General Debate 22 May 2015

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Manolo

Do-gooders, parasites, progressives and people living off the infamous Treaty gravy train will not like these statistics: http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/asian-kiwis-expected-to-overtake-maori/ar-BBk3uY3?ocid=mailsignoutmd
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May 22, 2015 8:00am
Paulus Gnome

First non inflationary rise in a benefit for working families in more than forty years and the Labour party will reluctantly support the move through parliament.

FFS, blinded by the announcement, just like everyone else; labour still cannot accept something for the people receiving a benefit with good grace.

My question is; as labour purports to be the party for the disenfranchised, why did they not increase the benefit during their terms of government (when delivery nine straight budget surpluses)especially when the National government can manage an 8% increase for these people on benefit after emerging from the greatest downturn in the worlds finances in 80 years?
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May 22, 2015 8:01am
Paulus Gnome

Cyclists being clean, green and injuring small children.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11452844

Shared spaces my arse; how do cyclists expect other road users to give them the respect and space that they demand when involved in incidents like this while riding on a footpath?
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May 22, 2015 8:02am
stigie

Thought this was a fair and balanced comment from Ben at the Stranded.

“Completely political? So are you saying that there was external influence from the Govt, or that the MediaWorks board are all right-wingers and simply didn’t like JC’s politics? MediaWorks is answerable to the shareholders (which I’m sure include left supporters), and if CL was turning a profit it would be a big call to forgo that profit due to political leanings. Irrespective of JC’s political bent, what it boiled down to is that he’d had his day and it was time to try something new. In case you missed it, MediaWorks is in financial strife”.

“When Henry and/or Hosking get the axe, it will be for financial reasons, and even if Labour are in power at the time the last excuse you will hear from the right was that it was due to political influence”.
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May 22, 2015 8:04am
Manolo

Clever pisstake: http://freebeacon.com/politics/anti-stephanopoulos-artwork-posted-near-abc-news-headquarters-in-manhattan/
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May 22, 2015 8:05am
oldpark

Meanwhile at parliaments tuck shop, a person, the reincarnation of friar tuck,and Kim Jung-un lookalike from the green/mcgillycuddy serious party Materialistic Turei ,is berating John Key for not feeding the starving and raggy NZ children enough. Materialistic Turei ,who looks like she never missed a meal in her life,is a shining example of institutional hypocrisy.
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May 22, 2015 8:08am
RRM

So it’s day 1 of the brave new world, in which three hundred thousand low income families are $20 to $25 better off per week… that being, of course, enough to buy a big box of weet bix and plenty of milk to put it in.

So by rights, EVERYONE who couldn’t afford to feed his kids breakfast before, CAN now. BOOM. Sorted.

I look forward to the IMMEDIATE cessation of the left’s “CHILD POVERTY” meme…
and their “KIDS CAN’T LEARN WHEN THEY’RE HUNGRY” meme..
and their “JOHN KEY DOESN’T CARE” meme.

But instead, I logged onto the internet this morning, and the left still hate John Key; I guess there is no pleasing political idealogues?
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May 22, 2015 8:09am
kowtow

More PC bullshit.

“…..while Dunedin police will be out on the streets wearing the official pink shirts.”

FFS we don’t see plod “out on the streets”. But that’s OK they’re wearing pink shirts.
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May 22, 2015 8:10am
Lance

@Paulus Gnome

The actions of this arse on a bike makes all bike riders guilty?

FFS

I don’t blame all drivers for the actions of the shitheads I frequently encounter on the road. But maybe you do?
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May 22, 2015 8:17am
oldpark

Noticed the Trade Union infested Main Stream Media. Just to name a few. From the Australian owned Fairfax newspapers,and another Australian owned group, NZ Herald and Newstalk ZB. The Canadian owned TV3 and even the Liebour Party Channel TVNZ. They were and still are desperate, for some way to kneecap the budget for the poor, the Media purveyors of hate against John Key and the National Party, have been trumped, by John Key and Bill English, GAME ,SET, AND MATCH.
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May 22, 2015 8:18am
Odakyu-sen

The percentage of 20% for “Asians” in the general NZ population might not seem like much as first, but consider this:

1. We are concentrated in Auckland and will continue to do so
2. We are concentrated in the “nerdy” operations sectors (IT, medicine, engineering, accounting, tech, etc.)
3. Our children will move from operations to key management and policy-making areas
4. Check and mate to the old troughers (and welcome to the new ones) (human nature being what it is)

Don’t worry. The white baby boomers can make millions from the sale of their houses, and then they can retire in rest homes on leased iwi land overlooking views of Rangitoto.
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May 22, 2015 8:19am
stephieboy

Now that the demise of Campbell live is official we can now look forward to the recruitment of two co hosts with some real hard talk silly infotainment ,laced with mindless giggling pitched to Conservative Party types who regularly ” contribute ” here .Featuring their ” deep and thoughtful ” litanies from the old empire and fossil monarchy..

Maybe there could also be room on the new ” got talent ” show for our David Icke and Jeff Resne wannabes as well ?
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May 22, 2015 8:20am
kowtow

Multiculturalism and third world immigration, so enriiiiiiching.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3091564/Black-cab-driver-built-vicious-IEDs-killed-soldier.html
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May 22, 2015 8:21am
RRM

DPF –

My apologies for reporting as offensive, Paulus Gnome’s post about the cyclist. I was trying to up-tick it and fumbled…
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May 22, 2015 8:22am
Keeping Stock

@ RRM – it seems that your transition over to the Dark Side is now complete, and you see the hysterical, hypocritical and hypercritical Left for what it is.

Well done Sir; life in Wairarapa must be suiting you 😀
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May 22, 2015 8:24am
RRM

You are too kind KS.
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May 22, 2015 8:27am
Keeping Stock

@ Oldpark – it was amusing to watch One News last night. Once Katie Bradford had finished summarising all of what she interpreted as the worst features of the Budget in the most negative of terms, who should be next on screen but her mother, berating the Government for not acting to eliminate child poverty.

Perhaps the interview with Bradford Snr was pre-recorded 😀
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May 22, 2015 8:27am
Paulus

I would believe that RNZ has spent all night finding people who think that whatever the Government, and me as a positive Taxpayer, the increases in benefits, and all the attached benefits (25% of income in rents levels) is not enough.
The American woman they now have as ? Social welfare ? reporter went out of her way, with the Wellington dumb blond, to find people who want at least $100 increase – and NOW.
Our Me Me Me Society – get a job is the easier option. Governments no longer, in this country, provide jobs – the days of Railway jobs for life as an example went out with the Lange Government. Businesses make jobs where shareholders put up their money and employ people. People have forgotten there is no such thing as a free breakfast or school lunch, during the term.

Sadly, this is a Labour budget.
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May 22, 2015 8:28am
Lance

@stephieboy

Re: the demise of Campbell Live

A live feed of grass growing would be an improvement
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May 22, 2015 8:28am
Paulus

Yesterday I balled out the Tauranga Hospital for their parking arrangements where it is possible to circle for 40 minutes to find a legal park, due to the many many staff taking up all the space.

I now apologies

I now know last week staff are forbidden to use one large main park which is for patients only (plus visiting Consultants in their reserved space).

I have been told that many staff are not happy although a large space has been created for them, but it is a dark route, after dark, and is almost 10 minutes walk. Street lights are to be installed very soon.

However other staff have said how good this is as they are tired of late appointments and being growled at constantly.
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May 22, 2015 8:39am
Albert_Ross

Anybody know anything about the black vehicle, number place 666 I and a picture of robots under the slogan “Exterminate Kim Dot Com” on the side, seen in Wellington this morning?

All in favour of free speech, and have no time whatsoever for Kim Dot Com. But are we really OK with public endorsement of the capital punishment of a specific named individual?
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May 22, 2015 8:40am
RRM

Maybe they could get you instead stephieboy?

There aren’t enough blinkered, bitter and twisted leftists presenting “the news” already. We need more…
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May 22, 2015 8:48am
Manolo

Grant Robertson must be keeping a close eye on the outcome, because here the unions elected Angry Andy.

The battles within UK Labour continue: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11621084/Len-McCluskey-attempting-to-sabotage-the-Labour-leadership-contest-Liz-Kendall-says.html

Len McCluskey is attempting to “sabotage” the Labour leadership contest, Liz Kendall has said as she warned that trade union bosses must not determine who wins.

The Labour health minister pledged to fight defence cuts, back free schools and give “radial devolution” to England if she became leader in an open pitch to Tory voters.
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May 22, 2015 8:48am
Inandout

Manolo: Grant and Lisa Owen thought they were off air, but they weren’t. It is a fascinating insight into how chummy these reporters are with Labour politicians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmR7l3mv2wE
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May 22, 2015 8:55am
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

Keeping Stock (9,933 comments) says:
May 22nd, 2015 at 8:27 am
Perhaps the interview with Bradford Snr was pre-recorded
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Sue Bradford is like a broken record, just repeating & shrieking the same old fairy tale = Left is good – John Key is bad.
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May 22, 2015 9:21am
Keeping Stock

Quite so Inandout – these “spontaneous” interviews are anything but, when the interviewer and interviewee have a chummy conversation beforehand where the latter tells the former what questions to ask.

This is an own goal for The Nation, and I can’t imagine Paddy Gower ever extending the same privilege of a “soft” interview to the likes of the PM or Bill English. Whoever recorded and released that exchange has done us all a great service.
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May 22, 2015 9:22am
OneTrack

stigie – “Thought this was a fair and balanced comment from Ben at the Stranded.”

How long was he banned for?
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May 22, 2015 9:25am
Fraggle

Thanks for that Inandout. Hilarious!! Lisa Owen showing her true colour – red.
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May 22, 2015 9:26am
Manolo

The White House says “is worried”:
http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2015/05/21/news/_palmira_e_caduta_lo_stato_islamico_controlla_tutta_la_citta_a_soli_200_km_da_damasco-114885499/?ref=HRER3-1
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May 22, 2015 9:27am
dime

Good Morning,

My name is Dime and I am a National Voter.

It has been 245 days since I last voted for National.

Although I wasn’t overly proud at the time, I didn’t hit rock bottom until yesterday.

I have managed to pull myself back up out of the gutter and have committed to voting ACT!

I am hoping Redbaiter or Manolo will be my sponsor and keep me from voting National next time around.

I hope that one day I will be forgiven for my sin.
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May 22, 2015 9:36am
kowtow

Taxpayers’ Alliance might want to look this one up.
Was any tax money spent on shirts etc for all these public servants to dress up on one day of the year to show their concern for one particular type of rudeness?

And how many person hours went into the logistics of delivering and briefing on same?

http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/defence-force-tackles-bulling-for-pink-shirt-day-2015052205#axzz3anze3gYT
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May 22, 2015 9:37am
Inandout

Manolo: I wonder if Obama is a Sunni or Shiite lite?
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May 22, 2015 9:39am
hj

The notion of Asian Invasion was considered to be racist, but the inference was (I think) that it was scare mongering. Now the message is that it is happening but is a good thing. Good for whom?
This demonstrates the way elites can use media control to stiffle critisim.
Pink shirt day is another example of silly cultural engineering.
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May 22, 2015 9:42am
Manolo

I wonder if Obama is a Sunni or Shiite?

The faction does not matter, as long as it ruins the United States.

@dime: You can count on my steadfast support. One should never vote National (nor Labour), because these two socialist parties are bad for the economy. NZ will thank you. 🙂
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May 22, 2015 9:44am
hj

The way to stop bullying is to deal with it yourself (don’t pay the bully).
Cognitive behavioual psychology should be in the school curriculum.
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May 22, 2015 9:49am
stigie

@Dime Your past and future sins will all be forgiven my son !~
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May 22, 2015 9:50am
Manolo

Only in Italy:
http://roma.repubblica.it/cronaca/2015/05/21/foto/san_pietro_visuale_incartata_quella_pubblicita_oscura_il_panorama_del_cupolone_-114922138/1/?ref=HRESS-4#1
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May 22, 2015 9:58am
Gulag1917

What people always suspected
Bush CIA Deputy Director Admits We Were Lied Into Iraq War
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/20/1386107/-Bush-CIA-Deputy-Director-Admits-We-Were-Lied-Into-Iraq-War
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May 22, 2015 10:00am
chuk

Susie Ferguson interviewing the Childrens Commissioner on red radio this morning started off one question by saying something along the lines of “what else should be done, I mean, more money obviously…………….” WTF!!!
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May 22, 2015 10:05am
jcuk

Those concerned about the Pacific Trade deal might be interested in this report from the NYT…..
Those amendments include a bipartisan push to demand that any trade deal address the intentional manipulation of currency rates, as well as a proposal by Senator Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts, to strip from the Pacific trade deal a chapter granting corporations the right to challenge regulations in member nations that harm the value of their investments.

one can only hope that she wins this one,
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May 22, 2015 10:14am
stephieboy

hj, in what ways are “the elites and media stifling ” your criticism of the so called Asian invasion ??
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May 22, 2015 10:14am
Manolo

The Clintows OWN this well-paid “journalist” ($105 million for a 7-year contract):
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/418513/stephanopouloss-long-long-record-loyal-service-clintons-john-fund?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral

f George Stephanopoulos had simply donated $75,000 to the Clinton Foundation while also serving as one of its favorite media panelists, the controversy over his conflicts of interest would be much less. Stephanopoulos would be guilty of a clear error, but he also would have had a lot of media company.
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May 22, 2015 10:15am
stephieboy

Ugly Truth, wiki, Reid , EAD etc,

This from TM,

“How ironic is that? He must have been pretty frustrated by all the tin foil hat wearers wanting to give the US government credit for his work!”

http://time.com/3890945/osama-bin-laden-books/
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May 22, 2015 10:28am
Viking2

dime (10,959 comments) says:
May 22nd, 2015 at 9:36 am

Good Morning,

My name is Dime and I am a National Voter.

It has been 245 days since I last voted for National.

Although I wasn’t overly proud at the time, I didn’t hit rock bottom until yesterday.

I have managed to pull myself back up out of the gutter and have committed to voting ACT!

I am hoping Redbaiter or Manolo will be my sponsor and keep me from voting National next time around.

I hope that one day I will be forgiven for my sin.

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.Hey dime. I will will keep you to it. Its all very easy. The rest are thieves. Act operates on principle.
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May 22, 2015 10:59am
Viking2

John Campbell TV3 departure: He’s no different to a can of soup

: As one of the country’s oldest employed journalists — I am an ancient 57 — still reasonably active in a functioning newsroom, I am full of admiration for John Campbell.

Unfortunately, and this is no reflection on him or the rest of his Campbell Live team, I hardly ever watch him. I have more or less stopped watching broadcast television news altogether for various reasons, but mainly because most of it makes me almost physically ill.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/68765237/john-campbell-tv3-departure-hes-no-different-to-a-can-of-soup
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One day a rooster, next day a feather duster.

http://bit.ly/1LqGOC4
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May 22, 2015 11:04am
Inandout

V2: You are not the only ex National voter breathing this morning.
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May 22, 2015 11:05am
Viking2

Inandout (840 comments) says:
May 22nd, 2015 at 11:05 am

V2: You are not the only ex National voter breathing this morning.
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Well I dis-pared after lots of you defected to the nice man on the left.
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May 22, 2015 11:13am
kowtow

One day a rooster, next day a feather duster.

But always a cock.
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May 22, 2015 11:14am
Manolo

Multiculturalism the way stephieboy likes it: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3091750/EXPOSED-Plot-lure-girl-16-Jihadi-bride-Mail-probe-foils-British-woman-s-bid-recruit-sister.html

Counter-terror officers swooped on the 16-year-old girl’s family home after the Mail passed on evidence she was planning to run away to Syria next week. She was being lured by her older sister, who is today revealed as a prolific IS recruiter who fled her London home last year to be a jihadi bride.
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May 22, 2015 11:27am
stephieboy

kowtow, as you will see the British did not introduced conscription until Jan 1916 . Prior to that a volunteer army was used including those British and Irish regiments who fought so bravely and well at Gallipoli .

Ar we to believe those consrripts after Jan 1916 were somehow cowardly and not up to it as the case in NZ ?

http://ww1facts.net/people/conscription/

His Majesty’s Government well understood the complicated political situation in Ireland during the war and having due regard to it when recruiting . But you of course naturally don’t
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May 22, 2015 11:33am
kowtow

stehpie ,you’re being complete dick. My comment was in relation to consription (or the lack of it)in ireland and Ireland only.

Mind you Ireland’s been fucked up by your maties too.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/court-refuses-us-order-to-extradite-irish-citizen-1.2221320
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May 22, 2015 11:40am
wikiriwhis business

The Senate continued working on fast-track trade authority promotion legislation. Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) spoke for approximately 10 hours and 30 minutes in opposition to provisions in the PATRIOT Act related to National Security Agency (NSA) surveillance.

The Kentucky Republican and 2016 presidential candidate rose to his feet on the Senate floor Wednesday at 1:18 p.m. ET to speak in opposition to the NSA surveillance program provisions in the PATRIOT Act. He was joined by several other senators throughout the day until he finally yielded the floor ten and a half hours later at 11:48 p.m. ET. Here are those remarks in their entirety.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4538489/senator-rand-paul-complete-remarks-nsa-surveillance
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May 22, 2015 12:14pm
Manolo

Thousand have joined the animals: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150521/eu-jihads-legionnaires-3746f9190e.html

And there have been many, many more: between 16,000 and 17,000, according to one independent Western estimate, men and a small number of women from 90 countries or more who have streamed to Syria and Iraq to wage Muslim holy war for the Islamic State.
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May 22, 2015 12:24pm
wellygirl

Inandout @ 8.55am,

I wonder what the reaction on the left would be if a recording of a journalist asking John Key or Bill English what they wanted to discuss in an interview came to light, there would be demands of resignations and accusations of Dirty Politics.

This is a really bad look for Lisa Owen. A journalist should be making the decision on what to ask the politician (with their producer), not asking the politician what they want to talk about, it doesn’t hold out much hope for her holding them to account when Labour are back in Government.
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May 22, 2015 12:46pm
Paulus Gnome

‘ it doesn’t hold out much hope for her holding them to account when Labour are back in Government.’

Lisa Owen will be able to use her zimmer as a mike stand
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May 22, 2015 1:00pm
Inandout

wellygirl: The MSM, as we have been aware, are mainly solidly left in their politics and this reinforces it. Thank goodness for the internet or this cock up would have been wiped and the public would be none the wiser.
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May 22, 2015 1:06pm
wikiriwhis business

Matt Taibbi: World’s Largest Banks Admit to Massive Global Financial Crimes, But Escape Jail (Again)

Five of the world’s top banks will pay over $5 billion in fines after pleading guilty to rigging the price of foreign currencies and interest rates. Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase, Barclays and Royal Bank of Scotland pleaded guilty to conspiring to manipulate the price of U.S. dollars and euros exchanged in the $5 trillion FX spot market. UBS pleaded guilty for its role in manipulating the Libor benchmark interest rate. No individual bank employees were hit with criminal charges as part of the settlements. We are joined by Matt Taibbi, award-winning journalist with Rolling Stone magazine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R00VBj5ehk

Exactly where our PM comes from. Criminal fraudulence of immense international currency crime
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May 22, 2015 1:25pm
Yoza

stephieboy (5,494 comments) says:
May 22nd, 2015 at 10:28 am
Ugly Truth, wiki, Reid , EAD etc,

This from TM,

“How ironic is that? He must have been pretty frustrated by all the tin foil hat wearers wanting to give the US government credit for his work!”

http://time.com/3890945/osama-bin-laden-books/

Great to see them giving Noam Chomsky’s Necessary Illusions:Thought Control in Democratic Societies no.1 billing. Hopefully the publicity will see this fascinating insight of the propaganda industry reach a far wider audience.

In short, the major media are corporations “selling” privileged audiences to other businesses…. Media concentration is high, and increasing. Furthermore, those who occupy managerial positions in the media…belong to the same privileged elites, and might be expected to share the perceptions, aspirations, and attitudes of their associates, reflecting their own class interests as well. Journalists entering the system are unlikely to make their way unless they conform to these ideological pressures, generally by internalizing the values…. Those who fail to conform will be weeded out…
— from the Massey Lectures

Nice one, Time!
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May 22, 2015 1:26pm
wikiriwhis business

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R00VBj5ehk
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May 22, 2015 1:26pm
stephieboy

kowtow, get over it , The battle of the Boyne ( 1690 ) was fought long , long ago. Time to move on . The Queen and her son think so. Both would be bemused by both your quaintness and derangement
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May 22, 2015 1:28pm
Yoza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi1WVEhlMh0
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May 22, 2015 1:28pm
stephieboy

Yoza, as I may of pointed out to you before I find it rather ironic that Noam Chomsky condemns the very thing that guarantees him the freedom to spout forth his ideological nonsense and tirades from his citadel at MIT.
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May 22, 2015 1:33pm
Fletch

Turns out Osama Bin Laden’s compound library was full of books by left wing, anti-American conspiracy authors like Noam Chomsky, William Blum and Bob Woodward.

The English-language bookshelf in Usama bin Laden’s personal library featured a collection of anti-U.S. polemics and left-wing conspiracy theories from some celebrated darlings of American academia, according to critics who analyzed the terror mastermind’s reading list.

Anti-American conspiracy tomes on everything from the CIA to the Federal Reserve were among the 39 English books seized from the Al Qaeda leader’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, where a team of Navy SEALs took him out in May 2011.

Noam Chomsky, William Blum and Bob Woodward appeared to be among the terrorist kingpin’s favorite authors to curl up with. Chomsky, the liberal icon and MIT professor known for his disparaging view of the U.S., had two of his works in the Bin Laden collection, “Necessary Illusions: Thought Control in Democratic Societies” and “Hegemony or Survival: America’s Quest for Global Dominance.”

It was already known that bin Laden was a big fan of Blum, a onetime State Department employee who became disillusioned during the Vietnam War and became a harsh critic of U.S. foreign policy. Blum’s “Rogue State: A Guide to the World’s Only Superpower” and “Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions since World War II” were recovered from Bin Laden’s compound.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/05/21/bin-laden-bookshelf-stuffed-with-anti-american-conspiracy-works-by-lefty-us/
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May 22, 2015 1:37pm
stephieboy

Fletch , what are suggesting then ? Chomsky and coy should be burnt at the stake ?

Is the 2nd Amendment another communist progressive plot ?
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May 22, 2015 1:40pm
Fletch

stephie, I’m just saying that I am not surprised at his reading material; that Bin Laden and other terrorists have thoughts in common with diehard lefties. Is it any surprise that the Left defend Islam as they do? They think the same.
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May 22, 2015 1:57pm
Yoza

stephieboy (5,497 comments) says:
May 22nd, 2015 at 1:33 pm

Yoza, as I may of pointed out to you before I find it rather ironic that Noam Chomsky condemns the very thing that guarantees him the freedom to spout forth his ideological nonsense and tirades from his citadel at MIT.

I have never once heard Noam Chomsky condemn that which allows him to speak freely. You could not find anywhere Chomsky condemning those who struggled against authority for the right to speak freely. Our right to free speech is an unending battle against concentrated power. Those powerful special interests are determined to protect their centers of privilege in society and they ensure their narrative dominates society with a ruthless corporate efficiency.

The most effective way to control dissenting voices is to marginalise them and ‘weed them out’, the professional classes either conform or are ‘cleansed’ from the system. Jeff Schmidt makes the point in Disciplied Minds; Chapt. 1. Ideology and Professionals:

“For understanding the professional, the concept of “ideology” will emerge as much more useful than that of “skill.” But what is ideology, exactly? Ideology is thought that justifies action, including routine day-to-day activity. It is your ideology that determines your gut reaction to something done, say, by the president (you feel it is right or wrong), by protesters (you feel it is justified or unjustified), by your boss (you feel it is fair or unfair), by a coworker (you feel it is reasonable or unreasonable) and so on. More importantly, your ideology justifies your own actions to yourself. Economics may bring you back to your employer day after day, but it is ideology that makes that activity feel like a reasonable or unreasonable way to spend your life.

Work in general is becoming more and more ideological, and so is the workforce that does it. As technology has made production easier, employment has shifted from factories to offices, where work revolves around inherently ideological activities, such as design, analysis, writing, accounting, marketing and other creative tasks. Of course, ideology has been a workplace issue all along: Employers have always scrutinized the attitudes and values of the people they hire, to protect themselves from unionists, radicals and others whose “bad attitude” would undermine workplace discipline. Today, however, for a relatively small but rapidly growing fraction of jobs, employers will carefully assess your attitude for an additional reason: its crucial role in the work itself. On these jobs, which are in every field, from journalism and architecture to education and commercial art, your view of the world threatens to affect not only the quantity and quality of what you produce, but also the very nature of the product. These jobs require strict adherence to an assigned point of view, and so a prerequisite for employment is the willingness and ability to exercise what I call ideological discipline.

This book is about the people who get these jobs and become members of the ideological workforce — that is, professionals. My thesis is that the criteria by which individuals are deemed qualified or unqualified to become professionals involve not just technical knowledge as is generally assumed, but also attitude—in particular, attitude toward working within an assigned political and ideological framework. I contend, for example, that all tests of technical knowledge, such as the Graduate Record Examinations (GRE) or the Law School Admission Test (LSAT), are at the same time tests of attitude and that the examinations used to assess professional qualification are no exception. I consider in detail how the neutral-looking technical questions on such examinations probe the candidate’s attitude. The qualifying attitude, I find, is an uncritical, subordinate one, which allows professionals to take their ideological lead from their employers and appropriately fine-tune the outlook that they bring to their work. The resulting professional is an obedient thinker, an intellectual property whom employers can trust to experiment, theorize, innovate and create safely within the confines of an assigned ideology. The political and intellectual timidity of today’s most highly educated employees is no accident.”

‘Freedom of speech’ in the mouths of establishment shills is the nauseating miasma of an alien culture.
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May 22, 2015 2:15pm
SGA

Fletch at 1:57 pm

I’m just saying that I am not surprised at his reading material; that Bin Laden and other terrorists have thoughts in common with diehard lefties. Is it any surprise that the Left defend Islam as they do? They think the same.

Well, yesterday Manolo was pointing out that Bin Laden was also apparently captivated by conspiracy theory – secret societies, the Illuminati, satanic forces, new world order, Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins (a white supremacist and Holocaust denier). He had copies of New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11 by David Ray Griffin. Did he think the same as them too?
I’ve also read that there was a certain amount of pornography 🙂
Be interesting to see a list of everything (except, of course, the porn 🙂 ) rather than a few titles cherry-picked to make a point.
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May 22, 2015 2:18pm
Tauhei Notts

MISERLY GOV’T RESTRICTS JOB TRAINING
The Green Party was highly critical of the government being so slow in taking steps to expand the farriers’ courses at institutions of tertiary education. This followed on from the Budget delivered earlier this week where the Gov’t promised a free pony to each young person.
Greens spokesperson Ms U Gly said that there was a huge shortage of hoof trimmers in the country and the Gummint should do something about it.
…………..
That’s how I think it would have been reported if Bill English had given every child a pony.
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May 22, 2015 2:20pm
Clemgeopin

A nice cartoon for you. You are welcome.
http://thewireless.co.nz/articles/the-pencilsword-on-a-plate
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May 22, 2015 2:32pm
kowtow

stephie

I’ve been to the battle ground ,have you?

Time to move on? I don’t think so. That victory was very important to our constitutional arrangements .
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May 22, 2015 2:40pm
Scott Chris

I hope that one day I will be forgiven for my sin.

All good Dime. A vote for ACT is a proxy vote for the Nats anyways. Just steer clear of CCCP and you’ll be sweet!
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May 22, 2015 2:57pm
stephieboy

kowtow, no I’ve not been there .Irrelevant . Yes it might of been important in our constitutional arrangements including statutes like the British Roman Catholic Relief Act 1791 which emancipated Catholics.

Not their continued oppression by many Protestant Lloyalists like it it seem you !.
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May 22, 2015 2:57pm
kowtow

Any lesson here for labour Lite and its Maori driven attack on private property rights?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11621804/Tobacco-companies-prepare-multi-billion-compensation-claims-over-UK-plain-packaging.html
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May 22, 2015 3:38pm
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

Fuck the mainstream media are hopeless !!!!

Re the Blessie case of rape, murder –
On stuff “After three hours of deliberation the jury of 12 returned with their verdicts in the High Court at Auckland”
The horrid “After just under two hours of deliberation, they returned the unanimous verdicts in front of a packed public gallery in the High Court at Auckland.”

Yes they are both reporting on the same event, with reporters in the courtroom !
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May 22, 2015 3:43pm
Fletch

This is what it has come to. A pair of lesbians getting “married” commission engagement rings for themselves for their wedding from a jeweler who happens to be Christian. He does the work for them without complaint, and so well that they recommend him to their friends. One of the friends goes in and sees a poster on the wall of the jeweler promoting traditional marriage between one man and one woman. This is enough for the lesbian couple to kick up a shitstorm and demand (and finally get) a refund.

[The jeweler] Jardon said he won’t apologize for his beliefs.

“I feel really bad that [White] feels that we would in any way try to hurt or discriminate against her, but we will not retract from what we believe. I cannot say, ‘Well because you feel bad, I will stop believing what I believe,’” he said.

“When I walk on Church Street in Toronto, where I am right now, and I see [LGBT rainbow flags], and I see a lot of signs and a lot of things on public property, I don’t have a problem with them. I accept it. I chose to come to Canada… and we accept the whole package… I don’t discriminate against that, nor do I come and tell them to take them down. For the same reason, I ask to have the same respect in return, especially when it’s in my own business.”

But, after dealing with online bullying and threats, Jardon decided this week to refund the deposit to the couple:

“However, due to posting our religious beliefs, many people in Newfoundland want us to shut down business — that’s what they’ve been telling us.”

He said some threats came with names and others were anonymous.

“One of them states that ‘you better give them the money back or you will be very, very sorry,’” he said.

Let’s understand what happened here. This Christian jeweler agreed to custom-make engagement rings for a lesbian couple, knowing that they were a couple, and treated them politely. But when they found out what he really believed about same-sex marriage, even though the man gave them polite service, and agreed to sell them what they asked for, the lesbian couple balked, and demanded their money back — and the mob threatened the business if they didn’t yield. Which, of course, he did.

You understand, of course, that this is not about getting equal treatment. The lesbian couple received that. This is about demonizing a point of view, and driving those who hold it out of the public square. Just so we’re clear about that.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/heads-christians-win-tails-they-lose/

See, it’s not enough for gays to get equal service from a Christian business. Now the business must believe what they believe or else their work is somehow tainted and a refund must be asked for and given.
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May 22, 2015 3:45pm
Fletch

Cartoon for today – Obama’s legacy.

http://s1.legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Iraq-Legacy-600-LI.jpg
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May 22, 2015 4:15pm
wreck1080

Oh how i’ve wanted to comment on the blessie murder case — this fucking animal makes me puke and the details of what he did to this poor woman are horrific.

He is a classic example of why we should have the death penalty.

And, the way this coward made such obvious lies to defend himself shows he is also a narcissist.

Lock him up for life and throw away the key and hopefully another prisoner will quietly dispatch him to a more deserving place.

And, he is obviously facing other serious crimes too.
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May 22, 2015 4:19pm
Manolo

The crooked Clintons claimed they were broke: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-foundation-reveals-up-to-26million-in-additional-payments/2015/05/21/e49da740-0009-11e5-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html

The Clinton Foundation reported Thursday that it has received as much as $26.4 million in previously undisclosed payments from major corporations, universities, foreign sources and other groups.

The disclosure came as the foundation faced questions over whether it fully complied with a 2008 ethics agreement to reveal its donors and whether any of its funding sources present conflicts of interest for Hillary Rodham Clinton as she begins her presidential campaign.
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May 22, 2015 4:42pm
mandk

@ Fletch,

Sadly, this is just another case of homo-fascism at work.

We see daily examples of it.
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May 22, 2015 4:57pm
kowtow

“He is a classic example of why we should have the death penalty.”

Too right!
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May 22, 2015 5:32pm
nasska

Alarm clock for the unemployed…..

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rfhust3dqctdezp/Beneficiary%20Alarm%20Clock.jpg?dl=0
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May 22, 2015 7:01pm
stigie

http://fmobserver.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Oscar_the_Grouch.jpg

Andrew’s been very confused today !!
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May 22, 2015 7:08pm
wikiriwhis business

Let’s just keep blaming all of those “lazy poor people”, those “food-stamp-using” folks, and the “homeless druggies” out on the streets.

Alternatively, these mafia-like banking cartels will also start blaming the “illegal immigrants” pouring in from Mexico, for our economy’s deterioration, and have us believe that it’s THEIR fault, too.

Too bad that the majority of the people in this country seem to be oblivious (or quickly forget) that the very REASON so many Mexicans are desperately shoving across the boarder is because THEIR own local economies have been exploited and ravaged by these very same corporate-elitist cancers.

Not to mention, many “Mexicans” are actually descendants of the Native people who once occupied this vast territory. Thus, they actually have more “citizenship rights” to live here than ANY white European does.

Accusing them as being “illegal immigrants” … is like walking into someone’s home, unannounced (who’s doors were already opened to you, by the way), kicking them out of their own home instead of being a gracious guest, occupying it for yourself, then when their offspring try to return to that home centuries later and ask to move back into it (at least SHARE that home with you), we call it “unlawful”, treat THEM as the “criminals”, and demand that they obtain special permission (a “citizenship”) to do it?

Hello?!

Is the majority of the public THAT lacking in knowledge of their own early “Colonial” history?

Well, hey, who needs to bother with independently researching that on their own time, when we simply can take in the “gospel truth” of what we are being told by our politicians and the big-industry power players?

(“Those dirty, rotten, stinkin’, no-good, illegal Mexicans.”)

WHAT IT MEANS FOR A GIANT BANK TO PLEAD GUILTY TO A CRIMINAL CHARGE

Today, five major U.S. and European banks – including giant Citicorp and JPMorgan Chase — agreed to plead guilty to criminal charges and pay more than $5 billion in penalties to settle charges their traders manipulated the $5.3-trillion-a-day foreign exchange currency market for the banks’ profit. Their self-described “cartel” used an exclusive electronic chat room and coded language to manipulate national exchange rates in ways that benefited their own trading positions. It’s one of the biggest bank swindles of all times.

But is any top executive going to jail? Not a chance. Black and Latino teenagers are locked up for selling ounces of marijuana. Bankers who fleece the rest of us for trillions of dollars get fat bonuses. Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan (pictured below), has been lobbying on Capitol Hill to roll back the Dodd-Frank Act and eviscerate other bank regulations. If, as the Supreme Court says, corporations are people, then when Citicorp and JPMorgan plead guilty to criminal charges their top brass (including Dimon) should feel the pinch.
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May 22, 2015 7:11pm
Sir Leslie Bottocks

NZ Music Month.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUk4rjcHa50
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May 22, 2015 7:18pm
wikiriwhis business

YouTube censors discussion on Global Debt Facility, Account No. TVM-LSM-666 https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter5.21.15.1.pdf
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May 22, 2015 7:18pm
Brigitte

@Bottocks

With the late great Bruno Laurence on drums.
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May 22, 2015 9:34pm
Fraggle

Re Fletch at 3:45 pm http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/heads-christians-win-tails-they-lose/

That is just un-fucking-believable!!!!!
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