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Nostradamus

Nasska:

As a general rule we keep Sunday for religion & Tuesdays for sodomy but it’s not exclusive.

You left out Monday – that’s when we discuss court-ordered house sales for rate defaulters.
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August 18, 2015 8:02pm
Gabby

The Auditor-General is keeping it post 2013. No need to look into rash promises made by Nazianal MPs I guess. Maybe McMutton will think it’s safe to come home now. If questioned in the House he can mumble about ‘pending inquiry’.
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August 18, 2015 8:03pm
AgentBallSack

Cricko have you any concern that whooping cough, once all but eradicated is now rife amongst polynesian communities in Auckland?

PS Unless you’re a gay man practising unsafe sex in Christchurch you have nothing to worry about. So you’re fucked.
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August 18, 2015 8:06pm
cricko

nasska

If you think that sexual diseases that origionate in the male homosexual community
will not eventually be transferred to the general population you are so naive.

Who do YOU believe is drivng this issue underground ?

And in answer to your final question…Education.

Get it babe,,,,Education. Get the facts on the table with no PC

Youg gay blokes should be made aware that when they bend over for their mate they have a 1 in 12 chance that
their mate is HIV positive.

Education.

Stop attacking the messenger .
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August 18, 2015 8:11pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Griff
Now about that 8:27am posting….. I would like some clarification.

Was it just an example of your staccato spiel or are you joining the morning poets?

Now I know I should be a bit more au fait with the homosexual drug addict poets, but sadly that’s a part of my genteel upbringing that was neglected.

However just before I put in my proposal to Creative NZ (for $XXXXXX) I thought I’d better check with you whether your “A dawn breaker” had been inspired by William Burrough’s “Where flesh circulates”

http://realitystudio.org/texts/the-poetry-of-william-s-burroughs/where-flesh-circulates/
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August 18, 2015 8:12pm
mikenmild

You’re right Griff. The ideal Kiwiblog comment to secure upticks will be a rave incorporating the following elements:
cultural marxism
political correctness
Helen Clark
welfare dependency
global warming conspiracy
Andrew Little
corrupt trade unions
charter schools
lock ’em up longer
immigration
Islamophobia
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August 18, 2015 8:12pm
nasska

Progs Mike…..you forgot the progs! 🙂
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August 18, 2015 8:14pm
starboard

” but its really meaningless twaddle most of the time .’

err hello Mr Pot..meet Mr Kettle.

Idiot.
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August 18, 2015 8:14pm
mikenmild

I should have put that list into verse, Maggy.
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August 18, 2015 8:14pm
big bruv

Ok, on another issue chaps.

It’s now over ten yeas since I have been coming here. I can’t quite remember if it was 2004 or 2005 that I found Kiwiblog. I remember back then the left had this weird site called Kiwiblogblog, it looked exactly the same as DPF’s site but was populated by the same knuckle dragging shite that now populate the Standard and the Daily Bog.

Anyway, over that time some very good members have frequented this site, some are long gone such as Insolent prick’ who was hilarious and Clint Heine was always worth reading. Others such as the perennial parasite Phool Ure have thankfully moved on also. Some are still around, perhaps my favourite commentator of all, Dime, is still around, and, of course who can ever forget D4J and his legendary meltdowns.

One thing I will say though is this, I think I enjoyed this site more when the corrupt Helen Klark was in power, I can work up far more passion fighting against a corrupt Labour government than I can against the insipid Labour lite we have now.

So, who else has been here for at least ten years and what are your memories?
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August 18, 2015 8:15pm
mikenmild

Clint Heine was always worth reading

Link whoring much?
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August 18, 2015 8:18pm
starboard

Remember Scanner..what a weapon. Phil Ure drug addled fool , and who could forget Red and Rex Widerstrom
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August 18, 2015 8:21pm
AgentBallSack

Maggy,
I need a fuck load of drugs to understand that. Horne has ruined me I tell ya
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August 18, 2015 8:23pm
big bruv

Don’t remember Scanner. I did not include red because we all know he will be back. The guy cannot help himself, he always makes grand statements about never coming back and then reappears only to deny that he ever said he was leaving.
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August 18, 2015 8:26pm
Griff

Actually I could not give you a source Maggy. At my age and having read an reasonable amount of mostly garbage where I get a lot of things from is long forgotten in a haze of pot smoke .
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August 18, 2015 8:27pm
AgentBallSack

It says a lot about the Standard that Ure is allowed to post there. Without link whoring the best thing Whale did (pre Belt) was ban the fucktard.
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August 18, 2015 8:28pm
AgentBallSack

Mmmmm Haze of pot smoke. The cure for 80s music
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August 18, 2015 8:32pm
starboard

Gwiff ! Flashdance is on Sky..way ya go…
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August 18, 2015 8:32pm
cha

Mmm, eighties music….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyU9BVX4rEU
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August 18, 2015 8:34pm
nasska

cricko

You’re onto it. Education is the only answer short of dragging people off the street & locking them up on suspicion of being gay. That didn’t sort out many problems in Oscar Wilde’s time & it’s fairly doubtful that it would work now.

But how can we improve this education & at what level? You’re probably correct in that the message has to be hammered home before early sexual encounters or experimentation. It leaves only the schools & the parents.

Regrettably few parents are much use in this instance, mostly because they are not ready, on an emotional level, to believe that their pride & joy is taking it up the blurter. In any case the kids would be reluctant to give an indication of their sexual preferences until it was too late, knowing full well the likely impact on their parents.

So that leaves the schools & colleges. They do their best to cover all types of sexuality without making judgement calls but where does this lead? Even on these threads, not a week goes by without some religious, conservative dinosaur condemning a school system that teaches the use & application of contraceptives. As far as they are concerned the stork brings babies while family planning & disease prevention is the work of the devil.

See the problem?
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August 18, 2015 8:39pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@ Griff

I’m not putting that type of response into my learned application…
I’ll just let the literati know that I’ve discovered another idiot-savant poet on KB.
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August 18, 2015 8:39pm
Grant

There was an ultra lefty called “Sonic” I think, who had some pretty interesting views. I wonder what happened to him.
G
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August 18, 2015 8:41pm
mikenmild

Not sure about the ‘savant’ part of that description.
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August 18, 2015 8:41pm
AgentBallSack

No surprise John Campbells hero is Malcolm McLaren. Punk is about rebelling against the Establishment man! I didnt think it was about installing a worse Establishment though.
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August 18, 2015 8:44pm
EAD

MM & Griff,

There is a simple formula to getting a hugely upticked post.

Keep it short and sweet
Always attack the all encompassing term “the left”
Blame them for something from Mikeys list.
And never, ever attack National

The problem with that approach though is that is boring. I consider it a post well made if I can slam the Nats from the right and get about 40/60% uptick to downtick ratio.
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August 18, 2015 8:46pm
Griff

😆 idiot savant is an extreme of the asd thing .
Jack Kerouac did keep me amused for a while .
“The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles.”
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August 18, 2015 8:48pm
nasska

….”and get about 40% uptick to downtick ratio.”….

And a blow job from Baity.
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August 18, 2015 8:48pm
AgentBallSack

nasska, the schools that are run by luvvies that wont tell you if your 13 year old daughter has had an abortion? The Labour lovers that think parents have no right to knowledge about what their children are doing, ALA Helun? yeah, theyre great for kids.
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August 18, 2015 8:49pm
AgentBallSack

Shit. I just followed EAD’s formula. Incoming upticks in 3, 2, 1 .
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August 18, 2015 8:51pm
nasska

….” the schools that are run by luvvies that wont tell you if your 13 year old daughter has had an abortion?”…..

Their responsibility is to the kid whose life will be in danger if she comes from a strict Christian or Muslim family.
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August 18, 2015 8:54pm
cha

I wonder what happened to him.

1,995 comments and gone although his blog’s still active.
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August 18, 2015 8:54pm
EAD

This blog is worse for Reds absence. I say that as a supporter but even you guys must miss the verbal combat?

It was great entertainment and surely beats chewing the fat with Shawn and Penny or talking amongst yourself in a circle jerk…. …..
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August 18, 2015 8:55pm
AgentBallSack

EAD only if you think you were combating an equal. Red was great at calling people ‘fucking progs’ and dismissing anything he didnt believe in. Now his multis are gone, liberal agendas are more frequently down ticked. Of course if he wants to come back and assert that he has never used multis, and get the associated 27 upticks we are all here. Failing that I hear the left love him lately.
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August 18, 2015 9:04pm
Griff

Some of the reasons they dont tell is in the real world some kids will end up dead.(Muslims ) shipped back to the islands or beaten and enslaved for life if parents are told.
Or the child will have no choice but to do what the parent or family says.
Often the only ones who are thinking of the kids are the school staff .
Kids in that situation still have to go though the process that involves convincing a series of doctors that an abortion will result in less harm than having the child.
Not easy process for an teenage girl .
School councilors would usually prefer to inform the family but it is the needs of the child that is the first priority for them not the needs of the parents .
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August 18, 2015 9:05pm
Manolo

I agree with you, EAD: Redbaiter was a very good contributor. I hope he comes back.
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August 18, 2015 9:07pm
AgentBallSack

nasska are you saying that someones life would be in danger because they had hormones? Gotta love our religioconservative nutter neighbours. I am a parent – my daughter can talk about her life. Would I ever get angry at her choices, for sure! But I wouldn’t kill her or make her a pariah for them. Personally I would rather know where my child was in her understanding of life
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August 18, 2015 9:10pm
Manolo

A fan bites the bullet. Will stephieboy do the same?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/17/hillary-clinton-white-house-too-much-baggage

Reality must be looked in the eye. Clinton is a hugely divisive figure, including within her own party – and not primarily because she is a woman. There is the clan question.

What does it say about the meritocratic credentials of the United States that two of the most favoured candidates for 2016 are closely related to recent presidents? Neither is to blame but in my book, this alone would be a reason for both Clinton and Jeb Bush to leave the field. It is also a reason why they may not be electable.
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August 18, 2015 9:10pm
nasska

AgentBallSack

Read Griff’s 9.05pm. He hasn’t overstated the problem even slightly. Consider also who probably got the 13 year old pregnant in the first place…..there’s a good chance he’ll be older, related & living at the same address.

Don’t let the love you have for your daughter blind you to the sheer dysfunctional hellholes that some kids are brought/dragged up in. Alcohol, religion. violence…..it’s all there & maybe not so far distant as you think.
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August 18, 2015 9:23pm
Griff

It actually works both ways sometimes the child is intent on keeping the baby yet knows the family would force her to abort.

it is the child who takes priority for the school social staff not the parents wishes.

The idiot woman who started the inquiry really should look at her parenting failures rather than blame the school for her dysfunctional relationship with her daughter.

If they do manage to change a law that is stood since the seventy’s we will see a resurgence in knitting needle abortions and other horrors of the past.
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August 18, 2015 9:43pm
cha

Arseholes.

GOP presidential candidate and former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee said that he supports the decision to deny an abortion to a 10-year-old rape victim in Paraguay.

http://time.com/3999799/mike-huckabee-abortion-rape/
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August 18, 2015 9:53pm
publicwatchdog

Remember this Kiwibloggers?

When is Prime Minister John Key going to stand down the, in my opinion, Minister for Bribery. Murray McCully?
———————————————————————–

Cabinet Minister Phil Heatley quits
|
Last updated 15:42 25/02/2010

Prime Minister John Key is not ruling out Phil Heatley returning to Cabinet, but is waiting to see if a high level investigation clears him.

An emotional Mr Heatley this morning resigned his housing and fisheries portfolios over misspending the taxpayers’ money and making a wrongful declaration.

Mr Heatley’s accounts have gone to Auditor-General Lyn Provost for analysis and she has also been tasked with working with Ministerial Services to improve the systems and processes around ministerial expenses.

The resignation was over Mr Heatley signing an expense claim for a dinner when in fact the $70 charge was for bottles of wine at a National Party function. It followed other revelations of misspending this week.

Mr Key said that after discussing the issue with Mr Heatley yesterday he recommended Mr Heatley stand down. But Mr Heatley insisted on resigning.

“When the Auditor-General’s report comes back at that point, I will reflect on it but I am not closing the door to him going back. That’s possible,” Mr Key told reporters this afternoon. …..”

Penny Bright
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August 18, 2015 9:59pm
cha

If they do manage to change a law that is stood since the seventy’s we will see a resurgence in knitting needle abortions and other horrors of the past.

Yup, and I reckon there’s more than a few really do want to return to those days because SEX.

https://archive.org/details/when_abortion_was_illegal

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/02/Gerri_Santoro_%281964%29.jpg
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August 18, 2015 9:59pm
cricko

I have nothing personal against male homosexuals.

It’s just what they do with each other that seems contratdictory to nature.

And I believe that the more we OK and normalise homoism the more we weaken our own society and give creedence to islam.

Imagine two equal groups of say, parameciums (maybe paramecia)

One homosexual, the other heterosexual.

Which group will prevail in the long run ?

Which group has a future.

Which group will nature eventually eliminate through natural selection ?
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August 18, 2015 10:08pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@cricko

re mummy & daddy paramecia …..
don’t think it quite works that way for these little beasties….
https://www.ebiomedia.com/the-biology-classics-paramecium-reproduction.html
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August 18, 2015 10:15pm
Viking2

Drivers caught over the new but under the old breath alcohol limit account for almost a third of drink driving offences since the law change.

The latest police figures also showed the number of people recorded drink driving at higher levels plummeting.

The limit was cut from 400 micrograms of alcohol per litre of breath to 250mcg at the beginning of December 2014.

In the first month, 806 people were caught out, but that number has dropped steadily and was 638 in June.

Police have issued 4917 infringement notices to motorists caught between the new and old limits since the new limit was introduced.

In that same period people blew over the old 400mcg limit 10,081 times.

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Well call me surprised.
This revelation comes just a few days after the police admitted they were targeting functions rather than the previous stop anywhere booze bus stops.

So no random stops on busy roads but the worst offenders are no longer being caught.

It’s spurious to think that drink drivers have changed their habits because those that drive these things changed the limit.

Duuur.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/71189450/drink-driver-numbers-drop-but-more-caught-over-new-lower-limit

There can be no like for like comparison because the police have changed their methods as well as the Limits.
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August 19, 2015 5:29am
Manolo

Surprise after surprise, lie after lie: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3201367/Hillary-s-email-firm-run-loft-apartment-servers-BATHROOM-raising-new-questions-security-sensitive-messages-held.html
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August 19, 2015 6:14am
Manolo

The repressive Chinese regime does not muck around: http://news.yahoo.com/chinese-police-arrest-15-000-internet-crimes-124628954.html

Police in China said on Tuesday they had arrested about 15,000 people for crimes that “jeopardized Internet security”, as the government moves to tighten controls on the Internet.
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