.7-0.8°C global temp rise in last 100 years, rising at about 1.1°C per century for last 40 years, no sign of acceleration – in fact quite the opposite it appears to have nearly halted over last 1-2 decades. Your’s is a cult founded during an abrupt temp surge in 1990’s (that hasn’t continued) and made strong by the 10’s of thousands of grasping hands in previously low-status fields of study who found in it a fantastic excuse to feather their pockets ( to the tune of 10’s of billions so far). Open your fucking eyes.
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October 5, 2015 5:47pm
Inandout

Maggy Wassilieff: My spiritual health dwells in the contents of Captain Morgan. I would be a bad, bad Muslim, and consequently you would not be safe in my company.
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October 5, 2015 5:55pm
Griff

😆
The abject failure of climate models
and were did you find this startling fact?
Not on any actual science based site that is for sure.
http://www.wunderground.com/climate/facts/models_are_reliable.asp
My fantasy are those shared by the worlds scientific community.
Yours are nothing but stupid long ago debunked talking points from the likes of A Watts,Dr Roy Spencer and the other whack’s in the three percent …..

2 degrees temperature rise my hairy arse. 0.7-0.8°C global temp rise in last 100 years,

Pulled from your hairy arse more like it.
Posting such a piece of crap is typical pathetic rubbish I have come to expect from loons like you.
The year to August was 0.81°C above the 1951-1980 mean..You do understand what that means dont you?

http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2015/09/watching-global-thermometer-year-to.html

A global conspiracy of scientists all in it for the money is the talk of a conspiracy driven lunatic.

The scientist at nasa et al dont need to tell lies to continue to work.
Unlike your fringe loons.
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October 5, 2015 6:07pm
Nostradamus

The ongoing climate change debate with Griff reminds me of a scene of Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa. It’s Griff (Alex) against just about everyone else (Teetsi):

Zuba – “Let us begin the initiation ceremony!”
Florrie – “GO ALAKAY! C’MON BABY! MAKE MAMA PROUD!”
Zuba – “Doggone it, Florrie! I’m trying to do work here!”
Florrie – “GO ALAKAY, WOO!”
Alex – “I’m on it mom!”
Zuba – “So, who will be the first participant?”
Alex – “Oh, Me, Me! Choose me!”
Zuba – “Hmm, how about you? *points to Alex* the tall, handsome lion there, choose your opponent.”
Alex – “Let me see, I guess I’ll pick, Teetsi!”
*lions gasp*
Florrie – “Teetsi? Why did he pick Teetsi?”
Zuba – “Oh that’s my boy! He’s got gumption! *points to Teetsi* Somebody wake him up.”
*a random lion takes a fake boulder and drops it on Teetsi’s head, this of course wakes him up, he walks into the ring and give a loud roar to Alex.*
Alex – “All right, so let’s do this Teetsi. Come on, Teetsi fly. Come on, bring it!”
Teetsi – “Let’s dance!”
Alex – “Okay.”
*Alex begins to tap dance around Teetsi*
Teetsi – “Not dance dance, fight!”
Alex – “Oh, dance fight! You got it!”
*Alex snaps fingers and shuffled like he’s in a broadway musical*
Florrie – “Is he dancing? I know that boy is not dancing!”
Makunga – “This is going to be even better than I thought!”
*Alex turns his back to Teetsi and begins to wiggle his hips*
Zuba – “Alakay! Turn around!”
Alex – “No, no pop. The steps go hop-shuffle-hip-swish, then turn around.”
*Alex finally turns around, and Teetsi basically barrels him into a nearby boulder, winning the fight. Zuba and Florrie immedatelly run to their son*
Zuba – “Oh, no.”
Florrie – “Alakay, are you alright?”
Alex – “No, did I win?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWTf14OMXQ
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October 5, 2015 6:14pm
thedavincimode

Starbuck

Warning: she likes it rough; pepper spray, handcuffs and a truncheon (no, the other kind). You’ll need to keep the uniform on too. And don’t expect her to pay your bill any time soon.
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October 5, 2015 6:23pm
Griff

The only problem with that nostra.
I am guaranteed to win in the long run.
You can not suspend the laws of physics no matter how desperately some are trying to deny the realty.
The only problem with that is.
I will not get satisfaction from the victory.
In the end we all lose……
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October 5, 2015 6:23pm
thedavincimode

Starbuck

… and as for the “doggy”: check with dad4dementia; he’s the most the most likely candidate to have inspected a welder’s arse at close range before.
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October 5, 2015 6:32pm
Griff

Interesting new tax agreement within the oecd.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11524049

OECD poised to release new tax dodge rules
In what will be the biggest change to the international tax rule book since it was put in place before World War 2, the OECD will tomorrow (4 am Tuesday 6 October) release its final recommendations for combatting multinational companies’ tax avoidance strategies.

Global rules are changing. These changes will affect many aspects of how business is done worldwide.

• There will be more scrutiny of business’ tax affairs. Businesses need to be ready for more transparency. They will soon be required to report on what they earn and how much tax is paid on a country-by-country basis. That information will be shared between tax authorities worldwide.

• Many businesses will need to rethink their approach to cross-border financing and may need to alter their operating structure.

• Tax reforms could affect the value attributed to future mergers and acquisitions.
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October 5, 2015 6:41pm
nasska

I remember some discussion about Dad & the welders Davinci although as I recall he was the catcher rather than the pitcher.

Still, he may be able to pass on a few pointers on what makes a good lateral, vertical & overhead.
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October 5, 2015 6:43pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Inandout

My spiritual health dwells in the contents of Captain Morgan.

Praise Allah for that. I think one hajji on KB is enough for the rest of us to cope with.
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October 5, 2015 6:47pm
cha

Righto, down the Project Apollo Flickr rabbit hole, I may be some time.

http://nerdist.com/nearly-10000-high-res-apollo-images-have-landed-on-flickr/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums
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October 5, 2015 6:48pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

The costs and realities of recycling.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/04/opinion/sunday/the-reign-of-recycling.html?smid=tw-nytopinion&smtyp=cur&_r=1
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October 5, 2015 6:50pm
Manolo

The harsh reality of international politics: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/putin-makes-obama-look-like-a-fool/
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October 5, 2015 6:54pm
cha

See, no stars – studio!!.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21683165055/
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October 5, 2015 6:57pm
publicwatchdog

The members of the G20 are Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Mexico, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Turkey, the United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union.

So – are the Trade Ministers from Australia, Canada, Japan, Mexico and the USA going to the G20 Trade Ministers’ meeting tomorrow – YES or NO?

Penny Bright
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October 5, 2015 7:16pm
Nostradamus

So – are the Trade Ministers from Australia, Canada, Japan, Mexico and the USA going to the G20 Trade Ministers’ meeting tomorrow – YES or NO?

Why don’t you issue one of your stupid self-promoting “open letters” and ask them?

You’ll be like a piece of bubble gum under their shoes so I doublt they’ll bother to respond, but one can only try, right?
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October 5, 2015 7:20pm
nasska

Penny

Were you aware that 79% of accidents happen in the home?

See, living on the street when your hovel gets sold to pay the rates & legal expenses may have a silver lining after all. 🙂
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October 5, 2015 7:24pm
publicwatchdog

It’s ok boyz.

I’m not interested in men who are not of good character and substance.

What appeals to me are men of good heart, brains, guts (not of the ‘beer’ variety), sense of humour, with a good understanding of the principles of natural justice and basic fairplay.

So most of you are safe.

(Meant of course in a caring way 🙂

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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October 5, 2015 7:27pm
nasska

…..”What appeals to me are men of good heart, brains, guts (not of the ‘beer’ variety), sense of humour, with a good understanding of the principles of natural justice and basic fairplay.”…..

David Garrett ticks all those boxes & he’s keen to meet up with you Penny. Can I get Nostradamus to don his Cupid costume & make the introductions? 🙂
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October 5, 2015 7:34pm
Nostradamus

Are you looking forward to your District Court hearing on 7 October as much as I am Penny?

Judgment day is coming!
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October 5, 2015 7:35pm
Griff

with a good understanding of the principles of natural justice

There is no justice in nature only life eats life….
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October 5, 2015 7:40pm
publicwatchdog

James Stephenson (2,706 comments) says:
October 5th, 2015 at 12:25 pm
Bank of America – banking

What’s factually inaccurate?

Well you’re trying to spin a conspiracy whilst omitting the relevant fact that John Key owns BoA shares because that’s what the Merrill Lynch shares he received whilst employed by them became, when BoA aquired ML.
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errr…. what ‘conspiracy’ am I trying to spin James?

I’ve just revealed the FACTS – straight from the NZ Parliamentary website?

Sorry that you can’t ‘handle the jandal’ James – but FACTS are FACTS and TRUTH is TRUTH.

Hey – but good on you for reading and commenting on my posts 🙂

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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October 5, 2015 7:41pm
publicwatchdog

I’ve already got a lovely man.

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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October 5, 2015 7:45pm
Tauhei Notts

I have seen plenty of stuff about Donald Trump, and have chatted over a beer or three with several people on this matter. All of them know more about Trump than any other American contender.
So I went to my favourite English betting site to see what the odds were.
Republican Party nominees were Jeb Bush @ $3.50, Rubio @ $3.75, Trump @ $7.80 and Fiorina @ $12.50.
Trump is getting heaps of publicity but the people who back their judgment with their own “hard earned” seem to think he is a joke.
If somebody could tell me how this galoot gets so much publicity I’d love to know.
By the way, Hilary is $1.50 favourite to get the Democratic nomination.
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October 5, 2015 7:47pm
Chuck Bird

What odds does Dr Carson get?
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October 5, 2015 7:56pm
Captain Mainwaring

publicwatchdog (4,605 comments) says:
October 5th, 2015 at 7:45 pm
“I’ve already got a lovely man.”

Kind regards

Penny Bright

So if he’s that lovely, why don’t you get him to pay the rates for you?
2 days to go.
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October 5, 2015 7:56pm
nasska

….”If somebody could tell me how this galoot gets so much publicity I’d love to know.”….

At a guess it’s because he is seen as the only non career politician on offer & as such stands out to a jaded used MSM. Coupled with this he is inspirational to middle America who have been screwed, blued & tattooed by every politician since Reagan.

He’s a blowhard & a bullshit artist but he’s saying what his audience want to hear.
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October 5, 2015 7:57pm
mikenmild

How is Trump inspirational? Born with a silver spoon in his mouth, multiple bankruptcies, racist, misogynist and anti-science. Wait, have I just described the ideal Republican candidate?
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October 5, 2015 8:06pm
stigie

“I’ve already got a lovely man”.

How is Johnboy these days ?
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October 5, 2015 8:13pm
renderer

Penny you should have been a classical composer, the crap you spout is all variations on a theme
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October 5, 2015 8:13pm
Reid

How is Trump inspirational?

He’s the only politician who’s not following the plastic, subservient line all the others do and have been for many many many many decades mm. The only politician since JFK, in fact.

It’s quite obvious, but hardcore lefties hallucinate propaganda is truth whereas truth actually and truly resides not in what the media says but in the ordinary person’s heart.

That’s possibly why you don’t get his appeal.
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October 5, 2015 8:22pm
Keeping Stock

The members of the G20 are Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Mexico, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Turkey, the United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union.

So – are the Trade Ministers from Australia, Canada, Japan, Mexico and the USA going to the G20 Trade Ministers’ meeting tomorrow – YES or NO?

Penny Bright

Who, other than yourself, Jane Kelsey and a few other sufferers of Key Derangement Syndrome actually gives a toss Penny? You’re like the boy who cried wolf; you’ve repeated the same slogans (or should that be “$logan$”?) so often, that most sensible people have tuned out, and got on with their lives.
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October 5, 2015 8:24pm
Nostradamus

Penny:

I’m not interested in men who are not of good character and substance.

What appeals to me are men of good heart, brains, guts (not of the ‘beer’ variety), sense of humour, with a good understanding of the principles of natural justice and basic fairplay.

So why – as revealed by Keeping Stock here – are you friends with John Wanoa (the violent thug who took over private property)?
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October 5, 2015 8:27pm
mikenmild

How would you know whether Trump was speaking the truth, Reid? He has changed his mind on virtually every political issue one could think of.
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October 5, 2015 8:28pm
Keeping Stock

Love your work Nostradamus 😀
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October 5, 2015 8:28pm
Griff

For the realists.
Scary shit if you watch the entire lecture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF1zNpzf8RM
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October 5, 2015 8:29pm
stigie

KS, dont expect answers anytime soon….

Penny is not transparent in any way, possibly corrupt and not fit for public office !~
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October 5, 2015 8:29pm
Reid

So why are you Facebook friends with…

Nosty,

a social media rejoinder?

Et Tu Brute.

All is ~~list~~ lost.
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October 5, 2015 8:32pm
Viking2

A Jewish boy comes home from school and tells his mother he has a part in the play.
She asks, “What part is it?”
The boy says, “I play the part of the Jewish husband.”
“The mother scowls and Says, “Go back and tell the teacher you want a speaking part.”

The Doctor gave a man six months to live. The man couldn’t pay his bill so the doctor gave him another six months.

The Doctor called Mrs. Cohen saying, “Mrs. Cohen, your check came back.
“Mrs. Cohen answered, “So did my arthritis!”

Q: Why are Jewish men circumcised?
A: Because Jewish women don’t like anything that Isn’t 20% off. 😮
😆 😆
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October 5, 2015 8:39pm
Reid

Scary shit if you watch the entire lecture.

I prefer not to watch paid-liar fiction posted on blogs Griff.

That way I avoid being scared.

Sometimes however I watch docos about how many people get sucked in by propaganda.

That scares me quite a bit.
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October 5, 2015 8:39pm
nasska

Reid

We are all judged by the company we keep. Nostra probably had something like this in mind: 🙂

One night in late October,
When I was far from sober,
Returning with my load with manly pride,
My poor feet began to stutter,
So I lay down in the gutter,
And a pig came near and lay down by my side;
Then we sang “It’s all fair weather when good fellows get together”,

Till a lady passing by was heard to say:
“You can tell a man who boozes,
By the company he chooses”,
And the pig got up and slowly walked away.
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October 5, 2015 8:40pm
Viking2

Well English and key had better hurry up and do some selling.

he number of people streaming video online could pass the number of people watching traditional TV in the next year, according to research by communications company Ericsson.

The latest TV and Media report released by the company showed the percentage of people globally streaming video from services such as Netflix, Lightbox or YouTube had increased from around 30 per cent in 2010 to more than 50 per cent this year.

Over the same period, the number of people watching traditional TV had dropped by around ten per cent.

In New Zealand, online TV viewing has grown 25 per cent in the last year with 51 per cent of households saying they watched TV or movies online.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11524208

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TV1 won’t be worth keeping in another year or so. Will go bankrupt like Solid Energy.
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October 5, 2015 8:44pm
Nostradamus

Reid:

Penny, being afflicted by Key Derangement Syndrome, often seeks to taint Key by the flimiest of associations with other people and information.

And Penny claims to be a highly-principled person so, to avoid accusations of hypocrisy, it’s surely only fair that we hold her to those high princples?
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October 5, 2015 8:45pm
Griff

That way I avoid being scared.
😆
yip reid you run around spurting massive conspiracy garbage gleaned from blogs.
The Zionist conspirowhacky.
and ignore the reputable information out there.
Its a university lecture based on information readily confirmed not some dribble found on RT, zero hedge or some other piece of crap off the blogosphere.

Professor Kevin Anderson is the Deputy Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research;[1] holds a joint chair in Energy and Climate Change at the School of Mechanical, Aerospace and Civil Engineering at the University of Manchester and School of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia; and is an honorary lecturer in Environmental Management at the Manchester Business School.[2][3] He is an adviser to the British Government (as of 2009) on climate change.[2]
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October 5, 2015 8:47pm
Scott Chris

It’s quite obvious, but hardcore lefties hallucinate propaganda is truth

I disagree Reid. Left and Right are as bad as each other in choosing to see what they want to see.

For example, many on the Left have condemned the TPPA without having even read it just as many on the Right rejected the Iran Nuclear deal without having read it. Both parties simply don’t like the messenger regardless of what the message actually is.
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October 5, 2015 8:58pm
Reid

Both parties simply don’t like the messenger regardless of what the message actually is.

It’s a good start on the long long road to the truth Scott. Shame more people don’t practice the practice regardless of the message. Maybe then the world might start becoming a better place.
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October 5, 2015 9:41pm
Nostalgia-NZ

Here’s something a Judge said about the obligations of Council in the proceedings against Penny.

‘Judge Mary Beth Sharp also disclosed the view that the ‘imperative’ for a rate payer to pay their rates did not ‘crystallize’ until the Council had fulfilled its obligations to rate payers.’

Further into the comments the Judge was also concerned that Council didn’t know how much it was claimed Penny owed, with 1 council staffer claiming that it was ‘complex to determine the right amount.

If the hearing that nostra is so excited about this month is actually do with council fulfilling its imperative I can understand why, but somehow I think nostra’s interest in Penny is that of a stalker and he or she wouldn’t go near the hearing for fear of outing his or her dear self. The same goes for the auction that he or she obviously gets so excited about and takes pleasure in raising at every opportunity despite that it is unlikely to happen. Besides that he or she might feel quite inadequate in ‘real life’ without the need to apparently defend JK (projection to a good cause much?) who obviously is well capable of looking after himself and the country.

However, if the hearing is about the dismissal of Penny’s writ for damages against a council staffer, no doubt the same careful discretion would apply probably for the reason Penny herself often points out – lack of intestinal fortitude. But who knows, damus, who seems to follow everything that happens to Penny with the need to constantly report it as someone with memory loss might do forgetting that they’re repeating themselves again and again, could indeed attend the hearing and cordially introduce his or herself to Ms Bright, as befits the conduct of a graduate with honours in Law, a trumpet and a pair of high heels.
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October 5, 2015 9:48pm
Jack5

Merkel the Mad is going to be hated by Germans in years to come. That is, if any are left in Germany. This is perhaps the greatest betrayal of a country in history.

Germany now expects that it may be inundated with up to 1.5 million economic migrants this year, and fears are growing that the mainly single migrants may then bring in as many as eight people each.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11911291/Germany-expects-up-to-1.5-million-migrants-in-2015.html
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October 5, 2015 9:51pm
Nostradamus

Nostalgia-NZ (6,012 comments) says:
October 4th, 2015 at 10:40 am

Yes, I see that Nookin. I’m not an avid follower, unfortunately the defamation proceedings by Penny (and not a council member as I inaccurately recalled) might be a bad call and open up a much wider flank far off the ball.

The thicko who needs remind of these matters is… you!
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October 5, 2015 9:57pm
Reid

And Penny claims to be a highly-principled person so, to avoid accusations of hypocrisy, it’s surely only fair that we hold her to those high principles?

It’s just Nosty after listening to Paul Henry’s Social Media Bunker segment in the shower because my damn radio can’t pick up any other station as I live in a gully, I’m just a bit contemptuous of those who use it in anyway whatsoever and my rage boileth over. I just can’t help myself anymore, for the moroninity thus forced upon me by the laws of physics has created a psyop in my inner being which requires me to let it out, whenever it surfaces, lest I explode.

Sorry about that, I’ll try to control it in future.

Have you ever listened to him?
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October 5, 2015 10:01pm
Nostalgia-NZ

Don’t get angry Nostra, just because I’m a thicko and it’s all about you. On second thoughts, have a little melt down – it will might do you good.
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October 5, 2015 10:11pm
Nookin

Nosty,

Seems that she may be friends with that doyen of political transparency, Greg Presland, AND the man with comoditised principles, Hone Harawira. She has been known to work with the extortionist McCready and has even visited the copyright king of coastville.
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