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Souvlaki

This country has lost its soul….dominated by PC emasculated castrati…FFS, what have we come to when the taxpayer (of which I am one),TV1 audience cannot hear the word “nigger” on air because it is too “sensitive” . We have lost the plot if we accept this rampant BS really! Control, control, control. Not using a perfectly descriptive word because it MAY be construed as offensive by the perpetually outraged sods (fat, obese, skinny,nigger for example are all words likely to whip these dorks into a frenzy) is tantamount to book burning….not that far removed in an intellectual sense, from f…ing ISIS and their dogma ! Think about it!
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October 24, 2015 8:01am
Chuck Bird

FYI

Editorial: Too much information robs office of dignity
5:00 AM Saturday Oct 24, 2015

How does John Key get away with these things? To expose himself on radio to personal questions to which he can answer only yes or no is bound to endanger the dignity of his office. Thanks to an appearance on Hauraki’s breakfast programme, we now know our Prime Minister has, among other things, stolen something and peed in a shower.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11534245
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October 24, 2015 8:02am
Viking2

THIS WILL MAKE YOUR DAY.
MORE NANNY SHIT FROM THE NATIONAL PARTY.

The days of dropping pithy curses at work could be numbered with a workplace safety expert saying a change in government guidelines will make employers clean up the cussing.

Workplace bullying expert Allan Halse said it will be potentially easier for bosses to be pinged by workers who are offended by swearing.

And there are already cases involving earthy professions such as firefighting which could end up closing the door on swearing.

The move to wash workers’ mouths out with soap come in a week in which a Waikato mayor conceded he used the term w****r and a Hamilton builder was ordered to pay up in an employment case after he used the f-word in a text to a worker he called a ‘baby’.

But while some are calling a clean-up political correctness gone mad Halse said the days of cursing like a sailor are ‘last-century’ and people shouldn’t expect to be able to use offensive language around others.

Halse said a change in workplace bullying guidelines in 2014 removed the need for employees to prove intent when it came to bullying behaviour. This means that workplaces with bad language were more vulnerable to a workplace bullying complaint from an employee even if the language wasn’t directed at an individual.

“If someone’s on the receiving end of those [words] and it is repeated and has a detrimental impact, that’s how you get to the bullying threshold, even suggestive glances or dirty looks,” he said.

“The person who’s the recipient of it, is the person who decides it’s ok. You can offend people without intending to.”

“The [male-dominated jobs] are where you have isolated groups of people that are living in the last century, they’ve never reached civilisation. They’re still behaving in a way that is foreign to sophisticated society, it’s just not acceptable [to swear in the workplace] anymore,” he said.

Halse said he had been involved with work like firefighting and ambulance crewing which developed cultures that often included salty language.

“A lot of the staunch blokes think it’s ok for people to be rough and swear and do all that stuff, and it’s not.”

Halse said he was no puritan and grew up in the country where his choice of vocabulary would offend the unoffendable.

“I could be as bad as anybody else, I was brought up with four brothers and no sisters and we were rough as old boots, we were country bumpkins, so it’s not until you actually get in amongst society, that you realise there are behaviours that you have to comply with.

“Just because we’re big and strong, doesn’t mean that we want to be called a w****r or a whole bunch of names.”

Waikato District Fire Commander Roy Breeze said like any other organisation, they have their challenges.

“Yes you get a unique culture [within the New Zealand Fire Service] because people are literally living together, particularly in a stressful environment like emergency services, but that doesn’t give anyone reason to offend,” he said.

“We do not tolerate any bullying or words that can create offence within the group or external to the group.”

Read more:

Builder awarded $5000 after being told to stop being a baby

Waikato mayor’s profanity sparks probe

Workplace bullying just as prevalent as domestic violence, according to forum

Waikato Registered Master Builders Association president Steve Ross, said policy set by the “PC brigade” is already having a detrimental effect to the building industry.

“As far as PC discussions go, we are going a bit over the top, where these young guys seem to be wrapped up in cotton wool, they want to be paid $50 an hour when they’ve just left school and have no skills whatsoever, but they think that the world owes them something and they have every right under the sun,” he said.

Ross said swearing is commonplace among trades, but generally workers are encouraged not to swear around customers.

“The whole industry is trying to tidy up their behaviour and the way they talk, especially if every second word’s a swear word. It’s not appropriate anymore,” he said.

Employment law specialist Andrea Twaddle, said the workplace environment and its culture and customs were considered when looking into any allegations of inappropriate language.

She said the tipping point will often be whether the comment is directed at a person or whether it’s conversational.

Waikato University linguist lecturer Dr Andreea Calude, said language changes all the time and it was about context.

She said when one person swears, the meaning that they associate with the word may not be the meaning another associates.

“There’s nothing about the sounds of swear words together that causes us some sort of unpleasant feeling, or the spelling, it’s all convention,” she said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/73323499/look-out-workplace-potty-mouths–swearing-at-work-a-nogo

SOONER THESE PRICKS GET SHAFTED THE BETTER.
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October 24, 2015 8:10am
Awww C-mon

The Key fans will say it’s part of his appeal, the anti Key faction will say it proves he is unfit to lead… The article makes that point Chuck.

For me it’s a matter of too many journo’s getting stories from Facebook and interviewing Twitter
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October 24, 2015 8:10am
Viking2

Yesterday, the Finance Minister, speaking at a social housing conference in Wellington, said the Government would come under huge political pressure to provide assistance to middle-income families if interest rates rose.

“As households get a bit stretched in meeting the rising cost of housing, it inevitably creates pressure for Government to lift the cash transfer programmes,” Mr English said.

He said that in the mid-2000s, interest rates of 8 to 9 per cent meant the Government had to compensate by making big increases in Working for Families subsidies and by introducing interest-free student loans.

The Government would rather “get the market right” than have to provide more assistance to families.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11534278

So Bill justifying interest free student loans.

Of course his memory is so bad he forgot about the early 80’s when we paid 20+ %

No wonder we are fucked up.
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October 24, 2015 8:11am
Viking2

And just to really make your day the Muslims are striking again in NZ.

LITTLE BY LITTLE WE CAN GET USED TO ANYTHING.

An aspiring criminal lawyer who came to New Zealand as a refugee from Afghanistan was turned away from a job interview because of her Muslim headscarf.

Fatima Mohammadi, 20, a former deputy head girl at Kelston Girls’ College who featured in her hijab on the college billboard that sits on a main Auckland thoroughfare, said it was the first time she’d been subjected to such discrimination.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11534284
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October 24, 2015 8:13am
Awww C-mon

Reposting all your 6am outrage from yesterday’s GD Viking??

If ‘these pricks’ got ‘shafted’ who would you replace them with?? Name a right wing party able to get 5% much less 25?
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October 24, 2015 8:14am
Viking2

So you are happy with the way they are going then?

Want your bum wiped as well?
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October 24, 2015 8:26am
Tauhei Notts

I cannot believe that in 2015 any employer would be silly enough to turn a job applicant away because she was wearing an Islamic head scarf.
In my day the employer would have politely listened to her, as they made a mental note to carefully draft that person’s “no job available” letter, which would have been placed on the dictaphone within seconds of that applicant becoming out of earshot.
Any employer dumb enough to engage in an argument with such a job applicant; well, how dumb are they?
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October 24, 2015 8:45am
billmurray

Little made the King deputy, he said Ardern did not want the job, Ardern concurred. Why did Ardern keep that from the public ‘before’ the decision. Lies from both Little and Ardern.
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October 24, 2015 8:53am
Nukuleka

Awww-Cmon: not sure that is exactly true. I like John Key but am immensely disappointed in his bothering to encourage the trash talk of Hauraki Breakfast and his determination to change the flag. That doesn’t mean I will stop voting National. Like us all John Key is fallible but he continues to be the best man for the PM’s job.

(I nearly went back and changed the ‘man’ to ‘person’ but decided against it. Bugger pc.)
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October 24, 2015 8:57am
itstricky

(I nearly went back and changed the ‘man’ to ‘person’ but decided against it. Bugger pc.)

What if I wrote ‘tane’. Would you throw yourself off the edge?
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October 24, 2015 9:02am
waikatogirl

Viking2
Halse said a change in workplace bullying guidelines in 2014 removed the need for employees to prove intent when it came to bullying behaviour. This means that workplaces with bad language were more vulnerable to a workplace bullying complaint from an employee even if the language wasn’t directed at an individual.
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The evil bullying bosses are those syrupy, back-stabbing, malicious, look you in the eye and set you up to fail ones.
Give me a boss who says it like it is but is GENUINE and real.
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October 24, 2015 9:04am
FeralScrote

Lol Viking ,if the clipboard carrying pinheaded jobsworths turn up to my place of work or go anywhere the the industry I spent 30 years in,their fucking heads will explode.
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October 24, 2015 9:06am
Odakyu-sen

Viking2

According to Ms Mohammadi, the manager of the Stewart Dawson store told her that “wearing a hijab was against company policy.”

First, fact to check is whether Stewart Dawson actually has such a policy. (James Pascoe group chief financial officer Kevin Turner commented, “This is by no means how we run our business. The interview should never have been done that way,” he said.” (This does not confirm whether or not there is a policy, and I imagine that the Group would want to keep it a secret if they did have one.)

I imagine the manager will be in hot water for embarrassing the company like that.

Tauhei is on to it.
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October 24, 2015 9:06am
Hugh Pavletich

CHRISTCHURCH RESIDENTIAL RENTS FALL THANKS TO NEW SUPPLY … CATHERINE HARRIS … FAIRFAX NZ

Christchurch rents slide 6.5 per cent in ( well … less than a ) year to September: Trade Me | Stuff.co.nz

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/73297010/christchurch-rents-slide-65-per-cent-in-year-to-september-trade-me

… extract …

… Christchurch rents have tumbled as increasing numbers of rental properties re-enter the market.

Median rents in the quake-hit city have fallen 6.5 per cent to $430 a week as new housing eases its accommodation shortage, according to Trade Me’s monthly index of advertised rents.

Trade Me’s head of property Nigel Jeffries said the fall would be a welcome relief to Christchurch renters, saving them $1560 a year…

… “That growth topped out in March this year at $495 per week, but has cooled down a lot over the past six months.” … read more via hyperlink above …

… Auckland is THE BIG problem … from Reserve Bank of New Zealand’s Deputy Governor late August speech …

RAW DATA – RBNZ deputy governor speech: Investors adding to Auckland Housing Market risk | The National Business Review

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/raw-data-rbnz-deputy-governor-speech-investors-adding-auckland-housing-market-risk-177663

Figure 6
House price-to-income ratios

Latest Statistics NZ provisional regional population growth figures indicate a yoy 2.9% lift for the Auckland region and 2.1% for Canterbury.

New housing production is running in Canterbury at about 13+ per 1000 population per annum … and about half that in faster population growth Auckland.

Little wonder Auckland’s out of control housing inflation (latest REINZ figures) is running at 25.4% … while Canterbury’s is 1.7%.
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October 24, 2015 9:08am
stephieboy

The so called Gowdy Benghazi investigation is turning into a predictable piece of farcical political theatre of the absurd whose sole aim is not the truth , but a blatant attempt by the Republicans to inflict maximum poll damage on Hilary Clinton .Excellent summation following including this interesting fact revealing the actual shambolic farce it actually is ,.

Benghazi Biopsy: A Comprehensive Guide to One of America’s Worst Political Outrages

“..In fact, no previous assault on a diplomatic outpost has received this kind of relentless expression of congressional outrage. There weren’t investigations that were anything on this scale about the attack on the U.S. Embassy in Beirut in 1983 (63 killed), on the U.S. Embassy annex northeast of Beirut in 1984 (24 killed) or on the U.S. Embassy in Sanaa, Yemen, in 2008 (18 killed). Republicans didn’t believe these exact same scenarios that took place under Republican presidents merited similar zeal to dig down to some unexposed, imaginary “truth.”….”

http://www.newsweek.com/benghazi-biopsy-comprehensive-guide-one-americas-worst-political-outrages-385853
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October 24, 2015 9:10am
Hugh Pavletich

THE HEALTHY AUSSIE KIWI RIVALRY … KEEPING THE POLITICIANS ON THEIR TOES !

Kiwis best forecasters of the Aussie economy – MacroBusiness Australia … subscribe … behind paywall …

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2015/10/kiwis-best-forecasters-of-the-aussie-economy/

… with the above incorporating an entertaining article reporting on Bill English’s visit to Australia this week … The Australian Financial Review …

The best forecasters of Australia’s economy are… New Zealanders | afr.com … google search title if blocked …

http://www.afr.com/news/economy/the-best-forecaster-of-australias-economy-are-new-zealanders-20151022-gkfxg9

… and how population growth in New Zealand looks on a regional basis …

Subnational Population Estimates: At 30 June 2015 (provisional)

http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/population/estimates_and_projections/SubnationalPopulationEstimates_HOTPAt30Jun15.aspx

… From the above, year on year provisional population growth for Auckland has been 2.9% … and Canterbury 2.1%

… And year on year house prices have inflated at whopping 25.4% in Auckland … just 1.7% in the Canterbury region … because sufficient new homes are being built in the latter …

https://www.reinz.co.nz/shadomx/apps/fms/fmsdownload.cfm?file_uuid=A3726A71-FED7-419A-9F5B-98607EF3DF1C&siteName=reinz

… House price to income ratio trend … from RNBZ Deputy Governor Grant Spencer’s recent speech …

So with the help of Mac Davis, and in being showered with all that ‘feel good’ stuff by the Aussie AFR people, Bill English has a new theme song.

I’m the guy just to the right (in case our hero gets too pragmatic … e.g. compulsory land purchases … note what I said to NBR’s Sally Lindsay and Owen Poland yesterday ) … with Labours Andrew Little and Phil Twyford somewhere there to the left … and further to the left, still hanging around the doorway, are the Auckland Council planners, who are in the process of joining the party (to ALLOW houses to be built) …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-07_2DWfEmQ
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October 24, 2015 9:11am
oldpark

Andrew Hore top Allblack rugby Hooker in 2011 Rugby World CUP,gets convicted of lending a shotgun to an unlicenced person. A pie face South African woman reporter import called Heather some thing or other, on a television programme comes by a shotgun,completely illegal in all respects, gets exultated and complimented and given more hypocrital back slapping comments, than even the woman politician called Ardern who failed to get braces for her buck teeth,when she was a bit younger.Wonder if either were not female,would they get the same out of control coverage by the sicko biased so called Main Stream Media.
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October 24, 2015 9:11am
Awww C-mon

@Viking no don’t need my arse wiped thanks, my point is show me a better alternative. You can’t. So instead of emotive bullshit like your comment shafting these pricks how about giving a constructive way to get them to act the way we want them too, it’s either improve or remove with governments and looking at plan b (little) we simply can’t remove them.

Nukuleka… I get that, I refuse to listen to Hauraki for those reasons. I guess what I am saying to Viking here is similar… Improve John but your not endangered yet…
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October 24, 2015 9:12am
Chuck Bird

@Awww C-mon

On the current polling John Key is not guaranteed to be PM. He is only sure of 59 seats according to the Curia polling in the sidebar.
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October 24, 2015 9:26am
kowtow

Hijab interview.

The interviewer will be sacked,the media won’t give a shit and the Human Rights Act 1993 should be scrapped.
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October 24, 2015 9:27am
AgentBallSack

I saw a comment the other day from a Paki in which he asserted match fixing was akin to child molesting, I wasnt sure how to comprehend that.
Was it in the European way in which it’s despicable and not to be done or was it in the Pakistani way in that everyone does it?
Your thoughts?
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October 24, 2015 9:31am
Inandout

Souvlaki: You will notice that the New Zealand Geographic Board is stacked with either Maori or quasi Maori members. Amongst the Pakeha members are a surveyor, a Quality Assurance Manager, a primary school teacher, a Professor of geography, a Local bodies officer, and a Hydrographic surveyor. The Maori contingent comprise a Treaty negotiator, a member of the Maori Law Society, a UNESCO consultant, and a Professor of Maori; all having Treaty interests. I would imagine all Geographic Board meetings would be driven by Maoria Law; ‘do as I say’ in other words.
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October 24, 2015 9:32am
Inandout

Tauhei Notts: By the same token, would a Muslim run jeweller accept a yarmulke wearing Jewish employee?
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October 24, 2015 9:38am
kowtow

Paki way. Situation normal.
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October 24, 2015 9:39am
wiseowl

Thanks Viking.
Made my day.
Reckon that Halse is a recent immigrant from the mother country.
I’m off to yell at the workers.
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October 24, 2015 9:40am
starboard

I’m with you Viking ( and Soulvaki ). This country is going down the shitter PC wise. Too many people out there who get off on telling others how to live their lives. Well fuck that. If I want to paint my roof without a harness , I shall, and fuck anyone who tries to tell me otherwise.
If I wish to drive down the road wearing no seat belt in my car , I will. I haven’t worn a seat belt for over 30 years and I am not going to start now because some clipboard carrying jumped up government arsehole who has no friends and cant get a real job, tells me to. Same with swearing at work..good luck with enforcing that one dickheads. For far to long we have slowly been stripped of our liberties here in NZ. Its about time we all stood up and said ENOUGH.
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October 24, 2015 9:42am
Viking2

@Viking no don’t need my arse wiped thanks, my point is show me a better alternative. You can’t. So instead of emotive bullshit like your comment shafting these pricks how about giving a constructive way to get them to act the way we want them too, it’s either improve or remove with governments and looking at plan b (little) we simply can’t remove them.
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So how would you do that then?

They have ignored referendums with plenty of support.
They have ignored just about anyone else with constructive suggestions.

They are arrogant to the point that they mirror Muldoon. NZ the way I want it.

Unless they get dumped out of their comfortable chairs they just won’t listen.

They suck up to the unelected (list MP’s),and the support parties because they are so feeble and lack any principles at all.

They (and we) are reaping what they sew.
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October 24, 2015 9:48am
stephieboy

Obviously 8 downticks for Benghazi lies and two up for the whole Truth and nothing bu tthe Truth,

Marathon Benghazi hearing leaves Hillary Clinton largely unscathed,

“Washington (CNN)Hillary Clinton avoided major damage to her presidential campaign during a nearly 11-hour congressional hearing Thursday dominated by Republican criticism of her response to the Benghazi attacks.
Bitter political undercurrents festered all day during a contentious showdown that turned into a political endurance test. After a day-long grilling on the details of the attack and how Clinton handled it, the former secretary of state was forced to defend her use of a private email account while in office from a flurry of late evening attacks by GOP lawmakers..”

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/22/politics/hillary-clinton-benghazi-hearing-updates/

Another interesting development is the attempt by Gowdy and other Republicans to attack the Libyan conflict and the UN sanctioned attacks forgetting that there was widespread bi partisan congressional support for the same .

But this is a cool impartial look at the facts surrounding Benghazi ?

Yeah right !
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October 24, 2015 9:52am
starboard

That happens because most Kiwis are thick and lazy Viking. They cant see through the bullshit screen politicians put up. So long as Joe Kiwis house goes up in value, they have a job and 20 bucks in their back pocket , Kiwis will continue taking it up the chocca. The politicians know this and take advantage of it. Again , we must ALL stand up and say ENOUGH. You assholes work for US , not the other way around.
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October 24, 2015 9:55am
kowtow

“But while some are calling a clean-up political correctness gone mad Halse said the days of cursing like a sailor are ‘last-century’ and people shouldn’t expect to be able to use offensive language around others.”

That workplace bully expert should be sued for denigrating mariners. “Denigrating” is that offensive to blacks?

Fuck it, this is getting very complicated.
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October 24, 2015 9:55am
stephieboy

starboard, tsk,tsk ,tsk… now what has upset your far rightoid whinging sensibilities today ? Maoris, Blacks Obama , of course Muslims ?

What else ?
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October 24, 2015 9:59am
Longknives

Whilst I agree with much of your sentiment Starboard I’m not sure seatbelts are merely ‘PC gone mad’..They are pretty damn good at saving your bacon when you crash your car!
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October 24, 2015 10:04am
starboard

You wouldn’t understand stephie , you are in the thick category , as above. Now, go and detonate something somewhere.
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October 24, 2015 10:04am
starboard

Sure Longknives agree..but my point is it should be choice. If I want to headbutt the windscreen , my choice. Yes , before anybody starts raving..I’ve paid taxes for over 40 years, never been on the dole , never been in a hospital , so I think I am entitled to a bit of hospital care should I headbutt said windscreen..through MY choice.
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October 24, 2015 10:07am
Colville

starboard.

You are allowed t paint your own roof without a harness, no one will stop you. Its just when you are doing it for money , someone will have a bit to say about it.

I have been in a crash where I T boned a car when I was doing around 110 km/hr. My camry got shortened by about a meter, the car I hit flew about 50 meter over a ditch into a paddock, air bags and the fancy seat belts with the explosive cartridges in it, amazing stuff. Not a scratch 🙂 So I wear a seat belt compulsively now.

It was my wedding anniversary, a couple of hours later when I was siting in restaurant and the shock kicked in my hands were shaking too much to hold a wine glass! 🙂
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October 24, 2015 10:18am
RightNow

The phrase “politically correct” is now a microaggression according to the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. The university’s “Just Words” campaign is the work of UWM’s “Inclusive Excellence Centre” and aims to “raise awareness of microaggressions and their impact” – microaggressions like “politically correct” or “PC.”
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October 24, 2015 10:26am
EAD

Meet Barbara Lerner Spectre – the person responsible for Swedens multicultural wonderland:

http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/witchcraft-update.html?m=1

https://youtu.be/MFE0qAiofMQ
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October 24, 2015 10:26am
G152

People who refuse to wear seatbelts in cars?
I have a solution….
30 minutes aerobatics in a DH82
and survivors can do whatever they want
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October 24, 2015 10:30am
Inandout

Poor, poor bastards, this taken from a FB contributor. Imagine this happening here if we were closer to the action:

‘Dear Friends,
Europe is now in total chaos and I think that you should know about it. I have waited a week or so to see how things will develop and to glean more information before presenting the facts. As you may know from the media, the flood of refugees cum economic immigrants into Europe has reached ridiculous proportions and to the extent that Hungary and other Balkan states have closed their borders and Turkey is considering doing the same. Angela Merkel in an ill advised speech to the Bundestag, welcomed all refugees to Germany and the floodgates opened and, in my view, this was all pre-planned beginning with the Pope’s appeal last year for Islam to move closer to Christianity. This was then followed up via the Italian Government instructing the Italian Navy to rescue all boat refugees and bring them to Italy. As a result, it seems that some 8000 people per day are now entering Europe via various routes. Most of these are young males between 17 and 25. The result is chaos as you can imagine. Here in Saarland we have been overwhelmed with refugees mainly young males but some families. In Lebach, some 10 kilometers from here, a camp for 200 was set up and a further 100 added this last week. The politicians, local government and religious leaders have fallen over themselves to bring them in and cater for them.
And so what is the result? In Ventimiglia near Monte Carlo, the refugees banded together (organized by smart phone) and over ran the market and stole or destroyed everything and ransacked the town Here in Lebach, a group entered a supermarket and took what they wanted and destroyed the rest. When the Manageress confronted them, they called up their friends and smashed the place to bits. The police arrived but were overwhelmed. The supermarket is now closed.
Yesterday, my friends rang from Weissenfels near Leipzig since two supermarkets and a Kaufland store in Halle suffered the same way. More news is coming in from all over Germany of the same situations.
The media report none of this. Many people have demonstrated against being over run by immigrants. In Weissenfels, families were thrown out of an eight flat apartment block and 70 refugees moved in. Small towns of some 2000 to 3000 people are over run by some 5000 to 6000 refugees.
Much civil unrest is apparent and is just boiling under the surface. Europe is in chaos and the do gooders have totally lost control of the situation. Islam has overwhelmed us. For the Syrian and Afghan refugees, I have every sympathy and they need help. They should get it. But for the rest, in my view, the state authorities must be firm and send them back. Perhaps it is too late. Anyway, I thought that you should know that the situation here is pretty grim and I fail to see how it can be resolved. I can only foresee a police state’.
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October 24, 2015 10:38am
Captain Mainwaring

Time for a larf. This is a prediction I wrote back in June. Nothing has happened since to change any of it.

June 2035. This is the news

Retiring Prime Minister Sir John Key (73) has expressed confidence that new leader Nikki Kaye will propel the National-led Government to an unprecedented tenth consecutive term in office following November’s General Election. Key, who handed the reins over to Kaye (55) last month after she had served as deputy since Simon Bridges retired in 2027, said “I’ve got the utmost confidence that the country will continue to be in good hands as Nikki carries the baton into the next generation.” Key has seen off 12 Labour leaders since 2008, the last being Chris Hipkins, who resigned last week following a TV1 poll that saw Labour plunge to a new low of 3.2%.

British Prime Minister Mohammed Al-Khazi congratulated Sir John Key on his retirement, saying: “The British Muslim Nationalist Party has enjoyed a warm relationship with New Zealand since coming to power in 2030 and we look forward to the establishment of live sheep shipments in the near future.”

Air New Zealand has announced the longest non-stop passenger service in the world with the commencement of a 22 hour flight between Auckland and London. The new service takes advantage of the remarkable fuel efficiency gains of the new Boeing 808-300ER. The 378 seat aircraft will follow a route which takes it over Hawaii, Northern Canada and Greenland, and the new plane’s introduction means that any two major airports in the world can now be connected non-stop.

An era is over with the dissolution of the New Zealand Labour Party. The party has been on a relentless slide since losing office in 2008, culminating in a 4.6% share of the vote in the 2032 election which saw it receive no seats. Retiring party president Jacinda Ardern said: “It’s sad to say goodbye to 119 years of history but the party has served its purpose as the old battles of the past have been fought and won. We clearly had nothing more to achieve.”

US President Chelsea Clinton-Mezvinsky has expressed disappointment at China’s invasion of Russia. “China is really getting too big for its boots”, she said. “They’d better be careful not to invade any of our friends or the USA might have to become involved.”

Opposition leader Sir Winston Peters (90) has announced that he has no plans to retire. “I’m as fit as I ever was and will be contesting the upcoming election as the leader of NZ First and MP for Northland”, he said. “With a new leader of the National party this will be our chance to go to the electorate with experience on our side.”

Auckland has now swallowed Orewa, Helensville and Pukekohe to become the third largest city in Australasia behind Sydney and Melbourne. The metropolitan population has reached 3.4 million and the average house price is $2.2 million. Mayor Valerie Adams is proud of the city’s achievements. “Auckland is a truly international city now, but we really need to do something about the transport system,” she said. It was recently reported in the Auckland Socialist Daily (formerly the New Zealand Herald) that the average Auckland commuter was spending six hours per day in transit.

Reports from Scotland confirm that the rebuilding of Hadrian’s Wall is making steady progress. Foundations are now completed over two thirds of the wall’s length. When finished, the wall will be 15 metres high, topped with razor wire and security cameras. Much of the wall is being built using demolition material from the bombed-out city of Glasgow, destroyed in the Civil War of 2024-28. Scottish President Nicola Sturgeon said: “When this wall is completed we’ll be able to keep Scotland for the Scots, and move forward to a future of confidence and prosperity, untainted by the decadence and self-interest of England.”

P2……

Celebrations to mark Cuba’s admission as the 51st state of the USA continue. Cuba became part of the USA in 2031, but the partying has carried on for four years. Political commentators put it down to the fact that as Cubans have no jobs to go to they might as well just keep drinking, dancing and enjoying the sunshine.

The three African leaders planning to attend the funeral of Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe, who died last week aged 111, face a daunting journey. They can get as far as Lusaka, but Zimbabwe hasn’t had an operating airport since 2027 and the highway network has been unusable for at least ten years through lack of maintenance. Currently the plan is for the Zambian Air Force to take them to Harare by helicopter using pre-arranged refuelling stations along the way, but Zambia is demanding money up front and expressing concerns about whether the fuel might be stolen before the helicopter gets there.

Crowd attendance at the fabled Indianapolis 500 motor race has fallen below 200,000 for the first time since World War 2. The race, which has traditionally been a sellout with upwards of 300,000 crowding the grandstands and infield hospitality areas, has seen attendance dropping year on year since the rules were changed in 2028 to permit only electric cars to take part. The 2035 running of the race was won by Poppy Dixon (daughter of former multiple Indycar Championship winner Scott Dixon), driving a 1000kW electric car sponsored by New Zealand company Genesis Energy, which has recently purchased a number of regional power suppliers in North America.

New Zealand’s political landscape has undergone a seismic shift over the past two decades. Since National has become increasingly entrenched in the centre/left, leaving Labour nowhere to go, a resurgent ACT has exploited the vacant area on the right and is now the country’s second largest party. Leader David Seymour has become something of a ‘poster boy’, and has recently overtaken an aging Sir Winston Peters in the polls as second choice for preferred Prime Minister.
ACT has evolved as a long-term coalition partner for National, with NZ First becoming the de-facto opposition. The most recent TV1 poll (taken in May) had National on 58.3%, ACT 16.6%, NZ First 14.5%, Labour 3.2%, Greens 2.9% and others 4.5%.

Completion of the long-overdue four-lane bridge over the Manawatu River at Foxton means that drivers on State Highway One can now enjoy a divided highway all the way from Wellington to Waiouru. The only gap yet to be completed in the four-lane highway between Wellington and Whangarei is the difficult Taupo-Waiouru section which is well under way and on schedule to be finished in 2039. The new highway has been hailed by the trucking industry as a huge boost to the economy, whilst Kiwirail’s revenues have been sliding on decreasing freight volumes, despite the recent electrification of the entire main trunk line.

Climate change scientists are baffled by the recent reversal in Global temperatures. According to the United Nations Environment Programme, average global temperatures have decreased by 1.9 degrees C over the last five years. “We’re surprised by this,” said Hannibal Ovlov-Petrozkvy, Executive Director of UNEP. “With all the terrible things human civilization has been doing to the atmosphere over the past couple of hundred years, Global Warming should be continuing. Perhaps this can be put down to natural long term cycles after all. I hope we’re not headed for another Ice Age,” he concluded.
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October 24, 2015 10:48am
Odakyu-sen

Inandout,

Imagine that you have a mob running amok and smashing up and looting businesses. What do you think happens next?

The people who own the businesses are not your typical workers. They have invested a lot of money in their enterprises and will seek to protect them. They will be members of local business groups, who in turn will be part of national associations. These associations will have close connections with political parties and government departments, as the later depend on tax revenue from the businesses to fund their policies.

Authorities will be under silent but forceful pressure to take steps to bring this situation to heel.
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October 24, 2015 10:53am
mandk

@ RightNow
As far as I am concerned, anyone who goes round accusing people of microagression is being passive-agresssive and probably deserves to be punched on the nose 🙂
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October 24, 2015 10:53am
Paulus Gnome

O Maggy, Maggy, wherefore art thou Maggy? Deny thy sledgers and refuse thy name; or if thou wilt not, be but sworn our love and we will no longer be a KBer’s. Shall we hear more, or shall we speak at this? ‘Tis but his name that is our enemy: thou art thyself, though not here at the moment.

You get the drift
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October 24, 2015 10:54am
Fletch

Those Syrian “refugees” that were forced to go through Slovenia after Hungary closed off its borders have torched their own tents and taken selfies because of being forced to wait ONE DAY for transit papers.

ANGRY migrants looking to reach Britain have SET FIRE to their own tents in protest at being made to wait just ONE DAY for transit papers, it emerged today.

Shocking drone footage also emerged showing the full extent of the damage at the camp – which houses thousands of men, women and children – with a huge area reduced to a blackened pile of ash.

Witnesses said that a group of young men became riotous after learning that it would take at least 24 hours to register them and move them on to the nearby border with Austria.

It was reported that they were also angry about a lack of food, water and blankets at the camp.

But there were reports that the fires decimated supplies at the camp to the extent that their fellow migrants had to burn clothes donated by charities in an effort to keep warm.

Ari Omar, a migrant from Iraq, bemoaned his treatment at the hands of Europeans, saying: “I am sorry for Europe. We did not think Europe is like this: no respect for refugees, not treating us with dignity. Why is Europe like this?”

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/613809/European-migrant-crisis-refugees-set-fire-tents-Slovenia-selfies-travel-UK-Germany

What an arrogant, self-important lot these people are, that if things are not going their way that they should respond with violence to the people who are helping them. Where is their sense of gratitude? They aren’t “refugees” in any sense of the term. Meanwhile, Christians are being slaughtered worldwide at 11 killed per minute.
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October 24, 2015 10:57am
kowtow

Close ups usually show, children and families.

But the column , reminiscent of an army on the march, is made of of young men of fighting age.

The death of Europe.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3286365/Slovenia-latest-country-resort-building-fences-borders-47-500-migrants-enter-overwhelmed-nation-days.html
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October 24, 2015 10:57am
kowtow

paulus g

keep that up and you’ll be banished from fair Verona.
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October 24, 2015 11:00am
nasska

Fear not intrepid Paulus…..Maggy sent word that she is running free through the Rhododendrons on Mt Egmont.

She’ll sort you out next week. 🙂
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October 24, 2015 11:00am
Fletch

Don’t know why I hadn’t seen this before (but I am not a huge Python fan).

Monthy Python parodies “inclusive” language and men who wish they were women in The Life of Brian.
Probably politically incorrect these days, but it hits the nail on the head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c
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October 24, 2015 11:09am
stigie

Well done to the Kiwis playing Leeds this morning 34/16. A bit of a scrappy first half because the boys hadn’t played together and some were weeks from playing their last NRL game. A better second half puts them in a good position to meet the English next week.

Im surprised it hasn’t been mentioned today on Kiwiblog, but as Big Bruv would say, its not all about the AB’s !~
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October 24, 2015 11:10am
Fletch

Opps, @ my 10:57 post, that should read, one Christian being killed every 11 minutes.

http://www.christiantoday.com.au/article/one.christian.is.killed.every.11.minutes.uk.parliament.told/16583.htm
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October 24, 2015 11:15am
blazeoflight

@Viking 8:13am

Well spotted. English excelled himself this time in terms of spouting crap.

At the time when mortgage rates were 8-9%, the economy was booming, and wages were increasing at 3-4%p.a.

The WFF extension and interest free student loans were election bribes, pure and simple, as National rightly pointed out at the time, and English is distorting history to justify policies based on ideology, not economics.

And a proper analysis would note that Labour was acting against the RBNZ with aggregate demand stimulus when the OCR was steadily increasing to keep the lid on inflation.

But get this for an oxymoronic statement: The government would rather “get the market right”.

That should make David Seymour choke on his cornflakes!
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October 24, 2015 11:16am
Chuck Bird

It appears that they is a similar system in Oz that judges cannot be removed unless they actually get found guilty of a crime.

Outrage as Australian judge says incest, pedophilia ‘may be accepted’ by society

https://www.rt.com/news/171868-australia-judge-incest-homosexuality/
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October 24, 2015 11:16am
EAD

For the intellectually curious among interested in the way the world works and those who wonder why for example, they just keep on letting the ~~invaders~~ refugees in, read and learn:

https://katana17.wordpress.com/2014/08/27/the-grand-design-of-the-20th-century/

“The ways in which people try to explain what is happening in the world around them, whether in politics or economics, can be divided roughly into two classes. Or, as some would put it, there are two theories of contemporary history.

The one held by the majority of people hardly deserves to be called a theory, but if that word must be used, then let us call it “The Idiot Theory” why “The Idiot Theory”? Because it insists that no one is to blame for the way history unfolds; things just happen. Likewise, the actions and policies of politicians, when they produce results we don’t like, are simply the product of mistaken ideas, misunderstandings, lack of sufficient information. Or, as some Americans would say: “History unfolds as the cookie crumbles” — the precise way in which the proverbial cookie crumbles being beyond all human control.”
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October 24, 2015 11:18am
starboard

LOL only in South Auckland. Are these lot born without brains ?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/73347667/video-man-films-himself-appearing-to-rob-salesman-in-auckland-house
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October 24, 2015 11:18am
Kimbo

@ Fletch

Don’t know why I hadn’t seen this before (but I am not a huge Python fan).

Monthy Python parodies “inclusive” language and men who wish they were women in The Life of Brian.
Probably politically incorrect these days, but it hits the nail on the head.

I don’t know why sanctimonious, pious fools like Malcolm Muggeridge screamed “blasphemy” back when The Life of Brian was released back in 1979. There is nothing in it that’s blasphemous to Christianity – the Pythons go out of their way to make it very clear Brian is not Jesus.

Instead one of their primary targets is Oxbridge socialists initiating the revolution via committee motions. Reg, Judith and Loretta are three of the most brilliant “minor characters” created since Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.

A vicar I knew, who is now a bishop, told me in between the laughter that he once said, “Blessed are the cheese makers…” when reading the Sermon on the Mount in church.
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October 24, 2015 11:26am
Gabby

I think you’re entering the realms of fantasy there Capman.
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October 24, 2015 11:30am
blazeoflight

@kowtow

The young men are often sent first to find a country to settle, make some money, and arrange passage for their families via usual immigration channels.

Blaming the victims of cruel and incompetent western foreign policies is grotesque, IMO.
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October 24, 2015 11:30am
kowtow

Python claimed Life was meant to mock “organised religion” but they have also said they’d never do a similar one on Islam.

Christianity being a soft target, in my book , and yes I enjoy MP , that makes them cowards and perhaps every bit as bad as the Oxbridge set they also set out to mock.
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October 24, 2015 11:32am
Reid

Why don’t we have laws that also do this, not for the GFC because they didn’t do the CDOs here AFAIK but yes, if they had. But for bullshitting about the interest-rate swap instruments, which have caused farm suicides and loss of the farm, in quite a few cases? Also for things like what Messrs Fay, Richwhite, Hotchins and Watson did? Not good enough, NZ. Change it, so its like Iceland.

Iceland does what the US won’t: 26 top bankers sent to prison for role in financial crisis

Reykjavík, Iceland – In stark contrast to the record low number of prosecutions of CEO’s and high-level financial executives in the U.S., Iceland has just sentenced 26 bankers to a combined 74 years in prison.

The majority of those convicted have been sentenced to prison terms of two to five years. The maximum penalty in Iceland for financial crimes is six years, although hearings are currently underway to consider extending the maximum beyond six years.

The prosecutions are the result of Iceland’s banksters manipulating the Icelandic financial markets after Iceland deregulated their finance sector in 2001. Eventually, an accumulation of foreign debt resulted in a meltdown of the entire banking sector in 2008.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/iceland-does-what-the-us-wont-26-top-bankers-sent-to-prison-for-role-in-financial-crisis/
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October 24, 2015 11:33am
Keeping Stock

@ ABS – I read somewhere that the match-fixing/paedophile comparison referred to the way those at the top of the match-fixing pile groomed those who were recruiter to do the on-field stuff. In that context, and from evidence given at the Cairns trial, the analogy makes some sense.
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October 24, 2015 11:39am
starboard

There is hope for you scottchris ! Praise be !

https://www.rt.com/politics/pete-politician-prayer-homosexuality-931/
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October 24, 2015 11:42am
Kimbo

Python claimed Life was meant to mock “organised religion” but they have also said they’d never do a similar one on Islam.

Christianity being a soft target, in my book , and yes I enjoy MP , that makes them cowards and perhaps every bit as bad as the Oxbridge set they also set out to mock.

OK, but what “organised religion(s)” is the primary target to make that generic point? Judaism and the quasi-religious herd mentality of radical left-wing politics are the two main ones, not Christianity.

I know there is the crucifixion scene at the end, but then we’ve been immunised via centuries of art that portrays Jesus of Nazareth as Sven of Stockholm blissfully hanging on a gibbet – at which I think the Pythons, with typical absurdism, take a long-overdue shot.

Renaissance art isn’t New Testament theology, nor the world of 1st Century Judea suffering under Pax Romana. Jesus was not the one and only person ever crucified, and for both Jews and Gentiles it was an utterly shameful way to die. When the Jewish Uprising was put down in 70AD, the Romans stopped crucifying rebels because there weren’t any more trees on which to nail them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoaktW-Lu38
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October 24, 2015 11:44am
Reid

IMF predicts Saudi Arabia and the Western satraps will be bankrupt in five years. Oh no. What’s Mossad and the UKUSA going to do then? Therefore, watch the “free market” lift the oil prices to “sustainable” levels very soon indeed.

Earlier this week, the IMF released its World Economic and Financial Regional Surveys, and it found that the Middle Eastern region is set to experience an all out financial collapse over the next five years due to falling oil prices. The epicenter of that crisis will be in Saudi Arabia.

One of the reasons for the kingdom’s bankruptcy is because its cash reserves are in free-fall. The government refuses to balance the budget since the thousands of Saudi royal family members purchase national support through welfare spending. But this is only affordable when the price of oil hits $103 to balance the books…

http://economiccollapsenews.com/2015/10/22/imf-warns-saudi-arabia-to-become-bankrupt-by-2020/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+EconomicCollapseNews+%28Economic+Collapse+News%29

Kimbo, are you saying Judiasm is subject to the same meme of destruction that Christianity is? Hopefully you’re not, are you?
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October 24, 2015 11:44am
Kimbo

@ Reid

Kimbo, are you saying Judiasm is subject to the same meme of destruction that Christianity is? Hopefully you’re not, are you?

I’m saying that as a Protestant, who hopefully seeks to affirm and live the Reformation principles of Sola Scriptura (“Scripture alone”) and Ecclesia reformata semper reformanda est (“The church that is reformed is continually reforming”), I observe that sometimes the greatest enemy of obedience to the Scriptures and reforming in accordance with its requirements has been the organised religion of the church…both Catholic and Protestant.

If the Pythons wanted to have a shot at that – all power to ’em…especially as, IMHO, they were doing God’s work.
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October 24, 2015 11:56am
Reid

Personally I think Bob Jones is a prime a-hole but unlike many, this fact doesn’t therefore mean I think he, as a prime a-hole, has nothing worthwhile to say, to the contrary in fact. Here he is on leadership:

https://atlasmonitor.wordpress.com/2015/10/14/bob-jones-on-leadership/

Ah, I agree with you then Kimbo, thanks for the clarification. I have often said the biggest problem with religion is man’s interpretation of it, since in my experience, often the latter is not the same as the former.
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October 24, 2015 12:05pm
Reid

Last night I came across something that for me, solved a missing piece of the 911 puzzle, that of the micro-nukes that UT has often discussed here. I’d never understood how they were used therefore up till last night I’d always plumped for the thermite explanation as the most likely cause of the twin tower collapses. My problem was that I’d always had in my mind the traditional view of nukes which is they are huge, they always involve a mushroom cloud, etc etc. But apparently, this was wrong.

The report below is taken from an intelligence dump by Russian sources. As the origin is from an intelligence agency in the form of a “leak,” there are always questions. Thus far, we have found not only is the majority of the material confirmed but several solutions to serious problems involving 9/11 are included…

…According to a retired FXX agent specializing in Israeli counter intel: The type of nuclear devices used on 911 were a modified version of the W-54 nuclear artillery shells that were covertly provided to the Israelis between 1988 and 1998 from US surplus stockpiles illegally exported during the Bush/Clinton era.

Chemical analysis done by DOE Sandi was able to identify the chemical/radiation footprint or fingerprint of the warheads based on samples taken after 911 of the fallout at ground zero. (Editor’s note: Nuclear weapon use at ground zero is confirmed from multiple sources)

All plutonium based warheads have a chemical fingerprint that can identify the type of design and where the PU was made and how old it is. This was the 911 blackmail on Bush 1 and 2, the illegal transfer of surplus US nuclear weapons to the Israelis and why the continued cover up, along with the stolen gold and stock fraud that was going on Wall Street etc. According to file ENW57.pdf on page 66. (Editor’s note: Document received and confirmed)

Only a 2 kiloton device was needed to drop the buildings. A 2 kiloton device will produce a fireball of apx 150 to 200 feet in diameter at over 4000 degrees Centigrade. Just large enough to melt the I beams of the central core of the building and drop them in place. The light flash would last less than 1 second and primarily be in the UV light range. Overpressure would only be at 60PSI max and directed upwards with the blast. See underground effect.

Fallout would be minimal and located to within ground zero range only. Radiation would drop to acceptable levels within 72 hrs. after the blast. Most fall out was trapped in the cement dust thus causing all of the recent cancer deaths that we are now seeing in NYC amongst first responders. (Editor’s note: Consistent with site data)

Melted steel and iron oxide or “nano thermite” is a byproduct of the very high gamma ray / Neutron flux induced into the central steel core. The radiation dissolves the steel into iron oxide consuming the carbon and silicone in the steel.

This explains the missing steel columns and the very important clue of the “vaporized’ 20 ton antenna tower atop the south tower. The upward blast of radiation literally vaporized it. Video evidence proves this to be true. (Editor’s note: Tower issue a vital one.)

The total XXOO data file from DOE Sandia on the 911 event is well over 72 MB. P.S. Snowden didn’t have a Q clearance so he missed this one. Carnaberry had a pretty good stash of documents on the subject. (All under the transit stuff.) (Editor’s note: Fully confirmed)…

…It appears that the weapon of choice for the Israelis were the W-54 and follow on series of nuclear pits taken from the Amarillo TX storage dump. This was what Carnaberry was working on for Bush senior in Houston.

A total of over 350 pits were transferred to the Israelis over a 10 to 20 year period of time. The W-54 type of pit design were the most desirable due to the 2 point implosion pit design. This is the easiest to re manufacture and modify as compared to other circular pit designs.

The pill shaped design of the W-54 type weapon contains over 1.5 times more plutonium than a standard pit. This would allow enough Plutonium to be recovered that was still of weapons grade use even after 32 plus years of age. Americium build up in the pit over time eventually makes the Pit unusable as a weapon so they have a limited shelf life based on how fast or slow the Plutonium was produce in the reactor at Stanford…

…These devices were used in the Bali bombing and the London bombing and in Japan on their reactors. (Editor’s note: Nuclear weapon use in Bali confirmed)…

…These are stored in most Israelite embassies for ease of deployment. The one’s used on 911 were kept at the Israeli consulate in NYC until put in place. After 911 the FBI now checks all diplomatic pouches with a Geiger counter before entering or leaving the US…

…On the W-54 pit design it is pill shaped and it is only about 4 inches in diameter and weighs about 24 pounds.

Most of the fuel is consumed in the plasma fire ball when detonated so there is very little plutonium fallout left to escape. If it is salted with other materials the fallout can be even reduced to lower levels such as in an enhanced radiation device or the so called neutron bomb. This is what was used on 911.

The primary purpose of the nuclear weapon used on 911 was to produce a massive Gama ray / neutron flux that would vaporize about 150 to 300 feet of 6 inch thick steal I beams that constituted the central core of the WTC buildings. This created a free fall event as seen on TV that day. (Editor’s note: Critical information here.)

The flash would be hidden from sight due to the underground detonation. Most of the light was in the non-visible light spectrum any way. Over pressure would be reduced to 6 psi due to the blast traveling up the central core and neutron radiation vaporizing the TV antenna at the top of the building as see on TV.

The fallout would be mainly vaporized concrete cement and iron oxide. This is why after 911 they told everyone on TV that the beta radiation burns that people were getting were due to the caustic cement dust and not due to the radiation effects from the radioactive cement fallout. (Editor’s note: Fully confirmed)

The iron oxide found all over the place was what was left of the steel I beams. This was the so called Nano Thermite that was found everywhere. Fallout was limited to a 1 mile area around down town NYC. See charts. (Editor’s note: Received)

Radiation decay was reduced to safe low levels after 72 hrs., (Editor’s note: Fully confirmed) outside of ground zero its self. This is why the area was blocked off from the public for 3 days after the event, in order to let the radiation drop to safe levels.

The evidence is in the dust. Here’s a detailed analysis of that aimed at physicists.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/59702510/Jeff-Prager-911-Dust-2011

And here’s some general detail on nuclear weapon design:
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Nwfaq/Nfaq4.html

And same but at layman’s level, with the politics and history thrown in:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/18/you-will-die-from-the-nuclear-lie/
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October 24, 2015 12:28pm
Reid

And here’s something for the many here who haven’t yet made the elementary conclusion that Western medical research is just as tainted as the AGW research. And why wouldn’t it be. Big money is involved in both. Favourable research can be bought. Scientists can be unknowingly fooled. We’ve seen that in AGW. Why wouldn’t it be present in Big Pharma too?

Fraudulent scientific research is rife throughout the world due to the power of monetary influence wielded by Big Pharma, the giant cartel of multinational pharmaceutical corporations started over 100 years ago by the Rockefellers.

This fraudulent scientific research is now so widespread and pervasive it is become an open secret. There is a long list of medical journal editors, doctors and professors on the “outside”, former Big Pharma employees and executives on the “inside”, as well as government officials somewhere in between, who have stepped forward as whistleblowers and acknowledged the fraud.

Money buys favorable research. Period. This is not really surprising, given the history of Rockefeller Western medicine and the fact that Big Pharma’s business model is based on “managing” disease, “treating” symptoms and keeping patients on the hamster wheel, rather than actually healing them completely…

https://atlasmonitor.wordpress.com/2015/10/07/most-scientific-research-of-western-medicine-untrustable-fraudulent-says-insiders-experts/

and

Ex Pharmaceutical Sales Representative Comes Clean, Reveals Horrors Of Western Medicine

http://www.wakeupkiwi.com/news-articles-15.shtml#ExPharma
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October 24, 2015 12:38pm
Reid

Meanwhile on AGW research, a flaw in the models is why the predictions are so wrong, because its overestimated the CO2 effect by up to ten times! Which means we can still drive cars and we don’t have to murder our cows and thus bankrupt the nation, like the Gweens and Gwiff are so desperate to have us do.

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

What a pack of dummies AGW alarmists are. I mean they’re mental. Fanatics desperately trying to make facts fit their pre-conceived narrative, which is proven wrong the instant anyone walks outside and looks up at the big ball of fire in the sky. I mean how can you be so profoundly stupid as to ignore that? And yet, they do.

A MATHEMATICAL discovery by Perth-based electrical engineer Dr David Evans may change everything about the climate debate, on the eve of the UN climate change conference in Paris next month.

A former climate modeller for the Government’s Australian Greenhouse Office, with six degrees in applied mathematics, Dr Evans has unpacked the architecture of the basic climate model which underpins all climate science.

He has found that, while the underlying physics of the model is correct, it had been applied incorrectly.

He has fixed two errors and the new corrected model finds the climate’s sensitivity to carbon dioxide (CO2) is much lower than was thought.

It turns out the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has over-estimated future global warming by as much as 10 times, he says.

“Yes, CO2 has an effect, but it’s about a fifth or tenth of what the IPCC says it is. CO2 is not driving the climate; it caused less than 20 per cent of the global warming in the last few decades”.

Dr Evans says his discovery “ought to change the world”.

“But the political obstacles are massive,” he said.

His discovery explains why none of the climate models used by the IPCC reflect the evidence of recorded temperatures. The models have failed to predict the pause in global warming which has been going on for 18 years and counting.

“The model architecture was wrong,” he says. “Carbon dioxide causes only minor warming. The climate is largely driven by factors outside our control.”

There is another problem with the original climate model, which has been around since 1896.

While climate scientists have been predicting since the 1990s that changes in temperature would follow changes in carbon dioxide, the records over the past half million years show that not to be the case.

So, the new improved climate model shows CO2 is not the culprit in recent global warming. But what is?

Dr Evans has a theory: solar activity. What he calls “albedo modulation”, the waxing and waning of reflected radiation from the Sun, is the likely cause of global warming.

He predicts global temperatures, which have plateaued, will begin to cool significantly, beginning between 2017 and 2021. The cooling will be about 0.3C in the 2020s. Some scientists have even forecast a mini ice age in the 2030s.

If Dr Evans is correct, then he has proven the theory on carbon dioxide wrong and blown a hole in climate alarmism. He will have explained why the doomsday predictions of climate scientists aren’t reflected in the actual temperatures…

https://atlasmonitor.wordpress.com/2015/10/12/perth-electrical-engineers-discovery-will-change-climate-change-debate/
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October 24, 2015 12:44pm
Manolo

Mamma Merkel wants every European Union member to take its share of potential terrorists and no-hopers:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/23/refugee-crisis-germany-push-compulsory-eu-quotas

Germany is to push for more ambitious and extensive common European Union policies on the refugee crisis, according to policymakers in Berlin, with compulsory and permanent quotas for sharing the distribution of probably hundreds of thousands of people who will arrive directly from the Middle East.

The plans, being prepared in Berlin and Brussels, are certain to trigger bitter resistance and major clashes within the EU. Berlin backs European commission plans to make the proposed scheme “permanent and binding”. But up to 15 of 28 EU countries are opposed.
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October 24, 2015 12:47pm
Jack5

Supporters of Hager the Horrible, who made his name with emails stolen from others, are rabbiting on about data potentially for user against Hager being handed over without court authorisation. Such hypocrisy!

Labour’s police spokeswoman, Jacinta (all teeth and no bite) Ardern, has joined the clamour. How would you like this Leftist running our police force? Never mind, Labour seems to be on its way to the dustbin of history, to borrow Trotsky’s phrase.

Also weighing in is the editor of the Christchurch Press. No surprise given how far left she’s steered this once conservative newspaper.

David Fisher, the reporter behind the article in the Hooerald seems to be fairly Left in his views.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/it-security/news/article.cfm?c_id=239&objectid=11534242
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October 24, 2015 1:06pm
Reid

Why the MSM is dying. They’ve turned into paid liars, which is what Frank Haden used to call PR specialists. But PR and Journalism has also been a revolving door like the Pentagon/DoD/military are with the Defence Contractors in the US. Both started happening in the 80’s and has continued with increasing pace to this day to the point now where all those industries have completely lost their way, and the fallout is evident. And none of it needed to happen.

The Mainstream Media Is Dying and Here’s Why –
https://atlasmonitor.wordpress.com/2015/09/30/the-mainstream-media-is-dying-and-heres-why/

The Collapse of American Media – New poll shows trust in media at all-time low –
https://atlasmonitor.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/the-collapse-of-american-media-new-poll-shows-trust-in-media-at-all-time-low/

David Fisher, the reporter behind the article in the Hooerald seems to be fairly Left in his views.

seems to be?
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October 24, 2015 1:19pm
Brigitte

@Reid,

I have found the problem in your AGW rant:

“If Dr Evans is correct,”

You see, the problem is that he isn’t correct. And stop listing a crackpot denier – remember over 97% of climate scientists agree with warming. So if you find & list 3 climate scientists that don’t agree, then Griff (or anyone else for that matter) can reasonably fill up the 100 by listing 97 that do agree. Would cause more wrist problems than scrolling down a Penny epistle.
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October 24, 2015 1:24pm
Reid

You see, the problem is that he isn’t correct.

How do you know that? Are you Ph.D with six degrees in advanced math, and won the awards he has? Well, do you?

And if he isn’t correct, which is a mathematical question not an emotional one, how come his conclusions MATCH reality when your alarmist conclusions DON’T?

The way to prove fanatical alarmists is simply to walk outside. No wonder you get all upset when your fantasy is so easily exposed.
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October 24, 2015 1:33pm
Jack5

A push in Britain has police investigating claims British veterans mistreated Afghans.

I used to respect pacifists and anti-war folk, but I’m beginning to despise them. We get people to put their lives on their line for their country then these rats persecute those who survive.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3287178/Afghan-veterans-face-criminal-probe-mistreating-Taliban-suspects.html
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October 24, 2015 1:47pm
Fletch

remember over 97% of climate scientists agree with warming.

Except that they don’t. That is a figure produced by a questionable study by one John Cook, in which he posed two questions which are meaningless. The question asked was so generalized as to provoke answers that could be slanted the way the askers wanted. And they did, classifying papers by warming skeptics as being in favor of the AGW theory, which they aren’t.

Global warming alarmists and their allies in the liberal media have been caught doctoring the results of a widely cited paper asserting there is a 97-percent scientific consensus regarding human-caused global warming. After taking a closer look at the paper, investigative journalists report the authors’ claims of a 97-pecent consensus relied on the authors misclassifying the papers of some of the world’s most prominent global warming skeptics. At the same time, the authors deliberately presented a meaningless survey question so they could twist the responses to fit their own preconceived global warming alarmism.

Global warming alarmist John Cook, founder of the misleadingly named blog site Skeptical Science, published a paper with several other global warming alarmists claiming they reviewed nearly 12,000 abstracts of studies published in the peer-reviewed climate literature. Cook reported that he and his colleagues found that 97 percent of the papers that expressed a position on human-caused global warming “endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming.”

As is the case with other ‘surveys’ alleging an overwhelming scientific consensus on global warming, the question surveyed had absolutely nothing to do with the issues of contention between global warming alarmists and global warming skeptics. The question Cook and his alarmist colleagues surveyed was simply whether humans have caused some global warming. The question is meaningless regarding the global warming debate because most skeptics as well as most alarmists believe humans have caused some global warming. The issue of contention dividing alarmists and skeptics is whether humans are causing global warming of such negative severity as to constitute a crisis demanding concerted action.

Either through idiocy, ignorance, or both, global warming alarmists and the liberal media have been reporting that the Cook study shows a 97 percent consensus that humans are causing a global warming crisis. However, that was clearly not the question surveyed.

Investigative journalists at Popular Technology looked into precisely which papers were classified within Cook’s asserted 97 percent. The investigative journalists found Cook and his colleagues strikingly classified papers by such prominent, vigorous skeptics as Willie Soon, Craig Idso, Nicola Scafetta, Nir Shaviv, Nils-Axel Morner and Alan Carlin as supporting the 97-percent consensus.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/05/30/global-warming-alarmists-caught-doctoring-97-percent-consensus-claims/
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October 24, 2015 1:56pm
Fletch

1 Summary

Recent reports that 97% of published scientific papers support the so-called consensus on man-made global warming are based on a paper by John Cook et al. 1

Precisely what consensus is allegedly being supported in these papers cannot be discerned from the text of the paper. An analysis of the methodology used by Cook et al. shows that the consensus referred to is trivial:

that carbon dioxide (CO2) is a greenhouse gas

that human activities have warmed the planet to some unspecified extent.

Almost everybody involved in the climate debate, including the majority of sceptics, accepts these propositions, so little can be learned from the Cook et al. paper. Numerous critiques of the paper have been published, some by supporters of mainstream views on climate science. These have demonstrated substantial biases in the methodology. Cook has certainly misrepresented what his research shows. More importantly, one researcher has made an allegation of scientific fraud, at this point unrebutted by Cook and his colleagues.

Read the whole report: http://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2014/09/Warming-consensus-and-it-critics1.pdf
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October 24, 2015 1:57pm
Reid

More on the IDF ~~General~~ Colonel captured in Iraq.

The only ones surprised about this, of course, are the sheeple.

Aren’t sheeple stoooooooooooooooooopid.

Updated: Israeli General Captured in Iraq Confesses to Israel-Isis Coalition

“There is a strong cooperation between MOSSAD and ISIS top military commanders…Israeli advisors helping the Organization on laying out strategic and military plans, and guiding them in the battlefield”

[ Editor’s note: Israel’s claim that Shahak is only a Colonel requires us to at least publish this claim of theirs. It may well be important to Tel Aviv that a colonel was caught rather than a general. This reminds me of the battle of Stalingrad and Hitler who promoted General Paulus to Field Marshal in the belief that Field Marshals didn’t surrender. To Netanyahu, it is obviously a belief that generals don’t get caught.

General Shahak was captured by Shiite militia and is still being held in Iraq. His captors are keeping DESI informed, a European security organization with close ties to VT. The article below is based on questions we submitted to his captors this morning. We also inquired as to the conditions under which he is being held… GD ]

…by Nahed Al Husaini, VT Bureau Chief Damascus…

Edit: I’m glad you have the patience to tackle the fanatical alarmist’s nonsense Fletch. Personally, I gave up long ago. I only gave that one above because it’s an inarguable fact provable by maths and reality and it will shoot down the whole idiotic alarmist shebang in a heartbeat.
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October 24, 2015 2:06pm
Fletch

The Onion goes there…..

WASHINGTON—Following the announcement by Texas state officials to cut Medicaid funding for the nonprofit organization, Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards assured supporters Tuesday that it has plenty of fetus cash to keep going for a while.

“While the decision by Texas to eliminate taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood is unfortunate, I want everyone to know that we have an ample supply of sweet baby-organ cabbage to continue providing our services,” said Richards, adding that the reproductive and maternal health organization had enough fetal-tissue scratch to keep the doors open for the foreseeable future.

“Lawmakers remain determined to deny reproductive health care to women in need, and if not for our golden baby-parts goose, they well may have succeeded. But rest assured that with our mad stacks of aborted-fetus bucks, the future of Planned Parenthood is as secure as ever.” Richards added that even as she was speaking, Planned Parenthood employees were busy squeezing some extra green out of whatever embryos they had left in the back.

Of course, it has enraged libs. Satire hurts the worst when it is based on truth.
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October 24, 2015 2:18pm
Brigitte

Let me clarify.

Dr Evans math is correct as far as I can tell. But there are some issues with his theory.

Basically he states that the additional heat trapped by CO2 will leave into outer space via other mechanisms. This would need to be tested of course (I can’t locate any tests that he has performed or suggested along these lines). Even if this was correct there are two important provisos. Firstly, he is dealing with an equilibrium over time. If the warming lasts too long before total or partial recovery (as he proposes) then irreversible changes might have occurred (e.g., polar ice melting & sea level rises of several metres, or permafrost melting). Secondly, he has yet to explain the mechanism by which he expects the excess heat to transfer from 1 of his four ‘exit pipes’ into the three remaining ‘exit pipes’.

So, in conclusion, he has an untested theory, based on solid mathematics, which should be treated with caution until such time as it can be tested. Assuming that it is ‘the answer’ is not proper science (this was why I said he is ‘wrong’), however proposing a new method is a valid starting point. Once he has the peer review finished (he indicates that it is underway) then it can be properly scrutinised and discussed. If his theory is correct then the worst of the likely scenarios currently predicted might be able to be avoided (might, if we make the necessary changes). I doubt that it will be a solution that would allow us to continue on our current path particularly since the effects he talks about have yet to show up.
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October 24, 2015 2:20pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Brigitte 2:20pm

This would need to be tested of course (I can’t locate any tests that he has performed or suggested along these lines).

This is the whole point….. After 30+ years of climate models, we are all awaiting experimental repeatable evidence for the extent of CO2’s contribution to global warming. Billions of dollars have been spent with computer predictions and data homogenising, but those key little experiments that will determine exactly where the “trapped heat” is going are not on the drawing board.
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October 24, 2015 2:35pm
Longknives

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/73352273/sonny-bill-williams-offers-world-cup-semifinal-tickets-to-syrian-refugees

Do they watch much Rugby in Syria??
Nonetheless- This must make you All Black fans burst with pride…
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October 24, 2015 2:36pm
waikatogirl

Here’s something to ruin your Christmas dinner:
The World Health Organisation has announced that your Christmas ham is as casiengagenic as smoking! Or your ham will kill you!

We all know that too much processed meat is not good for you but it seems a very pointed warning associated to the luscious Christmas ham we eat for a short time each year.

To the WTO, it won’t stop my family preparing and enjoying a ham this Christmas! Tradition overules 🙂
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October 24, 2015 2:54pm
holysheet

Longknives, it just goes to show how much of a dick sunnybill really is. It’s all about him, imagine the free publicity when he becomes a muzzie religo nut.
Shades of cassius clay becoming muhammid alley
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October 24, 2015 2:55pm
Reid

Very good backgrounder to the Syrian conflict:

http://www.unz.com/ishamir/secrets-of-syrian-war-october-2015/
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October 24, 2015 3:11pm
waikatogirl

Holysheet, I believe SBW became a muslim when he turned to boxing with his loud aussie mate Anthony Mundene, a Muslim I believe, a few years ago.
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October 24, 2015 3:13pm
stephieboy

Reid , this with you specifically in mind ,

The Conspiracy Mentality in a Nutshell

The woman in this video appears to be serious, and her thought process expresses perfectly the conspiranoid mentality which suspends normal knowledge and reason and replaces them with something resembling a rabid squirrel running endlessly in a circle. –

See more at: http://www.fontcraft.com/idiotwars/the-conspiracy-mentality-in-a-nutshell/#sthash.R0IWLNhS.dpuf

Now what Illuminati signs did you encounter this week ?
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October 24, 2015 3:17pm
Inandout

Odakyu-sen 10.53: I have said before and I repeat, I think Merkel secretly yearns a return to a Police State, given her East German upbringing. She would have been keenly aware that chaos would ensue when hundreds of thousands of migrants descended on an unprepared Europe, and she must have known that the German business establishment would be affected by Muslim louts. She would also have been fully aware of the German right wingers’ response, and the utter disbelief of the German people when they see their cities swamped with human dross. Admittedly these things don’t always go to plan, and she has infuriated other EU members by almost forcing them to accept the human overflow. As Germany becomes more and more uncontrollable and ungovernable, the people will demand law and order; and very few nations are as accepting of tough laws as are the Germans. The Fourth Reich may indeed become a reality.
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October 24, 2015 3:51pm
stephieboy

Weirdness form this thing called the Atlas Monitor where 9/11 twooferism meets climate denial,

https://atlasmonitor.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/retrospective-911-and-unanswered-questions/

DUH !
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October 24, 2015 4:02pm
Don the Kiwi

stupidboy.

Its a piss-take 😉
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October 24, 2015 4:11pm
Gabby

He’s scrupulously careful not to endanger the dignity of his office by straightforward answers in Parliament. Need a fucking corkscrew to get anything resembling truth out of Ponyboy.
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October 24, 2015 5:07pm
Sir Leslie Bottocks

Paul Ryan was born on this day in 1948 (no, obviously not the Seppo fuckwit pretender politician!!).

Here’s Paul’s twin bro, Barry, singing the famous song written by Paul in 1968.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vKvUE3wd3E
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October 24, 2015 5:54pm
stigie

Gabby:- Say what you just said over at the Stranded and you would get banned,

but here you can say what you like, our host is extremely tolerant and gracious !~
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October 24, 2015 6:08pm
nasska

A question once asked on Yahoo-answers:

“What is the best way to stop your child becoming an atheist?”

Parts of one answer:

“Make them loathe their own natural bodies and functions. Convince them they are small and weak and worthless and need redemption. Tell them everything enjoyable is grievously wrong to even think about, and that their only fun should be in grovelling to an invisible friend.”

“make sure they are taught the difference between superstitious deadly error – that one raving lunatic in the desert told the truth about a vicious god who killed people, and divine eternal truth – that another raving lunatic in the desert told the truth about a vicious god who killed people.”

“Instruct them with all severity and import to never question for themselves – to never think for themselves – to never live for themselves – but to seek answers only in one – just one – particular set of semi-literate bronze age folk tales.”

Just about covers it.

https://atheistdave.wordpress.com/2011/07/06/what-is-the-best-way-to-stop-your-child-becoming-an-atheist/
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October 24, 2015 6:22pm
Reid

“What is the best way to stop your child becoming an atheist?”

No Christian parent I’ve ever met would ever do that and no real Christian would dream of inflicting such cruelty on their or any child.

People who call themselves Christian, like Capill for instance, might do that (and worse). But just because they call themselves that, doesn’t mean they are.

Shame you didn’t make that distinction nasska.

We all know you know it. You’re not dumb enough not to.
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October 24, 2015 6:43pm
stephieboy

Reid the Fraud of the Alleged Israel General and ISISis exposed as entirely bogus .

Here’s why ,

osted 21 October 2015 – 03:15 PM
“ INFOLINKS_ON cached-Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:18:37 +0000*****CAUTION*****
That website is riddled with Javascript modules, and crashed my Firefox.

Notwithstanding, the article is riddled with errors.
“The Foreign Affairs High Representative at the USA Parliament”. Since when did the USA have a “parliament”, let along a “High Representative” ?
“European Department for Security and Information” – no such institution. There is a website, but it is a hoax. (it has the NATO logo on its front page, not the EU logo).
“The Iraqi popular army”. No such organisation.

“Brigadier” – there is no such rank in the IDF. Actually, there is no such rank in ANY army. There IS something called a “Brigadier General”, but such a person would be on the General Staff and command a corps or major division (20,000 soldiers). Such an individual is hardly likely to be slumming around in Iraq. Apart from anything else, people at that sort of General Staff rank are too ‘visible’ to undertake clandestine work.

“HAISSAM BOU-SAID” is a serial fantasist/fraudster.

The whole thing is a hoax.

It would appear that Veterans Today has an anti-Israeli bias, as this is not the first time it has tried to implicate Israel with ISIS.”

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=287523

Reid, An explanation from you is called for I believe !

Veteran’s Today ’s anti Israel bias is a gross understatement !
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October 24, 2015 7:01pm
holysheet

People who call themselves Christian, like Capill for instance, might do that (and worse). But just because they call themselves that, doesn’t mean they are.

No Reid, They always let you know that they are christians, as if it makes them better than the rest of us.
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October 24, 2015 7:08pm
mikenmild

holysheet
Of course they are Christians. Reid is just invoking the No True Scotsman fallacy:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman
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October 24, 2015 7:10pm
mikenmild

And, of course, a committed Christian like Capill will still imagine he can claim his place in heaven. All he needs to do is ‘truly’ repent and all will be forgiven. Any of his victims who don’t do likewise will be consigned to eternal torment.
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