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What a joke this country is. Scum thug , who should be in jail because of previous violence , on the run with his pregnant be-atch!

Special people being paid to bless a shit house ! using Police vehicles with flashing lights etc to attend..bawhahaha !

Just wait til National get into power…you’ll see …this sorta shit will stop..
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August 19, 2015 2:01pm
Colville

What is the best bar in Wellington for a bit of a (gentle) session?
Where to eat at afterwards?
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August 19, 2015 2:09pm
thedavincimode

Colville

Ask Winston. Maybe next time you’re talking to the powers that be you should suggest that Winston publishes a “Where to Drink & Dine” guide as a fund-raiser for the next election. Go like hot cakes I reckon.

Edit: maybe not for Kermadec if you’re ever in Auckland – that deal might not still be running.
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August 19, 2015 2:19pm
Maggy Wassilieff

weirdo with drone?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/71243872/complaint-laid-after-drone-follows-woman-home-chases-dog
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August 19, 2015 3:29pm
cha

Drone Apocalypse!.

http://www.ammoland.com/2015/08/snake-river-shooting-products-announces-drone-munition-now-shipping/#axzz3jEEB4fgh
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August 19, 2015 3:38pm
thedavincimode

cha

You just need the rocking chair and jar and you’re good to go.
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August 19, 2015 4:17pm
Inandout

stephieboy 1,42: Churches and such are blessed by ministers/priests to consecrate their grounds, but these kaumatuas merely put on a safety jacket go to the crash scene, and mumble some meaningless voodoo. I did hear that when Police attend a fatal road crash they are supposed to read aloud some of this Maori spiritual stuff. This may be now farmed out to a kaumatua contractor, I don’t know.
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August 19, 2015 4:28pm
stephieboy

Inanout, but what is the evidence that a blessing by a priest/ minister ,whether on their church grounds or not ,is superior to a kaumatua’s – Maori spiritual stuff ?
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August 19, 2015 4:39pm
Viking2

The world’s most liveable cities aren’t necessarily the cheapest.

Melbourne, Australia topped the Economist Intelligence Unit’s List annual Global Liveability Ranking for the fifth year in a row, but a one bedroom apartment in the heart of the trendy city will set you back 1,653 Australian dollars a month, or $1211.

See also: Melbourne, Australia, is the most liveable city in the world… still

The EIU ranking considers five factors: stability, health care, culture and environment, education, and infrastructure. But we know that if you’re considering making the move to one of the most liveable cities, the only factor you really care about is how much it will cost you to actually live there.

So we took a look at Numbeo — a crowd-sourced database of stats about the cost of living — to see if the top five “most liveable” cities are in your house-hunting price range.

http://mashable.com/2015/08/18/most-liveable-rent-too-high/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link

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So all good in Auckland then.
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August 19, 2015 5:35pm
Dave Mann

This from Stuff now:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/71278164/bangkok-bombing-investigation-turns-to-uighurs

“A revenge attack for the deportation of Uighur Muslims from Thailand to China has emerged as a key focus of investigations into Monday’s bombing in the Thai capital.

A massive hunt is under way for a man wearing a yellow T-shirt who was seen in security camera video leaving a backpack on a bench at a Hindu shrine where a blast killed 22 people and wounded at least 120.”

As I suspected earlier on this thread. Fucking Muslims.

Probably. Nothing yet proven, of course, but almost everywhere on the planet that innocent people are killed by bombs in this manner, the fucking religion of peace isn’t far away.
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August 19, 2015 5:45pm
UglyTruth

“The Civil Aviation Authority stated drone owners seeking to fly their craft above public land would need to ask the landowner.”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/71243872/complaint-laid-after-drone-follows-woman-home-chases-dog

Seriously, what a complete bubblehead.
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August 19, 2015 5:51pm
UglyTruth

but almost everywhere on the planet that innocent people are killed by bombs in this manner, the fucking religion of peace isn’t far away.

Except when it’s a false flag like 9/11 of course.
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August 19, 2015 5:54pm
Viking2

Many, many millions are owed by a group of 17 Australian companies former Blue Chip boss Mark Bryers is alleged to have been illegally managing, liquidators say.

BRI Ferrier was last week appointed liquidators of Sydney-based Talos Accounting Group, where Bryers worked under the name Mark Ryan to avoid negative associations with the collapse of New Zealand group Blue Chip’s.

Read more:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11499669

So which Aussie is going to shoot this prick?
Deja vue.
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August 19, 2015 5:54pm
Dave Mann

@UglyTruth: Except when it’s a false flag like 9/11 of course.

Don’t be ridiculous.
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August 19, 2015 6:02pm
Viking2

So it would appear the Nats. needed Winston to rattle their cage once more.

Russia has announced that it is lifting restrictions on some New Zealand milk exports.

Russian media said on Wednesday that temporary restrictions on 29 Fonterra processing plants, following the botulism scare of 2013, had been removed.

The New Zealand Ministry for Primary Industries confirmed the restrictions had been lifted for some products such as anhydrous milk fat and whey and whey concentrates.

“We’re continuing to work with the Russian authorities to lift the temporary restrictions on the remaining products produced at those 29 plants, and to ensure all other New Zealand plants wishing to export dairy products to Russia are able to do so,” an MPI spokesman said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/agribusiness/71277159/fonterra-plants-can-send-milk-products-to-russia

As he said fuck the solidaity with those that don’t give a shit about us. Lets do business.
Never mind appeasing the EEC Mr Key.
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August 19, 2015 6:02pm
Gabby

The yankers wouldn’t like that. It might jeopardise TPPA.
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August 19, 2015 6:16pm
UglyTruth

Don’t be ridiculous.

If you want ridiculous then try the NIST position that there was no evidence of explosives. The sounds of multiple explosions from WTC7 were recorded by a MSM reporter, and witnesses heard explosions from the twin towers as well. NIST has no explanation for the extraordinarily levels of heat either.
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August 19, 2015 6:18pm
Griff

Ugly tell us about the hole into the middle of the earth.
or alien shape shifting reptiles.
or the Royal family and ritual child abuse.
or any one of the many loony tune ideas you have.

On second thoughts go into the kitchen get some tin foil and wrap your entire body in it paying extra attention to the gaps between your toes and the insides of your ear canals.
Then take a photo and post it on here for us all to admire.
As that would then be one of the most sensible things you have ever posted on KB.
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August 19, 2015 6:30pm
UglyTruth

… or any one of the many loony tune ideas you have.

Why didn’t you put the 9/11 false flag on your list?
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August 19, 2015 6:31pm
itstricky

I wonder if the actions of Kaumatua Tepania Kingi would be more acceptable to kowtow and Inandout if the actions were from a white Pastor or priest ? Shall we call him say Peter King ?

You and I both know he would. But you and I both know it’s also not worth the hassle.
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August 19, 2015 6:32pm
Griff

Because you have already posted that .
We have already refuted you hundreds of times .
and the topic bores me stupid .
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August 19, 2015 6:34pm
itstricky

stephieboy 1,42: Churches and such are blessed by ministers/priests to consecrate their grounds, but these kaumatuas merely put on a safety jacket go to the crash scene, and mumble some meaningless voodoo.

I adore that you’ve validated church practise but gone on to call Maori spiritual beliefs ‘voodoo’. Hilarious. I happen to think both are of importance and are relevant but to single out one over the other as voodoo is kinda tunnel vision christian thinking. Where do we start? Holy water, christenings, crackers or wine?
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August 19, 2015 6:36pm
RF

For Christs sake arm our Police so they have an even chance to protect themselves. They are no bloody use hiding from armed offenders who steal their patrol car.

Knuckle dragging lefty pacifists are more concerned about the rights of these thugs than the safety of good NZ folk.
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August 19, 2015 6:38pm
mikenmild

I was trying to ask you the other day, Ugly, whether you could name a conspiracy theory, pseudoscience or piece of woo that you did not find credible.
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August 19, 2015 6:38pm
UglyTruth

We have already refuted you hundreds of times .

No, you haven’t even does it once.

You can’t refute the fact that NIST is unable to provide any explanation for the evidence that explosives were used to demolish buildings in NY on 9/11.
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August 19, 2015 6:41pm
wikiriwhis business

20,000 more Kiwi kids have fallen into poverty under John Key’s watch.

95 primary school halls would be filled by the amount of children fallen into poverty under J Key

https://www.facebook.com/AndrewLittleLabour/photos/a.661375680623237.1073741827.144189409008536/770519699708834/?type=1&theater
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August 19, 2015 6:41pm
SPC

Ugly, 9/11 can only be a false flag if you can identify who was behind it. Can you?
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August 19, 2015 6:46pm
rightoverlabour

I have always voted National. However, the reduced drinking levels, reduced speed tolerances and now this stupid GST on imports (especially the $25,000 if you use VPNs FFS!) are making me a little miffed. I really hope Act come up with some decent policies to counter the crap emanating from National. John key ( who I don’t have a major problem with) needs to find out what the person in the street actually thinks about these things. Otherwise someone else will, and they will get my vote. Oh, and as today’s fiasco shows, arm the cops.
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August 19, 2015 6:50pm
UglyTruth

Ugly, 9/11 can only be a false flag if you can identify who was behind it.

No, it is a false flag because it wasn’t carried out by those who were blamed for it.
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August 19, 2015 6:51pm
SPC

mikenmild the question for ugly is whether he believes the Khazarian Rothschild synagogue of satan conspiracy theory that Reid subscribes to, or the end of the western economy in September (a super GFC) that EAD subscribes to.

Another to all three, is whether they subscribe to the USA having a Zionist controlled government?
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August 19, 2015 6:52pm
SPC

Ugly, are you denying that hijackers were involved? Or that al Qaeda claimed credit and never accused the Americans of any false flag?
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August 19, 2015 6:56pm
AgentBallSack

The day is about to get worse for a lot more people….

Avid Life Media runs Ashley Madison, the internet’s #1 cheating site, for people who are married or in a relationship to have an affair. ALM also runs Established Men, a prostitution/human trafficking website for rich men to pay for sex, as well as cougar life, a dating website for cougars, man crunch, a site for gay dating, swappernet for swingers, and the big and the beautiful, for overweight dating.

Trevor, ALM’s CTO once said “Protection of personal information” was his biggest “critical success factors” and “I would hate to see our systems hacked and/or the leak of personal information”

Well Trevor, welcome to your worst fucking nightmare.

STATEMENT FROM ASHLEY MADISON HACKERS
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August 19, 2015 6:57pm
Griff

You can’t refute the fact that NIST is unable to provide any explanation for the evidence that explosives were used to demolish buildings in NY on 9/11.

That is because there is no real evidence that explosives were used.
You have posted evidences according to you that thermite as well as mini nukes were used.
This is a contradiction in your own story.
To demolish buildings with planed explosions is a massive undertaken done by experienced professionals that takes weeks of preparation do you really think that was done without anyone noticing in an operating office tower?

Dont bother with an answer I would rather drill holes in my own forehead with a brace and bit than engage with your nutty whacks.

Engaging with you on a rational level only reinforces you paranoid delusions. Making a sick puppy sicker is cruel.
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August 19, 2015 6:59pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ntzwykrw176a3pr/UT%2019.jpg?dl=0
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August 19, 2015 7:01pm
mikenmild

No SPC, I already know that Ugly, like Reid and EAD, believes in a myriad of unsound ideas. I’m interested in exploring what things Ugly might find too incredible, as in the past he has shown signs of rational thinking absent from the other two.
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August 19, 2015 7:03pm
AgentBallSack

nasska what concerns me is you have 18 other files starting with UT
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August 19, 2015 7:04pm
AgentBallSack

Griff it was the fire extinguishers, keep up with the play man.
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August 19, 2015 7:06pm
UglyTruth

That is because there is no real evidence that explosives were used.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERhoNYj9_fg
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August 19, 2015 7:07pm
nasska

I’ve posted most of them ABS……tinfoil & its uses doesn’t generate a lot of new material.
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August 19, 2015 7:09pm
SPC

mikenmild, my interest is in why none of the three challenge the other two on their CT? Is there a CT union, whereby they are not allowed to disagree with each other? A bit like demarcation rules? They promote their own without interference by the others?

And of course, a Zionist controlled America is the CT they seem to have in common. The alternative media is built on this – “as the Jews control the MSM”.
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August 19, 2015 7:11pm
wikiriwhis business

Lance McC

National Parties approach to taxation that it seems a lot of people missed.
Capital gains is bad because it hits the wealthy. but taxing online purchases like iTunes is good because it hits the poor, the young and the middle class.
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August 19, 2015 7:14pm
mikenmild

SPC
It might be something to do with crank magnetism, the idea that people can be attracted to multiple shonky ideas simultaneously. Probably a sign of a weak mind. A crank may be reluctant to criticise other cranks, because once you subject others’ ideas to critical examination you may be forced to examine the basis of your own beliefs.
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August 19, 2015 7:15pm
stephieboy

Ugly truth,

“No, it is a false flag because it wasn’t carried out by those who were blamed for it.”

Thus the 19 hijackers on the airline manifests were a figment of our imaginations / faked ?

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/No_hijackers_on_the_passenger_manifests
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August 19, 2015 7:17pm
UglyTruth

It might be something to do with crank magnetism

Like when a bunch of cranks try to divert attention away from the fact that they have no explanation for the evidence of explosions, you mean?
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August 19, 2015 7:20pm
Griff

http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2013/02/26/what-happens-when-you-study-conspiracy-theories-the-conspiracy-theorists-make-up-conspiracy-theories-about-you/
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August 19, 2015 7:21pm
UglyTruth

That is because there is no real evidence that explosives were used.

Did you watch the video Griff? It’s only 10 minutes long and it has audio recordings of explosions.
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August 19, 2015 7:23pm
AgentBallSack

Anyone who owns an iPad deserves anything they get. Since that’s the whole premise of anything that starts with “i”. I also notice most lefties and Greenies own iPads, iPhones with no thought for the rare minerals or children being paid a dollar a day to make them. Fucking hypocrites.
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August 19, 2015 7:24pm
mikenmild

Sorry Ugly, I don’t have any real interest in debating 9/11. Please don’t take that as an indication that I can’t; I just can’t be arsed. I am more interested in your pseudolegal theories though, and what you think about other kooky theories.
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August 19, 2015 7:24pm
SPC

mikenmild, yes – and then a Zionist controlled America (in control of the MSM) is the CT enables the others, as it explains why few of the public agree with them.
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August 19, 2015 7:26pm
AgentBallSack

Did you watch the video Griff? It’s only 10 minutes long and it has audio recordings of explosions.

Probably left over explosions from Brian Williams days in Afghanistan & Iraq.
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August 19, 2015 7:27pm
UglyTruth

Sorry Ugly, I don’t have any real interest in debating 9/11. Please don’t take that as an indication that I can’t;

Why makes you so special? Nobody else can explain the explosions as anything other that a fact that tend to show that the MSM explanation is a lie.
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August 19, 2015 7:28pm
stephieboy

Ugly Truth, what kind of explosions exactly ? Audio or Video ??

Witnesses ? Bystanders , fire crews ??
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August 19, 2015 7:29pm
Griff

Hmmmm ancient Manuel hole drilling device
forehead
rather difficult contortion
exertion
pain
more pain
blood
No ugly a msm story of explosions on what was an incredible confusing day does not prove anything besides the msm can get a little carried away at times.
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August 19, 2015 7:29pm
mikenmild

I must admit that there is some force to the argument (from Griff’s link):

Don’t argue with cranks. I can’t agree more. And historically this is what has worked with denialist groups. You don’t debate them as if they’re honest brokers, you treat them as the defective brains that they are, and eventually, their influence dwindles, and they’ll be reduced to a small community of losers sharing their delusions of grandeur and righteous indignation in some tiny corner of the internet.
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August 19, 2015 7:30pm
UglyTruth

Probably left over explosions from Brian Williams days in Afghanistan & Iraq.

Nope, you can see the reporter react when she hears the explosions, and then you see WTC7 come down.
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August 19, 2015 7:30pm
AgentBallSack

“……and they’ll be reduced to a small community of losers sharing their delusions of grandeur and righteous indignation in some tiny corner of the internet.”

Dammit!
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August 19, 2015 7:31pm
UglyTruth

Don’t argue with cranks.

Translation: Don’t argue when you know you will lose.
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August 19, 2015 7:31pm
mikenmild

I wouldn’t say that, Ugly. Mock them rather than buy into the argument maybe. I’m prepared to argue some things.
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August 19, 2015 7:34pm
UglyTruth

I’m prepared to argue some things.

But not why NIST lied about the explosions, right?
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August 19, 2015 7:35pm
mikenmild

I told you why I’m not interested in 9/11 theories. PRATT and all that.
I’m more interested in your ideas about sovereignty and common law.
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August 19, 2015 7:37pm
UglyTruth

I told you why I’m not interested in 9/11 theories. PRATT and all that.

The evidence is real, it isn’t a theory. And it hasn’t been refuted once, let alone a thousand times.
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August 19, 2015 7:41pm
mikenmild

I disagree, but, as I said, I’m not going down that particular rabbit hole.
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August 19, 2015 7:42pm
SPC

mikenmild, as per sovereignty, what reid, EAD and ugly have in common is belief in God and corruption in human government, and an inclination to link that corruption to the influence of Jews/Zionists.

This gets linked to Jews who are liberals of the left and Jews linked to banking on the right, both apparently all powerful an influence on human government.
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August 19, 2015 7:46pm
Reid

UT what’s your take on whodunnit?

Mine’s Israel per many many sites but for example the evidence offered here.

http://bollyn.com/

What’s yours, if you have one?

Sheeple note #1.2

I used not to care about who did it because fact is, all one needs to know is it could not by laws of physics have happened the way the official story portrayed it. Hallucinating that’s precisely how it happened is a sign of low IQ people on some pretty big drugs so let’s hope none of you sheeple have fallen for the childishness, less ness. I mean, c’mon. Saudis hijack planes, in the best defended airspace in the world, for hours. Buildings built to stand collapse the same day whereas similar towers like Madrid a few years later subject to much more intense heat stand? I mean, yeah, right. Then two countries where the hijackers didn’t come from are invaded as a result? Really?

All of this is of course just childish nonsense a village idiot could see through. No Kiwiblogger could possibli entertain such foolishness.

Of course.

However then it occurred to me maybe I should care (who did it). So I looked into it. Took me about 5 minutes.

Naturally enough, cui bono is the answer, it always is.

You just have to be logical, and unemotional. And not jump the gate, I mean, think that just cos all fingers point to poor widdle Iswael, this doesn’t mean she’s not guilty. Not her people of course, the evil ones who rule inside her and who wish to destroy her. That’s who did it. People like Bibi. Not the Jew in the street, they’re just like you. But Bibi. No. Bibi’s not like you.

Can you do that, sheeple?

Let’s see.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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August 19, 2015 7:47pm
Griff

‘But I don’t want to go among mad people,’ Alice remarked.
‘Oh, you can’t help that,’ said the Cat: ‘we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.’
‘How do you know I’m mad?’ said Alice.
‘You must be,’ said the Cat, ‘or you wouldn’t have come here.’

‘It’s really dreadful’ She muttered to herself, ‘The way all the creatures argue. It’s enough to drive one crazy!’
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August 19, 2015 7:50pm
Nookin

“The evidence is real. It isn’t a theory”.

Maybe. But then, it is one stupendous coincidence rhat the charges go off at exactly the same time as the building collapses for unrelated reasons.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056088/Footage-kills-conspiracy-theories-Rare-footage-shows-WTC-7-consumed-fire.html
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August 19, 2015 7:54pm
UglyTruth

UT what’s your take on whodunnit?

Yeah, the Zionists get implicated by cui bono, opportunity, modus operandi, and also by foreknowledge and the fact that they were running an extensive intelligence operation at the time.
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August 19, 2015 7:55pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/26lpz12x3araxcg/Different.jpg?dl=0
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August 19, 2015 7:56pm
Viking2

Something you just might enjoy looking at. Picture from the past.

https://www.facebook.com/Colorizethehutt/photos/a.1444578602461245.1073741827.1444577055794733/1575394986046272/?type=1&theater
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August 19, 2015 7:58pm
stephieboy

Ugly Truth, NiST did not lie about any thing . Your video is very unconvincing e.g the interview with the mother with her babe. The attempted filtering of sounds really shows us nothing except for a continuous roar and rumble consistent with WTC7 collapse but certainly not the distinctive crack, crack. boom, boom consistent with controlled demolition ,including ejection of squibs of materials , dust etc from the building . Nor the characteristic charges exploding from bottom up.

The Collapse of the Towers and WTC7 was an unprecedented event with many different things happening and at times confusing.. Interesting the fire officer interviewed seems to be the only one to have heard the booming sound which is consistent with people often seeing and hearing different things in such a cataclysmic event .

Running extensive intelligence at the time ? Yeah, like the 4,000 Jews who did not turn up for work at the WTC on 9/11 ?
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August 19, 2015 7:59pm
SPC

reid, the only way to stop a hijacked plane flying into a building is to shoot it down. To do that one would need to know it was intended to fly it into a building before it happened.

Using Saudis who could get entry into the USA is what a terrorist group would have to do. There was one based in Afghanistan that claimed to be behind it. Removing a government hosting a terrorist group was hardly outrageous.

Sure the WMD and Iraq was way out there as stupid, but had nothing to do with 9/11.

PS – the point of the CT about a controlled demolition is to evidence foreknowledge of the hijacking. Thus the claim they let it go ahead to exploit for geo-political reasons. And who could get access for the weeks earlier to take the building down, Israelis or Americans? If true, the real conspiracy was to create a war against terrorism and thus the Patriot Act. Iraq was still a separate matter.
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August 19, 2015 8:00pm
UglyTruth

But then, it is one stupendous coincidence rhat the charges go off at exactly the same time as the building collapses for unrelated reasons.

You’d have to be seriously in denial to think that the timing was a coincidence.

“a newly released video appears to finally prove once and for all that Building 7 was brought down by the intense heat of the blazing World Trade Center”

The thing is that no steel-framed building fire has every resulted in a rapid symmetric collapse. Controlled demolition on the other hand matches the explosions and the collapse of WTC7 into its own footprint.
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August 19, 2015 8:01pm
UglyTruth

Ugly Truth, NiST did not lie about any thing

Fuck off, cretin. They lied when they made representations to the effect that there was no evidence of explosions.
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August 19, 2015 8:05pm
Reid

and the fact that they were running an extensive intelligence operation at the time

Absolutely UT.

And yet the sheeple are quite oblivious.

How peculiar.

Almost as if they’re complete thicky’s.
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August 19, 2015 8:08pm
nasska

To certain commenters on Kiwiblog:
9/11=Conspiracy.

To normal people:
9/11=0.81 Recurring.
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August 19, 2015 8:13pm
stephieboy

Ugly Truth, other things bought down WTC7 other than the fires raging our of control and that included debris falling from the North tower directly onto to to it that initiated the fires .

The fire fighters were confronted with two problems in controlling the blaze : Lack of fire personal ( At other WTC sites ) and the debris from WTC 1 damaging the water main for the WTC7 fire sprinkler system .

No steel framed collapse ? Obviously you have little understanding what intense fires can do to structural steel which is simply seriously weaken them .

9/11 Truthers have sought to deny externsive fires at WTC7 . The video from the Daily Mail merely puts a lie to that claim.

Reid ,what expensive intelligence operation a the time precisely ? 4,000 Jews not turning up on 9/11 ?? The Van removal truck bomb ? the Dancing Israelies Rather peculiar way for Mossad to operate ??
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August 19, 2015 8:13pm
SPC

Ugly, Israel is always running training and intelligence ops and one would be to track Arabs in the USA on visas who might be a threat to Jewish targets.
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August 19, 2015 8:14pm
stephieboy

SPC, but certainly not 4,000 Jews failing to turn up for work on 9/11 at WTC

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/israel.asp
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August 19, 2015 8:18pm
Reid

Most people I talk to nasska know there’s something seriously wrong with 911 but they don’t want to voice it lest they appear foolish.

This of course is precisely how the picture is portrayed.

Problem is it’s so obvious and the most important thing is…..

It’s the truth.

The story is bullshit.

Palpable.

Clear and

Present.

And you can’t keep that down, no matter how sophisticated is your propaganda and your social engineering and your manipulation and your computer modelling of how society will react when “x” happens.

Truth outs.

And the lids bulging on 911, because like I said, it’s so profoundly obvious.

The issue is, the only way to prevent the 10% necessary threshold required to blow any meme out of the water from happening, is to create another, bigger meme. This is where things like a dirty nuke or even a real nuke in Chicago for example blamed on Iran come into play.

And believe me nasska, this has all been planned long before 911.

And if you don’t believe me nasska and I know you don’t, then watch and consider, when something like that happens.

And don’t imagine mate, that because its some other city and it wasn’t a nuke it was a biological, that this means what I just said was wrong.

Because you didn’t get anything right. You can’t even understand Kennedy, can you. You think it was a bit suss, that’s about it, don’t you.

And yet you think you understand geopolitics like Libya, Syria, Ukraine and all the rest of it without even understanding incidents like that?

Don’t make me laugh.
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August 19, 2015 8:21pm
SPC

https://www.google.co.nz/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=hts&oq=&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGHP_en-GBNZ423NZ423&q=4%2c000+Jews+not+turning+up+on+9%2f11
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August 19, 2015 8:21pm
stephieboy

Reid, what is profoundly obvious ? The 4,000 absent without leave ? The Van Removal Truck Bomb , the Dancing Israelis , Larry Silverstens alleged ” Pull it ” quote ????
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August 19, 2015 8:25pm
Viking2

Bus commuters say their travel times have not changed since the Hills M2 upgrade was finished despite better public transport used as a key justification for the project.

After enduring two years of clogged traffic while construction was underway, some bus users say they have lost out while motorists reap the benefits of the widening of the tollway between the Hills district and Lane Cove.

Transurban, which has a contract to operate the road until 2048, has boosted its toll revenue by almost 40 per cent over the past financial year with the M2 raking in $221 million, a 14 per cent increase on previous year.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/hills-m2-bus-commuters-say-pain-of-upgrade-led-to-no-gain-in-bus-travel-times-20150817-gj0iso.html#ixzz3jFQNM7vV
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So FLASH ROADS AND LOTS OF BUSES DOESN’T WORK EITHER.

wHO WOULD,AVE THUNK?
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August 19, 2015 8:31pm
SPC

The CT mind goes like this.

Christian understanding of prophecy of the end time being based around passages in the book of Revelation about a synagogue of satan (Hebrew word for adversary) who are not real Jews but say they are (actually a comment about how sectarian Jews were becoming and how Jewish groups were dividing against each other).

Thus – Khazars became Jews. Rothschild as a Khazarian. Zionism, the worlds lefts and liberals and financial system controlled and ruled over by Khazarians (ruling over all the diverse strands of society, like a rival to the Christian god). They rule Israel and control the American government. The old Jews removed Jesus/the Khazarians removed Kennedy. Etc.
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August 19, 2015 8:31pm
EAD

When politicians lie to us on a daily basis, is it any wonder that we do not believe a word they say?

One only has to look at a story of another two faced right wing party leader that has surfaced in the past few days to realise that politics as practised in the Western World is a sham – entertainment for the masses to keep you arguing amongst yourselves while the world around you gets progressively destroyed and the elite consolidate power.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3200330/Cameron-stage-bang-table-row-Brussels-Plot-fool-voters-thinking-secured-good-deal.html

“David Cameron will orchestrate a ‘bang the table’ row with the French to try to convince voters he has secured a good deal from Brussels, senior Tories have admitted.

Former health secretary Andrew Lansley is reported to have told business leaders last week that the Prime Minister plans to ‘choreograph’ a row with French president Francois Hollande before putting his new deal on Europe to voters in an in/out referendum in the following months.

Another senior Tory said it was vital for the Prime Minister’s talks to have some ‘theatre’ to persuade voters that Mr Cameron had fought hard for Britain in the negotiations, which will be conducted behind closed doors.
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August 19, 2015 8:32pm
big bruv

Are you for real Ugly?

The Jews knew it was all going to happen ?
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August 19, 2015 8:33pm
nasska

Reid

I tend to take a flippant view to conspiracies because:

1) I’ve always believed in the logic behind Occam’s Razor.

2) Even if you are right & I am wrong there’s absolutely jackshit either of us can do about it.

3) I’m only here for the fun.

That said I always read your comments although sadly I can seldom give them much credence.
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August 19, 2015 8:36pm
SPC

EAD, it’s not a conspiracy to note that politicians sometimes set out on a course they know the public does not support. They either ignore the public, or if confronted by a referendum try and manage the result. Or in the case of asset sales here ignore that as well. Same applies to us re TPP as with the UK and the EU. And the USA and UK public played to accept regime change in Iraq.

Another current one is the treaty with Iran. Here two players the government and those said to control the government.
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August 19, 2015 8:43pm
mikenmild

I always try to look at Reid’s comments too. I find them amusing, childlike in their lack of sophistication. Unfortunately, there is a sinister side to the Jew hating memes, an underlying fanaticism which seeks to reject science, logic, rationality and humanity.
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August 19, 2015 8:46pm
nasska

Despite the rows between Shawn & Reid I still don’t think that Reid has ever expressed bugger all ill will against the Jews as a race, a culture or a religion. His enemy is their ruling classes be they Zionist political leaders or US magnates. With Israel representing a race & a religion it is harder to define targets…..eg NZ is a nominally Christian country but in our case religion has little to do with ethnicity.

More time spent in dispassionate proof reading before pressing ‘submit’ would help his cause.
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August 19, 2015 8:58pm
mikenmild

That’s a very charitable interpretation, nasska.
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August 19, 2015 9:07pm
nasska

Losing your cool on a forum is hard to undo Mike…..I have 20 demerits & a strike here to remind me.

Submit in haste…..repent at leisure.
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August 19, 2015 9:13pm
SPC

nasska, Reid does subscribe to blaming Jews for the death of Jesus, this because the bible says he was crucified by Rome and claims their agent the Governor was willing to spare his life – if Jews wanted him to (given a choice as to which life was spared his or another).

PS there was no precedent for the offer said to have been made by the Governor. It appears to be symbolic, as to Jews selecting which of the two lives was to be sacrificed – based on religious tradition important only to Jews (one goat killed and one exiled – origin of the term escaped goat). Something that would have no importance to a Roman governor.
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August 19, 2015 9:14pm
Reid

That’s a very charitable interpretation, nasska.

Cite a comment I’ve made where nasska’s interpretation doesn’t hold, mm.

You slimy little …

You can’t, can you.

Go on then.

You’d love to, wouldn’t you.

Only you can’t find one, can you.
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August 19, 2015 9:14pm
EAD

Have we been sold a lie that stretches generations?

http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2011/11/strange-strange-case-of-max-taubner.html?m=1
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August 19, 2015 9:17pm
stephieboy

milkenmild, well said.The total irrationality of anti jewish conspiracy theory is highlighted in this absurd claim ,

Jerry The Mouse Is A Jewish Invention

“At some point in our childhood, most of us have watched at least one episode of Tom And Jerry. Although the show did have its fair share of controversies (including some politically-incorrect episodes), the lighthearted cat-and-mouse capers have remained a hugely popular (and relatively harmless) show for generations of children. Enter Iranian professor Hasan Bolkhari, who basically ruined it for every kid on the planet when he implicated Jerry as nothing more than a tool for the Jews.
In a lecture he gave in 2006, Bolkhari outlined his belief that Jews created Jerry for the purpose of changing how Europeans perceived mice. According to him, Europeans began calling the Jews “dirty mice” during the Nazi era. To counter this, the Jews created the show and have been using it ever since to flip the common perception of the “stupid” mouse. Maybe this revelation also justifies the totally insane fatwa issued by a Saudi cleric that called for the killing of not only Jerry, but Mickey Mouse as well.”

http://listverse.com/2014/02/09/10-absurdly-crazy-jewish-conspiracy-theories/
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August 19, 2015 9:17pm
Inandout

stephieboy: I don’t know of any priests or pastors that are contracted by the police to attend road crashes or murder scenes to ‘cleanse away the spirits’.
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August 19, 2015 9:20pm
nasska

SPC

I’m the last person to debate the details any religion with…..as far as I’m concerned the entire stinking lot of theologies dreamt up by man are the biggest hindrance to peace & advancement of the human race.

That said I seem to remember that, as the story goes, Jesus got right up the noses of the religious rulers of the day. They were quite glad of the opportunity to get rid of him.
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August 19, 2015 9:22pm
SPC

EAD, his offence was wasting skilled labour and taking photos of the killings and showing them to his wife and friends. – not suppressing knowledge about what they did.
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August 19, 2015 9:23pm
SPC

nasska, “They were quite glad of the opportunity to get rid of him” – why believe that and not other stories?

And of course this served the meme that imperial powers do the bidding of the Jewish leadership/gods will being done
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August 19, 2015 9:28pm
Reid

C’mon mm, we’re waiting. Way you talk, they have to be all over the place.

But no, apparently not.

Slimy little fellow, aren’t you.
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