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Ashley Schaeffer

How is Raetihi supposed to be pronounced (without causing grave offence)? Rye-tee-hee?
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August 20, 2015 1:49pm
Black with a Vengeance

MEH goes off on one after reporter writes story on how they shouldn’t write stories about her anymore…

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/71293651/millie-elderholmes-lashes-out-at-columnist

oh the fucking ironing!!!
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August 20, 2015 1:56pm
Jack5

Re Kowtow at 1.41 on the missing “r”.

It stands out when the occasional TV reporter comes from Southland or Otago and you hear the full-tongued “r”.

A good test is whether someone calls the metal a weakish “ion” or a full-blooded “ir-r-ron”.

I prefer the latter, and so do many languages, as varied as Spanish and R-r-russian and Scots English.
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August 20, 2015 2:00pm
starboard

Ive always , and will continue to call it Ra-ta-he. Same with Taupo…T-our-po and Wanganui as Wang-a nui
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August 20, 2015 2:02pm
Ashley Schaeffer

I seem to be physically incapable of rolling my “r”s (it comes out more like a “d” sound) so I’m always going to be on a hiding to nothing when trying to pronounce Maori and many other languages. Does my disability trump any offence taken?
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August 20, 2015 2:06pm
Komata

Ashley
Re: ‘ Does my disability trump any offence taken’

No, ‘fraid not old chap – you’re just another ‘oppressive white foreigner’ like every other European in this country, and whether you’re born here or not, has absolutely no relevance at all; You’re ‘Pakeha’ and therefore to blame for absolutely everything, and what you can’t be blamed for (rare though that is) , the Indians and Asians are lumped with.

Welcome to our world.. 🙂
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August 20, 2015 2:20pm
Griff

Researchers Simulate Meteorite Impact on an Ancient Ocean Conditions and Found It Creates Building Blocks of DNA
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/18/researchers-simulate-meteorite-impact-on-an-ancient-ocean-conditions-and-found-it-creates-building-blocks-of-dna/
The idea that a meteorite struck earth and sparked life isn’t a new theory in the scientific world, but Japanese researchers actually created a simulation that showed how the building blocks of DNA could form from such an impact.
A drawing showing a meteorite impact in Earth’s early oceans. Researchers conducted an experiment to simulate this situation and found they could create the building blocks for DNA out of inorganic materials. (Image source: Tohoku University)

A drawing showing a meteorite impact in Earth’s early oceans. Researchers conducted an experiment to simulate this situation and found they could create the building blocks for DNA out of inorganic materials. (Image source: Tohoku University)

Researchers with Tohoku University, National Institute for Materials Science and Hiroshima University acknowledge that the more popular hypothesis is that the amino acids and nucleobases needed to start life on earth arrived intact via “extraterrestrial delivery” because of “difficulties associated with the production of these organics from terrestrial carbon and nitrogen sources under plausible prebiotic conditions,” the authors wrote in the the study published in the journal Earth and Planetary Science Letters.
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August 20, 2015 2:56pm
wikiriwhis business

BOMBSHELL! Federal Reserve Admits It’s Monetary Policy Has Failed.

No evidence QE boosted economy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGVXz-ecJ_A&feature=share
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August 20, 2015 3:01pm
wikiriwhis business

Now here’s statement on where so much fault lies

This whole shortage was created by employers who didnt want to pay for training. Now they are the short sighted ones who are suffering.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11419455&ref=NZH_FBpage
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August 20, 2015 3:09pm
wikiriwhis business

Stalling welfare rolls confirm slowing NZ economy

Welfare rolls have increased for the first time in a June quarter since 2010, confirming other signs of that New Zealand’s economic growth is slowing.

Benefit numbers released today by the Ministry of Social Development show a continued improvement in Auckland, where there are now 5.4 per cent fewer beneficiaries than a year ago. Numbers also improved in the latest quarter in the Bay of Plenty and marginally in Northland.

But seasonal winter increases in unemployment combined with a sharp fall in farming confidence to push total benefit numbers up in the June quarter in all other regions for the first time in five years.

Numbers are still lower than a year ago in 10 of the country’s 15 regions, and by 2.8 per cent nationally, to the lowest national June tally since June 2008 before the global financial crisis hit.

Stalling welfare rolls confirm slowing NZ economy

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Welfare rolls have increased for the first time in a June quarter since 2010. File photo Welfare rolls have increased for the first time in a June quarter since 2010. File photo

Welfare rolls have increased for the first time in a June quarter since 2010, confirming other signs of that New Zealand’s economic growth is slowing.

Benefit numbers released today by the Ministry of Social Development show a continued improvement in Auckland, where there are now 5.4 per cent fewer beneficiaries than a year ago. Numbers also improved in the latest quarter in the Bay of Plenty and marginally in Northland.

But seasonal winter increases in unemployment combined with a sharp fall in farming confidence to push total benefit numbers up in the June quarter in all other regions for the first time in five years.

Numbers are still lower than a year ago in 10 of the country’s 15 regions, and by 2.8 per cent nationally, to the lowest national June tally since June 2008 before the global financial crisis hit.

Social Development Minister Anne Tolley said the year-on-year comparison gave a truer picture of trends because the quarterly data were affected by seasonal influences.

“As a consequence benefit numbers have increased by 0.4 per cent, or 1089, in the last quarter as is expected with the end of seasonal work,” she said.

But Council of Trade Unions economist Dr Bill Rosenberg said the stalling benefit numbers confirmed other signs that job growth was slowing.

“We are seeing some job losses. It’s hard to say there is a trend yet, but certainly there is a lot of concern that the growth in the economy is slowing,” he said.

The data comes one day after the country’s biggest company Fonterra said it would cut 523 jobs in the wake of a 64 per cent plunge in global dairy prices since April 2013.

Labour’s social development spokeswoman Carmel Sepuloni said she had been pushing Ms Tolley to release how many benefits had been cancelled during the quarter, which would better demonstrate how many people were actually finding work.

“Benefit reductions are not resulting in better employment outcomes. And the information we have been asking for has been held back.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11482709
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August 20, 2015 3:12pm
kowtow

“Pak’n Save is a multicultural workplace employing some 34 different nationalities. It is sensitive to cultural and language issues and proactively takes steps to ensure that all employees feel comfortable, welcome and supported in the workplace,” the ERA said in its determination.

Morning greeting causes shit storm.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11500111
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August 20, 2015 3:14pm
wikiriwhis business

Amazon: Devastating expose accuses internet retailer of oppressive and callous attitude to staff

Working four days in a row without sleep; a woman with breast cancer being put on “performance-improvement plans” together with another who had just had a stillborn child; staff routinely bursting into tears; continual monitoring; workers encouraged to turn on each other to keep their jobs.

Life at Amazon sounds bleak, according to a devastating, 5,900-word expose by The New York Times.

The global internet retailer founded by billionaire Jeff Bezos, which paid just £11.9m in tax in Britain last year despite UK sales of £5.3bn, has previously been accused of treating warehouse staff in the UK “like cattle” as they are driven to work harder.

However, it’s claimed that their counterparts in the US have faced even tougher conditions. Staff in a Pennsylvania warehouse allegedly worked in temperatures in the high 30s Celsius – as ambulances waited outside to take them away when they collapsed – and air conditioning was only fitted after newspaper reports.

Former office staff at the company’s headquarters in Seattle also spoke of working 80-hour weeks, getting emails from the office while on holiday or late at night, oppressive scrutiny of performance, and callous disregard for personal crises.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/amazon-devastating-expose-accuses-internet-retailer-of-oppressive-and-callous-attitude-to-staff-10458159.html
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August 20, 2015 3:15pm
Nostradamus

Word of the day: Wiki-spam.
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August 20, 2015 3:17pm
wikiriwhis business

Amazon Chief Says Employees Lacking Empathy Will Be Instantly Purged

Saying that he was “horrified” by a New York Times article recounting callous behavior on the part of Amazon executives, company founder Jeff Bezos warned today that any employees found lacking in empathy would be instantly purged.

In an e-mail to all Amazon employees issued late Sunday evening, Bezos said that the company would begin grading its workers on empathy, and that the ten per cent found to be least empathic would be “immediately culled from the herd.”

To achieve this goal, Amazon said that it would introduce a new internal reporting system called EmpathyTrack, which will enable employees to secretly report on their colleagues’ lack of humanity.

The system will allow Amazon employees to grade their co-workers on a scale from a hundred (nicest) to zero (pure evil), resulting in empathy-based data that will be transmitted directly to Bezos.

Then, through a new program called Next Day Purging, any employee found lacking in empathy will be removed from the company within twenty-four hours of Bezos’s termination order.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/amazon-chief-says-employees-lacking-empathy-will-be-instantly-purged

a witch hunt employees can use to persecute and obviously designed for this purpose.

Nothing short of employer terrorism
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August 20, 2015 3:18pm
stephieboy

wiki, can you confirm whiter Gerry Manneaino is a Gold Bugger , into end of times economic global collapse and the Jewish bankers are are all behind the market and currency manipulation ?

https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2015/08/17/gregory-mannarino-extreme-debt-will-cause-a-global-meltdown-and-chinas-currency-devaluation/
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August 20, 2015 3:19pm
wikiriwhis business

“Word of the day: Wiki-spam.”

I still got it
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August 20, 2015 3:19pm
Griff

Labour takes 5 point hit in Roy Morgan poll after Chinese buyers gambit
http://www.sharechat.co.nz/article/4b9b7535/labour-takes-5-point-hit-in-roy-morgan-poll-after-chinese-buyers-gambit.html
The result, if translated to an election result, would give National a clear majority, claiming 52.5 percent of the vote, including its current supporters the Maori (1.5 percent), United Future (holding one electorate seat) and Act (0.5 percent) parties, against 46 percent for Labour, the Greens and NZ First, the last of which cannot be assumed to be a guaranteed ally of the centre-left parties.

The Conservative Party registered no support, down from 1.5 percent, after a torrid month in which the party leader and founder, Colin Craig, was ejected by his party’s board, most of whom then resigned.
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August 20, 2015 3:19pm
Inandout

Ashley Schaeffer: Those of us familiar with quality fountain pens would never mispronounce your surname, supposing it is the same sound as sheaffer.
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August 20, 2015 3:40pm
AgentBallSack

I lived in the South Island for over 10 years, it took me about a year after leaving to revert to talking like a North Islander. At first the rolled R sounds weird then you slowly start emulating it. After a few years it just happens naturally. It wasnt until I moved back that I realised how much I did it.
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August 20, 2015 4:09pm
kowtow

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/281933/fletcher-construction-ceo-sorry-for-offending-irish

If the builders were from Ireland ,why the apology. If they weren’t why did he say it?
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August 20, 2015 4:40pm
kowtow

The rolled r is not universal South island. It’s a Southland thing and perhaps south otago.

Much more preferable than the now fashionable and affected clipped maori style.
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August 20, 2015 4:43pm
Reid

a witch hunt employees can use to persecute and obviously designed for this purpose.

Nothing short of employer terrorism

Nah not really, provided the data is objective and widely gathered. If 5 people say something who cares, if 50 do then look into it.

And about time arsehole managers got a newsflash their psychopathy isn’t acceptable.

Everyone’s met them, they should be culled from the workplace.

Of course Bezo should be subject to the same rule.

What should happen is everyone’s scores should be available to everyone in real time. That way, a misperception will get corrected and anomalies where arseholes escape notice will also get picked up.
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August 20, 2015 4:47pm
Inandout

Fletchers employ Irish builders in ChCh, so hopefully they aren’t like these –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKaQLYPf5hM
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August 20, 2015 4:49pm
Griff

An Australian man who brought “horrendous” images of mutilated female bodies and child-abuse material into New Zealand has been jailed for more than two years.

IT consultant Thomas Arpad Meyer, 56, flew into the country in April expecting to do a week of contract work but instead he was stopped by Customs who found more than 4000 offensive images on his laptop and USB drives.

Some of those files were classified in the highest possible category of offending of its kind and he was charged with eight counts of importing an objectionable publication.

The court heard there were pictures of women – alive and dead – being burned, mutilated, tortured, bound and raped; as well as photos of children also being sexually abused.

Meyer’s lawyer Shardae Oliver argued for a reduction in her client’s sentence because of his “genuine remorse”, even though he had previous similar convictions in Australia and had undertaken therapy.

That was contested by Customs prosecutor Jasmin Priest who said he minimised his offending by comparing himself to other kinds of sex offenders.

“The images that form the basismeyer20 of the charges are horrendous,” she said.

The kicker

“He said it happened because he was upset with God”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11500236
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August 20, 2015 5:00pm
UglyTruth

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/08/18/judge_napolitano_lets_say_clinton_is_indicted_for_conspiracy_to_violate_espionage_laws.html

JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: We know that at least one [of Hillary Clinton’s emails] contains Top Secret classified materials… This particular email, which was satellite photos of a middle eastern country and intercepts of foreign agents…

Let’s just hypothetically say that Mrs. Clinton and her associates are indicted for conspiracy to violate the espionage laws of the U.S. by knowingly letting secrets get out, and Mrs. Clinton says, “well it didn’t say classified on it…”
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August 20, 2015 5:02pm
thedavincimode

Ugly

You’re needed on the dolphin thread – get your arse over there.
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August 20, 2015 5:24pm
stigie

They seem to be in a bit of a huff over at the Stranded with the latest Roy Morgan poll.

They are saying this ones a rogue poll but last months seems to be spot on…..Funny that, they dont like it up em !~
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August 20, 2015 5:32pm
Griff

Stigie
Haven’t heard a single peep from the numerous conservonutters who voted conservative.
You would think they would be here in droves.
They were before the election.
Maybe they are just a little embarrassed about backing the worst loser party ever in nz.
Even Christian heritage had more support after the kiddy fiddly episode
Not even a single vote of support for the conservatives from almost a thousand polled.
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August 20, 2015 5:40pm
stigie

I know i should wash my mouth out Griff but it would be interesting to have Reddy back just to abuse you on your 5.40 comment ole chap !~
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August 20, 2015 5:49pm
SPC

So the Conservatives are polling the same as a party in parliament, that is reason for at least one Conservative to be confident – all they need is 500 members and a cup of tea to be in next time.
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August 20, 2015 5:50pm
Lance

@AgentBallSack
I grew up in Southland.
When I first moved to Wellington people used to ask me what part of the USA I came from…… WTF?
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August 20, 2015 5:54pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yk8jfm3oqj506bp/Conservative%20progress.png?dl=0
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August 20, 2015 5:56pm
stigie

Dear ya to put that up on Truepoo Nasska ?
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August 20, 2015 6:01pm
Griff

You do it stigie
I wouldn’t post there after what he done to spawn.
stalking is sicko
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August 20, 2015 6:09pm
nasska

Griff

You’ve got to feel some compassion for the home grown conservonutters. This time last year they were cock a hoop with prophesies of ten seats in the House, giving National a backbone, reintroducing child bashing & stamping out sex.

Today they look around & all that’s on view are a victorious National Party while the conservative dreams of moral renaissance fade & crumble to dust like dog shit on a lawn in summer.

The life of a control freak ain’t a happy one. 🙂

Edit. What’s the Great Conservative done to Shawn?
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August 20, 2015 6:11pm
starboard

I am absolutely gobsmacked. The scum associates of dolphy kohu have been granted bail !

This country is a basket case , a complete joke run by incompetent assholes.
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August 20, 2015 6:19pm
SGA

nasska at 6:11 pm

What’s the Great Conservative done to Shawn?

He’s on sabbatical from KB learning to do practical, money-earning things (welding or suchlike) so that he and his missus can have a decent holiday overseas sometime soon. That’s from memory, any inaccuracies unintentional.
His final comments sounded as though the “goodbye” might be more permanent.
Add: Sorry – I think I might have misinterpreted what Great C was 🙁
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August 20, 2015 6:20pm
Griff

I dont know if he followed though but he did threaten to email spawns church etc
The fact he new such details means he had looked into shawns personal life

Redbaiter (11,656 comments) says:
January 30th, 2015 at 3:18 pm

Yep, you’ll hear it loser. Just because you backed off on your stalking campaign because it rightly lead to many complaints, it doesn’t mean you get a free pass from me. If you write anything I disagree with I will say so.

You’re lucky I didn’t send some of the examples of spittle flecked hate you wrote here to Reverend Brenda Bonnet. I still might.
Redbaiter (11,656 comments) says:
December 8th, 2014 at 12:28 pm
Fourth time you have broken your word. No honour. No truth. No shame. No pride. Just a weak liar and shameless hypocrite. Nothing you say here has any worth to it.

Oh, thanks for the permission. The examples are on their way. Copied to every other staff member.
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August 20, 2015 6:20pm
Reid

A tour de force on all things bollocks in this PC world of ours.

http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2015/08/09/520773-a-cold-summer-for-europe-israel-shamir/

Samples:

In Douglas Adams’ words, “men were real men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.” Now they all promote women to the boards of multinationals… and argue who is better for the gays…

…In the UK, Tony Blair destroyed Labour. He turned the old party of workers and miners into Tory Lite. Blair supported every American military campaign and earned the honourable title of the British Poodle… [Funny ain’t it how Hulun. Blair’s acolyte, also destroyed NZ Labour and just like its UK counterpart, it’s still struggling to recover. Coincidence? Of course it is.]

…The main problem of Europe is American occupation. This is the source of trouble. In 1945, the continent was shared between the US and the USSR. In 1991, the Russians moved out, but no freedom came: the Americans moved in, occupying the whole of Europe from Narva in Estonia to Oeiras in Portugal, from Souda Bay on Crete to Ørland in Norway. Besides military hardware, they enforced their political agenda. Their yoke lies heavy upon Europe’s grey stones. The steps they force the European leaders to take hurt the continent. The leaders make wrong decisions, and the people pay for them.

Europe had a great buyer for its output. Russia bought its machinery and cheeses, abundant wine and cars, and delivered cheap gas and oil. The US stopped this profitable trade in its tracks. Now the Europeans dump their apples and cheese, spend more on military purchases and import expensive American gas.

Europe had a maverick friend over the sea, a retired colonel Kaddafi.

He sold cheap oil, imported European goods for his prosperous small population, and kept millions of Africans occupied in Libya.

Under American guidance, NATO bombed Libya, the colonel was sodomized by a gun barrel and lynched, his country destroyed. Africans went to Europe on every small boat they could find.

Europe had a friend in Damascus, an ex-eye doctor from London. He bought European goods, kept his country ship-shape, visited Paris.

Under American guidance, this gentle man was called a ‘génocidaire’; weapons were delivered to his enemies, the fanatic Muslim takfiris. His country was devastated, and millions of Syrian refugees escaped to Europe.

They followed the Iraqis, whose country was laid low by the US invasion of 2003. The most advanced country of the Middle East, with free education and free medical care, with best engineers and a strong army, was turned into a nest of sectarian strife, while millions of Iraqis went to Europe.

The Afghanis, Palestinians, Arabs, Africans pour into Europe from their countries smashed by the iron fist of the US Armed Forces.

Once the EU was a union of successor states of Charlemagne’s empire, and perhaps, a conceivable idea. But the US took control over Brussels, and forced them to accept East European states, all led by anti-communist devotees of America. Within the EU, the developed countries of the old union devoured the less developed outsiders.

Consider Sweden. This is coldest summer for many years in Sweden. July was as cool as April, but the cold did not stop the inflow of refugees.

Gypsie beggars1In front of every supermarket, of every underground and rail station of Sweden, from Kiruna to Lund, sits a gypsy beggar with a plastic cup for alms in his or her hand.

They came from Romania and Hungary, fellow EU states, with quite a low standard of living, but within the Schengen Zone, so they do not need a visa.

They do not come by their volition, they were sent by their barons who build huge castles and furnish them in the best garish gypsy style on the levy the beggars pay them.

After three months on the Swedish pavements, they go home to be replaced by another bunch of beggars.

The Swedish police does not interfere with these beggars.

They say there is no law to stop gypsies. They are afraid to be condemned for race profiling if they will. The gypsies are colourful; there are men and women, old and middle age, no more than two at every place.

In addition to refugees and immigrants delivered to Sweden by the US wars and US-dictated enlargement of the EU, Sweden and other West European countries are undermined by the US-led gender rearrangement of life.

There are few children; schools are being closed. Gays have their fullest rights; women have priority in taking jobs. Boys have fewer opportunities: from state TV to barbershops, the jobs are taken by women. The priests of the Swedish church are mainly females; the state appointed bishops known for their support for female priesthood. Yet even though men have clearly lost the war, the victory of women wilts under examination.

Once upon a time women had a choice: they could join the business world or stay at home with the kids. Once upon a time women could raise a family without guilt. Once upon a time women could enjoy being flirted with. Not any more. The unmanning of man was quickly followed by the un-womaning of woman.

There is an understanding between the holders of power that feminised men are easier to control – this is a reason why they encourage homosexuality. Unmanning men is a linchpin in the reprogramming of mankind into an obedient herd, because strong men are unpredictable. Strong men are prone to rebellion, ready for sacrifice and primed for action. It is no coincidence that the enemies of Empire are all masculine males, be they Qaddafi, Castro, Chavez, Lukashenko, Putin… It appears the men have been targeted for elimination; the working ants need no sex.

etc…
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August 20, 2015 6:22pm
nasska

I remember that now Griff…..it was pretty creepy. I’ve sparred with Baity for a fair while but I never thought he’d sink that low just to win an argument on a blog.

Maybe we went too far & pushed him over the edge. 🙂
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August 20, 2015 6:32pm
SPC

Tour de farce, its a rehash of the Two Ronnies plot-line to a sketch – about the men of Wales the last free men under Thatcher.
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August 20, 2015 6:34pm
Griff

Maybe we went too far & pushed him over the edge.

Don’t think so
He’s been off the edge and in free fall for almost a decade I know of .

Redblurt just couldn’t cope when the shit he has been chucking for years was returned with interested by people just as forthright as him.
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August 20, 2015 6:40pm
thedavincimode

No honour. No truth. No shame. No pride. Just a weak liar and shameless hypocrite. Nothing you say here has any worth to it.

Ya gotta luv ‘im. No wonder he was to be wheeled in off the lawn at the rest home. Could hardly walk with both feet stuffed in his mouth.
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August 20, 2015 6:43pm
Inandout

starboard: The Police must drop their heads in despair at some of these idiotic decisions. What if these on the loose scum decide to attack a complete stranger, and that person came from an MPs family? There are 121 of the useless bastards, so….
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August 20, 2015 6:46pm
Reid

Redblurt just couldn’t cope when the shit he has been chucking for years was returned with interested by people just as forthright as him.

No I think he just got bored with saying old thing to the same old morons and getting the same old miscomprehension back Griff.

I don’t know the guy but that was my reading.

And who can blame him.

That’s exactly what happens.
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August 20, 2015 6:47pm
mikenmild

I think Reddy genuinely struggled with the idea that most people considered him and his ideas to be completely gaga. He was vulnerable to mockery, too, which of course just made it worse for him.
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August 20, 2015 6:51pm
nasska

…..”No I think he just got bored with saying old thing to the same old morons and getting the same old miscomprehension back “…..

More like with four strikes against his name the writing was on the wall……he was getting into Kea territory.

The last & only time I checked out Trueblue he was banging on about the same old crap, felating EAD & concentrating on changing the world via Twitter.

Little has changed.
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August 20, 2015 6:53pm
big bruv

mikenmild

Bedwetter let himself down on may fronts, the whole birther thing being just one of them. The real problem however was that the man tells lies. I almost felt sorry for the guy the way he was constantly exposed as a man who did not deal in the truth.

The guy is a fuckwit, he longs for an authoritarian government yet pretends to be somebody who wants freedom. I do not miss him and this blog is a far better place without him.
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August 20, 2015 6:59pm
Steve (North Shore)

Missed posts from the Bright one, is she in jail?
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August 20, 2015 7:01pm
wikiriwhis business

Toxic WINZ culture the real crime – AAAP

Rising numbers of assaults on Work & Income staff are proof that the Government’s approach to welfare is fatally flawed.

“Instead of blaming beneficiaries for ‘copycat’ assaults as Associate Social Development Minister Jo Goodhew does, National should be looking at the real reasons more than 550 people are now trespassed from Work & Income offices,” says Auckland Action Against Poverty spokesperson Sue Bradford.

“If Ms Goodhew really believes what she is saying, she is demonstrating a disturbing ignorance about what’s really happening inside her own department.

“National’s welfare reforms have thrown due process and fair procedure out the window, creating a deliberately toxic environment aimed at keeping as many people out of the benefit system as possible.

“All too often Work & Income staff refuse to allow any challenge to their decisions, even when everyone has a legal right to a review of any decision made about their situation.

“When someone is denied a food grant or benefit for no good reason, their own and their family’s wellbeing are under immediate threat.

“When they are then refused any right of appeal, frustration can boil over.

“The case manager immediately calls in security and yet another person may be trespassed.

“At the moment Auckland Action Against Poverty has five appeals with the Social Security Appeal Authority and two at review involving requests for food grants that have been denied, involving very low sums, sometimes for very large families.

“When people are hungry and desperate to feed themselves and their children they easily become distressed and angry.

“Instead of employing more security guards and trespassing hundreds more beneficiaries from the department on which they depend for survival, Government should ensure that:

Individuals and families in hunger and homelessness should be given the assistance to which they are entitled, instead of facing a culture of denial

All people approaching Work and Income for help should be told they have a right to appeal decisions, and given the necessary information to help them do this

A new, much fairer review and appeal process should be established

“The new Social Security Bill due out later this year will be a prime opportunity for changes to be made.

“Continuing with the status quo should not be an option for any Government which has a shred of humanity to its name.

https://nz.news.yahoo.com/election/a/-/29304334/toxic-winz-culture-the-real-crime-aaap/
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August 20, 2015 7:02pm
stigie

What really pissed Reddy off was when Shawn would not engage with him again after certain things were said, he tried very very hard many times with abuse to arouse Shawn but he was having none of it.
The torment and not being engaged in conversation took its toll im afraid and so with the tail between his legs….he disappeared !~
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August 20, 2015 7:05pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9xpktqm0rnu5n7v/Baity's%20Freedom.gif?dl=0
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August 20, 2015 7:15pm
Griff

Conservative freedom.
Freedom to do only as we say.
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August 20, 2015 7:20pm
Manolo

The clown makes arrangements to join the race: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/top-obama-strategist-joins-draft-biden-effort-n412706

Steve Schale, who served as President Barack Obama’s top Florida strategist during his 2008 and 2012 White House campaigns, has joined the Draft Biden committee, NBC News has confirmed.
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August 20, 2015 7:20pm
wikiriwhis business

The Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal could allow foreign entities to buy large assets without Crown approval, Prime Minister John Key has signalled.

Key was asked on Monday whether the TPP agreement, the proposed Pacific Rim trade deal being negotiated between 12 countries, would make it easier for buyers to acquire large land holdings in New Zealand.

He said negotiations were ongoing so he could not give a definitive answer, but he signalled that the matter under consideration was not “sensitive land” which includes farmland, but the size of other investments which would trigger an approval process.

“The question is not so much about sensitive land, I think, from memory, I’m pretty sure it’s about whether it triggers the threshold, and how much that increase

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/70594420/TPP-could-allow-foreigners-to-buy-large-assets-without-formal-approval-John-Key

Absolutely criminal and worthy of capital punishment. Would have been before 1989
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August 20, 2015 7:25pm
nasska

Liberals tend to want to control and regulate the economic freedom that conservatives want & conservatives tend to want to control and regulate the social/cultural freedoms that Liberals want.

Liberals want social, cultural and economic freedom extended to the majority. Conservatives want those freedoms extended only to the elite/ruling class.

Liberals want to control corporate behavior with regulations on pollution, working conditions, hiring practices, etc. They aren’t very concerned about individuals’ private affairs & tend to leave them to their own preferences.

Conservatives want to control individual behavior, especially in regards to sexual activity & religious preferences. They aren’t very concerned about corporate practices & tend to let them do as they please

It isn’t about freedom at all……it’s all about CONTROL.
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August 20, 2015 7:26pm
stigie

http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/757/757494/hillbilly-jim-interview-20070122041104368-000.jpg

You were his favorite hillbilly Nasska, no doubt about that !~
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August 20, 2015 7:30pm
nasska

With that bit of info I will go to my grave as a happy man stigie. 🙂
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August 20, 2015 7:32pm
Reid

What really pissed Reddy off was when Shawn would not engage with him again after certain things were said, he tried very very hard many times with abuse to arouse Shawn but he was having none of it.

When was that stigie?
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August 20, 2015 7:39pm
RF

Paulus. Noted your comment about mine safety at 8.27am and the pike river mine. I have relations on the coast and they tell me that there is a dirty big elephant in the room concerning the mine tragedy. People forget that no one knew who was down there when it blew its top. There is a fail safe system that involves a name tag being left on a board to indicate who is in the mine. In Aussie if you breach this it’s instant dismissal. Here it was a regular problem and caused a massive panic trying to work out who was down there. I won’t Mention the sensors on machinery being covered to prevent them activating. I understand that had it been an Aussie mine it would have been shut down before the explosion because of staff issues rather than management.

I could be totally wrong and if so I apologise. Somehow I believe that my sources are spot on.
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August 20, 2015 7:42pm
cha

Meanwhile, in Bellamy’s….

( http://www.patriciapiccinini.net/ )
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August 20, 2015 7:42pm
stigie

The last few comments he made Reid was about 12 months ago, but someone here might confirm when he disappeared.
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August 20, 2015 7:44pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Bea B 11:12 am

It appears that Andrew Little when Secretary of the EPMU was supportive of Pike River management and was dismissive of early concerns.

This weblink summarises some of his published comments and TV interviews
http://nzagainstthecurrent.blogspot.co.nz/2014/12/how-andrew-little-failed-pike-river.html
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August 20, 2015 7:44pm
Griff

While you had your holiday from kb reid.
It was an extension of the spat I posted above. Soon after that exchange Shawn wisely refused to engage at all with redblurt.
Redblurt trolled him continuously yet shawn held out from replying.
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August 20, 2015 7:46pm
Rowan

This blog would also be far better off without the bigoted ramblings of the troll @ 6.59!!
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August 20, 2015 7:46pm
Griff

Hi rowan…….
evnin d4j
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August 20, 2015 7:49pm
nasska

stigie & Reid

Baity copped his fourth strike for his comment on May 2nd, 2015 at 2:25 pm. Shawn may or may not have potted him but I’m pretty sure he never came back. See http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/comments_policy
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August 20, 2015 7:55pm
stigie

Wonder if Dad’s heading off to the world cup ?
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August 20, 2015 7:55pm
stigie

Thanks for that Nasska, im fucking miles out ?
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August 20, 2015 7:57pm
rightoverlabour

@ Fletch There are a huge number of pro Baby murder sickos that infest this site. The pro Murder lobby don’t like it when they are given the grizzly details of the murder and mutilation of pre born babies. I challenge any of them that are pro murder to go and work in one of these death camps. Fuckheads the lot of them.
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August 20, 2015 7:59pm
cricko

nasska @ 7.26

So, did you plagarise that effort from somewhere or are they origional profound conclusions that
you have come up with after much deep thought all on your own.
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August 20, 2015 8:00pm
nasska

cricko

They’re adapted from notes I took from a library book ages back. Abridged & rewritten but I can’t attribute them as I never kept a reference.
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August 20, 2015 8:04pm
cha

Single lap lunacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmNXCJt7K3Q
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August 20, 2015 8:06pm
Griff

😆
I think redblurt has deleted his flounce from blogging post
I’ve looked and can not find it
😆

Right over labour wanna play dead baby’s jokes .

What did the aborted fetus say to the Conservative ?

answer
You only love me if i get ripped from the womb and chucked in the trash.
if I had have been born you would have called me a bastard and my mum a slut and refused her any help to raise me
The only reason I was conceived is mums conservative parents refused to give her sex ed and she didn’t know any better .

Funny joke huh.
nope not really just retarded conservative thinking
for fucken real
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August 20, 2015 8:10pm
cricko

By the way.

Here is a typical ad, picked at random from yesterdays personals.

https://auckland.craigslist.org/cas/5151329611.html

And people wonder why 1 in 12 NZ gay males are HIV positive and 1 in 20 are riddled
with full blown aids.

Why arn’t the facts in the above paragraph publicised widely in order that young naive gay prospects
know what they risk getting into ?
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August 20, 2015 8:18pm
cha

Claude Lelouch’s C’était un Rendez-vous. (1976)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwjy0qED2Lo
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August 20, 2015 8:19pm
Nostradamus

Cricko:

Do you often browse through the personals?

Is there anything that the Kiwiblog community might be able to help you with?
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August 20, 2015 8:20pm
stigie

Vaseline on special ?
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August 20, 2015 8:24pm
big bruv

Rowan

Can you ask D4J if he is looking after Richie’s place whilst he is away at the RWC, or, is he going along as a member of the support staff.
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August 20, 2015 8:39pm
cricko

Nostradamus

as usual you have totally missed the point.

Education is the key to fighting the current epidemic of STDs among NZs gays including the new risk
of syphilis eminating from Christchurch which will soon transfer into the hetero population as closet shirtlifters
return to their loving wives after a quickie with their new bum friend.

Young male Kiwis who are considering bending over should all be made aware of the new risks involved.
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August 20, 2015 8:41pm
Reid

nasska, stigie and griff. Thanks.
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August 20, 2015 8:45pm
RF

Lock up your children. According to the authors in the standard there is a rogue poll on the loose. The latest Roy Morgan has shattered the dreams and hopes of the loopy left and they are now searching for answers to explain why. Meanwhile those that should know better still attack and rubbish John Key. One day they will learn that this turns potential voters off and confirms that they belong to the nasty party.

I seem to remember that history speaks of a foolish English King claiming he could turn the tide back. I think his name was Mickey Savage.
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August 20, 2015 9:27pm
stigie

Yes RF, after the RM poll a month ago, there was a huge wankfest at the Stranded and after today’s poll, they dont know where to go for shelter. The poor bastards, this is all John Key’s fault !~
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August 20, 2015 9:37pm
AgentBallSack

Even under mad goat face Labour are unelectable. Mallard is fucked, in the Labour friendly Hutt South he needed a recount. Moa reproduction may not have helped but since then what has he done? Hipkins is going to turn Hutt South blue and thats a fucking Labour fortress. I know – I live here. Dunne is done though. About time NZs Don retired….place your bets here
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August 20, 2015 10:09pm
AgentBallSack

I bet Cricko and starboard are dreading the day they release the Grindr email addresses.
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August 20, 2015 10:12pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Unbelievable!!!!!!
Idiots in charge of the asylum (oops DOC)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11500322
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August 20, 2015 10:16pm
AgentBallSack

Gotta wonder why cricko is trawling gay craigslist ads. I mean, I know craigslist exists….but I don’t go there looking at cocks to prove my point
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August 20, 2015 10:17pm
cricko

Hey BallSack.

So, you don’t want to know about it.

Lets keep it secret, right ?

Not to be talked about, then it doesn’t happen. Right ?

Let our young men find out about it the hard way. Correct ?

By the way, just so you don’t have to go looking at cocks to prove your point…..

Then what the fuck is your point ?

Bet you have no answer to that simple question.

What the fuck is your point ?

C’mon mate….what the fuck is your point ?
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August 20, 2015 10:55pm
AgentBallSack

My point, and if I had one – apologies Spike Milligan
A loose women that fucks and sucks whoever and whatever she wants over a weekend is FAR more likely to give you a disease Cricko. SO think about that next time you dip your wick in a one night stand. Chlamydia, Syphilis, Aids, the Pox. All available at your local bar. If you dont suck cocks you dont have to worry about it from guys. But if you screw anyone drunk, male or female – prepare for the worst.
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August 20, 2015 11:02pm
AgentBallSack

Cricko
So what I am getting is that you are aware of these diseases being transmitted through our communities. That’s good. so am I. But also you mention that these diseases are being transferred through unsafe sex between maybe bisexual men and their subsequent sexual relationships with females, then spreading the diseases among hetero people? Another very likely outcome. But what will that make us? Scared of pussy? Great! Now we are scared of pussy and cock. Neither of them bother me but I am only interested in one of them. The guys that like cock don’t scare me though. I wonder why they scare you so much?
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August 20, 2015 11:15pm
cricko

Ballsack

So that is your answer to, what the fuck is your point ?
Pathetic.

You faggots will never get it.

There is a difference. Let me spell it out for you.

Do you think that 1 in 12 “loose women’ are HIV positive ?

Do you think that 1 in 20 ‘loose women’ are riddleed with full blown aids ?

Are you able to spot the difference between a loose women and an aids riddled faggot determined to corrupt a naive youth.
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August 20, 2015 11:18pm
AgentBallSack

cricko
one in ten men is gay (apparently)
so as long as you fuck your straight male friends you have nothing to worry about
your argument has no basis in reality unless you are gay
cheers 🙂
BTW what the fuck is your point?
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August 20, 2015 11:24pm
AgentBallSack

Chlamydia:
You can get chlamydia by having unprotected vaginal, anal, and oral sex. This means that you can get chlamydia in the throat and anus as well as the genitals. One simple way to protect yourself is by using a condom when engaging in these types of sexual contact.

An infected woman can give her baby chlamydia during childbirth.

pssssttt
Chlamydia 1 in 10 of the fucking population.
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August 20, 2015 11:37pm
AgentBallSack

Are you able to spot the difference between a loose women and an aids riddled faggot determined to corrupt a naive youth.

haha. You seem butthurt.
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August 20, 2015 11:47pm
SGA

AgentBallSack at 11:37 pm

Chlamydia:
You can get chlamydia by having unprotected vaginal, anal, and oral sex. This means that you can get chlamydia in the throat and anus as well as the genitals. One simple way to protect yourself is by using a condom when engaging in these types of sexual contact.

Dear Dr ABS,
So… if a man is performing an oral act on a woman, who wears the condom and where?
Yours,
Curious of Remuera
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August 21, 2015 7:25am
EAD

No wonder Red doesn’t post here anymore. Why would anybody with an ounce of intelligence or integrity want to “debate” with imbeciles. It’s the same reason hardly anybody else posts at the same time when the same 5 (+ their multiple identities) morons spend their time slapping each other on the bum, ticking up each others posts as obviously you’ve got nothing better to do in your sad little lives. Morons who by using terms such as “god-whack” or “conservo – nutters” says more about you than anyone who is religious or Conservative.

Utter losers, why don’t ya get yourselves a whattsap group or Skype each other rather than bore us silly with your lonely hearts club chat.
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August 21, 2015 7:33am
Griff

Liberal blog Mr EAD
What is allowed and acceptable in this blog is entirely up to Mr DPF also a liberal.
What red suffered from is people constructing logical and informed replies to his over the top rhetoric
He did not find it palatable to have informed debate against his extreme views . Hence has retired to his own space where dissident and audience is almost non existent
Tough titties dont like the fire get out of the kitchen .
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August 21, 2015 7:45am
mikenmild

I’m very sorry that you find the atmosphere at Kiwiblog uncongenial, EAD. Are there no other forums that are more welcoming to your brand of craziness?
Perhaps you could try:
ww.antijewishstuff.blogspot
ww.imacrazyaustrian.com
ww.doomsdayprepping.co.nz
Personally, I would be sad if there were one less crazy at Kiwiblog to mock.
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August 21, 2015 7:51am
stephieboy

EAD, I would of thought someone like cricko would fit your Comrade Redbaiter bill perfectly. Comrade Red doesn’t post here because few believe his deluded poppycock much like few believe yours here on KB.

As a matter of interest how many actually particiapte on his lunacy blog ?
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