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Nostradamus

Shawn Herles:

I would like to thank the people of New Zealand for introducing me to the word ‘bollocks.

Not sure whether you quality as a celebrity diner, Shawn, but Heston Blumenthal has created a medieval magical feast just for you!
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June 14, 2015 4:18pm
Shawn Herles

Heh, I saw that episode on TV Nostra. Blumenthal is wonderfully insane.
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June 14, 2015 4:21pm
Jack5

The traitor Edward Snowden has put on the line the lives of Western agents in totalitarian China and corrupt Russia, reports the Daily Mail

The MSM who barracked for Hager the Horrible won’t be featuring this news.

And when is National going to nail “Rawshark”? They let the police fail to get the spy who wrecked the political career of Don Brash, and now they don’t seem to give a rat’s arse whether Rawshark is outed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3123208/Britain-forced-withdraw-spies-U-S-high-alert-Russia-China-access-secret-files-stolen-NSA-whistleblower-Edward-Snowden.html
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June 14, 2015 4:27pm
MT_Tinman

Nostradamus (2,871 comments) says:
June 14th, 2015 at 4:11 pm

The man has no situational awareness.

He’s 85 years old, locked up and no longer has anything to look forward to.

Why the hell should he?
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June 14, 2015 4:27pm
Reid

reid: very interesting article about Ellis.
Adams is just towing the line. Wonder if she has read Hoods book. Agree that the questions need to be asked and politicians pursued.

Media needs to be pursued too wiseowl. This sort of news would not be hidden from them, it just wouldn’t. Someone sometime would have blabbed to one of them and it would have got around. So my view is the media have made a collective decision not to pursue it. Because it would mean an instant end to the careers of the two subjects and it would also be a shock to the public in terms of the credibility of the justice system. It would shake that to the core.

But this is precisely what the media are for, and so far, the only publication with the guts and integrity to do the 4th Estate’s duty, is LF.

So since the media won’t do its fucking job, the public are going to need to do an end run around the pricks and force this issue ourselves.

That’s why I said it was out-fucking-rageous, and it is. This is why the media and the politicians scrabble round the bottom of the pond and fight each other for first place in the least trusted profession stakes. This is a living example of it.
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June 14, 2015 4:51pm
nasska

Reid

The original persecution of Ellis was driven by the media seeking blood & sensationalism.

They simply can’t afford to change sides & lose more credibility.
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June 14, 2015 4:57pm
UglyTruth

“Atheism: connected to massive securities fraud via the secular doctrines of the state.”

I have never been a fan of atheism, but even I think this claim from Ugly is utter bollocks.

In my experience reality and what you think have never been that closely related, Cap’n.

The state’s misrepresentation of the common law is a form of atheism because that misrepresentation does not describe the actual theistic nature of the common law. Another similar case of misrepresentation is the state’s description of sovereignty, which is fundamentally different to the sovereignty upon which national laws are based within English democracy. Since the state doesn’t have the real sovereignty necessary to make substantive law, much of the obligations of taxpayers are fictitious and fraudulent, and these obligations are an essential part of the securing of loans by the state.
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June 14, 2015 5:10pm
Johnboy

I’m Rolf the lag
Diddle diddle dum
And I shagged your mum
Diddle diddle dum

With my great big peg
That I called third leg
I made the little tarts always beg
The bitches say I have no cred

I’m Rolf the crim
Diddle diddle dim
But I’m not him
Diddle diddle dim

I’m Rolf the star
With a QC at the bar
My time in jail will not be long
I’ll soon be back where I belong

I’m Rolf the Dim! 🙂
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June 14, 2015 5:27pm
Shawn Herles

“In my experience reality and what you think have never been that closely related”

Lol. Irony is not your strong point is it Ugly? 🙂

“The Earth is hollow, alien reptilian shapeshifting lizard people run the USA, Nazi UFO’s in Antarctica, I don’t need a drivers license………….”
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June 14, 2015 5:27pm
UglyTruth

What it comes down to, Cap’n, is your inability to refute anything from my 5:10.
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June 14, 2015 5:29pm
mikenmild

Nothing about Ugly’s strange theories of common law and religion requires refutation. Best to just ignore the mumblings: maybe he will grow out of this phase one day.
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June 14, 2015 5:32pm
UglyTruth

Nothing about Ugly’s strange theories of common law and religion requires refutation

You’re unaware that there is a difference between fact and theory, MM, or are you just throwing out a straw man in the hope that some dillwit gets the impression that you know what you’re talking about?

Best to just ignore the mumblings

Just put your fingers in your ears and go la la la…..
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June 14, 2015 5:40pm
Shawn Herles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXXHwVqCI9k
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June 14, 2015 5:40pm
mikenmild

Perhaps you are ready to test your strange theories in court again, Ugly. How did that go last time?
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June 14, 2015 5:41pm
Johnboy

Nice one Shawn. What’s your take on Dallas Police Headquarters?

Cops undergunned again I think! 🙂
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June 14, 2015 5:45pm
Johnboy

Two losses milkey?

A worry! 🙂
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June 14, 2015 5:48pm
UglyTruth

How did that go last time?

At the preliminary hearing the judge admitted to committing fraud, he said it was due to “the rules”.

At the defended hearing the judge (a different one) refused to address the the issue of the golden rule (Baron Parke’s maxim) in court. The golden rule devastates their protection racket.
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June 14, 2015 5:49pm
Shawn Herles

“What’s your take on Dallas Police Headquarters?”

The shooter was taken out by SWAT, so job well done.
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June 14, 2015 5:51pm
stephieboy

Ugly Truth,

“The state’s misrepresentation of the common law is a form of atheism because that misrepresentation does not describe the actual theistic nature of the common law. Another similar case of misrepresentation is the state’s description of sovereignty, which is fundamentally different to the sovereignty upon which national laws are based within English democracy. Since the state doesn’t have the real sovereignty necessary to make substantive law, much of the obligations of taxpayers are fictitious and fraudulent, and these obligations are an essential part of the securing of loans by the state.”

And where did you dredge this piece of jurisprudence gobbledy gook from ?
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June 14, 2015 5:52pm
Nostradamus

Even UglyTruth will enjoy this trip down memory lane:

Dennis Denuto: It’s the vibe of the thing, your Honour.

Good times!
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June 14, 2015 5:52pm
Shawn Herles

“At the preliminary hearing the judge admitted to committing fraud, he said it was due to “the rules”.”

I’m going to go out on a limb and say there are only three possibilities here.

Ugly is lying.

Ugly is delusional.

Both the above.

No judge would ever say he was committing fraud in a legal decision.
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June 14, 2015 5:53pm
Johnboy

Why did it take them….”A few hours later” Shawn?

Yanks getting as soft as us eh? 🙂
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June 14, 2015 5:56pm
Shawn Herles

Quite possibly JB. I wonder if they are a bit spooked due to the recent controversies regarding police shootings.
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June 14, 2015 5:57pm
Nostradamus

Shawn:

No judge would ever say he was committing fraud in a legal decision.

I’ve previously explored this point in considerable detail with UglyTruth. Start here and keep reading!

The end point (29 minutes later):

As you’ve now failed to provide Judge Russell’s exact words, despite being asked to do so several times now, I’m calling it: Judge Russell did not admit to committing fraud!

So, overall, an unproven claim.

But the discussion (which was entertaining for so many reasons) kept going…
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June 14, 2015 5:59pm
UglyTruth

No judge would ever say he was committing fraud in a legal decision.

It wasn’t a legal decision, it was part of the administrative process which is usually performed by a J.P. If he had denied it he would have only made matters worse for himself, since it’s fairly straightforward to show that what he did was in fact fraudulent.
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June 14, 2015 6:03pm
Shawn Herles

Thanks Nostra, read through it and yup, Ugly is without a doubt lying.
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June 14, 2015 6:03pm
Shawn Herles

“It wasn’t a legal decision”

Bullshit. Under NZ law you have to have a drivers license. If you are driving without one, that is breaking the law. Thus in sentencing you the judge was making a legal decision that you broke NZ law.

The fact that he also sent you for a psychiatric evaluation tells me a great deal about how seriously to take your claims about it.
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June 14, 2015 6:08pm
nasska

In UT’s defence, he wasn’t residing on planet Earth at the time of the alleged incident. 🙂
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June 14, 2015 6:11pm
Shawn Herles

Those alien anal probes are a bitch naaska. That would screw with anyone’s sanity! 🙂
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June 14, 2015 6:17pm
Peter

I see The Stranded are talking about a mass boycott of TV3 over Campbell.

I hardly see how 12 people not watching TV3 will make much of a difference.
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June 14, 2015 6:31pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9v3jgvwzft2ez20/UT%2025.jpg?dl=0
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June 14, 2015 6:31pm
Reid

Thanks Nostra, read through it and yup, Ugly is without a doubt lying.

So what’s UT lying about Shawn?

Of course lying is completely different from being mistaken, so let’s not stray into that territory. But pray back up your contention re: lying with some specific quotes from that conversation, there’s a good boy.

Lest we think you’re just full of shit and throwing accusations like being a liar around like confetti, as you are wont to do.
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June 14, 2015 6:35pm
Fletch

Ugh, why is there never anything decent to watch on free TV?
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June 14, 2015 6:46pm
Shawn Herles

“So what’s UT lying about Shawn?”

No Judge would say, on the bench, in public, in a legal decision, that he was committing fraud by applying the law.

That is bloody obvious to anyone with more than two braincells to rub together.

“Lest we think you’re just full of shit and throwing accusations like being a liar around like confetti, as you are wont to do.”

You’re a Jew hating, racist moron and serial liar who could not think his way out of a paper bag. That’s not an accusation, it’s the truth.

Now run along so the adults can speak.
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June 14, 2015 6:57pm
renderer

Is it any wonder that anyone with more than two brain cells buggers of when the nut bars start quarrelling
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June 14, 2015 7:26pm
Reid

Don’t worry renderer, I won’t be responding. I really just wanted to see what he’d do.

I wasn’t surprised.
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June 14, 2015 7:31pm
Dennis Horne

I am an atheist and I believe we must talk about euthanasia and eugenics urgently. I don’t claim to be “caring” and “nice”.

But I don’t call people I disagree with “Liars”.

Mad, maybe! 🙂 🙂 🙂
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June 14, 2015 7:34pm
Reid

But I don’t call people I disagree with “Liars”.

No but Shawn does, and worse.

And at least three others agree with him.

Let me guess. stephie, mm and RichardII.
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June 14, 2015 7:37pm
Dennis Horne

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June 14, 2015 7:40pm
Reid

Your point Dennis?
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June 14, 2015 7:41pm
nasska

A government employee sat in his office, and out of boredom, decided to see what was inside his disused filing cabinet.

He poked through the contents and came across an old brass lamp.

“This will look good on my mantelpiece,” he said, and took it home with him.

While polishing the lamp, a genie appeared and, as usual, granted him three wishes.

“I would like an ice-cold Coke right now.” He gets his Coke and drinks it. Now that he can think more clearly, he states his second wish.

“I wish to be on an island with beautiful women, who find me irresistible. ” Suddenly, he’s on an island with gorgeous women. eyeing him lustfully. He tells the genie his third and last wish.

“I wish I’d never have to work again.” Instantly, he was back in his government office.
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June 14, 2015 7:57pm
renderer

And the worry is some people commenting currently, actually believe they are talking sense. The reality is that some should be in a home for the bewildered.
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June 14, 2015 7:59pm
mikenmild

Go on, name some names here renderer.
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June 14, 2015 8:03pm
Shawn Herles

“But I don’t call people I disagree with “Liars”.”

I do, if they are in fact lying.

It is possible that Ugly is so delusional that he actually believes his version of the events. But regardless, his version is clearly not credible.

As to Reid, anyone who makes claims like the Jews desecrate their own graves to whip up sympathy, that the Star of David is a Satanic symbol, that Jews have too much influence in the media, and that raising awareness of the Holocaust is just propaganda, and then claims to not hate Jews, is either lying, or every bit as delusional as Ugly.

So, dishonest or insane?
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June 14, 2015 8:07pm
Shawn Herles

Anyway, on to a much more pleasant topic. I saw this two days ago and it bloody ROCKS! See it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWNWi-ZWL3c
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June 14, 2015 8:17pm
SPC

First they slander God as a murderer. So they can be in the image of their god of judgement when they commit their murders.

Then they try and terrorise the earth with their lie that those who do not join them in this will go to hell. All this does is insinuate that hell is the place where the blessed peace makers beloved by God will party together.

Thus heaven becomes the place over which Moslems and Christians fight for ruling power, seeking to outcast the other so they can be oppressed from on high.
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June 14, 2015 8:26pm
Reid

Mossad desecrates Jewish graves when it appears poor widdle Iswael needs some propaganda help. Last time they did it in NZ was when 2 of its agents were being tried for stealing passports. They never caught and charged anyone for that, did they. Then Hulun had “an accident” with a plane door and suddenly poor widdle Iswael didn’t need to explain precisely what those passports were going to used for.

The star of david is a satanic symbol.

Jewish influence in the media is disproportionate: e.g. https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/six_jewish_corp_control_96pct_of_world_msm.jpg (they need it because poor widdle Iswael is such a thuggish swine of a nation if it didn’t have professional lipstick appliers 24/7/365 pretty soon the entire world would be treating it exactly like they treated the other thug, South Africa, and they can’t have that, so they need plenty of liars).

Who needs to have their awareness of the holocaust(TM) raised? Which school kid doesn’t get it rammed down their throats? It IS propaganda. Ask any school kid who were the OTHER victims of the holocaust, apart from Jews and how much they know about THOSE groups. How come the Jews are the only victims of note, according to the propaganda? How come its illegal to question the official history of it in various Euro states. How come only this subject has that status? What’s so sacred about that subject, that you go to jail if you dare to question it. Does any of that sound like commie type rules?

And in all of this recognition of those facts and they are facts, there is no hatred of anyone.

And in all of the discussions of the above Captain Bananas has never once attacked the arguments raised. Not once. He’s just said they’re not true, and that’s it. Haven’t you, Captain Bananas. Oh. And lied.
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June 14, 2015 8:33pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cii9z9diiurlmll/Atheism%205.jpg?dl=0
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June 14, 2015 8:38pm
Shawn Herles

I rest my case.

Reid is a Jew hater. His own words above are the proof.
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June 14, 2015 8:40pm
Reid

Argue the facts Captain Bananas if you can.

Go on. Tell us how the media ownership isn’t what’s in that link.

And once you’ve done that, I’ll give you the data on the star of david and you can argue that.

But you won’t do any of that will you.

No.

Blustering liars never do.
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June 14, 2015 8:45pm
Shawn Herles

“And in all of the discussions of the above Captain Bananas has never once attacked the arguments raised. Not once.”

No, not once, but many times Reid.

The fact is that you will be totally unable to prove or even provide a skerrit of evidence for your Mossad claims, and when pushed for credible evidence you will throw a tantrum and run away.

Go on, show us the evidence for your Mossad claim Reid.

“I’ll give you the data on the star of david”

I have already seen your laughable “evidence” for that.
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June 14, 2015 8:46pm
Reid

No, not once, but many times Reid.

Liar. You’ve never. Just like you didn’t just now.

You might have seen my “laughable” star of david links, but you never said anything about them, same as you’ve never said anything about anything else, ever.

You’re a blustering liar Captain Bananas.

Go on, have a go at the media link and address the data in it.

Break the habit of a lifetime.

Go on.

Dare ya.

Liar.
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June 14, 2015 8:54pm
Shawn Herles

This article deals with the myth that Jews are disproportionately represented in media, as well as many other claims Reid makes.

“When Paranoia Meets Prejudice: Debunking the Notion of a Jewish Conspiracy”

http://www.timwise.org/2003/08/when-paranoia-meets-prejudice-debunking-the-notion-of-a-jewish-conspiracy/

Here is a relevant extract:

“For example, the founders of the website, Hoozajew.org (who claim their goal is to confront Jewish power and destructive influences), say they have developed a database program that can determine how many Jews are in a given organization by analyzing the names of people in the group. Putting aside the absurdity of trying to determine religious or ethnic heritage solely from a list of names, when this “program” is used to analyze key figures at three of the top media companies in the U.S., the number of Jews among top executives, directors and management totals eight out of eighty-eight: about nine percent. Though this is higher than the three percent of Americans who are Jewish, it is not such a disproportion as to indicate Jewish “control” of the media.

What’s more, the apparent disproportion is rooted more in statistical sampling error than anything else. For example, at AOL TimeWarner there are twenty-four key executives, so even though only five are Jewish, five as a share of twenty-four is 21 percent, giving the impression of a huge disproportion of Jews; likewise, Gannett, where only three of thirty-four board members or top management are Jewish, according to Hoozajew.org, but where this represents a seemingly disproportionate nine percent of the total. Because of low sample sizes, virtually any Jewish representation will appear disproportionate in a statistical sense. Imagine a company with fifteen executives. If even one of those is Jewish, the Jewish “representation” would be nearly seven percent–more than twice the share of Jews as in the population at large. But to think that one out of fifteen individuals somehow indicates Jewish domination of that company would be the very definition of lunacy.”

So Reid’s claim is clearly false.
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June 14, 2015 8:54pm
Reid

Newsflash Shawn, when someone gives you data, it’s customary to address the provided data, not simply go and find some other data completely unrelated to that provided.

I know you’re new at this, so I’ll cut you some slack. But please, tell us what’s false about what I provided, not something you just googled that has nothing to do with it.

https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/six_jewish_corp_control_96pct_of_world_msm.jpg

Thanks.
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June 14, 2015 9:00pm
Shawn Herles

This sums up the issue well.

“That nothing I have said here will matter to those whose vitriol regularly fills my inbox is testimony to nothing so much as their deep psychological need to project their own authoritarian tendencies onto others. To find Jewish scapegoats for whatever miserable failures their lives have turned out to be, is the ideological holy grail of the anti-Jewish bigot. And of course it will lead them to view this column as merely more proof that a Jewish conspiracy exists, and that I am part of it: my denials only prove my guilt, in the warped worldview of persons so hate-besotted.

So be it. But at least the introduction of facts into a debate otherwise top-heavy with innuendo and paranoid ranting can perhaps inoculate some against the spread of the virus of anti-Jewish bigotry. At the very least, we can now rest assured in the knowledge that just as Nazis have never been very good with history, they are equally bad at understanding things like statistical probability and even the most rudimentary strictures of reason.”
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June 14, 2015 9:01pm
Reid

So you’re not going to address the data?

So your habit of a lifetime continues?

But we assume you’ll continue your lies and libel?

Despite not disproving anything at all I’ve said?

You just say what you like because you think you’re entitled to?
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June 14, 2015 9:03pm
Shawn Herles

“I know you’re new at this, so I’ll cut you some slack. But please, tell us what’s false about what I provided,”

I just did, but I already knew you would ignore any facts that don’t fit your bigotry.

The article, which I have used before, deals with your claim and destroys it.

Your “data” is dealt with in the article by Tim Wise.
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June 14, 2015 9:03pm
Shawn Herles

“Newsflash Shawn, when someone gives you data, it’s customary to address the provided data, not simply go and find some other data completely unrelated to that provided.”

Bullshit. It is customary when provided with any claim to A: check the source, in this case yours is a whackjob conspiracy site, and B: find more credible data, which I did.

Your claim has been refuted.

Of course, the far more important question is that, even where it true, why would it matter, unless you believe their is something inherently bad about being Jewish?

Hence I am right in calling you a Jew hating bigot.
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June 14, 2015 9:09pm
Reid

I just did, but I already knew you would ignore any facts that don’t fit your bigotry.

The article, which I have used before, deals with your claim and destroys it.

Your “data” is dealt with in the article by Tim Wise.

Nothing you have provided addresses my data.

Case closed Captain Bananas.

You’re a liar and a coward.
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June 14, 2015 9:12pm
Shawn Herles

“Nothing you have provided addresses my data.”

You mean like the part I posted which does in fact do so?

Yes, I know it’s inconvenient to your Nazi bigotry, but sorry Reid, your claim has been debunked.

Still waiting for a shred of evidence about your Mossad claim. Having a wee bit of trouble finding it? Again.

Shouldn’t be too difficult to come up with something. There are plenty of Neo-Nazi web sites out there to choose from.

You should know most of them by now, given how often you cite them as evidence.
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June 14, 2015 9:17pm
Reid

unless you believe their is something inherently bad about being Jewish?

No of course I don’t and this is why I defend Jews by exposing those who hate them and wish to destroy them. Unlike you, who support such evil people.

You see Captain Bananas, it’s not in poor widdle Iswael’s interests to behave as she does, because half the world hates her guts, not because she’s Jewish, but because she acts like a thug. And if she didn’t do that then half the world wouldn’t hate her anymore, would they.

This is simple human nature but hate-filled fanatics like you can’t see that, hate-filled fanatics never can.

You mean like the part I posted which does in fact do so?

Oh, you mean the part where you explain how the data in that graphic is wrong because….

That part?

No, sorry, I missed that part. Can you show me where it is please?

I know its inconvenient to a hater like you to be challenged on anything, but we really do need to play by the accepted rules Captain Bananas, and not just stuff you make up on the spot.
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June 14, 2015 9:19pm
Newbie

Thanks PG for your reply at 10.03am.

Am keen to post some graphs. Will have to work out how.
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June 14, 2015 9:21pm
Shawn Herles

“No of course I don’t and this is why I defend Jews by exposing those who hate them and wish to destroy them. ”

Liar. “Jews desecrate their own graves.” Those were your original words liar, not Mossad. You said JEWS. Now you’re trying to change what you said to cover your lying ass. Pathetic. Seriously pathetic.

I have more respect for Nazi skinheads who go around making Hitler salutes. They at least have enough integrity to be honest about what they believe. You can’t even manage that.
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June 14, 2015 9:24pm
nasska

Newbie

Open an account at https://www.dropbox.com/home. You get 2.0GB free.

Transfer files or images to Dropbox…..from there you can create a clickable link eg my 8.38pm
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June 14, 2015 9:26pm
SPC

The obsession with Zionism is because it is Jewish nationalism and thus arouses an array of critics.

Secularists, Christians and Moslems can be equally obsessive. Then secularists also diss Christian or Moslem polity/will to rule, Christians, Moslem and secular polity and Moslems, the Christian West and secular society polity.
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June 14, 2015 9:29pm
Reid

Liar. “Jews desecrate their own graves.” Those were your original words liar, not Mossad. You said JEWS. Now you’re trying to change what you said to cover your lying ass. Pathetic. Seriously pathetic.

Don’t try to change the subject, Captain Bananas.

I know your hate-filled rage is clouding your vision and turning you purple and you’ve probably punched a few holes in your wall by now, but we’re talking about the media data that you haven’t yet addressed.

We’ll talk about the desecration and the lies you’ve told about those including those in the quote above, later.

But first, let’s deal with the media issue.

So, I asked you a question. You’ve told us you did address the data in my link, and I simply asked you: where?

So yet again Captain Bananas: where exactly did you address that?

It’s a simple question, even though your eyes are clouded and rage is coursing through your very being. But even you, should be able to direct some of your tiny mind, toward answering that very simple question.
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June 14, 2015 9:29pm
stephieboy

Reid, I note in your link regarding news media ownership concentration no 5 which is of course Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. Your not suggesting he is a jew or conspiring or consorting with them ?
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June 14, 2015 9:46pm
Newbie

Thanks Nasska.
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June 14, 2015 9:48pm
Dennis Horne

There was an old blogger called Reid
Who in Christian love tried to exceed
That of Shawn Herles
Both knobs with knurls
Rubbing each other in friction feed
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June 14, 2015 11:15pm
Elaycee

Stunning day for Kiwi motorsport….

Porsche won at the Le Mans 24 hour race with Kiwi Earl Bamber sharing the winning drive with Nico Hulkenberg and Nick Tandy. Second was another Porsche driven by Mark Webber, Kiwi Brendon Hartley and Timo Bernhard. To top it off, Kiwi Mitch Evans was also on the podium – he was in the second placed team in the LMP2 class.

Is it asking too much to hope for Scott Dixon to do something similar at Toronto this afternoon in his Indycar? 🙂
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June 15, 2015 5:00am
Elaycee

And it continues…. excellent news from RWC Italy that Hayden Paddon was on the podium at Sardinia.

Outstanding.
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June 15, 2015 5:36am
EAD

Was worth getting up early to watch Ross Taylor and Kane Williamson score centuries to guide us to victory. When our 2 premier batsmen are in this sort of form, there ain’t many teams better! Also victory achieved without Trent Boult for all those naysayers ……..

re yesterday’s debate – well done Reid for standing up to a nasty, below the belt assault. Everyone should remember the reason we still have free speech is so that voices contrary to the “status quo” can be heard whether they be right or wrong. Reid IMHO is one of the best naysayers
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June 15, 2015 5:49am
Keeping Stock

@ Elaycee – it’s a fantastic result indeed for these parts of the world. Earl Bamber is a Wanganui lad, and Brendon Hartley from Palmerston North was in the Porsche team that ran second to Bamber’s team.

All in all, a pretty special weekend for Kiwi motorsport. although from the downticks you’ve received, there is a non-petrolhead lurking around here 😀
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June 15, 2015 6:15am
Manolo

Hypocrisy to the power of 1,000: http://nypost.com/2015/06/14/hillary-touts-girl-power-fair-paychecks-at-campaign-rally/

Robin Hood has traded tights for a royal-blue pantsuit.

Hillary Rodham Clinton rebranded herself as an anti-Wall Street warrior who would take from the rich to give to the poor in an official presidential campaign launch Saturday on Roosevelt Island.

“Prosperity can’t be just for CEOs and hedge-fund managers. Democracy can’t just be for billionaires and corporations.”
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June 15, 2015 6:26am
Pete George

Manolo – free speech has responsibilities, and if they’re abused or ignored there can be consequences.

[deleted by DPF]

You have a right of reply if you wish.

[DPF: It is unacceptable to out commentators here, so that is Strike 1. What you do on your blog is a matter for you, but I have given out many strikes before for people who don;t use the name that people choose to comment under]
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June 15, 2015 6:38am
big bruv

Elaycee

Let me make a small correction for you.

“Stunning day for Kiwi motor racing….”

Sitting in a car, or, sitting on top of a horse while they do laps of a track does not constitute sport.

Thanks, glad I could clear that up for you.
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June 15, 2015 6:46am
srylands

Pete George with respect you are making a mountain out of a molehill.
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June 15, 2015 6:57am
Mark

Not a great week for Nick Smith.
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June 15, 2015 7:13am
Pete George

srylands – I disagree. You may not be aware of Manolo’s long record of lying and smearing. Sometimes it’s worth standing up to blog bullies.

Manolo has been molehilling for a decade, blatantly repeating lies and smears, ignoring reasonable requests to desist.

Are you suggesting that serial shit throwers shouldn’t be held to account? Active and tacit support of blog bullies like Manolo means they keep shitting in the nest, in this case someone else’s nest, DPF’s, who gets saddled with the shitty reputation by association. I think his staunch policy supporting freedom of speech is regularly abused by Manolo. He can do what he likes about that, but so can I. Manolo chooses to sneer at reasonable requests to retract, and I exercised my ‘free speech’ in response. As he can.
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June 15, 2015 7:17am
big bruv

PG

Before you go calling people blog bullies (and really, grow up man.) have you ever looked at your own behaviour?

If anybody is a bully it is you. Very few days pass without you deciding that you, and only you are the one who gets to decide what is decent, what is right, or what is acceptable.

In many ways you were/are the ideal UF candidate, like Dunne you are so full of your own self importance.
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June 15, 2015 7:46am
Manolo

“blog bullies, rape culture, dirty politics”…the Oracle of Dunedin is full of it.
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June 15, 2015 7:57am
Pete George

Very few days pass without you deciding that you, and only you are the one who gets to decide what is decent, what is right, or what is acceptable.

That’s a load of bull big bruv. Next thing you’ll be accusing me of being a beige irrelevant fence sitter.

Not really surprising to see you trying to defend abuse and bullying.

I actively promote debate and expression of different opinions without resorting to abuse and bullying. Some seem to have a problem with that approach and want to protect their shit throwing. I don’t get to decide what you or anyone else does at all. And neither do you.
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June 15, 2015 8:10am
stephieboy

Manolo. you got a very bad press from many posters yesterday and it wasn’t from me.

Whats up ?

Ah now I see,

http://yournz.org/2015/06/15/manolo-pedreschi-recidivist-liar-and-blog-bully/

Serial poster bully etc !
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June 15, 2015 8:11am
Elaycee

Sitting in a car, or, sitting on top of a horse while they do laps of a track does not constitute sport.

Thank you for confirming your lack of success on the sporting front – especially at elite level.

L.A.C.
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