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nasska

….” Do I see a discharge without conviction looming?”….

How could you be so insensitive? As one of the ‘special people’ Mr Tau will probably attend court in a cloak of kiwi feathers to receive his apology from the Crown for attempting to interfere with his traditional diet.
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July 3, 2015 5:39pm
Shawn Herles

I think mike was responding to hj’s “what if someone marries a horse argument.”

My response to hj was a little more polite.
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July 3, 2015 5:42pm
thedavincimode

My own personal point of view is that a human is made at conception. Seems logical.

Wrong. Life only commences at conception in wildlife programs. Simba the lioness; Oworo the chimpanzee; Salmmy the salmon – that sort of stuff. Different rules apply to homo sapiens.
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July 3, 2015 5:42pm
thedavincimode

nasska

He certainly won’t be attending in a cloak of Kereru feathers.
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July 3, 2015 5:44pm
nasska

True Davinci….that might be pushing the waka a bit too far out even for a member of the ‘special’ race.
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July 3, 2015 5:49pm
Awww C-mon

@biscuit

“Aw, c’mon, you lot, less than 33.5 hours until the greatest event in the history of mankind* and 90% of the posts are people badmouthing each other?”

Don’t bring me into this! the bad mouthing or the under achievers finally achieving!
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July 3, 2015 5:50pm
thedavincimode

Evening minus. Another bad day?
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July 3, 2015 5:50pm
thedavincimode

nasska

… as I type … minus hasn’t spotted your post but don’t feel slighted …

Late breaking news: thanks for coming to the party minus.
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July 3, 2015 5:52pm
Shawn Herles

Debunking the myth of Jewish communism.

“The myth of an international Jewish communist conspiracy has long been a central diet of anti-Semitic agendas, most notably in Hitler’s program of ideological genocide. The Dutch academic Andre Gerrits provides a dispassionate and balanced account of this contentious topic.”

http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=19150
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July 3, 2015 5:53pm
nasska

I shouldn’t worry Davinci…..the gift of the downvote probably brings meaning to the life of some poor neglected soul.

What you reckon Dad? 🙂
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July 3, 2015 5:54pm
Shawn Herles

Minus is Bob. He as much admitted so last night. Could be time for a blog exorcism! 🙂
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July 3, 2015 5:56pm
thedavincimode

Nothing planned for TV tonight Shawn? Just a guess in light of your 5:53 pm.
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July 3, 2015 5:56pm
Awww C-mon

“I would have thought it would be tough for a kid have two mummy’s or two daddies (like being a boy called Sue)? When I went to school kids were sensitive as to what your father did?

My best mate at primary and through high school had two mums and a dad who had buggered off, yeah kids were cruel, but more about his mums mustache than her girlfriend.
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July 3, 2015 5:56pm
thedavincimode

Wow!! I was starting to feel a bit special for a moment there nasska but your 5:54pm got nailed in triple quick time. Impressive 😆 What’s your secret?
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July 3, 2015 5:58pm
Shawn Herles

“Nothing planned for TV tonight Shawn? Just a guess in light of your 5:53 pm.”

I’m still going to represent my view on the issue, I’m just not going to engage directly with Reid.

And yes, the latest episode of Hannibal is up, and my wife is out for the evening, so it’s serial killer tv for me tonight. 🙂
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July 3, 2015 5:58pm
nasska

I know what you mean Awww C-mon.

You compliment someone on their moustache & all of a sudden she’s not your friend any more. 🙂
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July 3, 2015 5:59pm
thedavincimode

Minus is Bob.

Bob?
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July 3, 2015 6:01pm
nasska

Shawn

….”Minus is Bob. He as much admitted so last night”…

Who’s Bob….I must have missed something?
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July 3, 2015 6:01pm
Shawn Herles

“You compliment someone on their moustache & all of a sudden she’s not your friend any more.”

Well, it’s better than having to compliment her for a full beard! 🙂
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July 3, 2015 6:01pm
Awww C-mon

@nasska

tell a 16 year old his mums mo is better than his causes issues too 😉
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July 3, 2015 6:01pm
thedavincimode

nasska

It can’t be dad4Deliverance. It’s Friday night – he’ll be down at the pub trying to wash the stench of foot odour out of his nostrils and telling everyone about outplaying Jack Hobbs and gliding with Ritchie.
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July 3, 2015 6:03pm
Shawn Herles

“Who’s Bob….I must have missed something?”

Whenever there are nefarious goings on behind the scenes, it’s Bob. Bob is a very dangerous demon who lives in a place called the Black Lodge. In the guise of her father, he murdered a high school girl a while back. I think her name was Laura Palmer.

No way a normal human being can downtick that fast!
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July 3, 2015 6:04pm
Shawn Herles

See? 🙂
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July 3, 2015 6:07pm
nasska

….” Bob is a very dangerous demon who lives in a place called the Black Lodge.”….

I didn’t want to be the one who had to tell you this Shawn but you’ve been dabbling in the supernatural for too long & it’s starting to show.

Put down the Holy Water & the stake & step back from the coffin! 🙂
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July 3, 2015 6:08pm
Shawn Herles

Actually in this case nasska, the problem is being a David Lynch fan. So, possibly too much Twin Peaks!
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July 3, 2015 6:10pm
Shawn Herles

Hey, I was just able to give myself an uptick! How the hell did that happen?

Felt good too! 🙂
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July 3, 2015 6:11pm
thedavincimode

nasska

Just gave you a downy for your 5:59pm because I racked up such an speedy impressive score with my 5:56 pm and 6:01 pm – I don’t want you feeling left out or ignored.
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July 3, 2015 6:13pm
nasska

Thanks Davinci. I value inclusiveness. 🙂
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July 3, 2015 6:15pm
Shawn Herles

“Thanks Davinci. I value inclusiveness. ”

You hippy! 😉
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July 3, 2015 6:19pm
Manolo

The SNP leader stirs the pot again: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3147966/Sturgeon-threatens-new-independence-referendum-SNP-clash-Tories-English-votes-English-laws-plan.html

The SNP threatened a new independence referendum last night as Tory plans for ‘English votes for English laws’ descended into acrimony.

Amid heckling and shouting in the Commons, ministers said English MPs would be given an effective ‘veto’ over laws which relate to their constituents alone.
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July 3, 2015 6:21pm
thedavincimode

Oops, no need to 😆 Your 5:59pm is now at 4. DAMN!!
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July 3, 2015 6:22pm
thedavincimode

You think the old homo has cranked up the proxy server Grief?

… 3, 2, 1, …
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July 3, 2015 6:24pm
Griff

Its Russel.
Its part 3/b on page six of his nefarious plan to take over the New Zealand political landscape.
While he has the commie cowardly Marxist hillbilly dope smoking rino progs quaking in fear of the great and dastardly down tick he is going to drive his mobility scooter down the northern Toll road
With out even paying as it is not registered.
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July 3, 2015 6:24pm
Griff

hah fooled you minus
Where has your down tick gone?
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July 3, 2015 6:25pm
nasska

He’s got to get to his job on the waterfront somehow Griff. The high heels make it hard to walk & it’s a long way from the pensioner flats.
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July 3, 2015 6:25pm
thedavincimode

.. spooky … how did that happen? Are you travelling through time now Grief?

Edit: good one 😆
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July 3, 2015 6:25pm
Shawn Herles

Those would be steel capped high heels naaska, so he can give the elderly progs a good kicking!
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July 3, 2015 6:27pm
Manolo

Running out of cash in Greece: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11714655/Greek-banks-down-to-500m-in-cash-reserves-as-economy-crashes.html

500m in cash reserves as economy crashes. The daily allowance of cash from many ATM machines has already dropped from €60 to €50, purportedly because €20 notes are running out.
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July 3, 2015 6:27pm
nasska

Not really Shawn…..the theory is that he wears six inch stilettos to lure the punters in for a good cheap blow job. 🙂
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July 3, 2015 6:31pm
Shawn Herles

“the theory is that he wears six inch stilettos to lure the punters in for a good cheap blow job.”

That’s an image I really didn’t need in my head!

*shudder*
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July 3, 2015 6:33pm
Awww C-mon

@Naaska

Not really Shawn…..the theory is that he wears six inch stilettos to lure the punters in for a good cheap blow job.

Downtick for simply putting that image into my head.
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July 3, 2015 6:43pm
RF

I see one of our role model ex ABs has been locked up by the Welsh Police for sexual assault. This guy has form for pissing on patrons in Auckland bars so not a nice person.

Oh dear… What would his mother think of this.
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July 3, 2015 6:45pm
Awww C-mon

who called him a role model RF? charged not locked up.
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July 3, 2015 6:58pm
Reid

It should go without saying that nobody has a completely accurate count of the dead. But over the years, the impact of a corporate media and National Security State have taken their toll on the truth, warping it to imply that relatively few people have died in America’s phony “War on Terrorism.”

The charge of a cover-up by the mass media seems obvious, as it is unconscionable that major media, a multi-billion dollar industry, could not find the numbers if they made even a feeble attempt. It seems obvious as well that such numbers would shock the public and turn them against the wars, which probably explains the silence of the mainstream, which is in line with their avid war support and simply echoes the words of General Tommy Franks that “We don’t do body counts.”

It is of course the hate-filled neocons who started this, and they continue to spread this poison across the globe. I can’t wait for the day all you insomnolent fools finally wake up to the evil you’ve been ignoring all these decades. Of course I expect to be long dead by then, but at least I’ll be pleading to my judge, I told them Lord, they didn’t listen. Whereas what will you all be doing?

http://thiscantbehappening.net/node/2793
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July 3, 2015 7:03pm
Viking2

A woman is at home when she hears someone knocking at her door. She opens it and sees a man standing there. He asks the lady, “Do you have a Vagina?” She slams the door in disgust.
The next morning she hears a knock at the door, it’s the same man and he again asks the woman, “Do you have a Vagina?” She slams the door again.
Later that night when her husband gets home she tells him what has happened for the last two days. The husband tells his wife in a loving and concerned voice, “Honey, I am taking off tomorrow so as to be home, just in case this guy shows up again.”
The next morning they hear a knock at the door. The husband whispers to the wife, “Honey, I’m going to hide behind the door and listen and if it is the same guy I want you to answer yes to the question because I want to see where he’s going with this.”
She nods to her husband and opens the door. Sure enough the same fellow is standing there, he asks, “Do you have a Vagina?” “Yes I do.” says the lady.
The man replies, “Good, would you mind telling your husband to leave my wife’s alone and start using yours!”
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July 3, 2015 7:16pm
Viking2

Sweden’s central bank has taken its main policy rate deeper into negative and uncharted territory, citing growing economic uncertainty and worries about Greece. The Riksbank has cut its main interest rate by 10bp to -0.35%, in an attempt to stop deflation. Denmark and Switzerland also have negative rates.

http://www.interest.co.nz/news/76326/chinese-military-protect-overseas-interests-sweden-slashes-interest-rates-new-imf-report
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Are we going to see the same???
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July 3, 2015 7:21pm
Shawn Herles

“Why Anti-Semites Are Just Plain Dumb”

“While there’s always room for political disagreement, and certainly Israel has made some decisions that you could take exception to, there’s simply no place in civil society for morons who blindly hate Jewish people or try to make Israel the scapegoat for the world’s troubles.

There are many adjectives that could be applied here, but anti-Semites’ tiny brains would be unable to process them, so to all the Jew-hating subhumans out there on the Internet and in the real world I simply say, you’re dumb.

Unfortunately, you’re not mute. Most of you have mouths that never stop working. But what really grinds my corn is that so many of you dare to call yourselves Christians while spouting your anti-Jewish venom.

Let’s be clear. I don’t care what you’ve been taught, either by your friends, family or pastor. You cannot be any kind of Christian and be an anti-Semite.

There’s a very simple reason for that, which even cerebrally challenged neo-Nazis should be able to grasp.

Jesus was a Jew.

He was born a Jew.

He was raised a Jew.

He died a Jew, with a sign above his head which read, “Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews.”

His family were all Jewish.

His apostles were Jewish.

Jesus lived his life as a Jew.

He went to temple.

He read the Torah.

He celebrated Passover.

He celebrated Hanukkah (the Feast of Dedication).

He followed the Mosaic Law.

Neither Jesus nor any of the Apostles ever rejected their Jewish heritage. By the way, that scene in the courtyard that all you skinhead types claim is a curse on Jews? That curse refers specifically to those Jewish lackeys of the high priest who were screaming for Jesus’ crucifixion, not to the Jewish people. That single lie has resulted in countless deaths. Anyone who repeats it deserves a one-way ticket to an extremely warm climate.

And while we’re debunking historical lies, all those anti-Jewish quotes you clowns keep attributing to George Washington, Ben Franklin and various Founding Fathers? Those were fabricated in the 1930s by an American pro-Nazi group calling themselves the Silvershirts.

The real Founding Fathers had no such bias that’s been recorded. Ben Franklin made it a point to be on good terms with all the churches and synagogues in whatever town he found himself in.

Many of those patriots who helped fight the Revolution were Jewish. The Revolution never could even have succeeded without the help of Haym Solomon, who used his personal fortune and financial connections to pay for much of the Continental Army’s needs, from food and equipment to salaries.

Membership in the Christian Church, regardless of denomination, isn’t dependent on whether you were baptized, say your prayers regularly, attend the right church, or have the right views about the Bible. It’s dependent on you expressing your faith and following in Christ’s footsteps. Jesus was particularly tough on those who only gave lip service to being his followers.

Killing Jews, supporting those who killed Jews, espousing anti-Jewish, anti-Israel views — those aren’t Christ’s footsteps you’re following, they’re Satan’s.”

http://godfatherpolitics.com/13436/anti-semites-just-plain-dumb/
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July 3, 2015 7:28pm
stephieboy

Reid, on the contrary there has been a big attempt by a variety of agencies including the UN , wiki leaks, Lancet and the Iraqi government itself to document and record the total military and civil casualties in the Iraq war 2003 – 2008.

The best assessment and one subject exhaustive collection and analysis of total injuries and deaths is the Iraq is a total of 216 ,000 deaths ,

https://www.iraqbodycount.org

Unfortunately propaganda aims and distortions are not confined to MSM and Neo cons but are equally persuive in BS sites like Global Research , Prison Planet , Information clearing house etc, etc
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July 3, 2015 7:31pm
Shawn Herles

“Unfortunately propaganda aims and distortions are not confined to MSM and Neo cons but are equally persuive in BS sites like Global Research , Prison Planet , Information clearing house etc, etc”

I’m sure Reid will have plenty of time to think about that stephie, when he’s roasting in Hell with his best friends Adolf and Satan.
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July 3, 2015 7:34pm
nasska

….”I’m sure Reid will have plenty of time to think about that stephie, when he’s roasting in Hell with his best friends Adolf and Satan.”….

A trifle judgemental there Shawn. I thought you people tended to leave it to Skydaddy to decide who went where in the next life.
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July 3, 2015 7:52pm
doggone7

RF @6:45 pm

Been locked up by the Welsh Police as he has been charged with sexual assault.
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July 3, 2015 7:54pm
stigie

Evening Mad Dad, hows it hanging ?
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July 3, 2015 8:04pm
stigie

Fucking Bob is quick….?
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July 3, 2015 8:08pm
sam green

@ Reid 7:03

Ummmmm. If you were insomnolent, you’d already be awake wouldn’t you?
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July 3, 2015 8:15pm
Griff

He sits there all night in his undies just refreshing and waiting stigie.
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July 3, 2015 8:17pm
Awww C-mon

@doggone

charged, defending. Appearing in August. Nowhere does it say locked up

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/69929526/mils-muliaina-charged-with-sexual-assault
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July 3, 2015 8:18pm
Brigitte

Q: What do you call Wgtn pensioners rushing to the Caketin?
A: The Hurry Canes

Q: What do you call pot smoking passengers from Dunedin when they arrive at Wgtn airport?
A: The high landers

Q: Why won’t any supporters arrive by ship?
A: Because there will be no cruise aiders to help them find their way!
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July 3, 2015 8:19pm
stigie

Well, you would think at least he would have a decent pair of shoes Griff ?
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July 3, 2015 8:22pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z8dbav5ewivbgt0/Wankstain%2011%208%2014.gif?dl=0
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July 3, 2015 8:25pm
Reid

A trifle judgemental there Shawn. I thought you people tended to leave it to Skydaddy to decide who went where in the next life.

The real ones do nasska. The fake ones? Well, they don’t care about Jesus’ judgement, they prefer to live in this world and big note themselves here. Just like the pharisees did.

Ummmmm. If you were insomnolent, you’d already be awake wouldn’t you?

sam, excellent spotting and yes of course I was completely wrong.
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July 3, 2015 8:25pm
stigie

Such happiness, brings tears to the eyes !

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/New+Zealand+Labour+Party+Launch+Their+Election+614P0mOSdyal.jpg
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July 3, 2015 8:35pm
Reid

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2015/06/29/big-money-pump-and-dump-as-a-way-of-life/

Now imagine this pump and dump strategy applied to companies. Better yet, imagine it applied to a number of companies within a given industry all at once.

This is euphemistically called a bubble.

For instance, the dot-com bubble of the 1990s. The conventional wisdom was, overenthusiastic investors jumped on the new Internet dot-com bandwagon, put money into every crazy company they could find in this sector, all the companies were vastly overvalued, and then came the crash.

Of course, this was a false picture. Insiders propagandized the (false) worth of the dot-com sector, pumped the stocks, lured mad investors and speculators to the table, created a top, and then busted it, causing a collapse. Then, the insiders bought up these companies (the outfits that had useful technology) for pennies on the dollar…and began a second trip up the ladder…this time with a seriousness of purpose and the intent to create a viable dot-com sector. Which they did.

The same thing has happened to the “genetic sector…”

Most people don’t know, Greenspan dropped the interest rates to near zero thus never allowed the dot bomb bubble to work its way out of the system, and that was the genesis of the property bubble, which Bush promoted. Punch and Judy. They work together.

Such happiness, brings tears to the eyes !

Oh yes. Their years and years and years together as a couple has just made them into a single organism, the love and empathy for each other just radiates from every pore.
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July 3, 2015 8:39pm
Dennis Horne

The was a “born again” called Shawn
Whose fellowship with Reid was torn
It became boring to read
Page after page of screed
And the regulars were forlorn
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July 3, 2015 8:40pm
nasska

….”Oh yes. Their years and years and years together as a couple has just made them into a single organism, the love and empathy for each other just radiates from every pore.”….

Shades of ‘Sphodromantis viridis’ Reid? 🙂
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July 3, 2015 8:46pm
Reid

I just think of the reports about the enormous dildo builders found under the bed when they were renovating their Mt Eden villa nasska, and think: goodness, how peculiar.

And we still know nothing about LA do we.

That’s pretty peculiar too.

There’s probably a good story there, for some journalist, prepared to do their job. Pity we don’t appear to have any, isn’t it.
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July 3, 2015 8:49pm
cha

Too big to fail and couldn’t win a fight.

“Insufficient pitch rate.” “Energy deficit to the bandit would increase over time.” “The flying qualities in the blended region (20–26 degrees AoA) were not intuitive or favorable.”

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/test-pilot-admits-the-f-35-can-t-dogfight-cdb9d11a875
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July 3, 2015 8:54pm
cha

Dildo at 10 o’clock!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Xkw5qZxdo
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July 3, 2015 8:56pm
nasska

The missed opportunities cha…..

….think how that could have livened up Colin Craig’s press conferences. 🙂
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July 3, 2015 8:58pm
stigie

“And we still know nothing about LA do we”.

We are led to believe Dad knows something about this to everyones amazement Reid !~
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July 3, 2015 9:01pm
Reid

We are led to believe Dad knows something about this to everyones amazement Reid !~

I reckon it should be law stigie in all Westminster democracies that after twenty years all the DPS team reports will be released with no redactions and it shall be a crime requiring 50 years imprisonment with no parole to falsify or omit relevant details therein.

And if a manager or anyone else with influence attempts to interfere with the accuracy of said reports they will be stripped naked, put in stocks, and made available for “entertainment” purposes in every single prison in the land, for the next ten years, after which their 50 year no parole prison term will commence.

I think that’d give the public some pretty good insights into our senior leadership team.
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July 3, 2015 9:07pm
Reid

Dildo at 10 o’clock!

That bodyguard was pretty good wasn’t he. Shame he didn’t draw his weapon and blast it tho.

I wonder what the UN Security Council would think about Murray making that a part of his opening presso?

Global headlines guaranteed.

See what that does for the global dairy trade prices.
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July 3, 2015 9:15pm
nasska

I get where you’re coming from Reid but I’m uncertain that we would gain much from knowing the peccadilloes of the spouses or families of our public figures.

The lives of the actual parliamentarians & mandarins however, should be unmercifully exposed to ensure that no possible double standards exist. They who dictate our behaviour deserve no less.
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July 3, 2015 9:15pm
Reid

Agree nasska. Families are off limits. Not even mentioned in the reports the public get to see. Unless….

How would deal with an LA situation.

But…

As far as I’m concerned politicians themselves aren’t entitled to any, and if they engage, that’s game over, trust-wise.

I know it happens, but if you can’t be trusted in a little, then you can’t be trusted in a lot.

And if you can’t even hold yourself sexually in check as an adult, WTF qualifications do you have to run anything, let alone something important.

Period.

Bottom line for me nasska.

The fact affairs have existed throughout history doesn’t change that position, and why should it.
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July 3, 2015 9:18pm
publicwatchdog

FYI Kiwibloggers ….

PROTEST! 4 July Independence from USA / TPPA CORPORATE CONTROL of NZ!

Send US Vice-President Joe Biden back a message he cannot ignore!

US Vice-President Joe Biden has sent an unprecedented
message to New Zealanders

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/69910752/us-vicepresident-joe-biden-sends-nz-an-independence-day-message

Thinking, aware New Zealanders don’t want a BAR of the TPPA and corporate enslavement of our country and our people!

SEIZE THE MOMENT!!

STAND UP AND BE COUNTED!!

NO! NO! NO WAY JOE!
THE TPPA HAS GOT TO GO!

WHEN: Saturday 4 July 2015

TIME: 3 – 5pm

WHERE: Outside US Consulatei
23 Customs Street
Auckland City
________________________________________________

Forwarded in the public interest by Penny Bright.
_______________________________________________
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July 3, 2015 9:55pm
Awww C-mon

Protest against dumb-arse wannabee’s getting the way of the TPPA more like!

Will you opt out of sharing in the proceeds of the trade benefits we will get just like you opt out of paying your rates Penny???

No didnt think so
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July 3, 2015 10:08pm
Sponge

Awww C-mon,

Well it has to be said that now the lying, rates bludging, hypocritical lawbreaker is on the case the TPPA must be doomed! The ghastly harridan chanting outside the US Consulate will make a HUGE impact of course.

Don’t forget that she has had such a positive affect on other crusades she has taken up. Just ask the “Occupy” rabble what they think of her contribution.
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July 3, 2015 10:25pm
publicwatchdog

How are YOU going to benefit from the TPPA anonymous AwwwC’mon?

Or are you just another nameless, shameless ‘spin doctor’?

If it is supposed to be the will of the people that is the basis of the authority of government – how come the text of the TPPA is hidden from the public?

What happened to ‘nothing to hide – nothing to fear’?

What’s in the TPPA that’s good for NZ companies, let alone the NZ people?

Under Bank of America shareholder NZ Prime Minister John Key – is NZ turning into the 51st State of America?

What happened to NZ being an independent, sovereign nation, as opposed to a snivelling lap dog of USA corporate interests?

How many Kiwis are happy with THAT?

I for one am not and tomorrow – I’ll be there – outside the US Consulate – letting my banners/ placards ‘do the talking’.

Penny Bright

Proudly INDEPENDENT New Zealander.
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July 3, 2015 10:34pm
Awww C-mon

You are onto something Sponge!!!

Penny, go with my blessing and screech all you like! take the screaming skull and get him ranting too!

That’s sure to push the TPP through
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July 3, 2015 10:35pm
publicwatchdog

Helped to win the Occupy Auckland vs Auckland Council Appeal anonymous Sponge.

Suck THAT up – as it were 🙂

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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July 3, 2015 10:38pm
Awww C-mon

How will I benefit:

In many ways Penny, firstly the increase in trade and removal of barriers will be beneficial to the entire economy, one of the interesting benefits of the TPP will be allowing NZ dairy companies to sell high value product into markets currently closed. Isn’t that something the left always demand? It will also open trade in other area’s like aquaculture, forestry, viticulture and increased opportunities for meat, again as the left cry for.

What happened to hard negotiations in private to ensure the best deal for NZ? Like Labour did with China, did you protest that Penny?

Whats actually in the TPP that’s harmful Penny. Nothing you’ve seen or you wouldn’t be complaining about it being so secretive so don’t try and bullshit me!

I am pro US, as anyone with a clue of history and loyalty to friends would be, I won’t try to explain loyalty and honesty though Penny, you never actually worked those concepts out did you.

We are independent Penny, proudly so. Why is it you only see that when it suits you?

Will you ever apologise for lying about John Banks Penny?
Will you pay your rates Penny ?
Will you answer straight questions Penny?
Do you get angry and bitter when folk on here call you out and you know you cant answer?

Isnt it a shame when the persona takes over the person Penny, remember kiwis are kind and forgiving folk, even if you aren’t and would not hold a grudge if you just admitted you are wrong and said sorry.
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July 3, 2015 10:52pm
Sponge

Awww C-mon,

Penny is such a fundamentally dishonest person that your questions @ 10:52 will never be properly addressed. She is so dishonest she even lies to herself – pretending that she makes a difference when even blind Freddy could see that she is a laughing stock (and of course a liar, hypocrite, rates bludger and lawbreaker).
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July 3, 2015 10:59pm
Awww C-mon

Sponge

Yeah I know, thanks though
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