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May 17, 2015 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 17 May 2015

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Shawn Herles

“So what’s the story about Anton Levay’s church, Shawn?”

Look them up Ugly. I just don’t take them seriously as a magickal group. Or as Satanists for that matter.

There are actually very few genuine Satanist groups in the world, and apart from one I know of, the ONA, they don’t have web sites.

And in case you missed my reply, I have never been a member of Levay’s group.
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May 17, 2015 8:27pm
sam green

@UT
No they don’t.
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May 17, 2015 8:31pm
Dennis Horne

Johnboy’s not really up to scratch
No gal would regard him as a catch
So he shags his sheep
‘Cos they are meek
He knows in me he has met his match
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May 17, 2015 8:34pm
Johnboy

“He knows in me he has met his match”

Are you proposing to me in your capacity as a lady sheep Dennis? 🙂
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May 17, 2015 8:36pm
Dennis Horne

No, I’m referring to your flying! 🙂
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May 17, 2015 8:40pm
Johnboy

An sad aviator named Horne
Wished he had never been born
As crashed his old kite
Into the shite
And faced real aviators true scorn! 🙂
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May 17, 2015 8:43pm
Johnboy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qqVRBZO5gc
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May 17, 2015 8:57pm
Johnboy

Neither of us have probably ever done the above Dennis but we have in our dreams! 🙂
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May 17, 2015 8:59pm
Dennis Horne

A ba ba black sheep called Johnboy
Thought he knew how to annoy
But in his inimitable way
It was just horse play
So I kicked the foot stool he used away
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May 17, 2015 9:00pm
Sir Leslie Bottocks

NZ Music Month.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsjF-vOqkSw
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May 17, 2015 9:06pm
Johnboy

Your rhyme and meter ranks with your flight plan and fuel loading Dennis! 🙂
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May 17, 2015 9:08pm
cha

Come at me bro – steppes!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQFbpZCYC0E
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May 17, 2015 9:08pm
Dennis Horne

Read the true story in the coming July/August Vector, Ba-Ba:
https://www.caa.govt.nz/safety_info/vector.htm
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May 17, 2015 9:14pm
Johnboy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYI735Y0dDA
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May 17, 2015 9:14pm
Johnboy

Always had the hots for Sue. Pete was sexy too! 🙂
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May 17, 2015 9:15pm
Johnboy

Shit someones hacking my Chicks video???

I’ll try again
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May 17, 2015 9:23pm
Lucia Maria

Andrei,

Lucia Maria – the Ukrainian Government was overthrown by violence in February 2014 and unconstitutionally replaced by one handpicked by Washington DC consisting almost entirely of people from Western Ukraine, the appointed Prime Minister being a Romanian Jew who could not muster 7% of the votes in the preceding election.

This has not unsurprisingly lead to civil war. chaos and the ruin of the country

Yep, that’s the Russian story. The real story is …

In late 2013 and early 2014, the attempt to bring Ukraine within the Eurasian orbit produced exactly the opposite result. First, Russia publically dissuaded Yanukovych from signing a trade agreement with the EU. This brought protests in Ukraine. Then Russia offered a large loan and favourable gas prices in exchange for crushing the protests. Russian-style laws introduced in January transformed the protests into a mass movement. Millions of people who had joined in peaceful protests were suddenly transformed into criminals and some of them began to defend themselves against the police. Finally, Russia made clear, both privately and publically, that Yanukovych had to clear Kyiv of protestors in order to receive the money. Then followed the sniper massacre of February, which gave the revolutionaries a clear moral and political victory, and forced Yanukovych to flee to Russia. The Eurasian Union could only be a club of dictatorships, but the attempt to create dictatorship in Ukraine led to an outcome exactly the opposite of what was desired: the return of parliamentary rule, the announcement of presidential elections, and a foreign policy oriented towards Europe. None of this would have happened without the spontaneous self-organization of millions of Ukrainians on the Maidan in Kyiv and throughout the country.

This made the revolution in Ukraine not only a disaster for Russian foreign policy, but a challenge to the Russian regime at home. The weakness of Putin’s policy is that it cannot account for the actions of free human beings who choose to organize themselves in response to unpredictable historical events. Its strength is its tactical dexterity and ideological shamelessness. Thus Eurasia was very quickly modified: it was no longer a dictators’ club and the attempt to destroy the EU, but rather the attempt to destabilize the Ukrainian state and the EU at the same time. Russian propaganda presented the Ukrainian revolution as a Nazi coup and blamed Europeans for supporting these supposed Nazis. This version, although ridiculous, was much more comfortable in Putin’s mental world, since it removed from view the debacle of Russian foreign policy in Ukraine, and replaced spontaneous action by Ukrainians with foreign conspiracies.

The Russian invasion and occupation of the Ukrainian province of Crimea was a frontal challenge to the European security order as well as to the Ukrainian state. It created the temptation for Germans and others to return to the traditional world of colonial thinking, ignoring decades of law and regarding the Ukrainians as unworthy of statehood…

From Europe and Ukraine: Past and future.

And sweetheart there are American. Canadian and British troops in Ukraine which is a very very long way from USA, Canada and England but right on Russia’s doorstep.

Polish troops are going there soon to help the Ukrainians train as well. In the meantime, they’ve been busy organising things in their own country for their own defense, including setting up a ‘home army’ type underground. You’d kinda think they wouldn’t need to do this, but they seem to feel it’s necessary.

But of course Anglo Saxon Heretics have been appointed by God to rule the world or something

A number of Brits, Americans and Canadians aren’t Anglo Saxons… or heretics.
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May 17, 2015 9:35pm
Reid

On this Ukraine thing, everyone interested in it should read this.

http://russia-insider.com/en/what-does-putin-want-major-analysis-rostislav-ishchenko-must-read/6001
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May 17, 2015 10:03pm
cricko

We should never forget classics like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT72ytDpYcQ

Sadly, every song by a kiwi artist that made the charts here in the 60s and 70s was
a cover version of someone elses effort.

Even this utter crap by the Chicks was not origional.
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May 17, 2015 10:45pm
Manolo

Another corrupt politician from New York: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ALBANY_CORRUPTION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-16-11-46-09
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