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Dennis Horne

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There was a Pin-Up-PM called Key
Who understood our psychology
Borrow and spend
Will never end
The country’s havin’ a Jamboree
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August 29, 2015 8:01am
ChrisM

Now the Health and Safety Bill has passed, one can look at it a little more objectively. It was totally mismanaged by the government, but was the hapless minister dropped in it by his department? Surely someone should have seen the soundbites potential? It is known that there is a high accident rate for deer farming, so was this the main impact weighing the statistics for “other farming”
Though accident prone worm farmers made great headlines, Labour’s objections seemed to be mainly based around the fact that dairy farms weren’t going to have elected Health & Safety representatives. That is all. Could this have anything to do that ACC had cut the CTU’s money (hence Labour party funding) to run H&S representative’s training? When seen in that light, the opposition was less about being principled and more about protecting one’s income? Why am I not surprised?
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August 29, 2015 8:01am
igm

Come on National, get in the real world and take power away from Local Government, making a few rules yourselves. This latest bureaucratic bullshit in Porirua is over the top, and if they get away with it, you are no better than Geoffrey Palmer, with his Local Government Amendment Act, giving these scumbags total control of which current government has done nothing about. Ratepayers are getting very pissed off with Local Government in general, be it rates, by-laws, or the sleezy leeching bureaucrats driving around in ratepayer-funded vehicles dreaming up ways to make out lives more repressive and expensive.

ChrisM: Top analysis.
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August 29, 2015 8:01am
Viking2

ChrisM (171 comments) says:
August 29th, 2015 at 8:01 am

Now the Health and Safety Bill has passed, one can look at it a little more objectively. It was totally mismanaged by the government, but was the hapless minister dropped in it by his department?
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Actually its a result of an intellectually incapable Minister.
Do you think someone like Stephen Joyce would have fucked it up like this clown.
He is incapable intellectually of understanding the issues and correcting them before it hits the headlines.

when one gets paid a ministers salary it should be expected that the Minister is capable. He plainly is not and should be packed off back to the back bench. He will never be capable, just ain’t got the Intellectual horsepower.

Like Ruth Richardson, short man, all mouth and trousers. Selected to balance the Minister/country distribution.
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August 29, 2015 8:14am
wiseowl

igm
It is government that has created this legislation, not local government.
LG are only implementing what Central government dictate tracing back to the UN and agenda 21.

Porirua is actually not over the top ans is a taste of what rural NZ have been hammered with for years.

Urbanites pour heaps of pollutants down the drain not thinking where they will end up.

Think about it.
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August 29, 2015 8:15am
Manolo

The ancient bard has spoken,
as always like a record…broken,
the old poet hates Key with a passion,
not knowing he’s out of fashion.
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August 29, 2015 8:16am
Viking2

igm (1,570 comments) says:
August 29th, 2015 at 8:01 am

As a ratepayer why don’t you change your representatives in council to reflect what you want?

Hard ask but Trump is getting motivation for change.
help us all out make a big noise.
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August 29, 2015 8:18am
EAD

Superb article – “The lies you will hear as the economic collapse progresses”:

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2678-lies-you-will-hear-as-the-economic-collapse-progresses

“Stocks are not a predictive indicator. They do not follow positive or negative fundamentals. Stocks do not crash before or during the development of an ailing economy. Stocks crash after the economy has already gone comatose. Stocks crash when the system is no longer salvageable. Since 2008, nothing in the global financial structure has been salvaged and now the central banking edifice is either unable or unwilling (I believe both) to supply the tools to allow us even to pretend that it can be salvaged. We’re going to feel the hurt now, all while the establishment tells us the whole thing is in our heads.”
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August 29, 2015 8:21am
Viking2

Calling johnboy
Dennis and his detractors. A blast from the past.

https://www.facebook.com/624647914290150/photos/a.624658607622414.1073741829.624647914290150/868980406523565/?type=1&theater
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August 29, 2015 8:21am
Akaroa

Re Dennis Horne at 8.01 above.

I mean this in the nicest and friendliest possible way – (cheers Dennis!) – but can’t we do something to put a stop to the execrable rhymes (?) and mistaken and erroneous comments about our Prime Minister and Leader of the National Party the Right Honourable John Key that seem to be regularly appearing on this otherwise sensible blog?

Er, Dennis, old bean, old chap, old buddy, didn’t you know that John Key (genuflects) is the most popular Prime Minister that New Zealand has ever had – bar none?

And that the thinking members of the NZ population cherish the hope that we have many, many more years of John Key’s sterling leadership and management of New Zealand’s affairs.

And, whilst I’m on, can I urge you to keep taking your tablets, please? There’s a good chap!!
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August 29, 2015 8:29am
Reid

It’s quite simple. If US and European consumers aren’t buying, China isn’t making and not buying the raw materials from countries like us, Australia and Canada. Global economic meltdown. It’s not rocket science, it’s quite simple. And all the braying commenters who always miss everything, they missed 1987, the dot bomb crash, 2008, now they’re once again, missing this, by claiming we’re now recovering from the last few weeks. That’s bollocks. So listen to Celentes, because he’s one of the few who DID predict those events, and just because he’s on the shill Alex Jones’ show, this doesn’t mean he’s not correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCEpFqhlcAY
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August 29, 2015 8:29am
Chuck Bird

This is even a more difficult problem than the one DPF highlighted about the aged peadophile.

We have children removed for trivial reason like a smack on the bum and this child with brain damage was returned to his mother.

How we raised a killer
5:30 AM Saturday Aug 29, 2015

Special investigation: The 13-year-old boy who killed Henderson dairy owner Arun Kumar was a social timebomb just waiting to explode. Today the Weekend herald reveals his horrific past – and how our social service agencies repeatedly failed to take steps which could have saved him and Mr Kumar.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11504600
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August 29, 2015 8:37am
publicwatchdog

How many Kiwibloggers have ever heard of the term ‘post-separation employment’?

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August 29, 2015 8:40am
fernglas

Between the appalling rhymes from Dennis and his ilk, and the constant abuse of posters over their sexuality, substance abuse and mental health, it’s easy to lose sight of the fact that there is a lot of worthwhile stuff on this thread. Can I suggest, just for a day, that posters actually present reasoned and logical “debate” on issues that are important to them instead of indulging in puerile name-calling? Then this thread might be seen as a worthy contributor to the sum total of human knowledge and one which people might enjoy rather than merely tolerate.
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August 29, 2015 8:40am
Griff

Global economic ~~meltdown~~recession.
As we usually have on about a seven year cycle .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_recession
six global recessions since 1970: 1974–75,[5] 1980–83,[5] 1990–93,[6] 1998,[6] 2001–02,[6] and 2008–09.
gee any surprise we may get one about now.
Catastrophic only if your investment strategy does not take into account such realtys.
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August 29, 2015 8:44am
stephieboy

Reid , you might wish to check our Alex Jones psychological profile and mental stability here ,

https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200909/field-guide-the-conspiracy-theorist-dark-minds

Yours too for believing such tripe of his !
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August 29, 2015 8:50am
Reid

This is even a more difficult problem than the one DPF highlighted about the aged peadophile.

Chuck it’s not difficult at all, the solution is simple. Tamahere touches on one aspect in the article: there is no-one looking over all the involved agencies and making sure something happens. Data sharing. Simple. But we don’t have it because of the PC wankers.

That’s part one. Part two is of course not touched on at all by the PC psychobabble wankers who wrote and edited that story (e.g. note the headline? “We” failed the child. Not the parents – we (society) failed him. Fuck give me strength) – but part two is: someone who has the will to remove the kids and micro-manage the (so-called) parents.

Kick the fucking door down, take the kids away, and sit there with the parents day in day out and rub their noses in good health, good food, no alcohol – and do that 24/7/365 and who gives a fuck whether they like it or not.

So solution is known, simple and easy. We just don’t have any leadership with the will to say, do it.

Reason #47967473 why I don’t and never have rated Key, because if the conservatives don’t do it and show people how it can work, then lefties sure as hell will never take the initiative themselves, will they.

Yours too for believing such tripe of his !

stupidboy in anticipation of idiots like you getting it wrong, I took the trouble of telling you above, it’s not the shill Alex Jones talking, it’s Celentes. In addition, what the hell does your link have to do with what they’re both saying in that clip? You really understand nothing at all, do you.
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August 29, 2015 8:51am
calendar girl

“How many Kiwibloggers have ever heard of the term ‘post-separation employment’?”

Sorry, Penny, you’ll have to tell me what you’re on about this time.
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August 29, 2015 8:56am
Albert_Ross

On the case of Porirua city council, poisonous chemicals getting into stormwater drains and then straight into the sea, and igm’s argument that central Government ought to regulate these things.

That seems to me to be a classic case of something that ought to be managed at local level, simply because every locality will be different in terms of the layout of its drains, the sensitivity of its local environment, the density of its local population and where they keep their cars, local climate, the preferences and priorities of the local electorate. No single rule will be appropriate in all cases.

Thus, you might think central Government is more capable, although I am not sure that the evidence is overwhelming on that point. But local government is better placed to assess what’s appropriate in their circumstances, and they’re the ones who will have to enforce it in any case.

And isn’t the main issue anyway that some people are happily throwing poisonous chemicals down stormwater drains? Shouldn’t it be them who are the subject of our indignation? If they weren’t doing that then the harbour would be cleaner and Council wouldn’t have to take action which inconveniences many others.

Can I have some merit points from Fernglas please…
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August 29, 2015 9:00am
mikenmild

Um, Celente is a kook too, Reid:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gerald_Celente
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August 29, 2015 9:03am
Nostalgia-NZ

Dennis is barely holding on now, hoping a poem a day might turn the tide and keep the good doctors in their white coats away. Things have got kind of sad for him, he’s said some silly stuff, others now say more than enough. Will he next be holding placards at traffic lights hoping for a toot? I hope he just takes a rest, thinks about seeing a doctor – blogs are for the most part artificial, another way to lead a life but within healthy boundaries, certainly not all encompassing, or a place for relentless crusades.
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August 29, 2015 9:05am
db..

Hey Griff.
First time I have seen a comment from you that I agree with.
Especially the last line. Spot on !!
The Market has a long cyclical history and the only difficulty is “when”.
When to to step in, when to step out, when to sit down and watch.
The great constant that you can rely on is Human Behavior, modified only by greed and fear.
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August 29, 2015 9:08am
fernglas

Done, Albert-Ross. Did I detect a slight note of sarcasm, however? Tsk,tsk.
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August 29, 2015 9:09am
stephieboy

milkenmild, thanks for that . from your link,

“Gerald Celente is a “professional trend forecaster” and founder of the Trends Institute. He claims to be able to predict economic and social trends. Specifically, Celente says he predicted the booming future sales of gourmet coffee, bottled water, and gold, as well as the collapse of the Soviet Union, the 2008 recession, the Asian currency crisis, and the dot-com meltdown – among other things.[1] Indeed, it seems to be hard to find a major event he didn’t allegedly predict. Of late, Celente has been receiving an extraordinary amount of press a la Glenn Beck and Alex Jones with his assertions that American President Barack Obama’s policies will lead to food riots and tax revolts. He has accused Obama of “fascism light” and other such conservative-delighting tidbits. Celente is a frequent guest[2][3][4] on the Russian state-run[5] English news channel, RT…”

Reid, old cock no surprises !
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August 29, 2015 9:10am
publicwatchdog

Ok Kiwibloggers – in order to assist informed debate – try this?

What exactly is ‘post-separation employment’?

From the website of the New South Wales Independent Commission Against Corruption (

“Post-separation employment

Post-separation employment is the situation where a public official leaves the public sector and obtains employment in the private sector.

The principle underlying the management of post-separation employment is the need to ensure that public sector decisions are made only on their merits and not compromised by extraneous considerations or personal interests.

The Department of Premier and Cabinet Personnel Handbook refers to this issue in Section 8-12:

Employees should not use their position to obtain opportunities for future employment.

They should not allow themselves or their work to be influenced by plans for, or offers of, employment outside the department.

The type of employment which may be cause for concern is that which bears a close or sensitive relationship with the person’s former position as a public official.

Examples might be regulators who go to work in an industry they formerly regulated, an adviser or chief executive who resigns from the public service to work in the private sector in the area of his or her former expertise, or a former government minister who obtains work as a political lobbyist.

The risk of corruption is higher if the post-separation work involves contact with the former department, colleagues, or staff of the former public official.

For the most part former public officials have no restrictions imposed on the type of employment they can obtain after they leave the public sector, and many post-separation employment problems only emerge after the public official has left public sector employment.

Corrupt conduct related to the post-separation employment of a public official can occur either before or after the official leaves public employment.

Corruption risks

A risk assessment of the management of post-separation employment is likely to identify some or all of the following corruption risks:

A current public official using their position to obtain an advantage for their future employment.

A former public official attempting to influence former colleagues to make decisions that favour their new employment or private business.

A former public official establishing their own business in the same field as the public agency and approaching the agency’s clients for business, using confidential information gained from the agency.

A former public official becoming a lobbyist for a private organisation or specialist group and trying to gain confidential information or favourable treatment from former colleagues.

A current public official stealing information, intellectual property, or other resources to develop their own business and/or to enhance employment prospects with other agencies and organisations.
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August 29, 2015 9:12am
Reid

Um, Celente is a kook too, Reid:

His predictions pan out mm and stupidboy. Of course when you’re an idiot, reality means nothing, does it.
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August 29, 2015 9:18am
SGA

Once again, far more space wasted whining about Dennis than Dennis has actually wasted.
Seriously, just ignore him if you want him to get bored and stop.
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August 29, 2015 9:18am
sooty

Penny. Is post seperation employment, when you have to get a job after been seperated from your house?
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August 29, 2015 9:21am
stephieboy

Reid, what predictions of his pan out exactly ?
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August 29, 2015 9:22am
publicwatchdog

The ‘revolving door’ is another term used to explain ‘post-separation employment’.

In my opinion, in New Zealand ‘perceived’ to be now the second ‘least corrupt country in the world’ (according to the 2014 Transparency International ‘Corruption Perception Index’) has a ‘revolving door’ at both local and central government set on permanent rotation.

Penny Bright
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August 29, 2015 9:25am
calendar girl

Thank you for that overly-long, erudite lecture, Penny. Just what I needed to kick-start a restful weekend.

Why not just link to the website, perhaps giving us a line or two to indicate your intent, or your concern, or your admiration?

I thought you were talking of marital divorce, followed by a stay-at-home mum going out to work.
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August 29, 2015 9:28am
Reid

Excellent update on Yemen:

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.ca/2015/08/total-war-in-yemen-totally-ignored-by.html
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August 29, 2015 9:28am
mikenmild

His predictions pan out

Easy to do when you write them after the fact, as Celente does.
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August 29, 2015 9:29am
Reid

Most people don’t know this but fact is, Western media (being propaganda outfits) have a reporting hierarchy. This is why Swedish media don’t report the fact that most rapists are Muslims. Because even though women are right up there above men on the hierarchy, Muslims are higher. It’s also why we’re right now yet again observing the self-same hierarchy in operation in a completely different arena – the US, in relation to white-black relations. The media whips up reports on white on black crime, but it’s real real silent on black on white crime. Notice that? You should. It’s all part of the matrix of the way our world works, and newsflash, those are facts, not theories. All you have to do is observe.

…Had a white straight man killed a black gay man, released first-person tape of the shooting, and then unleashed a manifesto about being victimized by affirmative action and anti-religious bigotry from homosexuals, the media would never stop covering the story. They’d be eager to report that shooter’s motives with all the attendant politically correct hullaballoo about the racism and homophobia of the United States more broadly. We would hear about white supremacy (reprehensible Black Lives Matter leader Deray McKesson actually jumped the gun, thinking the shooter was white, and tweeted, “Whiteness will explain away nearly anything”).

We would hear excoriations of the Republican presidential candidates for their failures to stand with the Black Lives Matter movement–and their opposition to same-sex marriage. In similar circumstances, the entire political and media establishment determined that the Confederate flag was somehow to blame for Dylan Storm Roof’s brutal slaying of nine people at a historically black church; just last week, the media tried to blame Donald Trump’s anti-immigration stance for two thugs beating up a Hispanic homeless man in Boston.

But Bryce Williams’ self-described victim status, even while murdering innocents, will merit no rethinking of the divisive politics in which he apparently bathed. We won’t have a conversation about whether pushing a perennial picture of victimhood for blacks and gays in the most black-friendly, gay-friendly country on the planet could drive supposed victims to violence. We won’t talk about whether the Democratic Party’s takeover by the Black Lives Matter crew has encouraged some people to believe that only black lives matter, since only black lives are in danger – and even then, only some black lives matter, namely those killed by white people. Instead, we will be assured that Bryce Williams is an outlier by the same people who blamed Sarah Palin for Jared Lee Loughner shooting Gabrielle Giffords…

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/27/suddenly-media-worried-over-reporting-race-based-motive-of-killer-of-white-reporters/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/26/black-gay-reporter-murders-straight-white-journalists-media-blame-the-gun/
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August 29, 2015 9:38am
billmurray

Where is Twyford and Salmond, Jacinda has just knee-capped them.
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August 29, 2015 9:40am
stephieboy

Reid, I find it difficult to take Breibart’s claims about media biases and the Charleston and Flanngan shootings seriously. it’s like comparing Apples with Carrots. Two white TV reporters gunned down on the job vs 9 Black people praying in a Church etc

The evil MSM have not in any way tried to hide the identity nor the race of Flannagan . it’s all in Briebart’s conspiracy and paranoid fevered mind.
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August 29, 2015 9:47am
Scott Chris

We have children removed for trivial reason like a smack on the bum and this child with brain damage was returned to his mother.

Which child was removed for a ‘smack on the bum’?

Plainly this child was born into an unsafe environment, as were his parents and grandparents. The parents failed because they didn’t provide a safe and nurturing environment for the child to grow up in. The state and its agencies (such as the Waipareira Trust) failed because they didn’t effectively intervene. The school failed, the hospital failed – everybody failed and ultimately the child failed.

So what would you have done to help this child Chuck? Provide a safe home for him to live in maybe? Could you have coped with his behavioural problems or should it be someone else’s problem?
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August 29, 2015 9:48am
publicwatchdog

It wasn’t a ‘lecture’ Calender Girl – it was a direct quote from ICAC NSW.

Given the lack of knowledge and understanding of most New Zealanders on this ‘revolving door’ practice – which- in my opinion, is ENDEMIC here, I thought a clear definition of ‘post-separation employment’ from a proven and well-known anti-corruption agency would assist.

Kind regards

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August 29, 2015 9:51am
igm

Viking: To change the composition of council we would need to get back to a point where principal ratepayers only, voted in local body elections. At present there are sometimes 10 non-ratepayers in one house all voting, and they are out for all they can get, hence we get these elected fiscally dyslexic lefties as in Porirua. These non-ratepayers utilise all the infrastructure provided by ratepayers, not personally contributing anything, and invariably they are of a left persuasion, so vote for these losers that are breaking us.
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August 29, 2015 9:53am
Scott Chris

His predictions pan out

Reid, it’s the old story of 1000 monkeys with 1000 typewriters. If you make enough predictions, someone will eventually look prescient.
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August 29, 2015 9:56am
Reid

How come the US after successfully building all those air-superiority fighters since the 1940’s, has done so badly with the F-35? The F-22 is alright albeit probably only the equal if slightly the inferior of the SU-35S depending on the pilot. But as we all know the F-35 is a trillion dollar no-hope white elephant. How come? How come after all that institutional knowledge and experience, precious funds have been poured down defense contractors mouths with absolutely no result whatsoever? Is it the revolving door combined with the utterly hopeless politicians of the last twenty years? Is that why?

There is no doubt in my mind that the US has weapons systems from the black budget that are the best in the world, so maybe they don’t really care that planes like the SU-50 are going to kick their air-superiority arse. But even so, it’s a mystery why they’ve let the F-35 drag out long after it was evident there was no hope of saving it and it needs to be pulled.

Some might say it’s a deliberate strategy to use taxpayer funds to prop up the defence contractors via the revolving door, but the same people who own the defence contractors also own the majority shareholdings in the banks, and to those people, a trillion is chump change. Seriously. I mean the GFC got the banks 16 trillion. (Look it up – TARP was just for the idiot sheeple to bleat over, the real figure is 16 trillion). For example. So why would they care?

Another possible is they’re doing what Hulun did to us. Spend precious defence dollars on a system with no pointy bits. Just like she did with the LAVs. Because the F-35 has no pointy bits in reality. If your air-superiority fighter can’t even beat an F-16, it’s got no pointy bits in today’s skies.

It’s an interesting question.

Meanwhile, of course, Russia is showing its no slouch, not that it ever has been, except in the minds of the Western sheeple idiots fed by their Western propaganda channels.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/maks-is-russia-developing-an-f-35-hunting-uav-416065/

http://www.ibtimes.com/new-russian-sukhoi-pak-missile-fifth-generation-stealth-fighters-exceed-mach-35-2069926
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August 29, 2015 9:58am
Scott Chris

To change the composition of council we would need to get back to a point where principal ratepayers only, voted in local body elections

Imagine chairing a board ~~with the likes of igm on it~~ comprised solely of self interested, whiney members. What fun that would be.
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August 29, 2015 10:00am
publicwatchdog

The reason why I have raised this issue of ‘post-separation employment’ Kiwibloggers, is because yesterday I was informed by Assistant Auditor-General Bruce Roberston, (Local Government) was that it was his last day, and he was leaving to become a consultant for Morrison Low.

After subsequent ‘googling’ – I found out that Morrsion Low are consultants who specialise in work pertaining to local government.

(Please also be reminded that the ‘principal / platinum’ sponsor / partner for Transparency International New Zealand is – the Office of the Auditor-General.)

Penny Bright
‘Anti-corruption whistle-blower’
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August 29, 2015 10:01am
Reid

A society whose citizens refuse to see and investigate the facts, who refuse to believe that their government and their media will routinely lie to them and fabricate a reality that is contrary to verifiable facts, is a society that chooses and deserves the police state dictatorship it is going to get. — Ian Williams Goddard
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August 29, 2015 10:05am
stephieboy

Reid, nobody has suggested the Russians are slouches in term of aviation technology . Fortunately we have never had the opportunity to see both US and Russian high tech fighters in action against each other to make definitive conclusions.

One thing though ,their anti aircraft missile systems are certainly impressive, as we have recently seen with the downing of Flight M17.
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August 29, 2015 10:09am
mikenmild

Ian Williams Goddard

I haven’t come across this particular crank before, Reid. could you tell me a bit about him?
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August 29, 2015 10:11am
publicwatchdog

Recommendations from ICAC NSW for ‘managing corruption risk’ arising from ‘post-separation employment’:

” Managing corruption risks

As a minimum your agency should:

Introduce policy and procedures for allocating resources to clients which contains elements listed in the Policy Development Guide and Checklist (see Tips and tools below).

Include in the policy sanctions for any breach of the policy and procedures.

Review the policy every two years.

Refer to the management of post-separation employment in relevant corporate documents such as codes of conduct.

Train all relevant employees in the policy and procedures to ensure they are aware of their accountabilities and responsibilities.

Include the management of post-separation employment as a risk to be assessed in the agency’s internal audit and corruption risk management processes.

Include the obligation to protect confidential information as a condition of the employment of new employees and ensure this is reflected in the agency’s code of conduct.
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August 29, 2015 10:11am
publicwatchdog

From ICAC NSW :

“Risk management strategies

Following your risk assessment of post-separation employment you should consider these risk management strategies:

Protecting the agency’s information by:

Assigning all agency documents a security rating that is recorded on all printed and electronic copies and denotes their accessibility.

Maintaining a record of who has access to confidential information with an audit trail to monitor this access.

Keeping a record, as part of the agency’s exit processes and protocols, of the return of all agency resources allocated to departing employees.

Managing external relationships by:

Including information about post-separation employment in the agency’s statement of business ethics.

Including a specific statement in the agency’s code of conduct about the ethical issues and corruption risks raised by post-separation employment and stating the restrictions on employees.

Requiring employees to advise the agency when they are contemplating leaving the public sector for employment that may have a sensitive relationship to their work as a public official.

Considering implementing “cooling off periods” for positions where it is likely that public officials may take up employment in businesses that have a close or special relationship to their former roles as public officials.

Requiring current employees to conduct their official dealings with former colleagues at arm’s length, for example former employees who tender for contracts with the agency.

Requiring current employees to report all non-routine contacts by their former colleagues which involves attempts to influence or lobby the remaining employees.
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August 29, 2015 10:16am
Scott Chris

This is quite cool. Imagine you’re a sniper scanning enemy targets with your scope. Suddenly you spot an enemy sniper who has also just spotted you. Your reflexes are the quickest and you shoot the enemy straight through his scope into his brain. Is this possible?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1U8YVWyMYY
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August 29, 2015 10:26am
Jacob

Penny Bright

 You have protested rates payment for years but the exact detail you require before you will agree to pay your rates has never been defined precisely.
In absolute detail, as we could expect in “transparency” and “honesty”, please inform us, as other ratepayers who subsidize you relieving yourself each morning, or having water for a cup of tea. 
What exactly do you need to know to enable you to pay your rates like any other home owner in Auckland?
Meant kindly, in a “once be honest” sort of way.
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August 29, 2015 10:27am
stephieboy

Pennybright, in passing I saw you at Aotea Square Sinday about three weeks ago cutting a rather , lonely lame and sad picture with about no more 20 people protesting the rates increases.

How is your ” Rate Payers” “revolt ” going as a matter of interest ?
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August 29, 2015 10:30am
Reid

In order for the light to shine so brightly, the darkness must be present. — Francis Bacon

The short term pain of accepting a truth is much better than the long term pain of believing an illusion

Presidents are selected, not elected – FDR

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored – Aldous Huxley

A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death. — Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (1954)

The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth that men prefer not to hear – Herbert Agar

The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind. — Edward Bernays [Sigmund Freud’s nephew and the man who founded the modern PR industry. Professional liars, as the late Frank Haden used to call them.]

The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. – Plato
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August 29, 2015 10:35am
Reid

One thing though ,their anti aircraft missile systems are certainly impressive, as we have recently seen with the downing of Flight M17.

stupidboy it’s hardly surprising is it that Russian missile systems were operating in Ukraine. The operative point as Andrei has pointed out multiple times is who was using the one that downed that plane, and the fact it was Russian means absolutely nothing. We all know you’re an idiot so you’re never going to understand that basic distinction, but my question is, do you leap into the air for no reason whenever you go through a gate?
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August 29, 2015 10:39am
Kimbo

@ igm

not personally contributing anything

Who pays the rent on the property from whence the landlord deducts expenses for rates?
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August 29, 2015 10:46am
Akaroa

Fernglass at 0840 posted, inter alia: “…….Can I suggest, just for a day, that posters actually present reasoned and logical “debate” on issues that are important to them instead of indulging in puerile name-calling? …..”

Oh Fernglass! My dear, dear, deluded poster. Didn’t you know that this, and every other blog i can think of, is just a medium for the exhibitionists and one-issue-grobnicks amongst us to launch into print and vent their spleen and boring-to-everyone-else-pet-issues?

If I knew of a place that you could go to to get measured, thoughtful, and cogent comment or input, then i would be pleased to direct you there. Try the Oxford Union or your local Debating Society – if such exists.

But alas! The internet blogosphere, chat-room or what you will, is merely the instrument and forum for those who otherwise want for an audience to launch forth on their own often petty, one-issue type, and often looney-tuned prognostications.

And, yes, I include myself in that condemnation. Why do you think almost everyone posts under an undetectable pseudonym?

Dream on old fella, from your post its nice to know that some of the old values are still sculling around the rapidly emptying grubby wash-basin of online comment!!
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August 29, 2015 10:46am
Reid

The truth may be puzzling.
It may be counter-intuitive.
It may contradict deeply held prejudices.
It may not be consistent with what we desperately want to be true.
But our preferences do not determine what’s true.
– Carl Sagan

My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists. — Nikola Tesla

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it. — Martin Luther King Jr. – Think about that as you consider your attitudes toward the UKUSA-Israel generated conflicts of today, from Iraq and Afghanistan to Libya to Syria to Yemen to Ukraine to …
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August 29, 2015 10:49am
stephieboy

Reid, thats right the “operative point” is who was using one ? Strong circumstantial evidence indicates the rebels were using one with possible Russian advisers downing a Ukraine AN26 military transport about a week prior ,

http://www.vox.com/2014/7/18/5914139/ukrainian-rebels-shot-down-two-planes-in-the-last-month

At least Andrei , RT and maybe you etc have come a long, long way from the orginal ludicrous Ukraine Su 25 jet intercept theory .
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August 29, 2015 10:49am
Jacob

Penny Bright
You take a public position on which you base many of your actions and comments.
So there is a simple straight forward question –
What exactly do you need to know from Auckland Council to enable you to pay your rates like any other home owner in Auckland?
After thinking about it in the eight years, is it, that you have not paid rates, you must have a concise, simple statement of what you require.
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August 29, 2015 10:50am
Kimbo

@ Reid

(The truth) may contradict deeply held prejudices.

Fair enough. But how come every and any “may” gets turned into an “is” – and anyone who dares to question the conspiracy is clearly a moron duped by “the system”, e.g., “Think about that as you consider your attitudes toward the UKUSA-Israel generated conflicts of today, from Iraq and Afghanistan to Libya to Syria to Yemen to Ukraine to …”

How come conspiracy theorists, who demand scrutiny and extreme skepticism of “accepted orthodoxy”, in effect refuse to be subjected to even cursory examination and questioning of their motives, data, and conclusions?

Just asking…
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August 29, 2015 10:57am
starboard

http://i.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/71557411/Man-assaulted-after-he-tried-to-aid-punched-motorist

The special people have been out in force again beating and assaulting honest folk going about their business.

What is it with maori ? What makes them think they can wander around in packs causing mayhem and violence?

Why are they so unintelligent ? Why are they so violent , almost like wild dogs. How do we stop them?

Vigilante groups maybe ? We have to do something ..Governments not doing anything , they don’t care?

Maybe if I take a few out one dark Saturday night, might spark some movement within. Got me beat.
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August 29, 2015 11:01am
wellygirl

So Penny, let me see if I have this correct.

In your opinion there is a ‘revolving door’ between govt and private sector of employees moving from one to the next, and you are implying that this is a corrupt practice, and therefore those that do it must be corrupt, and (again) in your opinion it is endemic, but all you can come up with is a lawyer that has worked for the Govt who is leaving and going to work for a (shock, horror) law firm, and so since you imply this is a corrupt practice your implication is that you believe he is corrupt, and all of this with no evidence.

Hmmm….. I think I can do this.

In my opinion it is endemic that those who protest the TPPA are bludgers who do not pay their fair share to society via rates/taxes, and this could be considered an illegal activity as it is set out in law this is the responsibility of good citizens. The reason I raise this is because there is a well known anti TPPA protestor in Auckland who is not paying the legally required rates.

Have I got how this works Penny? make a connection between two events, imply it is illegal or corrupt, say it is endemic and then come up with one example.
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August 29, 2015 11:14am
RF

starboard. 11.01am.

There are some evil scum savages that slither around this country. It’s very difficult to put into words what I feel should be done to these worthless bastards as we have laws preventing executions.
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August 29, 2015 11:14am
UglyTruth

How come conspiracy theorists, who demand scrutiny and extreme skepticism of “accepted orthodoxy”, in effect refuse to be subjected to even cursory examination and questioning of their motives, data, and conclusions?

Because those who put forward conspiracy theories are not necessarily doing it with the best of intentions and logical rigour.

Take the MSM conspiracy theory of 9/11, for example, which is disproven by the highly energetic controlled demolition of the WTC.
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August 29, 2015 11:18am
mikenmild

Nice attempt at reversal there, Ugly. But it’s not a conspiracy theory when it is the generally (well, overwhelmingly) accepted account of what happened.
But nice of you to include the media in the list of those who must have been in on the conspiracy. Takes the total number of conspirators to 863,889 now. And not one whistleblower yet.
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August 29, 2015 11:21am
Fletch

Looks like the Nazi gold train has actually been found, via a deathbed confession.

The remarkable tale of the legendary Nazi gold train took an astonishing twist on Friday, when a Polish minister said that the train’s existence was confirmed in a deathbed confession.
Piotr Zuchowski, head of conservation at the culture ministry, said authorities had seen radar images of a train discovered by two treasure hunters – and that its location was divulged to its finders by one of the men who hid it

“A man on his deathbed gave the people looking for the train the information they needed to find it,” he said.
Mr Zuchowski described the find as “unprecedented”.
Since the end of the Second World War rumours and legends of a Nazi gold train that disappeared without trace in the dying days of the conflict have swirled around the town of Walbrzych, in south-west Poland. Stories put the train in the hills around the town, but despite many attempts to track it down it was never found – until now, it seems.

Mr Zuchowski told a press conference on Friday that the dying man was involved the operation to hide the train 70 years ago. The identity of the man, and the two treasure hunters – believed to be a Pole and a German – who claimed the find last week has not been revealed, and remain part of the mystery still surrounding the train.
The minister said he is now “99 per cent” that the train has been found, after seeing photographs of an object taken with ground penetrating radar.
“This is unprecedented. The train is over 100 metres long, and is armoured. We do not what’s inside but its armour indicates it has a special cargo,” said Mr Zuchowski. “There is probably military equipment but also jewellery, works of art and archive documents which we knew existed, but never found.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/11831081/Nazi-gold-trains-existence-revealed-in-deathbed-confession.html
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August 29, 2015 11:23am
Griff

Watch the towers collapse ugly .
They go from the top down.
Controlled demolition would be from the bottom up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhyu-fZ2nRA
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August 29, 2015 11:24am
Fletch

A group of nearly 200 retired admirals and generals urge Congress in America to reject the Iran deal. Will they listen? I doubt it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/retired-generals-and-admirals-urge-congress-to-reject-iran-deal/2015/08/26/8912d9c6-4bf5-11e5-84df-923b3ef1a64b_story.html?postshare=1061440614174911
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August 29, 2015 11:27am
starboard

Mr downticker ( MM ). so what is your solution to the uncontrollable violent maori thug ?
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August 29, 2015 11:30am
stephieboy

Ugly truth, gives us a time estimate to lay the charges for the WTC towers and WTC 7 or are you still sticking to your remotely assisted controlled plane theory ?
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August 29, 2015 11:31am
Chuck Bird

“Maybe if I take a few out one dark Saturday night, might spark some movement within.”

@starboard

What are you suggesting – that you will pick some innocent Maori at random?
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August 29, 2015 11:34am
Scott Chris

What is it with maori ? What makes them think they can wander around in packs causing mayhem and violence?

Why are they so unintelligent ? Why are they so violent , almost like wild dogs. How do we stop them?

Oh fuck off Star-bore you racist cunt.
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August 29, 2015 11:35am
mikenmild

Kia ora, starboard. Kei te pehea koe?

Isn’t violent crime on a downward trend?
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August 29, 2015 11:35am
itstricky

Mr downticker ( MM ). so what is your solution to the uncontrollable violent maori thug ?

Four commentors down ticked you.

Your solution appears to be uncontrollable violent thuggery. Nice one. I imagine my response to your uncontrollable violent thuggery would be to call the cops, just as I would have if I happened to witness the good Samirtan being attacked.

Watch yourself starboard, you’re beginning to creep me out.
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August 29, 2015 11:35am
Griff

Vigilante groups maybe Maybe if I take a few out one dark Saturday night,

Go ahead starboard you can then tell us all about gay stuff in jail for the next decade or so.

We have police and a justice system for a reason.
One of the reasons is fuckwit vigilantes are inclined to go and attack the innocent just as much as they attack the guilty
Violent Maori thugs will not be cured by becoming a violent white thug .
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August 29, 2015 11:37am
Manolo

Internecine war : http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/08/28/martin-omalley-rails-at-democrats-for-debate-schedule-rigged-to-aid-hillary-clinton/?_r=1

“This is totally unprecedented in our party’s history,” Mr. O’Malley said. “This sort of rigged process has never been attempted before. Whose decree is it exactly? Where did it come from? To what end? For what purpose? What national or party interest does this decree serve? How does this help us tell the story of the last eight years of Democratic progress?”
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August 29, 2015 11:37am
starboard

Still no solution from scottchris ( who I must ask ,with his violent outburst , are you maori ? )

MM..obviously it is not..your solution ?

Itsdrippy…whatever..

Thanks Griff…sorry the police and courts are spineless and ineffective…your solution again ?
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August 29, 2015 11:38am
stephieboy

Fletch on the other hand,

“Dozens of prominent Iranian activists, both living at home and overseas, have in recent days expressed their support for the successful passage of a nuclear deal between Iran and world powers, and urged lawmakers in Washington not to thwart the work of many months of concerted diplomacy….”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/08/26/these-iranian-pro-democracy-activists-want-congress-to-back-the-nuclear-deal/
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August 29, 2015 11:41am
starboard

“What are you suggesting – that you will pick some innocent Maori at random”

Where did I say that ? Im talking about violent maori thugs..you know , the tattooed motley unkempt he men who roam around in packs..do you live in a bubble ?
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August 29, 2015 11:42am
Griff

Your attitude is merely more mindless violence.
This makes you no better than them .
Why are you so unintelligent ? Why are you so violent , almost like a wild dog. How do we stop you?
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August 29, 2015 11:45am
mikenmild

What do you mean, starboard you fuckwit: “obviously it’s not”?
Do you think the crime statistics are made up?
Perhaps you should hang around the public toilets tonight, just to make sure everyone is safe. If anyone asks you what you are doing, say you want to check out their tattoos.
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August 29, 2015 11:46am
starboard

FFS you dumb fuck..WHAT IS YOUR FUCKING SOLUTION THEN !!!!?????????

Its a simple question..while I thought it was anyway.
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August 29, 2015 11:46am
Manolo

Swamping Europe by land and sea. There are fools who would welcome them here.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150828/migrants-364c774e57.html
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August 29, 2015 11:48am
starboard

Yes MM..the crime stats are merely smoke and mirrors bullshit.

Any particular public toilet you would like me to attend tonight MM ? Which one do you frequent the most..I’ll stand outside and giggle while you are getting rogered.

That is all

Be seated.
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August 29, 2015 11:50am
Griff

We did promise to hold off on the abuse.
it was all going swimmingly for a while .
Then along comes kiwi rambo.
and the fun starts
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August 29, 2015 11:52am
Simon

“WHAT IS YOUR FUCKING SOLUTION THEN”

Use the proceeds of the Nazi gold train to create green jobs in rural areas.
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August 29, 2015 11:54am
UglyTruth

Ugly truth, gives us a time estimate to lay the charges for the WTC towers and WTC 7

The amount of time to place charges is irrelevant when the fire in WTC7 would have prevented it from happening in the first place.
The rapid symmetrical collapse and the recordings of explosions can only be explained by a pre-planned controlled demolition.

or are you still sticking to your remotely assisted controlled plane theory ?

I’ve since seen an video analysis of the south tower explosion which shows a CGI error which makes it appear that the front of the aircraft passed completely through the building. The camerman who shot the live footage had CGI skills and he lied about various aspects of the footage.
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August 29, 2015 11:56am
UglyTruth

Watch the towers collapse ugly .
They go from the top down.
Controlled demolition would be from the bottom up

No, it depends on how the charges are timed.
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August 29, 2015 12:00pm
howitis

publicwatchdog (4,478 comments) says:
August 29th, 2015 at 10:01 am
The reason why I have raised this issue of ‘post-separation employment’ Kiwibloggers, is because yesterday I was informed by Assistant Auditor-General Bruce Roberston, (Local Government) was that it was his last day, and he was leaving to become a consultant for Morrison Low.

…..Penny
If you know about local authorities you should have known who Morrison Low is without having to ‘google it’ . They have been an integral player for some time.

I agree there should be a separation but heck you would have to look far and wide to not find it in NZ.

Labour party is a feeder pod for the UN. One bloke went reverse flow on this. Not a wise idea. Shearer. Now he sleeps with 2 dead fishes.
National places its ex MPS well eg Jacqui Blue or Katherine Rich.

Perhaps it is better they stay in the system than pollute external business with dodgy directorships. There are many examples including some convicted ones. XXXXXX Names withheld to protect the guilty (and protect me from lawsuits) .

For public service employees there is employment law which frowns upon restrictive contracts that prevent you from selling your skills for best return. Far from ideal but a reality in a small pond with very limited true commercial activity.
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August 29, 2015 12:01pm
Chuck Bird

“Where did I say that ? Im talking about violent maori thugs..you know , the tattooed motley unkempt he men who roam around in packs..do you live in a bubble ?”

I don’t live in a bubble. I in Ngaruawahia. I drink in both pubs mind my own business and walk home with the lower alcohol limit.

A number of Maori there have tattoos. Why not come and challenge them one of the time?
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August 29, 2015 12:01pm
itstricky

WHAT IS YOUR FUCKING SOLUTION THEN

My solution, as before, is definitely call the cops and tell them some weird racist guy is talking about forming vigilante groups to go out and kill Maori this weekend. I think that’d sort all of our problems.
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August 29, 2015 12:01pm
itstricky

Which one do you frequent the most..I’ll stand outside and giggle while you are getting rogered.

That statement is not doing wonders for your already ingrained reputation there. You realise that, don’t you?
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August 29, 2015 12:03pm
starboard

LOL..you guys are funny..I love you guys…( especially u scottchris , you’re fab x )
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August 29, 2015 12:07pm
stephieboy

Mick West administrator of Metabunk sums up the situation on 9/11 succinctly ,

“The Penthouse ( WTC 7 ) fell first because the internal structure of the building had collapsed.

There were plenty of explosions, how could there not be? Huge fire. Things falling from 1000 feet.

Clearly that firefighter had experienced extreme events, and only had a very limited picture on what was happening. Lots of people though thought there might be bombs.”

A thousand foot collapsing is tower is bound to make many different kinds of noises – rumbles , roars including explosions etc.etc ,but certainly not the distinctive successive crack, crack, boom , boom with ejection of materials , dust etc associated with controlled demolition

https://www.metabunk.org/wtc-7-building-7.t1094/

Excellent video on why WTC 7 collapsed the way it did ,
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August 29, 2015 12:10pm
Griff

itstricky
They keep an eye on us.
The spy’s have specialists at monitoring the internet etc.
This is a political blog it will have someone who reads it regularly to pick up on any potential problems developing.
Starboard just earned himself a little file marked potential loon keep an eye on if there was not one already.
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August 29, 2015 12:11pm
calendar girl

“The reason why I have raised this issue of ‘post-separation employment’ Kiwibloggers, is because yesterday I was informed by Assistant Auditor-General Bruce Roberston, (Local Government) was that it was his last day, and he was leaving to become a consultant for Morrison Low.

“After subsequent ‘googling’ – I found out that Morrsion Low are consultants who specialise in work pertaining to local government.”

So, Penny, are you suggesting that Mr Bruce Robertson’s move to employment by that specific firm is an example of ‘corruption’? If not, can you explain to us exactly what you are implying by your ‘post-separation employment’ posts on this thread?
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August 29, 2015 12:13pm
ex-golfer

Debunking the conspiracy theory:

After four years of research, the release of official conclusions left many unsatisfied. Both buildings were designed to survive the impact of a commercial airliner and the fireproofed steel structures should have survived the fires that followed – yet within two hours both towers had collapsed.

In addition, video footage of molten metal pouring from the damaged floors and eyewitness reports of explosions before the collapse were not addressed fully, fuelling conspiracies of a government plot to destroy the towers and drag America into a war on terror.

Retired chemist Dr Frank Greening agrees that the report is unconvincing. He immediately spots a glaring omission in the official report – the missing evidence – the role of the airplanes themselves in the collapse. According to the official report, the aircraft disintegrated on impact and played no part in the events that followed. As a chemist, Frank Greening cannot believe that the presence of 30 tons of aluminum can be simply dismissed.

In Norway, Dr. Greeningʼs work finds support from metallurgist Christian Simensen, who is also unconvinced by the official findings. After 30 years in the metal industry, Christian knows only too well that 30 tons of aluminum alloys in the heart of the fires and under the right conditions could be highly explosive. Together, Christian Simensen and Frank Greening calculate that the aluminum at the heart of the office fires can explain the molten metal seen pouring from the towers and the reported explosions that they believe triggered the catastrophic collapse.

Molten aluminium that comes into contact with water is highly explosive.

Dr Greening also calculated that the weight of the floors above each impact zone would bring the buildings down in the event of a failure.
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August 29, 2015 12:15pm
kowtow

“Looks like the Nazi gold train has actually been found, via a deathbed confession.”

I’m going to stick my neck out. If there is a train in one of those tunnels there’ll be no big horde of gold. Probably some ammo ,arms, etc
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August 29, 2015 12:17pm
ex-golfer

@Starboard
“Maybe if I take a few out one dark Saturday night, might spark some movement within.”

OK then – go for your life.
Why not do it tonight?
Then, if you get a chance, report back to us on how you got on.
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August 29, 2015 12:18pm
mikenmild

It’d be cool if it had some lost treasure though, like the amber room:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Room
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August 29, 2015 12:22pm
wikiriwhis business

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIERrG-1oqQ&feature=em-subs_digest

Last minute changes to new laws initially drafted in response to the Pike River Mine tragedy could impact constitutional rights, the New Zealand Law Society says.

After three days of intense debate, the Health and Safety Bill could see its third and final reading as soon as tomorrow.

The bill is a 273-page omnibus one which will overhaul New Zealand’s workplace health and safety system, replacing the Health and Safety in Employment Act 1992 and the Machinery Act 1950.

But the Law Society has written to Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Michael Woodhouse, expressing concern around the last-minute insertion to the bill of provisions for a closed material procedure for court proceedings where national security is involved, saying the provisions should not have been inserted at this late stage of the legislative process.

The provisions will allow a person to be tried and convicted of a criminal offence without seeing all the information relied on by the Crown and without the right to be present – or to have their representative present – during all the proceedings.

This is inconsistent with the fundamental right to a fair trial, the Law Society said in a release yesterday.

Law Society president Chris Moore recommended the removal of the provisions from the Bill, to await the outcome of an inquiry the Law Commission is carrying out on National Security Information in Proceedings.

“The Law Commission has already identified significant issues about the matters covered by the provisions which have been inserted in the Bill, and it does not appear that these have been taken into account.”

The processes inserted by Schedule 2A directly impact on very significant constitutional rights, he said.

“Because Schedule 2A was not in the Bill when introduced, it has not been subject to the Bill of Rights vetting process and will miss public consultation and input.”

Mr Moore felt that the Government’s advisers believed there would be relatively few circumstances where secure handling of classified information would be needed as part of any health and safety investigation or legal proceedings where national security is involved.

“However, Schedule 2A has a very wide definition of ‘classified security information’. The Law Commission – which, it is important to stress, has been actively researching this very matter – has identified some major human rights issues in this matter.”

The Law Society has also advised the Minister that Schedule 2A attempts to remove the power of the courts to review a determination that certain information is ‘classified security information’.

“New Zealanders should be very worried when the powers of our courts to review any decision made by civil servants are curtailed, as could happen here.”

The Law Society said that if the provisions are to be retained in the legislation, they should be more narrowly cast “at a minimum” and it strongly urges that the outcome of the Law Commission review be awaited.

The Bill has attracted some controversy; with opposition MPs angered by the Government’s decision to dairy, beef and sheep farms as low risk, while classifying worm farms as high risk. That has since been changed.
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More young offenders will get boot camp, bus drivers will get some protection – and there’s relief for southern farmers
Point of Order
Sowell says
Hompaddock
New Zealand government urged to back ICC arrest warrants for Israeli leaders without equivocation
The Daily Blog
The transgender agenda sunk Kamala
Bob McCoskrie's McBlog
SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT
No Punches Pulled (Bob Jones)
What does “reciprocity” mean in New Zealand laws?
Croaking Cassandra
A Day of Reckoning
NZCPR
Media Link: “A View from Afar” on the US elections.
Kiwipolitico
This will not end well
Offsetting Behaviour
Top 14 Predictions for Round 10
Stats Chat
Tory Whanau may have to sell Wellington mayoralty to make ends meet
The Civilian
The Accidental Engagement
Imperator Fish
Legal Beagle: Election '23: The Special Votes
Public Address
Making this movie might have been a mistake
Liam Hehir
Why I am retiring from political blogging
Kiwi FireWalker
Angie Warren-Clark: Meet the Newbies
Dan Moskovitz

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