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October 30, 2015 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Griff

You do know that’s DPF’s position not mine girl?

By the way if you think science is a political construct and agreeing with all the major scientific body’s means you are not a liberal of any sort you need to get an education.

The last word gives the clue…. reason.
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October 30, 2015 9:59pm
starboard

Bit dull around here tonight trendsetters..everybody out glory holing I presume
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October 30, 2015 10:00pm
Awww C-mon

Back from Hagley already Starfreak? No takers or PME again??
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October 30, 2015 10:11pm
starboard

speaking of dull….
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October 30, 2015 10:14pm
Awww C-mon

@griff.

Economic Left/Right: 1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1

Geez, ACM the fence sitter by the look of that ?
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October 30, 2015 10:21pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Scott Hamilton 9:46pm

If any of the conservatives invoking the Frankfurters actually read, say, The Dialectic of Enlightenment, Horkheimer and Adorno’s most famous work,

I don’t think KBers do primary sources……..

much easier to have your thinking already done for you.
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October 30, 2015 10:44pm
SPC

wiseowl, who are you calling no one, me or Fletch?
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October 30, 2015 10:58pm
SPC

calendar girl, are you saying that there is a test for identifying as a liberal (rejecting climate change science)?

That’s the most illiberal thing ever said on the blog.
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October 30, 2015 11:31pm
Ryan Sproull

Thanks, Nostradamus. Quite right.

Honestly, in all of this, I find the undercurrent of “ooh, Jewish thinkers” most worrying about the invented nonsense about the Frankfurt School. Don’t get me wrong – Adorno and Marcuse, etc., said plenty of things worth disagreeing with. But to paint their writings as a conspiracy, by observing the world 30 years after they wrote, often in opposition to what they actually espoused… It’s hard not to see it as a kind of “ooh, Jewish thinkers!” complaint.

The Frankfurt School thinkers were smart. They critiqued things about our society and our media and our culture that need to be looked at. They may have been accurate or inaccurate.

But to invent a list that includes things like “make people drink lots of booze” and pin it up as their objectives?

Seriously. Obvious that they’ve never actually read anything by the Frankfurt School writers.
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October 30, 2015 11:49pm
Ryan Sproull

I don’t think KBers do primary sources……..

much easier to have your thinking already done for you.

Yep, Maggie.

Step one: Google something.
Step two: Find a bunch of blog posts echoing what you think.
Step three: Quote said blogs as further evidence that you were right all along.
(Step four: Ignore anyone who demands you critically analyse the origins of said quotes.)
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October 30, 2015 11:52pm
Scott Chris

Hi Ryan, remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5FyfQDO5g0
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October 31, 2015 1:09am
Griff

I don’t think KBers do primary sources……..

much easier to have your thinking already done for you.

ROFL
Yip maggy
Ryan Sproull @ 11:52 pm nailed your sorry arse to the wall.
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October 31, 2015 6:28am
Manolo

The minions rebel against the Nobel Peace Prize:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_UNITED_STATES_SYRIA_CONGRESS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-10-30-16-13-46

Congressional Democrats on Friday criticised President Barack Obama’s decision to dispatch a small band of U.S. special operations forces to northern Syria to help local fighters battle the Islamic State, saying they feared “mission creep” from a president who promised to end American involvement in two wars.
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