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General Debate 12 July 2015

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Fletch

Fletch, was the women shot and killed by the illegal immigrant personally known to the President or members of his administration.

Yet it is surprising that every time a black person gets shot by a white person, President Obama injects himself into the situation, making a statement etc. Yet on the shooting of this woman – nothing. And nothing when a white man was beaten to a pulp by black assailants on July 4th. Or when another man was brutally beaten by 40 black thugs at a rap concert.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/07/08/police-will-seek-hate-crime-charges-fountain-square-attack/29867779/

http://conservativeangle.com/sick-white-man-brutally-beaten-by-gang-of-40-blacks-at-hip-hop-concert-no-media-outrage/

The media only cares when black people are beaten or shot by white people and black folks riot about it. Do you see any white people rioting over this other shooting? Or the other racist beatings?
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July 12, 2015 3:09pm
Komata

Fletch

It’s all part of the left-wing (liberal) democrat / socialist’s agenda; Divide, disrupt, then ‘impose’ ‘To save the people from themselves’. It’s worked before, but this time a few more are awake to what is being done. Can’t say they will be able to change much, but at least they can slow it down…
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July 12, 2015 3:15pm
Shawn Herles

Father of Young Man Murdered by Illegal Immigrant Blasts Obama.

” Jamiel Shaw’s 17-year-old son was gunned down in 2008 by an illegal immigrant who had just been released from jail the day before.

Shaw said to Pete Hegseth that it’s “mind-boggling” that Obama can speak out about incidents in Baltimore and Ferguson, but remain silent on murders committed by illegal immigrants, such as those of his son and Kate Steinle.

“Everyone’s not for illegal immigration,” Shaw said. “So if he’s gonna force it down our throats with executive orders, the least he can do is make sure no one is murdered by illegal aliens.”

“He should ask himself, he should soul-search himself and say what would he do if someone murdered his child?” Shaw said. “What would he expect from politicians, from the government, if his child was murdered?”

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/07/11/father-young-man-murdered-illegal-immigrant-blasts-obama

By the way, Jamie Shaw was black, but Obama is silent because he was not killed by a white person. Obama only gives a shit about black victims when he and Al Sharpton can make an anti-white riot out of it.
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July 12, 2015 3:27pm
cha

Do you see any white people rioting over this other shooting?

White people don’t riot, white people stage unruly protests and clash with police when kidfucker enablers are sacked or their sports teams win or lose.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States#2010s
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July 12, 2015 3:27pm
UglyTruth

It’s all part of the left-wing (liberal) democrat / socialist’s agenda; Divide, disrupt, then ‘impose’

The same pattern applies to the Nats vs Labour (+Greens) politicking. Whichever way it swings the Crown wins.

Arguing that the Crown promotes socialism is easy based on the similarities between socialism and statism:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/statism

concentration of economic controls and planning in the hands of a highly centralized government often extending to government ownership of industry
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July 12, 2015 3:47pm
Reid

Zionism is bullshit:

Zionism is bullshit. Three thousand years ago my Celtic ancestors were casting sacred swords into the lakes of Switzerland. Can I go back and claim Switzerland? No. Of course not. It’s nonsense.

I am rather proud of that critique, which still seems to me a short and elegant refutation of the basis of Zionism. I have never seen it answered with anything approaching intellectual success. I am especially proud as it came to me in a moment of inspiration, in the final 12 seconds of an allocated three minute speech to a crowd that stretched further than I could see.
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July 12, 2015 3:48pm
Shawn Herles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF-QIJyLhKQ
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July 12, 2015 4:16pm
cha

Losers!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5ra9cXx1-o
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July 12, 2015 4:21pm
Shawn Herles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhmAJK8ys14
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July 12, 2015 4:25pm
Shawn Herles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4e5Q1T-AqA
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July 12, 2015 4:27pm
Shawn Herles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0EYIyIaQwE
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July 12, 2015 4:31pm
Shawn Herles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIZrVOmawPY
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July 12, 2015 4:35pm
Odakyu-sen

Okay Shawn,

Where are all the rest of the videos links that you are sitting on?
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July 12, 2015 4:40pm
publicwatchdog

I’m hoping to get a reply from Fonterra tomorrow to my simple question:

Are Fonterra representatives able to see the TPPA text?

How else can they be sure that Minister of Trade Tim Groser is negotiating a good deal for the NZ dairy industry?

Penny Bright
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July 12, 2015 4:42pm
Manolo

I’m hoping to get a reply from Auckland City Council to my simple question:

Are your representatioves ready to auction off the property of Miss Dim, well-known rate bludger?

How else can they be sure that Mayor Len Lecher Brown is negotiating a good deal for the long-suffering Auckland ratepayer?
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July 12, 2015 4:48pm
UglyTruth

First falsehood from Shawn’s 4:35 video: “Zionism is a very hot issue because you know in 1948 the state of Israel was re-established.”

It was established, not re-established. In 1948 the nation and kingdom of Israel had a historical existence, but the state of Israel did not, because historical Israel never had a civil government. Historical Israel was established with the patriarchs, but the Zionist state was established with Herzl.

state, adjective

1. of, provided by, or concerned with the civil government of a country

dictionary.search.yahoo.com
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July 12, 2015 4:58pm
Colville

When I see Shawn Vs Ugly having a ‘debate” I picture two chaps, one on either side of the same brick wall taking turns at banging their heads against it.
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July 12, 2015 5:02pm
nasska

…..”When I see Shawn Vs Ugly having a ‘debate” I picture two chaps, one on either side of the same brick wall taking turns at banging their heads against it.”…..

While they post endless long winded, mind-numbingly boring video links to the spectacle! 🙂
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July 12, 2015 5:07pm
Colville

Ms Bright.
As we know the Labour party has deserted voters outside of the 4 major centers and only National really gives a fuck about people that actually make or grow stuff you can bet National really really cares that they dont piss off the approx 50,000 who work directly in the dairy industry. So lets assume Fonterra cant/wont/dont need to know whats going on, its in safe hands of people that care and know what they are doing.
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July 12, 2015 5:09pm
Colville

nasska
Get much snow?
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July 12, 2015 5:10pm
nasska

About 50mm Colville….a bit more on the ridges but it hasn’t stuck around.
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July 12, 2015 5:14pm
SGA

@Shawn Herles
Three hours (close enough) of video opinion pieces showing us why Israel is important to you?
tl;dw
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July 12, 2015 5:23pm
Jacob

Colville – So lets assume Fonterra cant/wont/dont need to know whats going on, its in safe hands of people that care and know what they are doing.

Bullshit.
This is the first question Labour should have been asking.
I look forward to knowing the answer Fonterra give Penny, if any.
More than 600 corporations and businesses in the USA are privy to TPP contents while the Senate isn’t.
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July 12, 2015 5:28pm
UglyTruth

While they post endless long winded, mind-numbingly boring video links to the spectacle!

Who is “they”, Nasska?
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July 12, 2015 5:29pm
nasska

Apologies UT….I note that none of your comments today include video links.
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July 12, 2015 5:34pm
UglyTruth

its in safe hands of people that care and know what they are doing.

A statement of faith if there ever was one.
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July 12, 2015 5:36pm
Shawn Herles

The videos I posted were in response to Reid, not Ugly, and I’m not debating with either of them. There is no point debating with them on this subject, because it’s just banging your head against a brick wall. What I was doing was offering a different pov for readers. A lot of folks who don’t comment read the blog.

Anyway, relax guys. I made my point, and have no need to post anymore on the subject tonight.
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July 12, 2015 5:36pm
Shawn Herles

I’ve noticed Griff has not been around lately. Anyone know why?
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July 12, 2015 5:40pm
publicwatchdog

Is that right Colville?

If National are REALLY concerned about rural / provincial NZ – how come they lost the Northland by-election?

Penny Bright
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July 12, 2015 5:44pm
All_on_Red

Shawn
Probably in shock DPF linked to WUWT
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July 12, 2015 5:44pm
nasska

…..” A lot of folks who don’t comment read the blog.”…..

Well they probably have done so until they linked to the videos. They’re now probably lying on the floor in a coma with their eyes glazed over after watching such crap.

I’m a backer of Israel & the Jews but watching three hours of that shit would be terminal. 🙂
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July 12, 2015 5:45pm
Shawn Herles

Sorry, what’s WUWT?

Edit: Never mind, I just Googled it. 🙂
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July 12, 2015 5:45pm
UglyTruth

There is no point debating with them on this subject, because it’s just banging your head against a brick wall.

There’s no arguing with the facts, right Shawn?

Anyway, relax guys. I made my point, and have no need to post anymore on the subject tonight.

There’s more to making a point than posting some videos and then quitting the battle.
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July 12, 2015 5:45pm
Shawn Herles

Naaska, I’m from the South remember. My principle is always shoot far more rounds than your enemy! 🙂

But I get the point. One short video would have sufficed. I’ll remember that for the future. Sorry guys.
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July 12, 2015 5:49pm
nasska

Sweet as Shawn…..now help me nail this here racoon to that thar tree. 🙂
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July 12, 2015 5:50pm
Shawn Herles

Dinner at your place naaska?

It tastes sweeter when it’s road kill! 🙂
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July 12, 2015 5:52pm
cha

Naaska, I’m from the South remember.

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http://fuckthesouth.com/
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July 12, 2015 5:53pm
Shawn Herles

Off to church. By folks!
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July 12, 2015 5:54pm
mikenmild

Not a fan of Jesusland, cha?
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July 12, 2015 5:56pm
publicwatchdog

How can New Zealanders have confidence that Trade Minister Tim Groser is acting in the ‘national interest’ – when the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security is currently, of her own volition, conducting an investigation of the NZ GCSB being used to spy on Tim Groser’s rivals in his (unsuccessful) bid for WTO leadership?

How was THAT in the ‘national interest’ of New Zealand?

And who was the Minister responsible for the GCSB at that time?

NZ Prime Minister John Key (a shareholder in the Bank of America).

How can New Zealanders trust either our Minister of Trade, or Prime Minister to look after the ‘national interest’ of our country, our people or NZ businesses?

Seriously?

Penny Bright
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July 12, 2015 6:03pm
mikenmild

Your comments are really boring, Penny. And VERY repetitive.
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July 12, 2015 6:05pm
nasska

Don’t worry Penny……not long now! 🙂

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qhguja9ret5o1cz/Waterwoman%209.jpg?dl=0
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July 12, 2015 6:12pm
Nostradamus

Mikenmild:

We should feel sorry for Penny – Key Derangement Syndrome must be a horrible thing to deal with!
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July 12, 2015 6:13pm
cha

Nope.
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July 12, 2015 6:15pm
Nostradamus

Just for you Mikenmild: a clip that has the rare quality of never becoming boring, no matter how many times you watch it:

http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/video-hysterical-scenes-during-arrest-of-occupy-protestor-penny-bright-2012012612#axzz3aunfDcrA
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July 12, 2015 6:39pm
Manolo

Tough times ahead for the lazy Greeks: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/business/Economy/article1580150.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2015_07_12

Capital controls will stay in place at Greek banks for at least six months, senior officials in Athens warned yesterday, as the government fights to keep lenders afloat.
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July 12, 2015 6:45pm
Dave Stringer

THEY GOT IT RIGHT IN CANADA SEEMINGLY!

LOCAL MAYOR REFUSES TO REMOVE PORK FROM SCHOOL CANTEEN MENU AND EXPLAINS WHY.
Muslim parents have demanded the abolition of pork in all the school
canteens of a Montreal suburb. It seems it is offensive to the Muslim
families and shows much disrespect.
The mayor of the Montreal suburb of Dorval, has refused, and the town
clerk sent a note to all parents in the municipality to explain why.
The following is what the note stated:
“Muslims must understand that they have to adapt to Canada and
Quebec, its customs, its traditions, its way of life, because that is
where they chose to immigrate. They must understand that they have to
integrate and learn to live in Quebec. They must understand that it is
for them to change their lifestyle, not the Canadians who so
generously welcomed them.”
“They must understand that Canadians are neither racist nor
xenophobic, they accepted many immigrants before Muslims (Whereas the
reverse is not true, in that ALL Muslim states do not accept
non-Muslim immigrants.).
“They must also understand that, no more than other nations, Canadians
are not willing to give up their identity nor their culture. And if
Canada is a land of welcome, it is not just the Mayor of Dorval who
welcomes foreigners, but the Canadian-Quebecois people as a whole. “
“Finally, they must understand that in Canada (Quebec) with its
Judeo-Christian roots, Christmas trees, churches and religious
festivals, religion must remain in the private domain. Therefore, the
municipality of Dorval was right to refuse any concessions to Islam
and Sharia.”
“For Muslims who disagree with secularism and do not feel comfortable
in Canada, there are 57 beautiful Muslim countries in the world, most
of them under-populated and ready to receive them with open halal arms
in accordance with Shariah law. If you left your country for Canada,
and not for other Muslim countries, it is because you have considered
that life is better in Canada than elsewhere. So, ask yourself the
question, just once, “Why is it better here in Canada than where you
come from?”
“A canteen with pork is part of the answer.”
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July 12, 2015 6:51pm
publicwatchdog

Ahhh …. the Kiwiblog choir of complaining whiners …..

Which FACTS did you particularly dislike?

Do you really think that our Minister of Trade and Prime Minister can be trusted to look after the ‘national interest’ of New Zealand and the majority of New Zealanders?

What on earth are you basing your ‘trust’ on?

Seriously?

Penny Bright
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July 12, 2015 6:51pm
Colville

Penny @ 5.44

National lost the Northland election because Labour threw their candidate and voters under the bus.

No other reason.

Labour will REALLY regret doing so 🙂
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July 12, 2015 6:58pm
Nostradamus

Penny:

Which FACTS in the video I posted (in which you made a special guest appearance) did you particularly dislike?
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July 12, 2015 7:00pm
nasska

….”What on earth are you basing your ‘trust’ on?”…..

A gut feeling reinforced by your hatred of our Prime Minister.

If a miserable bludger like you get’s her guts twisted out of shape over anything National does then it’s a pretty good indication that they’re on the right track. 🙂
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July 12, 2015 7:02pm
Manolo

What on earth are you basing your ‘trust’ on?

The mere fact that a bludger like you does not like it.
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July 12, 2015 7:05pm
UglyTruth

The mere fact that a bludger like you does not like it.

Irrational and a liar who who wont back down. What a guy.

If a miserable bludger like you get’s her guts twisted out of shape over anything National does then it’s a pretty good indication that they’re on the right track

times two.
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July 12, 2015 7:10pm
big bruv

TV One is showing a vomit educing programme on Helen Kelly as I write this. It appears that TV One is now running propaganda for the scum union movement.
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July 12, 2015 7:11pm
Jack5

Time to end shouting “racism!” to smother discussion of Mainland Chinese buying property. This buying is happening in several countries, and some people think this is likely to increase after the turmoil in the Shanghai sharemarket.

This is an interesting phenomenon, and is definitely a factor stoking the Auckland housing bubble. We should be thinking about how to deal with the bubble aftermath, finding how much risk the NZ divisions of NZ’s Australian banks are at risk when the bubble pops. International banking provisions have been encouraging banks to put money into property as a safe investment. Perhaps we’ll soon find out whether the push into property lending has been prudent.

Here’s an English take on Chinese citizens looking for places to invest their savings:

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jul/12/chinas-rich-seek-shelter-from-stock-market-storm-in-foreign-property
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July 12, 2015 7:16pm
stigie

Im fascinated you’re watching dear Helen BB, couldn’t be bothered !~
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July 12, 2015 7:19pm
Jack5

Re Big Bruv at 7.11….

C’mon Big Bruv, the TV programme on Helen Kelly was moving. She believes what she fought for as a union organiser and is now facing a personal dilemma with courage and dignity. I don’t agree with her, but I admire her.
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July 12, 2015 7:26pm
twofish

Circulating message claims that the mayor of Dorval, a city in Quebec Canada, refused to bow to Muslim demands to remove pork from local school canteen menus and explained his decision in a strident note sent to parents in the area.

The message is a hoax. The Dorval mayor did not write the words attributed to him and made no such comments. A news release on the Dorval City website denounces the message as false. The hoax is an altered version of an earlier piece that claimed that the mayor of a Belgium municipality refused Muslim demands to remove pork from school canteens. The original Belgium version was also a hoax.

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/dorval-mayor-refuses-remove-pork-school-canteens.shtml

bugger – one of several, unfortunately
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July 12, 2015 7:26pm
Tauhei Notts

Big Bruv at 7.11 gone a down tick from me.
I thought the programme showed that Helen Kelly is fine woman.
The pity is that she is phucked in the head. But so are some other leftist people. Get over it.
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July 12, 2015 7:28pm
big bruv

Tauhei

The programme did not show her to be a fine person at all. All it did was reinforced to me what a liar she is and how she is nothing more than a self serving union parasite.
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July 12, 2015 7:38pm
Jack5

There are some psychopathic bastards here, who would put a boot into a person with terminal cancer, such as Helen Kelly.

Makes me wonder whether the new prison with computers (and phones) in every cell is up and running, with internet connection.

Big Bruv: Your 7.38 post is deplorable. If by some miracle you, Big Bruv, were on a leaky lifeboat with Helen Kelly and me, and we had to lighten it to survive, you would be over the side in the blink of an eye, with an oar tap on the head to make sure you didn’t climb back aboard.
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July 12, 2015 7:41pm
Nookin

Can somebody help me here please?

Penny asks what “facts” upset the myriad whining complainers here tonight and I seem to be having some difficulty recognising a single fact even remotely relevant to the issue of national interest.

Her challenge to Mr Groser’s pursuit of the national interest is based on the fact that the Prime Minister (not Mr Groser) gathered information about his competitors.

Her challenge to the Prime Minister’s dedication to the national interest is based on the fact that he has shares in the Bank Of America.

She is of course wholly unable to point out how many shares he has and whether he comes anywhere close to the significant deposit that former labour leader David Shearer had in a US bank. That of course did not seem to offend her sense of patriotism.

Nor of course did the revelation that Mr Cunliffe has appointed a U.S.-based Kiwi saver fund manager.

I digress, however.

The Inspector-General has indeed commenced an enquiry. The terms of reference do not appear to be the legality of the actions (none of which of course have been revealed and will not be revealed) but the processes adopted.

For my part, I would be astonished if the government failed to undertake a full investigation of those competing with Mr Groser. It is safe to assume that the governments of the other candidates had dossiers inches thick on our Timothy.

It of course makes sense, doesn’t it. One of the fundamental rules of any negotiation, conflict resolution or competition is that you walk in the other guy’s shoes, learn where he is coming from and try to anticipate what he will do. I mean, that is just so basic.

Penny of course knows that. She heavily subscribes to the notion that it helps to know more about the man than the ball.

She is constantly bitching that those who criticise her do so using a pseudonym. The use of a pseudonym or real name has nothing whatsoever to do with the debate. The sole purpose of ascertaining the identity of anyone with whom one is engaging is to gain the leverage of knowledge of all things relevant (and, in her case, irrelevant) including everything you can find out about the opponent.

If GCSB broke the law, that is one thing but there is not the slightest hint of any fact that suggests that it has done so. In the absence of any illegality, Penny’s pitiful protestations reek of flagrant hypocrisy and her reference to “facts” is nothing more than puerile innuendo and non sequitur.
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July 12, 2015 7:55pm
Fletch

Just flicked past Dancing With The Stars on TVNZ. I see that radio DJ Jo-Jo or whatever her name is, is still on there. That’s why I don’t watch it, when talentless people like that are still on it.
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July 12, 2015 7:58pm
Scott Chris

Anyone with a passing interest in Rugby League might want to watch the highlights of the Warriors vs Storm game. Has one of the most amazing tries I’ve ever seen and a very entertaining game:

http://www.nrl.com/rd-18-warriors-v-storm-hls/tabid/10959/contentid/767975/default.aspx
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July 12, 2015 8:19pm
Nookin

Scott

They have been practising that move for a while now and this was this first opportunity to try it out. Looked good, eh?
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July 12, 2015 8:22pm
nasska

As a nation we seem to be preoccupied with climate change & Auckland house prices yet the real crisis is that one day elderly drivers will know how to text.
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July 12, 2015 8:31pm
SGA

nasska at 8:31 pm

As a nation we seem to be preoccupied with climate change & Auckland house prices yet the real crisis is that one day elderly drivers will know how to text.

Hopefully someone like google will see an opportunity and develop a driverless car! 😉
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July 12, 2015 8:34pm
Dave_1924

Penny are you completely witless???:

“conducting an investigation of the NZ GCSB being used to spy on Tim Groser’s rivals in his (unsuccessful) bid for WTO leadership?

How was THAT in the ‘national interest’ of New Zealand?”

We have spy agencies to gain information valuable to NZs National interest. We are a tiny trading national floating in a sea of trade sharks….so….

If you can’t connect the dots between NZ seeking influence to allow it to make more money from trade, which would be a good thing, to GSCB sought information to make Tim Groser head of the WTO where he could exercise some beneficial influence then I think you are completely wasting your time getting out of bed in the morning…
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July 12, 2015 8:40pm
Dave_1924

Any truth that Robbo encouraged Twyford to front the Chinese Foreign Buyer piece making waves today? Seems Twyford’s star is being severely tarnish by it all, and all Phil did was switch from supporting Robbo to Mr Little at the last minute….

But i like a nice conspiracy theory….
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July 12, 2015 8:42pm
nasska

….”Hopefully someone like google will see an opportunity and develop a driverless car!”…..

Read in yesterday’s Dom Post that changes to legislation are being mooted that will allow driverless cars to be trialled in NZ.

With luck they may be introduced before I’m completely gaga & drive at 40kph like most of the current geriatric defectives cluttering up the centre line if our state highways. 🙂
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July 12, 2015 8:43pm
Brigitte

….”Hopefully someone like google will see an opportunity and develop a driverless car!”…..

From my observations of NZ roads and traffic, there appear to be plenty of cars that are driverless (despite having someone in the drivers seat).
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July 12, 2015 8:50pm
SGA

nasska at 8:43 pm

before I’m completely gaga & drive at 40kph like most of the current geriatric defectives cluttering up the centre line if our state highways. 🙂

Relatedly – hat tip to Jucy for your distinctive paint jobs. Saw such a mini-van ahead in another lane – gave it a few extra metres and a little extra attention just in case they weren’t too sure what they were up to. Nek minit, sudden unannounced double lane crossing to get where they needed. As they say, forewarned is forearmed.
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July 12, 2015 8:56pm
stigie

Scott, Those young players really stood up today with Manu, Konrad and Hoffman not there, will be a tuf one next Saturday.

The plays and trys were brilliant, might just watch the replay tomorrow perhaps !~
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July 12, 2015 9:02pm
cricko

TV1 news tells us that it will be cold tonight.

Therefore, we should all pay more tax.

When mum has spent all her bene on smokes and piss for her new boyfriend, and he is on the bene
also (the poor sod)

How the fuck do you expect them to buy their P ?
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July 12, 2015 9:05pm
stigie

Well, when you drive a tractor to town, it can always be a bit of a problem Nasska !~
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July 12, 2015 9:06pm
cha

Sooner rather than later.

http://www.driverless-future.com/

http://www.hybridcars.com/us-likely-to-see-nissans-first-production-autonomous-car-in-2020/

http://www.kurzweilai.net/fully-self-driving-cars-expected-by-2030-says-forecast
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July 12, 2015 9:15pm
cha

Trucks too.

http://www.wired.com/2015/05/worlds-first-self-driving-semi-truck-hits-road/
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July 12, 2015 9:24pm
Manolo

The clown Kerry forges ahead: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/iran-nuclear-deal-within-reach-sunday-iranian-official-094948511.html
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July 13, 2015 6:30am
EAD

Interesting to read about New Zealand’s links in the beginning of the destruction of old Britain:

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/07/jews-the-ss-empire-windrush-and-the-origins-of-multicultural-britain/
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July 13, 2015 7:38am
mikenmild

More Jew-hating, EAD? Must be a day ending in ‘y’.
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July 13, 2015 7:54am
Manolo

Angry Andy making policy on the hoof on Paul Henry’s program this morning. Socialist Labour will regret this act of stupidity and xenophobia.
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July 13, 2015 7:55am
Manolo

Not only foreigners, any foreigners, will not be allowed to buy property in NZ, but existing owners will not be able to sell to non-resident foreigners. Supreme stupidity from the Labour Party as expressed this morning by its unionist leader.
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July 13, 2015 7:58am
EAD

What did you think of the impeccably researched (with citations) article Mike?

I’m all ears or did you just read the url?
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July 13, 2015 8:02am
mikenmild

What of it? What part of it do you think reinforced your ideas about the evil Jewish conspiracy?
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