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Dennis Horne

There was a Pin-Up-PM called Key
And a jolly fine key was he
It opened the lock
Of a bloody great crock
And the poppycock was plain to see
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September 16, 2015 8:01am
Captain Mainwaring

“I pity Australia”, was Little Angry Andy’s reaction to new Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull’s positive comment’s about John Key’s leadership.
What a pathetic, nasty, petty, ungracious, irrelevant little man the angry one proved himself to be with that comment.
Future Prime Minister material? Only in his own wet dreams.
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September 16, 2015 8:01am
oldpark

Angry Andy Little what an embarrassment to the nation of NZ and the Labour Party, with his back street gutter comments regarding Australias’ new Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, and our man for all reasons and seasons, our own Prime Minister John Key.
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September 16, 2015 8:05am
kowtow

Germany knows it has a huge problem with islam and yet their pollies , media and elites want more?

http://www.thelocal.de/page/view/prosecutors-target-leader-of-sharia-police
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September 16, 2015 8:07am
niggly

Was listening to Morning Report and was amazed at the stupidity and deceit of those advocating for the “Red Peak” flag, by saying the process so far has been “undemocratic” and that “John Key has been caught with his pants down” about it etc.

Undemocratic – really? Red Peak was in the top 40 finalists but the Flag Consideration Panel didn’t consider it good enough to be in the final list of 4. So now some social media activists then decide to relitigate putting the flag into the final 4 by removing one – now how’s that for undemocratic!

And what’s it got to do with John Key having his “pants down” when he has gone out of his way this week to ask for political support to include it into a final 5, then have Labour/Andrew Little botch it for Lefties and Red Peak activists everywhere by playing petty hate-politics?

Anyway I’m also amused by the fact that “Red Peak” supporters are pretty-much supporting a flag design that could be nick-named “Red Penis” a.k.a the “fucking flag” because if one bothers to read the Maori creation myth, Red Peak is inspired by the earth mother and sky father forever “embracing” and “producing” children (all male offspring as well, so what’s in it for females)?
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September 16, 2015 8:11am
oldpark

Was wondering what impression 10% Angry Andrew Little was making as Labour Party trade union installed leader. To quote a famous quote. “Andrew, get a bucket of water, make a fist , plunge it into the bucket of water, now take your hand out, no change”.That is the impression you are making on the voting public of NZ, Andrew. Better for you to go and do something useful,if you can find it.
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September 16, 2015 8:12am
Kimbo

@ Dennis Horne

There was a Pin-Up-PM called Key
And a jolly fine key was he
It opened the lock
Of a bloody great crock
And the poppycock was plain to see

Dennis, I’ve enjoyed interacting with you in the blogosphere and have learned some interesting things from you – including changing my opinion on the real cause of the Erebus air disaster (even though I still have Peter Mahon’s book on my shelf).

With that in mind I ask, can you please stop the poems? Irrespective of whether I agree with the political content and perspective, any initial joke has long since worn off, i.e., it has jumped the shark.

To persist as you are doing simply devalues the good points you often make – and also those you have made before. But it’s your choice.

Just saying, as a friend…
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September 16, 2015 8:14am
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Neil Finn is allowing an old song of Crowded House ” Help is coming”to raise funds of refuges. More importantly Neil strongly believes the quota needs to be raised to at least 5-10,000. He believes ( like me and many,many others ) most of the refugees have a lot to offer our country,

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/284016/'help-is-coming'-a-message-to-refugees
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September 16, 2015 8:18am
Kimbo

@ Dennis Horne

…and I’ll be counselling dime with the same advice if and when his “Parliamentary Question Time” satire out-runs its used-by date.
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September 16, 2015 8:21am
Paulus

Listening to Angry Andy you have to feel sorry for him.
What a pathetic sight – sad really as so called Leader of the Opposition (sorry Winston).
Even Grunty or Annette would not have said such a load of crap such a way.
How undignified for someone who aspires to be the Leader of our country.
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September 16, 2015 8:21am
Padriv Ustoev

Alluha Akbar!

Why is this not being reported in NZ instead of the non news about Putin and Elton John lessing off over the phone.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/11867138/Danish-teenage-girl-stabbed-mother-to-death-after-watching-Isil-videos-with-Islamist-boyfriend.html
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September 16, 2015 8:23am
big bruv

Every new bulletin, every hour, every day on both TV One and TV 3 we see an item on the NZ rugby team. Some of this news is so earthshattering that it details the movement of the team from one hotel to another, or, that the team took a walk around town.

I beg the powers that be to stop this shit, it is highly embarrassing to this nation that even major world events play second fiddle to a minor sporting team involved in a very minor sporting tournament.

Only in stupid New Zealand would an item about a largely anonymous sporting team be on the news, not the sports news but the main body of the news, its fucking pathetic.
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September 16, 2015 8:23am
waikatogirl

It’s started… 100 days till Christmas and the decorations will be up in your favourite retailers.
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September 16, 2015 8:24am
Kimbo

@ stephieboy

Neil Finn is allowing an old song of Crowded House ” Help is coming”to raise funds of refuges. More importantly Neil strongly believes the quota needs to be raised to at least 5-10,000. He believes ( like me and many,many others ) most of the refugees have a lot to offer our country,

So does that mean he is going to accommodate a couple of dozen on his substantial estate? Just asking

Neil Finn – the guy who reckoned we should use tax payer dollars to create a radio station for teenagers so they have a forum to voice their-otherwise unheard opinions. You ever lived with a teenager?!
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September 16, 2015 8:24am
RF

What a hoot. Mike Hosking with Joyce & King on his Wednesday morning policial discussion. King was on the back foot and gabbling away trying to defend Little being called out as a nasty ungracious bastard. In particular the comments he made concerning the new Aussie PM and JK. Hosking and Joyce were pointing out that the comments were totally unnecessary and not a good look. King lost the plot and spoke about JK in most unlady like terms.

It’s been mentioned many times here that the likes of Little, Presland and the rest of the Labour coven should stop their anti John Key crusade. It’s so pathetic and thankfully for the Nats plays right into their hands.
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September 16, 2015 8:27am
itstricky

Undemocratic – really?

The final four weren’t chosen by the public. Two of them are pretty much identical and they are all ferns. I read somewhere the label included a Nike marketing executive or some such thing. That’s who’s picking the candidates? Marketing execs?

And what’s it got to do with John Key having his “pants down” when he has gone out of his way this week to ask for political support to include it into a final 5, then have Labour/Andrew Little botch it

Why does he need political support? He bought it this far, he can do what he likes.

Anyway I’m also amused by the fact that “Red Peak” supporters are pretty-much supporting a flag design that could be nick-named “Red Penis”

It’s got a story. Better than muddled ferns, stars and “Just do it. Welcome to NZ Inc. Have a neeeeeccccceeee day” emblazoned on the bottom.

But, then again, I think changing the flag is a stupid waste of time, money and energy based on some over stated bollocks suggestions so I’ve no idea why I even bothered to reply.
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September 16, 2015 8:27am
mikenmild

big bruv
Hey, we get it – you have an irrational hatred of the All Blacks. Did your girlfriend leave you for a rugby player?

Perhaps it would be better for your blood pressure if you avoided the news for the next month. The World Cup is on, the All Blacks are favourites and lots of people are interested in how they are doing.
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September 16, 2015 8:29am
Kimbo

@ stephieboy

Sorry, stephie, but Neil Finn is just another member of FAG (like millionaires Russell Brand and Charlotte Church and the kid who plays Harry Potter supporting Corbyn in the UK).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOH9trJLedk
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September 16, 2015 8:29am
dog_eat_dog

The red peak ‘story’ isn’t a story, it’s what the designer tells you it means – none of which is obvious to international audiences or New Zealanders until it is explained to them.

The only thing it’s a symbol for is contrarians who got behind something that was deeply unpopular in a process most had been ridiculing right from the start.
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September 16, 2015 8:30am
Simon

Borders are being thrown up across Europe patrolled by armed guards. Well thats it then. EU project over. First the currency and now the ending of free movement of people within Europe the corner stone of the EU gone.

Huge migrant crisis created by the EU political class. Tens of thousands of economic migrants will suffer greatly in the upcoming European winter. The promise of free education, health care, housing and pension draws many to Germany but instead will end in misery in eastern europe.

The Syrian economic migrant crisis is just getting under way.
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September 16, 2015 8:30am
Keeping Stock

@ niggly – I agree. At the moment I am around 60/40 in favour of the existing flag, although the Kyle Lockwood designs are growing on me. But if Red Peak is the public choice, I will be 100/0 in favour of the status quo.
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September 16, 2015 8:30am
Padriv Ustoev

Also who is is this Niel Finn that we shoudl all listen to what he says. Isn’t he a local minstrel or something unIslamic like that?
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September 16, 2015 8:31am
Simon

“Every new bulletin, every hour, every day on both TV One and TV 3 we see an item on the NZ rugby team.”

First world problem. What a tard.
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September 16, 2015 8:32am
mikenmild

It also implies that big bruv is monitoring every new bulletin for the purposes of being further outraged.
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September 16, 2015 8:34am
waikatogirl

Elton John wanted to speak to Vladamir Putin about his stand on gay rights and has since thanked Vladamir Putin on Instagram for reaching out and speaking with him.

The Kremlin denies the phone call ever happened… Vlad is never going to admit to meeting with a gay guy!
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September 16, 2015 8:36am
Paulus Gnome

Misguided SB @ 8.18: ‘ most of the refugees have a lot to offer our country,’

Yes, and it is because we don’t have enough convicted rapists that we cannot repatriate at the end of their sentences because they may be come to an unfortunate end in their Ethiopian homeland.

We need more unproductive leeching muslims like we need sanctimonious New Zealand musicians
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September 16, 2015 8:37am
flipper

big bruv (14,790 comments) says:

September 16th, 2015 at 8:23 am

Every new bulletin,
******

First there was pocketknife (given to playing his favourite game of pocket billiards, no doubt), and then came the little sister. Both as thick as pig shite, and kicking against the pricks. Oops sorry, they are really the silly pricks, and are just kicking themselves in their heads.

Go away ‘holes. 🙂
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September 16, 2015 8:37am
big bruv

“and lots of people are interested in how they are doing.”

No Mike, no they’re not, most Kiwis don’t care about the RWC.
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September 16, 2015 8:41am
doggone7

big bruv @ 8:23 am

Were the the last two words meant to be a signature?
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September 16, 2015 8:44am
calendar girl

stephieboy @ 8:18 endorses, in effect, the use of other people’s money and the political decision-making power of Government to multiply NZ’s refugee quota up to 13 times its present annual level. Without NZ having any say on the identity or character of those 5,000-10,000 refugees who arrive here each year.

It’ll all be OK, apparently, if we continue to leave the processing and approval of those new ‘New Zealanders’ to the United Nations. What could possibly go wrong with that?
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September 16, 2015 8:46am
Keeping Stock

@ mikenmild – it seems that big bruv is one of that growing number of New Zealanders who see their sole mission in life as to be offended. When he talks about the team though as being “largely anonymous”, he’s talking crap. On our recent holiday, a Bulgarian officer on the river cruise we took chatted animatedly to me about the All Blacks when he discovered I was from New Zealand. His usual passenger muster was mainly from the USA, so he had little opportunity to talk rugby. He was also very taken by the latest Air NZ/All Black safety video.

Perhaps the All Blacks are only “largely anonymous” in big bruv’s cloistered little world 😉

Anyway; let’s take a poll; uptick big bruv’s 8.41am comment if you’re interested in the RWC, and downtick if you’re not…
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September 16, 2015 8:49am
srylands

“I Pity Australia.” ANDREW LITTLE.

I bet that will stick in the mind of Malcolm Turnbull.
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September 16, 2015 8:51am
jcuk

I tried to donate an almost new gas heater yesterday but was told “We cannot accept it, not permited to sell it, Health and Safety Regs” or something. As I walked off in disgust I caught some of her sad story “a woman in her kitchen……”.
True LPG is a dangerous item if not treated with respect as I have been doing for the past 40 years in various locations camping, boating, domestic heating, live steam model locomotives … without any problems.
Still I guess with the clientel they deal with it can be dangerous as the occasional accident shows … Darwin’s natural selection process in modern cloth?
Of course it could be H&S being used as a scapegoat for the woman or her organisations woolly thinking?

I did manage to get rid of it elsewhere where it was accepted to be dumped but I hope put to good use 🙂
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September 16, 2015 8:52am
Jack5

For the Muslim lovers and potential Fifth Column of ISIS – Milky and Stephie the Bot:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3235062/Blonde-Danish-teenager-15-murdered-mother-kitchen-knife-watching-ISIS-videos-beheading-British-hostages-online.html
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September 16, 2015 8:52am
Simon

When MSM go over the top, like when the wendyball world cup is on, give them a miss. Unless you happened to be retarded.
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September 16, 2015 8:52am
Rich Prick

“I pity Australia.”

I’m not sure what it means to have the pity of New Zealand’s most pitiful idiot. Probably not much.
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September 16, 2015 8:58am
EAD

Perhaps someone with better IT knowledge than myself can confirm but is this post by Redbaiter the most popular ever post by a NZ political blogger?

“I suspect the lowlife in the Liberal Party who betrayed Tony Abbot have severely misjudged public sentiment. All the feedback on social media and talkback radio projects a deep rage within the electorate at Malcolm Turnbull and his actions. This rage is not only targeting Turnbull, its directed at Julie Bishop and many of the others who were complicit in betraying Abbot…. “

Read more at:

http://truebluenz.com/2015/09/15/list-of-mps-who-voted-for-malcolm-turnbull-in-australian-pm-spill/

Well done Reddy.
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September 16, 2015 8:59am
Odakyu-sen

Saw an ad on the TV for the NZ Navy recruitment “to protect NZ and all that is precious to us” and I couldn’t help but notice the contrast with the government’s decision to take in people who subscribe to an ideology that would have some of us put to death.

Where is the consistency? Does the right hand not know what the left is doing?
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September 16, 2015 9:00am
kowtow

I said in an earlier post that Red Flg looked fascist. Now I realise why. Remember Hogan’s heros and those old war movies?

German Sentry box.

http://s127.photobucket.com/user/szaloga/media/Sentrybox.jpg.html
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September 16, 2015 9:01am
big bruv

KS

Wow!…you met the one Bulgarian person who has heard of rugby.

The very fact that you hang onto this as ‘proof’ that the NZ team are world famous is laughable. Most people have never heard of the NZ team. Just stop telling lies about the NZ team, you really are embarrassing yourself.
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September 16, 2015 9:01am
iMP

The good judges, lawyers and law students of Wellington take Colin Craig apart as their Colin Mockery meme of the 2015 Law Society REvue. As one of their more generous paying customers, one would think they might be more kind to the hand that feedeth them…?

https://conzervative.wordpress.com/2015/09/15/colin-craig-made-prezident-of-nz-by-legal-fraternity/

This is hilarious… https://conzervative.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/colin-craig-the-musical-god-save-our-graci-ous-co-lin/
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September 16, 2015 9:02am
Paulus

Tauranga is booming in reading that Moteliers are delighted every weekend particularly when Aucklanders come for the weekend to buy houses.
In addition they are booked out for periods whilst “immigrants” await the completion of their new houses.
Sections are being sold without publicity only word of mouth. Builders are working 7 days to finish already sold properties.
These are priced between $450,000 and $550,000 generally.
In an area of south Tauranga 2450 sections are underway – programmes being brought forward 5 years. Shopping complex underway and a new school on the horizon shortly for this area alone
Another developer who does not find special favour with the Council has 2,000 close by but is not a favoured son.
Going east to Papamoa a new suburb of expected 30,000 is underway, (Waitangi I think it is called – ex? Maori land?) again with sections and houses selling off plans. School plans underway in addition to new and expanded shopping centres.
Immigration is great for Tauranga but the amenities are going to stretch, as they have to be matched to construction.
I will not talk about Industrial/Commercial constructions current not far short of a billion dollars.
Cranes are going up everywhere with a new University campus starting later this year to augment the current further education as required (Waikato Uni campus).
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September 16, 2015 9:07am
mandk

@ waikatogirl

Why would Putin want to meet Elton John?

Who does John represent? What mandate does he have? What can he offer Russia?
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September 16, 2015 9:08am
Keeping Stock

On what do you base that “most popular post ever” claim EAD? DPF regularly has political posts that draw in excess of 100 comments.
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September 16, 2015 9:09am
Griff

Perhaps someone with better IT knowledge than myself can confirm but is this post by Redbaiter the most popular ever post by a NZ political blogger?

😆
Really EAD
True blue is a seldom read hang out for a bunch of nutters.
I will not call them far right as they are not, just terminally confused .
The most popular post.
On true blue maybe .
But that is like saying you were the smartest student….. in a rural school with ten pupils.
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September 16, 2015 9:12am
alloytoo

It would seem to me that the only thing a huge influx of refugees will do is fix the left’s major problems of reduced poverty and inequality.

Not a problem for the rest of us, but a biggie if all you’ve got to sell is solutions to imaginary problems.

Perhaps Stephie and his ilk are confusing “Refugees” with “Migrants” who do actually contribute and don’t cost us 80K a pop.
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September 16, 2015 9:14am
EAD

@ Keeping Stock

Number of eyeballs and shares on social media.

If an article attracts 100+ comments the majority of which are the likes of blog trolls Griff, Stephie, Mike mild and Shaun Herles arguing amongst themselves, does that make it a “popular” article?
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September 16, 2015 9:14am
Griff

If an article attracts 100+ comments the majority of which are ~~Griff, Stephie, Mike mild and Shaun Herles arguing amongst themselves?,~~redbaiter wanking of commenters he agrees with.
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September 16, 2015 9:17am
flipper

Turnbull/Abbott/Shorten and little Little…….

Not exactly what the MSM and the usual dickheads expected is it:

****
ROY MORGAN FINDINGS

New Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull gets immediate mandate from Australian electors as Better PM: Turnbull 70% cf. Shorten 24%

New Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has received an immediate mandate from Australian electors as Better PM: Malcolm Turnbull 70% cf. 24% Opposition Leader Bill Shorten with 6% of electors indicating either someone else, neither candidate or they couldn’t say according to a special Snap SMS Morgan Poll conducted this afternoon with 1,204 Australian electors.
Turnbull leads all key Demographics
Analysis by Gender
Men: Turnbull 72% cf. Shorten 23%. Lead to Mr. Turnbull 49%;
Women: Turnbull 67% cf. Shorten 24%. Lead to Mr. Turnbull 43%.
Analysis by Party – Turnbull leads among L-NP, ALP, Greens & Others supporters
L-NP supporters: Turnbull 86% cf. Shorten 7%. Lead to Mr. Turnbull 79%;
ALP supporters: Turnbull 50% cf. Shorten 44%. Lead to Mr. Turnbull 6%;
Greens supporters: Turnbull 57% cf. Shorten 38%. Lead to Mr. Turnbull 19%;
Ind/ Others supporters: Turnbull 68% cf. Shorten 29%. Lead to Mr. Turnbull 39%.
Analysis by State – Turnbull leads clearly across all States & Territories
NSW: Turnbull 72% cf. Shorten 19%. Lead to Mr. Turnbull 53%;
Victoria: Turnbull 69% cf. Shorten 27%. Lead to Mr. Turnbull 42%;
Queensland: Turnbull 69% cf. Shorten 24%. Lead to Mr. Turnbull 45%;
WA: Turnbull 76% cf. Shorten 20%. Lead to Mr. Turnbull 56%;
SA: Turnbull 67% cf. Shorten 26%. Lead to Mr. Turnbull 41%;
Tasmania: Turnbull 65% cf. Shorten 34%. Lead to Mr. Turnbull 31%;
ACT: Turnbull 61% cf. Shorten 30%. Lead to Mr. Turnbull 31%.
Gary Morgan says:
“Australian electors have given a massive mandate to new Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull on his first day as Prime Minister – preferring Turnbull 70% cf. 24% Opposition Leader Bill Shorten in a special snap SMS Morgan Poll conducted this afternoon on who Australian electors regard as the Better PM.
“Turnbull leads clearly amongst both genders, across all States & Territories and leads Shorten across supporters of both major parties. L-NP supporters have given Turnbull a huge show of support: Turnbull 86% cf. Shorten 7%. Even more remarkably, a majority of ALP supporters say Turnbull is the Better PM: Turnbull 50% cf. 44% ALP Leader Shorten. Greens supporters have also swung behind the new Prime Minister: Turnbull 57% cf. Shorten 38%.
“Today’s result places immediate pressure on Opposition Leader Bill Shorten over the coming few days as electors in the West Australian seat of Canning get set to cast their vote on Australia’s new Malcolm Turnbull-led Government – the Coalition should walk it in in the Canning by-election.
“The new Malcolm Turnbull-led Government must now tell the electorate how they will reverse the recent decline in Australia’s GDP growth (only 0.2% in June Quarter 2015).
“In addition real unemployment and under-employment (a total of 16.6% (2.12 million Australians) are either unemployed or under-employed in August 2015) needs to be significantly reduced while the cash economy, wages rorts (as exposed by the recent 7-Eleven & United Petroleum scandals) and union/employer corruption need to be the top priorities in establishing ‘a fair days pay for a fair days work’.”
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September 16, 2015 9:20am
Michael

I have enjoyed interacting with Dennis on the Bain saga, but like Kimbo I would have to say re those poems or whatever you like to call them, enough is enough. If it was a different subject matter every day that might make a difference, but it is just Key, Key, Key Key, Key, Key, Key, Key, Key , Key , Key , Key, Key ,Key, Key, Key, Key, Key, Key, Key , Key, day after day after day.
So how about it Dennis, presuming you are reading this comment. Don’t you think it is time to stop ? Or can’t you stop because you are now addicted?

Regards
Michael.
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September 16, 2015 9:21am
Maggy Wassilieff

@Griff

But that is like saying you were the smartest student….. in a rural school with ten pupils.

And sometimes you just might be the brightest kid in the country

http://www.havelock.school.nz/index.php/useful-links/famous-students
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September 16, 2015 9:23am
Maggy Wassilieff

@Michael 9:21

Be careful what you suggest….
your Key, Key, Key, …..
could remind Dennis of one of his less creative moments when he posted a verse of just
c***, c***, c***, c***, c***, c***
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September 16, 2015 9:28am
Lucia Maria

Very strange story, because I would have thought the impersonator would be covered under transgender anti-discrimination laws.

Woman convicted of impersonating a man to trick her friend into sex
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September 16, 2015 9:28am
Longknives

Bruv- Do you find it interesting that despite the drooling Media’s insistence on opening every Bulletin with some inane article on the All Blacks (Saw one the other day about what pictures were on the walls in their Hotel) ,They seem hell bent on pretending that the Mils Muliaina thing isn’t happening?? I’ve barely heard a whisper from the NZ media..
Compare this to the absolute hysteria a few years ago when an Auckland girl made some allegations against some members of the touring English Rugby team (which never even made it to Court)..I recall the NZ media were camped outside the English Team’s Hotel bombarding anyone they saw with questions..
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September 16, 2015 9:36am
Paulus Gnome

Od-sen @ 9.00:

What was more interesting about the defence force advertisement currently being shown on the box, is the navy launching a rib and boarding another vessel at sea.

Remind me when that blue moon opportunity arose; what did our navy do?

Nothing; wimped out and ‘shadowed’ the illegally fishing boat, made us look like real soft cocks. Want to be part of that?

Men in the navy? My arse! (Jim Royale)
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September 16, 2015 9:38am
igm

We are not going to deport an Ethiopian rapist because he will get a hard time back home. What would happen if he was a white South African, Brit, Aussie, or Canadian, or even a Christian? Come on NZ we are a joke to these exploiters.
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September 16, 2015 9:41am
Lucia Maria

New Zealand has the second highest number of school computers to students, but it might not be doing much good for their performance in key subjects, according to a study by the OECD.

I’m not surprised at all. I have two teenage boys that find it very difficult to hand write essays at exam time, when their entire school experience is typing their assignments out on the laptop. The skills required to hand write, aside from the handwriting itself, are more demanding than just being able to reorganise what has been written electronically. There’s a gap as well in that electronic exams for writing subjects are still not available.
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September 16, 2015 9:51am
EAD

After all the lies, half truths, propoganda and false flags by the fifth columnists, I would like John Key to show some leadership and rule out taking any refugees especially after reading about what has been going on in places likes Lesvos and Germany:

http://www.infowars.com/report-muslim-migrants-raping-women-children-at-german-refugee-camp/
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September 16, 2015 9:59am
Kimbo

@ RF

It’s been mentioned many times here that the likes of Little, Presland and the rest of the Labour coven should stop their anti John Key crusade. It’s so pathetic and thankfully for the Nats plays right into their hands.

Yep. It reminds me of the delusions Labour had dealing Muldoon when he was in power.

Like Key, Muldoon was essentially a centrist politician- which meant he pinched a lot of Labour policies and had a personal style that appealed to many Labour supporters. Key may have stolen different policies and has a different style, but both were in sync with their respective generations –

and Labour went into Muldoon-derangement-syndrome, with the “death-of-democracy” rubbish, when they really believed Muldoon was another Pinochet. What “hate” there was in that era originated from their warped assessment and character-assassinating rhetoric. Muldoon only responded, as per his self-acknowledged and admitted reputation as a counter-puncher.

Then Labour tried to ignore him.

It was only when Lange loved the old bastard in that final 1984 election debate with Ian Johnstone that people realised Labour had laid aside unproductive emotion…and were competent and fit to govern.

Will the current Labour crew learn the lesson? After nearly 10 years at the helm of National, and with 3 election victories by Key behind him, I’m still picking that, like the class-warfare trade unionists from whence Andrew Little draws his constituency

…they will never forget…and never learn.
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September 16, 2015 10:02am
Griff

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-15/look-out-new-zealand-here-comes-another-act-of-god
Look Out New Zealand, Here Comes Another Act of God
Tracy Withers
September 16, 2015 — 6:00 AM NZST

Droughts in 1998 and 2008 helped send economy into recession
Brewing El Nino weather pattern is strongest in 18 years
As if a 32 percent fall in the price of milk, New Zealand’s biggest export, wasn’t bad enough, the country is now bracing for a summer drought that could further hurt farmers and raise the risk of recession.

The most severe El Nino weather pattern in at least 18 years is brewing and set to bring dry winds and below-average rainfall to the South Pacific nation in the months ahead. That will play havoc with dairy farmers and other agricultural producers that together account for a third of New Zealand’s export earnings.

While no economists are yet forecasting a recession, central bank Governor Graeme Wheeler last week said if the El Nino is severe and continues into the middle of 2016, a contraction could be the result. The National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research says soil moisture levels are already falling in eastern regions and there is an elevated risk of drought later in the summer amid signs the weather event may be the worst since 1998.
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September 16, 2015 10:17am
DJP6-25

stephieboy 8:18 AM. Yes, they have an awful lot to offer. Sharia, compulsory FGM, throwing gays off tall buildings, no-go areas,
and a general slide to barbarism. That’s what happens when they have the numbers to get their way.
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September 16, 2015 10:19am
Fletch

Another shooting in the U.S narrowly averted, as an armed Muslim man walks into a church saying that God had authorized him to take the lives of infidels.

He talked about being a “man of Islam” and having demons chasing him, Johnson said.

“You’re here at the church. What can we do for you?” Johnson told him.

Aziz gave his full name and started yelling about how his God had authorized him to take lives. He talked about how it was OK for him to kill any Christian or Jew who conflicted with what Islam said. And he used the term infidels.

http://www.tylerpaper.com/TP-News+Local/224124/pastor-calms-man-during-church-threat
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September 16, 2015 10:31am
Fletch

The Lebanese Education Minister tells Cameron that 2 out of every 100 migrants are ISIS jihadists being sent “under cover”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3234458/Two-100-Syrian-migrants-ISIS-fighters-PM-warned-Lebanese-minister-tells-Cameron-extremist-group-sending-jihadists-cover-attack-West.html
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September 16, 2015 10:32am
Fletch

Tony Abbott’s parting speech on Facebook. He excoriates the media as well.

This is not an easy day for many people.

Leadership changes are never easy for our country.

My pledge today is to make this change as easy as I can.

There will be no wrecking, no undermining, and no sniping.

I have never leaked or backgrounded against anyone and I certainly won’t start now.

Our country deserves better than that.

I want our Government and our country to succeed. I always have and I always will.

I have consistently said – in Opposition and in Government – that being the Prime Minister is not an end in itself: it is about the people you serve.

The great privilege that I have had is to see the wonder of this country like few others and I want to thank the Australian people for giving me the honour to serve.

Yes, this is a tough day, but when you join the game you accept the rules.

I have held true to what I believed and I am proud of what we have achieved over the past two years.

300,000 more people are in jobs.

Labor’s bad taxes are gone.

We have signed Free Trade Agreements with our largest trading partners – with Japan, with Korea, and with China.

The biggest infrastructure programme in our country’s history is under way.

A spotlight is being shone into the dark and corrupt corners of the union movement and Labor’s party/union business model.

We have responded to the threats of terror and we have deployed to the other side of the world to bring our loved ones home.

The boats have stopped – and with the boats stopped, we’ve been better able to display our compassion to refugees.

And despite hysterical and unprincipled opposition, we’ve made $50 billion of repairs to the budget.

Of course, there’s much that I had still wanted to do: constitutional recognition of Indigenous people – getting the kids to school, the adults to work and communities safe.

I was the first Prime Minister to spend a week a year in remote Indigenous Australia, and I hope I’m not the last.

Then there’s the challenge of ice and domestic violence, yet to be addressed.

Australia has a role to play in the struggles of the wider world: the cauldron of the Middle East, and security in the South China Sea and elsewhere.

I fear that none of this will be helped if the leadership instability that’s plagued other countries continues to taint us.

But yes, I am proud of what the Abbott Government has achieved.

We stayed focused despite the white-anting.

Of course, the Government wasn’t perfect.

We have been a Government of men and women, not a government of gods walking upon the earth.

Few of us, after all, entirely measure up to expectations.

The nature of politics has changed in the past decade.

We have more polls and more commentary than ever before – mostly sour, bitter, character assassination.

Poll-driven panic has produced a revolving door prime ministership which can’t be good for our country and a febrile media culture has developed that rewards treachery.

And if there’s one piece of advice I can give to the media, it’s this: refuse to print self-serving claims that the person making them won’t put his or her name to; refuse to connive at dishonour by acting as the assassin’s knife.

There are many to thank for the privilege of being Prime Minister.

First and foremost, I thank my family for allowing me to be the absentee spouse and parent that politics entails.

I thank Margie for her grace and dignity throughout my public life.

I thank my party for the privilege of leading it.

I thank the armed forces who are serving our country and defending our values, even as we speak.

I thank my staff who have been absolutely unceasing in their devotion to our party and our country, especially my Chief of Staff who has been unfairly maligned by people who should have known better.

Finally, I thank my country for the privilege of service.

It is humbling to lose, but that does not compare to the honour of being asked to lead.

In my Maiden Speech here in this Parliament, I quoted from the first Christian service ever preached here in Australia.

The Reverend Richard Johnson took as his text, “What shall I render unto the Lord for all his blessings to me?”

At this, my final statement as Prime Minister, I say: I have rendered all and I am proud of my service.

My love for this country is as strong as ever and may God bless this great Commonwealth.

https://www.facebook.com/TonyAbbottMP/posts/10153839419833646?fref=nf&pnref=story
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September 16, 2015 10:35am
calendar girl

Thanks for that text of Abbott’s speech, Fletch. It would be difficult to imagine a more gracious valedictory in such circumstances.
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September 16, 2015 11:05am
Maggy Wassilieff

Has someone warned KB’s holiday boy?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/72095379/kiwis-arrested-in-thailand-over-unpaid-restaurant-bill
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September 16, 2015 11:21am
Manolo

German discontent:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/09/15/uk-europe-migrants-germany-poll-idUKKCN0RF0T920150915

Support for the Alternative for Germany (AfD), a right-wing party that backs a tough line on immigration, has risen to its highest level in nearly four months as an influx of refugees from the Middle East gathers pace, a poll showed on Tuesday.
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September 16, 2015 11:23am
All_on_Red

Lucia 9:51
Here’s a link to a Research Paper on how students who write their notes long hand tend to have a greater understanding of the subject than those who type notes into their lap top
http://www.academia.edu/6273095/The_Pen_Is_Mightier_Than_The_Keyboard_Advantages_of_Longhand_Over_Laptop_Note_Taking
It’s something schools need to watch.
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September 16, 2015 11:30am
stigie

Any moment now 3..2..1..

Good morning trendsetters and fags !
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September 16, 2015 11:59am
starboard

I wondered why the Thai customs guy looked at me sideways at the airport.. 15000 baht dinner for 2..that’s mighty mighty expensive. Two of us here can gorge on seafood all night including copious amounts of alcohol for 1500 baht (about 60 bucks nz )

Very good timing stiffy..
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September 16, 2015 12:01pm
starboard

Still raining today trendsetters so Samui is on the back burner. Just have to keep slumming it on Lanta.

Oh what to do..raining..just me and the princess..let me think..
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September 16, 2015 12:05pm
Lucia Maria

All on Red,

I can totally believe that on understanding with longhand notes vs typed ones.

It’s a losing battle at the schools right now. Years ago when my oldest was having trouble with his handwriting, his teacher said it didn’t matter as everything was going to be typed in the future anyway.
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September 16, 2015 12:07pm
starboard

If you are dying to see a photo of old Starboard..and I no you want to , you cant help yourselves, ( you know who you are ) google CheckInn 99 in Bangkok. Somewhere in there is a photo of yours truly singing..
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September 16, 2015 12:24pm
stigie

That bloated guy with the sunnies….is that you Starbored ?
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September 16, 2015 12:28pm
mikenmild

Do you really think many people are interested in your imaginary holiday, starboard?
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September 16, 2015 12:28pm
Kimbo

@ mikenmild

Do you really think many people are interested in your imaginary holiday, starboard?

he he he. Reminds me of the movie critic who summed up director Michael Cimino’s uber-turkey of a movie Heaven’s Gate: –

“Mr. Cimino’s approach to his subject is so predictable that watching the film is like a forced, four-hour walking tour of one’s own living room”.

http://www.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=940CE4D61638F93AA25752C1A966948260

From the same column

“”Heaven’s Gate,” which opens today at the Cinema One, fails so completely that you might suspect Mr. Cimino sold his soul to the Devil to obtain the success of ”The Deer Hunter,” and the Devil has just come around to collect.”

I take it starboard never had the equivalent of The Deer Hunter in his portfolio…
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September 16, 2015 12:33pm
Manolo

A good question: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-crisis-as-hungary-closes-its-border-what-are-the-alternatives-for-asylum-seekers-10501626.html
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September 16, 2015 12:34pm
stephieboy

DJP6-25 (1,416 comments) says:
September 16th, 2015 at 10:19 am,

what evidence do you have that our present Muslim community and our future Syrian refuges will ever do the things you claim -namely the crap about sliding into barbarism etc ?
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September 16, 2015 12:39pm
starboard

No , but I know it fucks you and your ilk off MM tee hee.
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September 16, 2015 12:42pm
gravedodger

@ Griff 0912, Old Ernie Rutherford went to the Havelock school in the 1870s. Not sure how many children there at the time but he was likely the smartest child enrolled.
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September 16, 2015 12:52pm
mikenmild

And Maurice Wilkins was from Pongaroa, so probably started his journey towards a Nobel Prize at a small school, too.

Alan MacDiarmid was from Masterton, but I don’t know what school he started at.

Two Nobel Prizes from the Wairarapa. Perhaps there is still time for nasska.
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September 16, 2015 12:57pm
Viking2

Paulus (3,149 comments) says:
September 16th, 2015 at 9:07 am

Tauranga is booming in reading that Moteliers are delighted every weekend particularly when Aucklanders come for the weekend to buy houses.
In addition they are booked out for periods whilst “immigrants” await the completion of their new houses.
Sections are being sold without publicity only word of mouth. Builders are working 7 days to finish already sold properties.
====================
Yep, 5th time since I have lived here. Highs higher and lows lower so we will get swamped with houses and we have never been short of sections. Know of one company that has taken the rights to 80 at builders terms.

another 2-3 years beforee it settles depending on our immigration and how many retirement villages get built in Auckland and Hamilton.
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September 16, 2015 12:59pm
Viking2

Talking prime ministers, Queens and things you will enjoy this.
http://screencast.com/t/8jf0dbmsM1
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September 16, 2015 1:08pm
wf

Too clever by half, Keeping Stock:

“Anyway; let’s take a poll; uptick big bruv’s 8.41am comment if you’re interested in the RWC, and downtick if you’re not… ”

Perverting the intent of the up/down tick.
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September 16, 2015 2:14pm
Nostradamus

stigie (2,446 comments) says:
September 16th, 2015 at 11:59 am

Any moment now 3..2..1..
Good morning trendsetters and fags !

Starboard was the next person to comment:

starboard (3,170 comments) says:
September 16th, 2015 at 12:01 pm

That’s amazing!
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September 16, 2015 2:23pm
thedavincimode

Wow!

So the bridge toll protester by day, wharf public relations consultant by night, has the hotties for Abbot? Was it the budgie smugglers?
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September 16, 2015 2:25pm
thedavincimode

Starbuck back from Gore? Seems perky enough … now – but then ..

♫ ♪ It started with a drip
Never thought it would come to this ♫ ♪

He may have heard this one over at the camp shower block ..

♫ ♪ You don’t remember me
Do you?
You don’t remember me
Do you? ♫ ♪
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September 16, 2015 2:31pm
Manolo

Big bruv will be nervous when his beloved rugby team faces his first opponent……..Fiji.
Just in case, he’ll take to the park a Wallaby jersey, in case his England fails to deliver!
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September 16, 2015 2:37pm
starboard

Heh..whatever ‘tards..Im on hoilday, you’re not , talk to the hand mo’fo’s…see my ass , yeah that’s right.
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September 16, 2015 2:38pm
Manolo

@stephieboy: Are you already slobbering over those “future Syrian refugees”?
NZ will be better off, much better off, without any more followers of Islam.
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September 16, 2015 2:41pm
Scott Chris

Oh what to do..raining..just me and the princess..let me think..

Inflate him?
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September 16, 2015 3:12pm
Griff

I think starboard has a thing for one of these at the moment Scott.
http://nawtythings.com/library/dolls/he_she/TS0215-7.jpg
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September 16, 2015 3:20pm
stigie

Timing is everything Nostra, dont ya wish you had my talent ?
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September 16, 2015 3:23pm
Griff

Australian change of PM is a good time to check your smoke alarms.
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September 16, 2015 3:37pm
Manolo

An activist seller of thick smoke visits the United States: http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/cdb38d70-5bbb-11e5-9846-de406ccb37f2.html#slide0

Vatican officials say Pope Francis will focus heavily on immigration during his visit, which would insert him into the middle of presidential politics and could unsettle conservatives even more than his critiques of capitalism and environmentalist rhetoric.

“The Pope obviously has a very soft spot in his heart for immigrants,” said one Holy See insider. “He won’t say, ‘open all borders’, but there’s no two ways about it, he will say, ‘let’s give our immigrant brothers and sisters a fair chance’.”
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September 16, 2015 4:09pm
stigie

Starbored about to get a tidy up…?

http://40.media.tumblr.com/49332ec5183055b7fd208c506bec21cc/tumblr_nqtbsdhrdj1qe4tfco1_1280.jpg
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September 16, 2015 4:22pm
nasska

Dear God. I’ve read some sick inducing garbage in my time but EAD deep throating Baity at 8.59am takes the biscuit:

….” is this post by Redbaiter the most popular ever post by a NZ political blogger? “…..

AND

…..”Well done Reddy.”……

Don’t sell yourself so cheaply EAD. It’s not hard to be besties with Baity…..the competition is really limited.
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September 16, 2015 4:53pm
Nostradamus

Penny opens a new corruption investigation:

Max Key – I’ll get you into Harvard: Prime Minister’s son gets top consulting role

Max Key has joined a team of graduates helping young Kiwis gain entrance into institutions like Cambridge, Oxford and Harvard.

The New Zealand business, Crimson Consulting, employs graduates from premier universities and top sports coaches to help students get into the best schools through sporting or academic achievement.

Mr Key’s role will be to help those who hope to get into American colleges through excellence in sports – particularly baseball, a sport the 20-year-old represented New Zealand at in Under-15, -17 and -19 levels.
…
A spokeswoman for Prime Minister John Key said: “Max sees [Crimson Consulting] as a great opportunity to broaden his own skill set and help … other young New Zealanders trying to make their way into top sports colleges and universities.”

I’m sure that Penny will manage to ~~find evidence of corruption~~ make unsubstantiated assertions about corruption…
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September 16, 2015 4:53pm
Nostradamus

David Seymour’s ‘harden up’ talk blasted

Act leader David Seymour’s alleged comments that people with depression should “harden up” have been denounced as “unfortunate” and “unhelpful” by mental health advocates.

This is the first sentence in the article. The NZ Herald links the “alleged comments” to “people with depression”.

The fourth sentence says something quite different. David Seymour says he was asked a question that encompassed a wide range of concerns – not solely about anxiety and depression.

The article goes on to quote extensively from a number of other people – but, crucially, no one seems to contradict Seymour’s comment that the question encompassed a wide range of concerns.

So the first sentence appears to be misleading – what a surprise.

Anyway, I suspect Seymour said “harden up” as a warm-up act for his “The French … love the coq” speech on the steps of Parliament.

Sophie Wynne, a first-year politics and law student, contacted the Herald to say she was appalled by Mr Seymour’s answer. She approached him afterwards to clarify what he meant.

“His basic response to me was someone not choosing to be happy is not making the most of life,” she said. “I asked him if he would ask someone with depression on a bad day to harden up and he said he would.”

Let me guess – she supports Labour or the Greens. Why couldn’t the NZ Herald tell us?
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September 16, 2015 5:07pm
Michael

Looks like the Norwegians are happy to take more refugees.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/09/14/uk-norway-election-idUKKCN0RE25620150914
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