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Gabby

“It was an English mistake why he went to jail,” Soheib says. “They asked if he was GIA – a terrorism group. He said FIS – that was his party. When he said FIS, they thought he said yes.”

Sounds just like the sort of cockup pommie intelligence would make, then spend millions on hiding.
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September 4, 2015 7:12pm
Johnboy

I bet you have a great rack Gabby darling! 🙂
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September 4, 2015 7:14pm
Gabby

I bet you keep Big John’s helmet shiny Johnsboy!
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September 4, 2015 7:33pm
stephieboy

cricko,

“If we do decide that we would help the conflict in the middle east by taking more refugees from that region
why not take Christians, the most persecuted group of all ?”

Why not the Yazidis too though their neither Christian nor Muslim ?
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September 4, 2015 7:34pm
Johnboy

Tell us of the time when you lost your virginity at a Young Labour conference Gabby……. Was he a handsome young radical with fire in his eyes who was going to change the world or was he a dirty old trade unionist with a huge wallet? 🙂
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September 4, 2015 7:38pm
cricko

Reid

Don’t be pathetic mate, putting words into your opponents mouth and then pointing to where those
words are wrong is a low, risible tactic, I thought you would be above that.

That’s the tactic that the likes of stephieboy or UglyTruth consistantly use.

For the record. I have nothing against muslims as such just as long as they don’t come to New Zealand.

However, I am not so fucking stupid that I can’t understand that a basic tenet of their religion is that they believe
that I, as a non muslim must either convert to islam, pay them a monetary tax or they are justified in killing me.

Where have I got that wrong Reid ?
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September 4, 2015 7:40pm
nasska

….”The average of the public polls has National 22% ahead of Labour in August, up 8% from July. The current seat projection is centre-right 64 seats, centre-left 48 which would see National able to govern alone. “…..

….”Key’s Preferred PM rating is 3% higher than Helen Clark’s of nine years ago”……

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/09/public_polls_august_2015.html

The news will see Comrade Gabby undone! The life of a Labour flunky is not a happy one. 🙂
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September 4, 2015 7:45pm
stephieboy

cricko,

“For the record. I have nothing against muslims as such just as long as they don’t come to New Zealand.”

Wow just try and get your head around that.?

What about the 50,000 already here ?
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September 4, 2015 7:47pm
Johnboy

“The life of a Labour flunky is not a happy one.”

I’m happy to show her a happy time nasska! 🙂

She might make a nice change from sheep! 🙂
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September 4, 2015 7:48pm
Fletch

Ironic how the death of one toddler washed up on a beach can stir everyone to action, and yet there are approximately 35 abortions a day in New Zealand that no one takes any notice of.

When there are too many crosses
there are none.

A drop of blood is ghastly.
A sea of blood accepted.

We weep above a single dying beast
but whistle past a slaughterhouse.

~ Calvin Miller
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September 4, 2015 7:49pm
nasska

Probably not as pretty & some of those socialist soap dodgers smell pretty bad JB. 🙂
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September 4, 2015 7:52pm
Johnboy

“35 abortions a day in New Zealand that no one takes any notice of.”

If we washed them down the storm water drains folks would start to notice Fletch.

Our callousness is directly proportional to the ability of our local authorities to reduce the impact of sewerage on the environment really when you think about it! 🙂
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September 4, 2015 7:54pm
Johnboy

Caviar is fine. Anchovies that have been left in the sun for a while I can pass on nasska! 🙂
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September 4, 2015 7:55pm
dad4justice

Howdy Johnboy.
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September 4, 2015 8:01pm
Viking2

David Cameron is expected to announce details of new measures that could see several thousand refugees living in camps along the Syrian border resettled in Britain, Sky News understands.

The Prime Minister’s change of attitude to the migration crisis comes in the face of growing public pressure as more than 300,000 people have signed an online petition urging the Government to act.

http://www.wave105.com/news/uk-and-world/20150904-britain-may-accept-thousands-more-refugees/
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September 4, 2015 8:03pm
Reid

Where have I got that wrong Reid ?

Merely in the extraordinarily elementary observation that the simple reality is, the vast majority of the 1 billion Muslims in the world today don’t behave in any way in the ways you hallucinate cricko.

That’s where.

A bit like the AGW crowd where the planet simply and inconveniently refuses to behave in the way their “sophisticated” computer models predict it is going to behave, day after day, month after month, decade after decade.

Despite all that money and all that bullshit research and all that propaganda, the damn planet just doesn’t co-operate.

In fact cricko, it’s not “a bit” like that, you and the other sheeple, are precisely like that.

Reality says so.

Doesn’t it.
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September 4, 2015 8:03pm
stephieboy

Fletch,

maybe nobody takes “any notice ” because of this,

Anti Abortion Murder and Terrorism !

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/domestic-extremism-terrorism/c/anti-abortion-violence-americas-forgotten-terrorism-1.html
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September 4, 2015 8:04pm
Johnboy

For you dad! 🙂

“Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I’ve climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds, — and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of — wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov’ring there,
I’ve chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air. . . .

Up, up the long, delirious burning blue
I’ve topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or ever eagle flew —
And, while with silent, lifting mind I’ve trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of Richie.”
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September 4, 2015 8:05pm
Grant

Too good for him JB. Too good.
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September 4, 2015 8:08pm
Gabby

A good time? Had your stair lift fixed, Johnsboy? Nobody’s getting fooled by that one twice.
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September 4, 2015 8:08pm
nasska

That was beautiful Johnboy…..just beautiful. 🙂
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September 4, 2015 8:09pm
Johnboy

Back again after eating your noodles Gabby?

Meanwhile back at Bellamys the Labour fatcats are onto the cheeseboard, port and cigars! 🙂
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September 4, 2015 8:11pm
stephieboy

john boy’s effort appears to borrow heavily from John Magee’s Poem” Hight Flight”,

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth,
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I’ve climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds, –and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of –Wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov’ring there
I’ve chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air…
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I’ve topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark or even eagle flew —
And, while with silent lifting mind I’ve trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.

http://www.davidpbrown.co.uk/poetry/john-magee.html

Ronald Reagan recited at the Challenger Disaster memorial
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September 4, 2015 8:14pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

If we must take lots of Muslim refugees then we should require that they all live in Wellington central – the Green electorate, and daily home to NZ’s politicians. Let them live with the daily reality of non-integrating immigrants.
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September 4, 2015 8:17pm
big bruv

Evening D4J
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September 4, 2015 8:18pm
Johnboy

Course it was stephie. I changed “God” to “Richie” cause we all know the two names are interchangable, particularly where dad is involved!!!!

I never claimed it as an original ….thought all you erudite folks would recognise it! 🙂
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September 4, 2015 8:18pm
dad4justice

“Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.”

Get it right silly Johnboy 🙂
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September 4, 2015 8:19pm
Johnboy

See my 8:18 dad! 🙂
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September 4, 2015 8:21pm
Johnboy

Here’s one for nasska. I’ll give you all a clue…..”spear waggler” 🙂

Alas, poor nasska! I knew him, stigie; a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy; he hath borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how admired in my imagination it is! My gorge rises at it. Here hung those words that I have revered I know not how oft. Where be your gibes now? Your gambols? Your songs? Your flashes of merriment, that were wont to set the table on a roar?
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September 4, 2015 8:27pm
dad4justice

I see my fan club is lurking but I thought I would remind you that Richie is just another talented human, whereas God is a different level eh Johnboy.
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September 4, 2015 8:32pm
Johnboy

God never had the ability to bend the rules like Richie can dad! 🙂
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September 4, 2015 8:35pm
big bruv

Where have you been D4J?

If I ask nicely will you finally tell us what did happen at LAX?
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September 4, 2015 8:36pm
dad4justice

Haha nice one Johnboy.
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September 4, 2015 8:38pm
Longknives

What do you reckon about the Flag Debate D4J?? I thought McCaw’s comment that ‘The All Blacks ARE New Zealand’ was typically arrogant and small minded.
There is so much more to this Country’s History and Culture than Richie McCaw and his bloody rugby team…
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September 4, 2015 8:39pm
Johnboy

“There is so much more to this Country’s History and Culture than Richie McCaw and his bloody rugby team…”

Quite so. There is also the Mad Butcher and the Worriers!! 🙂
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September 4, 2015 8:41pm
dad4justice

I am surrounded by bb bots. How many identities do you have on here? What a sick thing.
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September 4, 2015 8:42pm
big bruv

Speaking of that D4J, how is Rowan?
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September 4, 2015 8:45pm
cricko

Reid @ 8.03

How the vast majority of muslims behave is not the issue. Even one religious radical can cause mayhem. Answer this, if you can.

Do you deny that I have described the fundamental beliefs of islam, as laid out in the koran accurately or not ?
Are you up to a yes or no response Reid ?

And stephieboy @ 7.47 says ‘what about the 50k muslims already here ?”

Well one thing stephieboy, we can’t do much about that now ( at least you are not up to your old tricks of putting the words into my mouth that I must be suggesting deporting all of them, I’m not.)
What I am saying is importing those muslims was a mistake that we have to live with.

But we should be smart enough to stop knocking our head against a brick wall and stop importing more of them.

There are many refugees that are not muslims that we could accomodate in NZ and that may not be a problem.

BUT……

Can you tell us why we need more muslims ?
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September 4, 2015 8:48pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Stephieboy 8:14pm

‘copy and paste’ uses far fewer resources than does thinking your own way around any subject. Any fool can see that.

(plagiarised for your benefit)
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September 4, 2015 8:49pm
Johnboy

Vietnamese dating for mature sort of men 35+????

Free trial!!!!! 🙂
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September 4, 2015 9:00pm
Johnboy

Probably best to get FES to look after the free trial part! 🙂
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September 4, 2015 9:02pm
Reid

How the vast majority of muslims behave is not the issue.

Actually cricko, it’s precisely the issue.

Because you make blanket statements which apply to Muslims. You don’t make specific statements which apply to that tiny subset of Muslims who act like vicious thugs and who CLAIM they are doing this because their religion requires this of them.

If you made that distinction then things would be fine.

But you don’t.

And your blanket assessment is PRECISELY what Hitler did when he whaled on the Jews.

Isn’t it.

Tell me where any of that is not a precise statement of your position cricko.
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September 4, 2015 9:05pm
Reid

And BTW, I told you before, I’m not advocating for Muslims and I’m not advocating increased immigration, I’m simply pointing out your fallacious position.
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September 4, 2015 9:13pm
Johnboy

The’ve all gone to bed early Reid?

Or maybe there’s a rugby match on somewhere? 🙂
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September 4, 2015 9:13pm
stigie

Evening Dad, that Big Bruv above is not him, im the real deal Big Bruv Dad !~
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September 4, 2015 9:14pm
Reid

That’s right Johnboy. They can’t handle my heavy artillery. Speaking of which, this is great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wT1xkRpCKk
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September 4, 2015 9:16pm
big bruv

Don’t believe Stigie D4J, I am the one and only Big Bruv.
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September 4, 2015 9:21pm
stigie

You will have to ask him nicely now BB ?
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September 4, 2015 9:24pm
Johnboy

Good grief Reid and I thought a 7mm Rem Mag had a bit of a kick! 🙂
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September 4, 2015 9:38pm
SPC

In response to a post earlier today from ugly I decided to google Gog and Magog. Gog of the land of Magog?

Found someone who connects them to Babel, of course the m (letter mem) differentiating the two is the base of the Hebrew ema for mother.

In the book of Jasher (son of Miriam), there is an account of Nimrud and Semiramis. She was said to have married her own son – his doing this supposedly meant that he would have the all seeing eye – great for prophetic revelation.

Apparently the sons of Noah kill Nimrud, and his mother claims to be Queen of heavan and mother of a risen god (all seeing eye and light etc)
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September 4, 2015 9:47pm
starboard

Greetings from Bangkok ! So nice to be away from feral scum maori like these..

http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/71767363/suspected-shoplifting-turns-violent-at-hamilton-asian-supermarket
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September 4, 2015 9:55pm
SPC

cricko, you cannot name any nation states where a higher tax rate is applied on non Moslems in todays world. Because there are none.
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September 4, 2015 10:04pm
Rowan

FFS BB, get it through your thick skull, I am not Dad4j, unlike you I don’t have multiple identities on this blog, as DPF has already confirmed, get your facts straight for once in your life, you imbecilic twit!!
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September 4, 2015 10:05pm
SPC

cricko, as to taking in refugees, we cannot discriminate over who we take as we receive our allocation from the UNHCR.
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September 4, 2015 10:16pm
Inandout

Please, please, no more replay footage of the boy on the beach. The media have made their case, the Greens won’t be satisfied, but Key will bring in a few more. Talk about hysteria…
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September 4, 2015 10:44pm
Longknives

Inandout- Just read someone on Facebook blaming John Key for that kid drowning..”Fuck you John Key- Blood on your hands!”

The World has gone completely fucking bonkers. Surely the kid’s Dad who put him on that dodgy boat should shoulder some of the blame? But no- the Lefties are treating him as their ‘Poster Boy’..

Christ I need a drink.
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September 4, 2015 11:05pm
Bob R

Interestingly, it is Maori women posting on Ardern’s page who are against Labour’s bill to increase the refugee quota. They rightly point to the existing poverty in the country. The contrast with middle class white women who can afford to be liberal is striking.

https://www.facebook.com/jacindaardern?fref=ts
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September 4, 2015 11:08pm
Inandout

Longknives: And now I see ‘the boy’ has resulted in Cameron buckling and allowing thousands more boat travellers into the UK. Christ, that country is doomed with this further flood of Muslims. The Mad Mullah will be rubbing his hands with glee because this will accelerate the eventual takeover; it’s almost like this whole mainly Muslim refugee thing has been orchestrated.
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September 4, 2015 11:24pm
wellygirl

So, it appears that Labour are putting up a bill to try and increase the refugee quota with no policy on how they will stop anyone with extremist ideas. Andrew Little was asked about it on twitter (sorry, I don’t know how to do a screenshot to put in my post), and his response is that it hasn’t happened yet. When challenged regarding the potential ISIS threat he called it scaremongering, despite the fact that the police in Hungary have already arrested several young men with ISIS sympathies and carrying videos of beheadings.

Is Andrew Little naive, stupid or ignorant – or all three? Clearly he is not ready to be PM and be responsible for the security of NZ.
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September 4, 2015 11:41pm
wellygirl

Inandout, and the boy’s father is apparently going back to the place he was fleeing from, supposedly in fear for his life since he was a refugee. Doesn’t do his credibility much good.
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September 4, 2015 11:44pm
big bruv

How did I know you were going to show up Rowan?
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September 5, 2015 7:14am
Manolo

The calamitous Obama legacy: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/record-94031000-americans-not-labor-force-participation-rate-stuck-38-year
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September 5, 2015 7:18am
Manolo

Another wonderful example of Australian multiculturalism: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3222151/Sydney-gangland-figure-Sam-Ibrahim-facing-deportation-new-citizenship-laws.html
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