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Michael

I don’t get it. How could this woman’s power bill be so high? Even in the middle of winter my monthly power/gas bill combined is only around $250. And in the winter we have the gas fire on about six to eight hours a day.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/71502841/nelson-woman-faces-hefty-power-bill
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August 28, 2015 4:31pm
Tauhei Notts

I was listening to the National Socialist Radio 4 p.m. news and had to turn to another station.
The relentless public service “give us more taxpayer funds” mantra, had become nauseating.
Of course, they used the sanitised word “resources” as taxpayer funds is much too honest for those devious unscrupulous people.
There is a word in Heineman’s New Zealand dictionary that has two meanings. The first is the female genitalia; the second is an unscrupulous person. I will not use that word on this site.
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August 28, 2015 4:47pm
Grant

EAD, I cant believe you posted this:

Through my experiences, I’m about 99% sure that I’m more aware than probably anyone here on this blog about the way the world actually works (particularly in the field of Finance) …….

Do you think the rest of us have lived our entire lives in holes in the ground or something? I dare say that most of the commentators on this blog have seen a great deal of the world and as a result have as much idea, (if not more of one), than you do about how things really work.
Your comment above merely confirms my suspicion that you are on the same intellectual level as that other daft twat who comes in here regularly and refers to the rest of us as sheeple. The two of you deserve each other

Your conceit is breath taking. I also cant help wondering how thrilled anybody who ever paid for your financial advice would be to read your comments on here.
No wonder you post under a pseudonym.
Grant
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August 28, 2015 4:57pm
waikatogirl

Tauhei, I appreciate your decorum 🙂
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August 28, 2015 4:58pm
cha

I don’t get it. How could this woman’s power bill be so high?

Using 1640 kwh in a month is the problem.
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August 28, 2015 5:07pm
SPC

Grant, you may not be aware but some link economic forecasting to Shemitah cycles and debt forgiveness. Thus there are both Jews and some Christians connecting an economic collapse to bible prophecy – America/West in moral and economic decline.

Thus it is some irony that currently Brazil and Russia have a problem with inflation and the Chinese have a problem with falling growth and many Chinese (more now) are looking to get their money out of China into foreign stocks or property.
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August 28, 2015 5:14pm
Grant

Thanks SPC. I think.
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August 28, 2015 5:41pm
Reid

Do you think the rest of us have lived our entire lives in holes in the ground or something?

Grant it’s not a question of IQ or being worldly-wise, it’s a question of how one’s thinking processes operate.

Of course everyone believes their own thinking processes to be perfectly logical, but that’s not the point. A statement such as:
All creatures with four legs can fly
Pigs have four legs
Therefore pigs can fly

is perfectly logical. It doesn’t happen to be true, but it’s perfectly logical.

The issue is the premise.

Now you guys start off your thinking with the premise that “x” cannot be true, whereas people like UT, EAD and I have trained ourselves to start our thinking off with the premise that “x” may not be true, it probably isn’t, but it might be, and what if it was.

That’s the central difference between our two camps.

And when you think about it from a perspicacity perspective, which of our two positions is the more intelligent and which is most likely to yield truth?

Now one imagines that many people like mm are about to come out with something childish like “Nazis from space isn’t true Reid so we’re right and you’re wrong.” Leaving aside mm’s slimy disingenuous nature, this is what happens.

But fact is, we’re not idiots, and we don’t think what slimy people like mm and Shawn allege we think, in any way.

But that’s how the debate always develops. Which envelopes the original point in fog.
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August 28, 2015 5:52pm
Fletch

I don’t get it. How could this woman’s power bill be so high? Even in the middle of winter my monthly power/gas bill combined is only around $250. And in the winter we have the gas fire on about six to eight hours a day.

It’s the Smart meters. Everyone is complaining about them on Facebook, especially the fact that there’s often no hot water because the power company can turn your hot water cylinder off whenever they want (usually at night), so in the morning there is no hot water. Because of this it takes extra energy (and money) to reheat the cylinder from cold every time. One comment on Facebook was from a guy who rang the power company and they admitted that power usage was too much one evening recently so they were turning off cylinders to compensate.

My advice, DON’T allow them to put in a Smart Meter. You don’t have to (although folks have come home from work to find them installed when they were out during the day). $400 is not out of the ordinary for people who have them installed.
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August 28, 2015 5:52pm
nasska

From EAD at 9:02 am

….”I’m a finance expert dog eat dog not a scientist”….

You’re a total bellend. Period!
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August 28, 2015 5:55pm
mikenmild

That was a spectacular example of (il)logical thinking, Reid. Quite revealing really.
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August 28, 2015 5:56pm
nasska

Reid

….”Pigs have four legs
Therefore pigs can fly”….

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. 🙂
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August 28, 2015 5:57pm
mikenmild

And a smart meter conspiracy. The evening’s just beginning…
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August 28, 2015 5:58pm
nasska

…..” Because of this it takes extra energy (and money) to reheat the cylinder from cold every time.”….

Are you going to tell him about physics Mike or do I have to? 🙂
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August 28, 2015 6:02pm
stigie

Had to look up and see what “bellend” mean’t….for some like me that didn’t know…..

penis cock dick bell twat cunt idiot knob helmet wanker
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August 28, 2015 6:02pm
mikenmild

I’ll bow to your practical expertise, nasska. Tell him how to tie his shoes at the same time.
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August 28, 2015 6:03pm
Griff

And when you think about it from a perspicacity perspective, which of our two positions is the more intelligent and which is most likely to yield truth?
Yours yields to many false positives reid.
There are constants in any system ignore such constraints makes any thing possible .
logic means you discard any thing that doesn’t fit known constraints
like the larger the conspiracy the more likely it is to be exposed.
you often post conspiracy that is so large it is almost impossible to be true .

For instance 9/11 is a false flag the number of people needed becomes to great to support without the entire us government being involved as well as outside experts.
This means such an operation as a theory just does not work in a realty with logical constants on the size of the possible conspiracy to hide.
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August 28, 2015 6:05pm
Jack5

Interesting times in Canterbury.

The hopeless Christchurch City Council loses itself in yet another round of bureaucratic reorganisaton. For example, the chief financial officer is to become the consenting and general appliance manager. There will be rounds of comments and job reapplication. FFS!

At the same time in the Christchurch Press today, there is front page publicity for Economic Development Minister Steven Joyce about to announce a joint mayors’ campaign to settle permanently in Canterbury temporary workers brought in for the rebuild, especially the Filipinos. Just as the world is teetering on the brink of economic recession and NZ unemployment is set to grow. Old Winston Peters may pick up a few Canterbury votes from this.

Christchurch Council’s muddle and its organisation chart fixation:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/71504377/60-jobs-to-go-in-major-christchurch-city-council-restructure

The great multicultural answer to Canterbury’s economic stagnation in the wake of the dairy collapse:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/71524941/bid-to-attract-migrant-workers-to-canterbury
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August 28, 2015 6:07pm
Reid

And a smart meter conspiracy. The evening’s just beginning…

A perfect illustration of the point I was making.

You’ll note Fletch mentioned nothing but facts.

Slimy mm uses the magic keyword: “conspiwacy”

And everyone takes their cue from there.

Like I said: that’s how the debate always develops. Which envelopes the original point in fog.

But hey, just cos I predicted exactly what would happen a few minutes later, I guess that means nothing, right?

Yours yields to many false positives reid.

Griff just because you don’t understand how 911 could have been done and silence maintained, doesn’t mean it wasn’t done. You’re not the scientific bellwether of what’s possible and what’s not mate. Neither am I and neither is any one person. I’m just saying just cos you can’t work it out don’t mean shit.
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August 28, 2015 6:08pm
Nostradamus

Stigie:

penis cock dick bell twat cunt idiot knob helmet wanker

And that was today’s sex education lesson. Makes a change from gay sex practices, I guess. Or is that still to come (no pun intended)?
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August 28, 2015 6:09pm
stigie

And that certainly didn’t come from the Gay Weekly either Nostra !~
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August 28, 2015 6:12pm
mikenmild

No Reid. Fletch said it’s the smart meters and then claimed people were having them installed surreptitiously.
Nosty
Probably time for starboard and/or D4J to reappear.
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August 28, 2015 6:12pm
Reid

No Reid. Fletch said it’s the smart meters and then claimed people were having them installed surreptitiously.

No he didn’t, slimy mm.

He said:

although folks have come home from work to find them installed when they were out during the day

How the fuck do you interpret what you did, from those words?

This is precisely what I was saying above.

If you have a poisoned mind like you clearly do slimy, naturally you’ll read things in that don’t exist and naturally you’ll take the worst possible interpretation of it and naturally you won’t give a fuck whether or not it’s true if you’re challenged on it and naturally you’ll get to the point stupidboy’s at where you just outright lie about what people have said.

If you want to do that slimy then I’m frankly unsurprised, but it’s not correct and don’t expect to remain unchallenged when you do it.

Like I said: that’s how the debate always develops. Which envelopes the original point in fog.
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August 28, 2015 6:19pm
stigie

Dads working late in the shoe shop tonight Milkey, he wont be relieved till later in the evening ole chap !~
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August 28, 2015 6:19pm
Griff

You’ll note Fletch mentioned nothing but facts.

Most water heaters are connected to a ripple controller have been since the fifty’s
http://vector.co.nz/documents/101943/111843/hot+water+and+load+management.pdf/98ae2a44-0a05-4b2f-bc06-25090c390338
They may curtail power to your water heater at peak periods .
This would usually be for a couple of hours in the evening when we all are home cooking dinner and warming the house at the same time .say 5:00 pm to 8:00pm. I Know this because I once worked in an industry were we actually shut down the plant at peak winter demand as it saved us money.
A modern electric storage water heater has this thing called insulation it should stay warm for at lest a day.
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August 28, 2015 6:19pm
mikenmild

You’re reading a bit too much into that, Reid. Like the way you always put two and two together to make five.
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August 28, 2015 6:24pm
Fletch

And a smart meter conspiracy. The evening’s just beginning…

Not a conspiracy. People on the facebook group (my local area) were all complaining about high power costs and the hot water cylinder being turned off. Even our next-door neighbour who has one says they turn his cylinder off all the time. These people are not saying this for the fun of it.
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August 28, 2015 6:25pm
nasska

It was a dark & stormy night. Leaden clouds scudded across a starless sky as the unmarked & unlit PowerCo van stopped outside Number 18.

Surreptitiously the linesmen inched their way up the driveway, their padded shoes making no sound on the sodden concrete. With torches concealed they worked quickly with a skill honed by long practice. The switchboard door closed with a barely audible click & they faded back into the shadows. Furtively they snuck back to the van & after pushing it 500 metres up the road they risked the noise of the starter & the motor sprung into life.

Back to HQ they drove, basking in the glow of another job well done.

Another smart meter……another $1200 power bill ready to be written!

(To be continued)
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August 28, 2015 6:26pm
Reid

FFS. See? Complete diversion. Note everyone I know nothing about smart meters. Morons and swine have diverted GD onto this. Read my 5.52 above. But as for facts, here’s an analysis of Fletch’s comment, about which, I repeat, I know nothing and care less.

It’s the Smart meters.

Fact

Everyone is complaining about them on Facebook, especially the fact that there’s often no hot water because the power company can turn your hot water cylinder off whenever they want (usually at night), so in the morning there is no hot water.

Fact

Because of this it takes extra energy (and money) to reheat the cylinder from cold every time. One comment on Facebook was from a guy who rang the power company and they admitted that power usage was too much one evening recently so they were turning off cylinders to compensate.

Fact

My advice, DON’T allow them to put in a Smart Meter.

Opinion

You don’t have to (although folks have come home from work to find them installed when they were out during the day). $400 is not out of the ordinary for people who have them installed.

Fact.

Lots of fucking morons here on KB these days.

Fact.
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August 28, 2015 6:27pm
Griff

I’m just saying just cos you can’t work it out don’t mean shit.

And i was saying that the size and risk in such an endeavor makes it outside of possibility ,.
The yanks have proven time and again they can not even mount a simple rescue mission without crashing a chopper or some other fuckup
You think they can fake hijacking planes then fly them into a building while causing it to collapse with planed explosions .

Constants on the complexity needed to manufacture such an outcome say it is not even slightly possible in the real world.
No one would even attempt it as the chance of success would be vanishingly small as would successfully hiding the effort
So sane people do not even consider you ideas worth contemplating .
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August 28, 2015 6:30pm
mikenmild

Morons and swine have diverted GD onto this.

Oh, the humanity!
Seriously though, this is the most realistic conspiracy theory we have had on Kiwiblog for a long while.
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August 28, 2015 6:30pm
Reid

Where’s the conspiwacy slimy?

You think they can fake hijacking planes then fly them into a building while causing it to collapse with planed explosions

I’ve never explained here what I think about that event Griff so try not to pretend you think you know. Besides, since that incident the US has succeeded in killing millions and brought the world to the brink of war on multiple fronts and to economic collapse, so what do you mean the US can’t do shit. You clearly don’t know much, if that’s really what you hallucinate.
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August 28, 2015 6:32pm
mikenmild

Thought you didn’t want to talk about that. Shouldn’t you be ranting at Griff about 9/11?
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August 28, 2015 6:35pm
Reid

No I already did that dummy, and I don’t want to talk about it, but since you allege something, it’d be good if you could back up your own words. If you can. Which you can’t, of course. Chortle.

Cheap shot, I know, but since that’s all you ever do, I assume that’s what you respond to.
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August 28, 2015 6:37pm
mikenmild

Look Reid, it is quite clear from the evidence that the power companies (probably Jewish owned) have cooked up this whole smart meter scam as part of the Zionist/Masonic/Illuminati plot for world domination. I’m frankly very surprised that someone with your self-touted perspicacity can’t see it. Welcome to the sheeple.
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August 28, 2015 6:41pm
Reid

I repeat:

If you have a poisoned mind like you clearly do slimy, naturally you’ll read things in that don’t exist and naturally you’ll take the worst possible interpretation of it and naturally you won’t give a fuck whether or not it’s true if you’re challenged on it and naturally you’ll get to the point stupidboy’s at where you just outright lie about what people have said.

It’s not a question of IQ or being worldly-wise, it’s a question of how one’s thinking processes operate.

Of course everyone believes their own thinking processes to be perfectly logical, but that’s not the point. A statement such as:
All creatures with four legs can fly
Pigs have four legs
Therefore pigs can fly

is perfectly logical. It doesn’t happen to be true, but it’s perfectly logical.

The issue is the premise.

Now you guys start off your thinking with the premise that “x” cannot be true, whereas people like UT, EAD and I have trained ourselves to start our thinking off with the premise that “x” may not be true, it probably isn’t, but it might be, and what if it was.

That’s the central difference between our two camps.

And that’s all it is slimy. It’s not perspicacity, it’s simply training, just like fitness. But like Shawn, you twist and lie and allege I’m saying something else, like I’m brighter than other people, which clearly, I never said.
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August 28, 2015 6:42pm
Griff

Besides, since that incident the US has succeeded in killing millions and brought the world to the brink of war on multiple fronts and to economic collapse, so what do you mean the US can’t do shit.

Don’t get me wrong I think GW Bush was probably one of the biggest fuckwits of all time
And he is of course a member of one of the most stupid and ignorant political movements of all time the present gop
The ~~war on terror~~ grab for oil was guaranteed to result in a massive fubar
As it did
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August 28, 2015 6:44pm
Nostradamus

Reid:

I’ve never explained here what I think about that event Griff

Today is as good a day as any?

Once you’ve written down your thoughts, when this subject comes up again, you can just refer people back to this thread.
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August 28, 2015 6:45pm
mikenmild

I can hardly believe it. I find out about an actual conspiracy, probably happening right now in your own home, and Reid, of all people, finds it too outlandish to believe.
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August 28, 2015 6:47pm
Reid

It’s a big topic Nosty. You’ll need to do lots of background reading and it’s going to take you months. I’m happy to give you some starters but I’m not interested in debate until you’ve read everything.

Do you accept that or not?

Don’t get me wrong I think GW Bush was probably one of the biggest fuckwits of all time

Yes. An idiot son of an arsehole.

But how about Obama. Clinton? Bush 41?

See anything there mate, or was it just Bush 43?
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August 28, 2015 6:49pm
Manolo

Google versus the EU bureaucracy:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4f7f236e-4ccb-11e5-b558-8a9722977189.html#axzz3k5dTkZoc

Google has rejected a European Commission proposal to change the way it ranks and displays search results, setting the stage for a protracted legal battle with Brussels in one of the most sensitive competition cases of the internet era.
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August 28, 2015 6:50pm
SPC

Fletch, if you read the article linked to you would have noted that she had a smart meter installed after the high power bill.

On the general issue, apparently some of the old meters can under record power use, and so when they are replaced with new (smart meters) the power usage will go up.

One reason not to replace the old meter IF you have low power usage and think keeping power use down is easy – your old meter may be under recording.
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August 28, 2015 7:00pm
EAD

@ Fletch

Interesting that you are mentioning that people are now having their meters turned off externally and having their power prices jacked up artificially:

I warned about this earlier this year: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/02/oh_dear-10.html#comment-1477281

DPF played a party political line about “Bad Greens”/”Good National” and every single one of the sheeple fell for it and missed the wood for the trees and failed to see exactly what the State was going to do with Smart Meters. This goes back to Reid’s earlier post in that if you only see the world in a binary manner without being able to reason you will never understand why things are happening as they are

I made the following observation on Smart Meters as below and as per usual muppets came along to dismiss it with the usual “conspiracy theorist/you don’t know what you’re talking about rubbish blah blah:

“Smart” meters allow energy companies to shut down devices when there isn’t enough power to go around. Quite simply, like recycling bins, smoking rules, healthy living campaigns/taxes and political correctness, they are a measure of control.

It is simply a desperation to control the citizen instead of meet demand because lobby groups and the captive State refuse to accept that “they” are the biggest threat we have. What will they do when they’ve destroyed all functioning business? Who will pay the Socialists bar tabs then?”

PS: Good luck Reid dealing with Slimy and the wolfpack of morons and crazies who inhabit Kiwiblog at this hour (you know who I’m talking about).

PSS: @ SPC Interesting that you know about the Shemitah…. I don’t label you amongst the crazies fwiw and although I think you’re wrong (
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/02/oh_dear-10.html#comment-1477293 ) at least you put some thought into your posts
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August 28, 2015 7:01pm
Scott Chris

Like the way you always put two and two together to make five.

Err, wrong MM. 2 and 2 make the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse.
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August 28, 2015 7:01pm
Nostradamus

Reid:

I’m not interested in debate until you’ve read everything.

You’ve obviously spent more time looking into this topic than me, Reid, and I don’t have anything substantive to contribute. And, to be honest, I really can’t spare the time for your prescribed course of “months” of background reading. I appreciate your sincere offer though.

But this topic comes up so often.

So, when you said “I’ve never explained here what I think about that event Griff”, I thought that might be a good opportunity for you to set out that position – even in summary form.

Please note: wanting to understand your position isn’t the same thing as wanting to debate it. I hope you can see where I’m coming from.
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August 28, 2015 7:02pm
Keeping Stock

@ EAD – I’m currently in Shanghai, and whilst there has been a drop in the stockmarket this week, you wouldn’t know it. The market was up 2% today here today, and investors are still 43% ahead of where they were this time last year.

BTW – we drove past a car dealer yesterday selling Rolls Royce, McLaren and Maserati, and if what we’ve seen in the Shanghai streets so far is any indication, he must be doing very well 😀
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August 28, 2015 7:02pm
UglyTruth

“One officer in particular (not pictured in any of these images) closed the trunk when I tried to put my camera bag in and said our car would be towed for being illegally parked and my camera seized for containing evidence. He then reversed course and wanted to watch me delete the footage I had gotten,” Strasser posted on his Facebook, along with pictures of the incident.

http://theantimedia.org/police-order-bbc-journalists-to-delete-footage-of-virginia-shooters-car-crash
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August 28, 2015 7:14pm
Griff

Gee does anyone get the idea that ead doesn’t like some commenters..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4uivPpzCGo
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August 28, 2015 7:21pm
SPC

EAD, you seems to connect smart meters with control of supply. As if anticipating a shortage.

But with the southern smelter likely to close we don’t seem set for shortages. Power companies are reducing use of coal/gas fired stations as if anticipating this.

There is still population increase – balanced by better insulated homes.
Arrival of batteries for home energy storage (encouraging more solar units) – balanced by supply demand for battery powered cars
The historic risk of wind power supply being uneven may be superseded by network battery storage.

There is however still the risk of dry years, all the greater if the smelter closes and more of the national supply to the North Island comes from the southern lakes.
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August 28, 2015 7:24pm
UglyTruth

My advice, DON’T allow them to put in a Smart Meter.

+1

WiFi operates like microwaves, it transfers energy to water efficiently, and we’re roughly 50% water. Having a source that you can’t turn off in your home is a bad idea.
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August 28, 2015 7:24pm
mikenmild

EAD
I don’t think you should call me ‘Slimy’ when I am agreeing with you about the smart meter conspiracy.
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August 28, 2015 7:28pm
SPC

Keeping Stock, a 100% gain then a 50% crash is till good for those who were in the market a year or more. But not so good for those who bought in on the bull market only to be hit with the correction.
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August 28, 2015 7:28pm
nasska

For the completely moronic help is at hand:

….”Since the 1950s, New Zealand has had a system of load management based on ripple control, allowing the electricity supply for domestic and commercial water storage heaters to be switched off and on, as well as allowing remote control of nightstore heaters and street lights”…..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_management

So dear fruitloops….the evil state owned power suppliers have been able to reach into your private spaces & shut off your water heating for about the last 60 years.

What a modern smart meter does as well, is send a reading via the cellphone network, of the amount of power you have used in the past 24 hours.

Tin foil hats can be taken off, ironed & stored in a handy spot in readiness for the next emergency. 🙂
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August 28, 2015 7:30pm
mikenmild

No, no nasska. Fletch and EAD are on to something about these smart meters, and Ugly is onboard too. Only Reid is holding on to the lies propagated by the Zionists.
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August 28, 2015 7:33pm
nasska

You mean that the Reserve Banks have infiltrated Meridian Energy & Genesis too Mike?

And to think that I had EAD written off as a crackpot all this time. 🙂
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August 28, 2015 7:41pm
mikenmild

He’s only wrong about everything else…
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August 28, 2015 7:43pm
Griff

WiFi operates like microwaves, it transfers energy to water efficiently, and we’re roughly 50% water. Having a source that you can’t turn off in your home is a bad idea.

shit oh dear that is so whacked I can not even comprehend the stupidity it takes to come out with such wildly inaccurate garbage .

Ever heard the saying just smart enough not to eat your self ?
ugly be very careful when you get hungry.
wi fi is about 100mw at the antenna.
Your microwave is about 1000w
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August 28, 2015 7:54pm
mikenmild

Fractal wrongness, Griff.

Perhaps some more bad poetry would be in order?
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August 28, 2015 7:55pm
mikenmild

Ugly’s scared of wi-fi
Spreading through his body
Even though Griff said
He sounded like a Noddy
Ugly’s undeterred
He’ll find another theory
Conspiracy or no
I’ll laugh until I’m teary
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August 28, 2015 7:59pm
nasska

According to the Today’s Schools curriculum children from the age of five will be expected to learn and recite poetry.

We always read poetry at my school anyway. It’s just that most of it was written on the back of the shithouse doors.
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August 28, 2015 8:05pm
mikenmild

nasska came to school today
riding on his pony
snuck into the toilet block
to find that he was bony
found cricko was already there
waiting for his fancy
nasska ran away and screamed
“no, I’m not a nancy!”
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August 28, 2015 8:09pm
Griff

Rational wiki is so good
and it has goats.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fractal_wrongness
List of fractally wrong worldviews

The following is a list of worldviews that are fractally wrong (and a brief example of why). Note that this is not meant to be exhaustive, and probably never will be, as any fallacious argument can be expanded into a fractally wrong worldview:

Alternative medicine (postulating generally nonsensical mechanisms by which it claims to achieve its purported effects)
The anti-vaccination movement (believing Andrew Wakefield and Jenny McCarthy over easily discernible historical facts and the entire world of medicine which gets derided as Big Pharma)
Astrology (how exactly are the stars affecting/reflecting your love life or financial situation?)
Christian fundamentalism (thinking that Noah’s Ark is a plausible plot device among many other things)
Climate change denial (believing that a global “Big Climate” conspiracy is trying to convince the world to waste money in a scheme to get more and bigger research grants, apparently…)
Almost all conspiracy theories (David Icke…)
The Freeman on the land and sovereign citizen movements (the legal equivalent of “Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges!”[wp])
Homeopathy (because a belief sympathetic magic and the idea that diluting something makes its effects more powerful(!) just makes so much sense in 21st century medicine…)
Islamic terrorism (all the same nonsense as Christian fundamentalism, just with a different religion, and added violence)
Most New Age woo (general nonsensical incoherence)
Racialism (still clinging to debunked pseudoscience decades out of date)
Scientology (a religion based on sci-fi novels even worse than Ayn Rand’s books and a “theology” so nonsensical it could have been the plot of an Ed Wood[wp] film)
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August 28, 2015 8:10pm
Brigitte

Actually, it’s John Key’s fault, as usual. Seems he sent a txt to the poor ladies smart meter (that hadn’t been installed yet) and upped the power bill. That was, of course, after he had gotten poor Cambo fired from TV3 which is old news. And worse, he still hasn’t sold those Bank of America shares! And those WiFi microwaves have melted the chocolate bar in my pocket as well. Maybe just pour myself another glass and get the popcorn out.
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August 28, 2015 8:13pm
nasska

You’ve been warned to stay away from Trueblue & The Standard Brigitte. 🙂
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August 28, 2015 8:15pm
cricko

So, my admiriati, mikenmild and nostrowhatever have taken the time today to construct poems about me.

Thing is, neither of them seems able to grasp the point, ever.

One says that I am a homophobic because I published that the fact that 1 in 12 homo males in NZ is HIV positive and
that 1 in 20 is riddled with full blown AIDS and that there is currently an epidemic of syphillis should be publicised widely
in order that young gay males in Christchurch were aware of the risks in bending over. Their view seems to be…..
Not PC, keep that quiet.

The other, mikenmild, lacks any sense of humour at all, lacks the ability to recognise a joke, calls me a cat killer.

nostroWTF is unable to get my moniker right and railes against me because i wouldn’t engage with him (see Friday nite GD) Poor precious.

Check it out. Poor nostranuthin.
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August 28, 2015 8:43pm
stigie

( Hic )
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August 28, 2015 8:45pm
cricko

hey stigie,
how come every time I pull your string, you jump ?

When did anyone take the time and effort to compose a poem about you stigie ?
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August 28, 2015 8:51pm
wellygirl

KS @ 7.02pm

Hope you are enjoying Shanghai! 🙂

It is similar in Beijing about the cars, there are plenty of luxury cars on the road, the dealers must be doing very well, though in saying that, there has apparently been a slowdown in the smartphone market.
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August 28, 2015 8:51pm
stigie

Cos im ya puppet Beryl !~
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August 28, 2015 8:52pm
Nostradamus

Cricko:

cricko (1,032 comments) says:
August 28th, 2015 at 8:43 pm
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nostroWTF is unable to get my moniker right

Oh really. What’s your moniker then – “cricko” with a lower-case “c”?

Of course, neither “nostroWTF” nor “nostranuthin” is my moniker, but I’m sure the irony is completely lost on you.

And I won’t bother engaging with you anymore, because you don’t have the brain capacity – other than to repeat the same pointless questions over and over.

*Hic!*
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August 28, 2015 8:53pm
Griff

but cricko beryl babe.
The number of young gay males from chch reading kb is close to zero .
Most here are wildly read and educated political animals to some degree so even if there are young gay males they will be reasonably informed of the risks they take .
We dont need information about homosexual practice as it really is not a concern of ours.
Yet a few seem to be totally obsessed with anal intrusion for sexual pleasure .
I think they are the ones who should go do it rather than telling us endless about it the possible effects, the methods, how to get it etc etc etc .
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August 28, 2015 9:00pm
UglyTruth

wi fi is about 100mw at the antenna.
Your microwave is about 1000w

Sustained low level exposure is more hazardous the brief intense exposure because natural healing mechanisms kick in for high exposure. Microwaves have been used as weapons at low levels.

According to Barrie Trower microwaves can cause cot deaths.

https://youtu.be/z99_SzoXZdY
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August 28, 2015 9:01pm
cricko

Good point nasska

Remember when you had to put a penny into the slot to use the dunny.

Used to be on the back of many a dunny door.

“Here I sit, broken hearted, paid a penny and only farted.”
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August 28, 2015 9:01pm
cricko

Jeez,

nostro,effall @ 8.53

Good……………..

And Griff. Who in your mind benefits from keeping young gay males ignorant from knowing the risks they face ?

Well, seems we can count you in as one…..right ?
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August 28, 2015 9:09pm
stigie

“And Griff, who benefits from keeping young gay males from knowing the risks they face” ?

The gay community can count on you Beryl !~
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August 28, 2015 9:13pm
Nostradamus

Is it just a coincidence that “Cricko” has all four of the letters in “cock”?

A bit of self-projection?
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August 28, 2015 9:17pm
Griff

who benefits from keeping young gay males from knowing the risks they face ?
Old drunken sots who pay them for bum sex.
so shhhhs beryl if you want it again from your local rent boy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98EWBKCHsd4&index=1&list=RD98EWBKCHsd4
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August 28, 2015 9:17pm
cricko

Now you drongs are just making fools of yourselves.

Griff in particular. Pull his string, see him jump.
Stop digging, people will read this and feel sorry for you.

Silly billies.

Regardless, good luck to you and G’nite to your families.
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August 28, 2015 9:25pm
cha

Off to France.
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A French woman has won a disability grant after telling a court she suffers from an allergy to electromagnetic radiation from gadgets.

Marine Richard, 39, was told she may claim €800 (£580) per month for three years as a result.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34075146
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August 28, 2015 10:02pm
Nookin

As Cricko’ foes waxed poetical
Taking him to task
Cricko mused his hypothetical
Taking it up the Khyber

Cricko took this slight to heart
His foes he vowed to munt
Letting loose a watery fart
He’s really such a silly boy

Civil service hours allow
The mind to stray a bit
So Milky pulled his biro out
And penned a load of cobblers.

Nosty has a lengthy pseud
One Cricko sought to mock
His venom very much exudes
The shame of his miniscule something or other
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August 28, 2015 10:03pm
mikenmild

That’s really quite good, cricko. Better class of wine tonight? Happy National Poetry Day.
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August 28, 2015 10:24pm
Manolo

Possibly the last days of Europe as we know it: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/migrant-tragedies-land-sea-claim-hundreds-lives-095433930.html

Austria said on Friday 71 refugees including a baby girl were found dead in an abandoned freezer truck, while Libya recovered the bodies of 82 migrants washed ashore after their overcrowded boat sank on its way to Europe and scores more were feared dead.

The U.N. refugee agency said the number of refugees and migrants crossing the Mediterranean to reach Europe had passed 300,000 this year, up from 219,000 in the whole of 2014.
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August 29, 2015 7:40am
Tauhei Notts

Mikenmild at 8.09.
Best poetry seen on this site.
The man deserves a top quality single malt.
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August 29, 2015 7:46am
Manolo

It is already in the bag: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-08-28/clinton-camp-saying-it-already-secured-one-fifth-the-delegates-needed-for-nomination

At the Democratic National Committee meeting in Minneapolis, where Clinton spoke on Friday, senior Clinton campaign officials are claiming that she has already secured one-fifth of the pledges needed to win the Democratic presidential nomination. They come from current and former elected officials, committee officeholders, and other party dignitaries.
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August 29, 2015 7:46am
Manolo

The man deserves a top quality single malt.

Nothing beats Glenlivet 18y.o. 🙂
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