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Shawn Herles

In reality PCT’s (Paranoid Conspiracy Theories) are not expose’s of what is going on the world, but stories trying to interpret what is going on in the world. They are belief systems that are part of a narrative, and they evolved in the West from Gnostic religious theology. PCT’s function as a religion for their followers.

This is why they must be taken on faith. And that is why, when you dig for evidence from a PCT follower, they in the end always fall back on the claim that if we just took the red pill, we would “get it.”
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May 16, 2015 2:23pm
EAD

A plan all of humanity can get behind :

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/08/proposed-declaration-of-war-against-the-rothschild-khazarian-mafia/
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May 16, 2015 2:24pm
Sponge

I see an article on the Herald about a Sikh who removed his turban to help a little boy who had been run over by a car. The article states how significant it is that he did this in public due to strict religious rules. So what do the Herald do? Publish a photo of the guy without his head covered. What fucking knobs.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11449538
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May 16, 2015 2:25pm
Johnboy

If the Greenies ever inherit Torquemada’s mantle (as they wish to) your burning body will add a few kJ to the suns effect Andrei! 🙂
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May 16, 2015 2:25pm
Shawn Herles

EAD claims: “A plan all of humanity can get behind :” then links to the rabidy anti-Jewish conspiracy site Veteran’s Today.

Notice that the Veteran’s Today article has a picture of an octopus with a Star of David on it, just so we are clear who the “enemy” is.

And “Rothschild” and “Kazarian” are code words for global Jewry.

So the plan EAD want’s us to get behind is to declare war on the Jews.

Sounds familiar. Typical Crypto-Nazi ideology.
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May 16, 2015 2:32pm
Reid

Here’s a useful outline of the NWO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrUXPn7HCjM

In reality PCT’s (Paranoid Conspiracy Theories) are not expose’s of what is going on the world, but stories trying to interpret what is going on in the world. They are belief systems that are part of a narrative, and they evolved in the West from Gnostic religious theology. PCT’s function as a religion for their followers.

People like Shawn who hallucinate things like what he just said, don’t understand what the issue is. For instance he would have no idea of the history Myron outlines for you in this video here. He hallucinates he knows, but conclusions like what he’s just said, indicates actually he knows nothing whatsoever about it.

And this is the issue, that most people who dismiss it actually don’t even know what they’re dismissing. This is because they get their information about what it is from disinformation agents with an agenda, rather than from the sources themselves. Well, here’s one of them. He names names, facts and places. Listen if you’re interested, don’t if you’re not. But if you’re not, then pray don’t pretend you know what the subject under discussion is, when the subject comes up.
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May 16, 2015 2:32pm
Reid

So the plan EAD want’s us to get behind is to declare war on the Jews.Sounds familiar.

This is what David Icke says in his book: And the truth shall set you free.

I stress here that to highlight the part played by the Rothschilds is not to cast
aspersions on Jewish people as a whole, the vast majority of whom have no idea
what is happening and certainly would not support it if they did know. Many of the
members of families I will name, like the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, and others, do
not know the game plan, either. It is those who control those empires that I am
seeking to expose, not everyone whose name is Rothschild, Rockefeller, or
whatever. I believe that researchers over the years who have blamed the entire
conspiracy on the Jewish people as a whole are seriously misguided; similarly, for
Jewish organisations to deny that any Jewish person is working for the New World
Order conspiracy is equally naive and allowing dogma or worse to blind them to
reality. We are looking at a common thread – a lust for power and the All-Seeing
Eye cult – which goes across all races

See, this is just an example of the profound and I mean profound ignorance that people like Shawn have on this subject. He doesn’t understand it at all, and he’s just demonstrated his profound misunderstanding on a very important aspect of it. And yet what’s the bet that even after being corrected on this aspect, he will nevertheless continue in his ignorance and continue to spray his lies and aspersions on this aspect all over the interweb, without let or pause.
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May 16, 2015 2:34pm
Andrei

The USA investing in the past and not in the future

Gov. Larry Hogan has decided to take $68 million that lawmakers set aside for schools and use it to shore up the state’s pension system instead — disappointing school officials in Baltimore and other large districts around the state.

He said giving the extra money to schools instead of putting it into what he said is an unfunded pension system would be “absolutely irresponsible, and it will not happen on my watch.”
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May 16, 2015 2:36pm
Shawn Herles

How conspiracy culture made anti-Semitism respectable

“The mainstreaming of conspiratorial thinking has been very bad news for Jews.”

“It is this mainstreaming of the conspiratorial imagination that explains the re-emergence, and the rising popularity, of the demonisation of Israel, Zionists and, sometimes, most tragically, the Jews. Throughout the twentieth century, conspiratorial thinking, which was then a pursuit of small, isolated groups, very often drew on the longstanding resources of anti-Semitism. For a fairly long time in Western societies, ‘The Jew’ had existed as a kind of sinister being, a corruptor of societies, depicted in some fringe literature as a money-hungry individual who could be held responsible for various nations’ economic and moral problems. Thus those who were given to conspiratorial thinking had a strong tendency to draw upon this rich resource of hateful literature in their search for The Thing that they could present as being in control of society. It is the same today: the rise and rise and mainstream embrace of conspiratorial thinking has led to a renewed plundering of the old resources of anti-Semitism in search of the cause of our current moral and economic malaise. Today, Israel or the Zionists, and sometimes explicitly the Jews, have become the vehicle through which the malevolent forces said to control all aspects of politics and life in general are given definition, a name, a face.”

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/how-conspiracy-culture-made-anti-semitism-respectable/14598
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May 16, 2015 2:42pm
Scott Chris

with a few exceptions people who describe themselves as “climate scientists” have an agenda to prove an hypothesis, that of AGW.

That doesn’t make sense to me Andrei. If I were a climate scientist why would I want to prove what everyone else believes? Surely I’d simply be interested in what I considered to be the truth?

Certainly people have a tendency to tread a well worn path but that’s because, 97% of the time, that is the right path to take. That’s why I’m sitting at a computer and not whacking 2 rocks together.
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May 16, 2015 2:42pm
Shawn Herles

Reid, if your spin on what EAD’s article says were true, then why did the article feature a giant octopus with a Star of David on it?

Clearly, despite the dishonest spin you and EAD try to hide behind, the article’s intention to make Jews as a whole the scapegoat is undeniable. Such a picture does not implicate non-Jewish people.

When you have to try and explain away the blatantly anti-Jewish ideology the web sites you and EAD promote engage in, then you have already lost the argument.
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May 16, 2015 2:46pm
sam green

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/religion-and-beliefs/news/article.cfm?c_id=301&objectid=11449538
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May 16, 2015 2:47pm
Reid

How conspiracy culture made anti-Semitism respectable

There’s a very simple solution to this issue.

Make education of conspiracy fact compulsory in schools so people actually knew what the fuck it really was rather than what sites like Fox News and the National Review lie about what it is.

Wouldn’t that be a good idea Shawn.

At the same time we could clear up outstanding questions like who were the Bolsheviks by asking people from Russia who were there and who would know, rather than using the writings of Western people who might have an agenda and reasons to lie and lie, couldn’t we. And isn’t that what education is all about? Of course it is, how could anyone except a liar possibly object to that?
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May 16, 2015 2:50pm
Scott Chris

Galileo’s, Copernicus’s and Einsteins have no chance of flowering anymore old chap!

They flowered because they were overwhelmingly correct. And if you consider their social context I’d suggest that dissent is a much easier art these days JB.
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May 16, 2015 2:52pm
Johnboy

No Inquisition Scotty? 🙂
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May 16, 2015 2:55pm
Reid

Reid, if your spin on what EAD’s article says were true, then why did the article feature a giant octopus with a Star of David on it?

Shawn you seem to have a problem conflating zionism with Judaism.

You seem to hallucinate that support for one is support for the other, and detracting from one is detracting from the other.

It’s not possible to argue this question unless and until you separate those two concepts so let me know when you are ready to listen to arguments which literally rips zionism to shreds and leaves it bleeding and fucked up the arse in the corner, while at one and the same time, the arguments have also venerated and gently revered Judaism and treated it and its people with the utmost respect as they deserve.

Let me know when you’re ready to entertain arguments that do that to zionism without accusing them of being anti-semitic and I shall commence. Until then, as the movie goes: “You don’t want the truth, you can’t handle the truth,” so there’s very little point in attempting to deliver it to you, is there.
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May 16, 2015 2:58pm
stephieboy

Reid,

“Assertions on paranoid conspiracy web sites, which are always made without corroborating evidence or independent confirmation, are neither evidence nor documentation.”

But it’s not Shawn’s fault that it’s in fact true .

CTers the real sheeple !

http://www.urban75.org/info/conspiraloons.html
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May 16, 2015 3:11pm
Manolo

But stephieboy still believes every word: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TV_ABC_STEPHANOPOULOS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-15-15-20-28

Stephanopulos rose to the top ranks at ABC over 18 years and worked to establish himself as an independent journalist despite skepticism by some in politics because of his background as a top aide to Clinton’s 1992 campaign and later in the White House. The donations that issue back to the fore just as Hillary Rodham Clinton is launching her presidential campaign.
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May 16, 2015 3:15pm
Dennis Horne

Maggy Wassilieff (904 comments) says: May 16th, 2015 at 2:22 pm
… but if you think the opposite of “might be expected to change” is “cannot affect” then I suspect you’ve got the comprehension block.

The “cannot affect” is the opposite of “[semi-colon] there are questions to answer”.

A bit sloppy, I guess that’s why we need editors! But there’s no need to insult an old stirrer by calling him a poet! 🙂
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May 16, 2015 3:17pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@ Dennis 3:17pm

But there’s no need to insult an old stirrer

I know, I’m mortified that those words leapt off my keyboard.
So hurtful, I don’t know how you’ll forgive me.
just forget me……. (sob, sob)
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May 16, 2015 3:25pm
Inandout

Sponge: I would take off my clothing attire to save a drowning person; it’s only a bit of head cloth after all, and he didn’t turn to stone I see.
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May 16, 2015 4:08pm
mikenmild

Wow Reid, two and a half hours of Myron Fagan droning on about the Illuminati. No wonder your brain’s fried.
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May 16, 2015 4:14pm
Nostradamus

Sponge:

I see an article on the Herald about a Sikh who removed his turban to help a little boy who had been run over by a car. The article states how significant it is that he did this in public due to strict religious rules. So what do the Herald do? Publish a photo of the guy without his head covered. What fucking knobs.

Inandout:

Sponge: I would take off my clothing attire to save a drowning person; it’s only a bit of head cloth after all, and he didn’t turn to stone I see.

Just wondering, Inandout, would you be happy for the Herald to publish a photo of your man jewels? 🙂
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May 16, 2015 4:14pm
rightoverlabour

There are some miserable fuckers in New Zealand. (mostly of the left). Stuff has an article about Prince Harry and some cute baby girl. Most comments are positive, but there has to be the nasty, jealous, vindictive bunch. Does not take long to work out their political bias. Have a totally shit day you, miserable MOFOS. I, for the record, am not too hassled if we keep the monarchy or become a republic, but Prince Harry is a good bloke and a wonderful statesman.
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May 16, 2015 4:21pm
nasska

Dennis at brekky complained,
The box for his Weetbix contained.
Some biscuits, two cards
A toy for retards
And his licence to pilot a plane.
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May 16, 2015 4:22pm
Johnboy

As long as they never got a rear shot showing his piles I guess he could still skite at the Cossie Club! 🙂
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May 16, 2015 4:22pm
Sponge

Inandout @4:08 – So would I but I wouldn’t expect the fucking Herald to publish a picture of it.

It might make you all feel inadequate if I got all my kit off. 🙂
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May 16, 2015 4:24pm
Johnboy

Eke’s never produced a Poet Laureate till now nasska! 🙂
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May 16, 2015 4:24pm
nasska

….”would you be happy for the Herald to publish a photo of your man jewels?”….

I can’t speak for Inandout Nostra but personally I would be overjoyed should I be given such an opportunity.

Publicity like that couldn’t be bought. 🙂
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May 16, 2015 4:26pm
Johnboy

Shit that Minus bastard’s fuckin quick! 🙂
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May 16, 2015 4:27pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

You could have 30 seconds of fame for free – and then a hefty fine – if you streaked across a rugby field in front of thousands of admiring fans!
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May 16, 2015 4:27pm
Johnboy

I never publish photo’s of my equipment as it makes the dogs job much harder when I send them up the hill! 🙂
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May 16, 2015 4:29pm
Dennis Horne

Maggy, have I blown it? I was going to ask if my ‘copilot’ Herr Manfred and I might entertain you and your German subordinate when we fly down to Gisborne next. Some time away now, I guess.

Anyway, you fence with sharp minds you die by your (s)words. Or something.
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May 16, 2015 4:32pm
Dennis Horne

I don’t need a licence, naska. When I went for my medical the doctor threw my licence in the bin and said: “You won’t be needing this any more.”

I thought, well that’s good.
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May 16, 2015 4:35pm
Inandout

Sponge: This turban thing is getting into the ‘can’t picture Mohamed’ territory. It is his religious hangup, not mine, and don’t forget the scores of satellites overhead that have also captured that accident scene. Sometimes I wonder if we really are living in 2015.
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May 16, 2015 4:41pm
Dennis Horne

Naska looks over his fields with pride
Waiting for me to arrive in a glide
But now I fuel the crate
So as not to hit his gate
Because I cannot his snide words abide. 🙂
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May 16, 2015 4:42pm
Manolo

Effing unbelievable: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3083841/Migrants-home-home-Just-mile-Channel-ferry-Africans-way-Britain-build-thatched-reminder-life-ve-left-behind.html
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May 16, 2015 4:49pm
Scott Chris

Dennis I’d suggest that if you want to win Maggy’s heart you’ll first have to emulate Kea’s ‘fiery’ intellect.

All you need to do is set your head on fire.
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May 16, 2015 4:49pm
Johnboy

Mad Dennis glides over the Eke
His fuel load is less than the peak
He spots a flat paddock
But lands like a Haddock
Wise nasska shoves him into the creek
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May 16, 2015 4:49pm
Sponge

Inandout @4:41

To an extent I agree with you and if he was slitting someones throat I would have no sympathy for him whatsoever. In this case the guy was doing a good deed and to do so meant he had to do something not permitted by his religion. For that reason I think they should not have published a picture of him.

For what it is worth I think religion of any sort is damn silly, I mean really? Who give a fuck if you wear a hat? But for all that I would not want to see someone discouraged from doing the right thing in defiance of his religion for fear of it being publicised.
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May 16, 2015 4:55pm
Nostradamus

Johnboy:

Do you remember this?

Johnboy (18,043 comments) says:
November 3rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm

With apologies to Dennis Glover.

Owed by a Magpie.

When Helen and Mickey ran the farm
And socialists made us red
Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
Phil the magpie said.

Helens hand was in strong control
When Mickey stole our bread
Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
Phil the magpie said.

Year in, year out they toiled away
Their schemes filled us with dread
Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
Phil the magpie said.

But all their lovely plans soon went
Johnny owns the farm instead
Quardle oodle ardle wardle squawk
Phil the magpie said.

WINZ is run by Paula now
And its books are in the red
Quardle oodle ardle squawk choke
Phil the magpie said.

The client list was checked right through
Alarm bells they soon rang
Quardle oodle squawk choke gulp
Phil the magpie said.

A fault was in the system too comfy was the nest
It was the crafty magpie had ripped it off the best
Early next monday morning a strident chime was heard
Get up you lazy magpie, get up, get out of bed

Oh bugger me its time for work
Phil the magpie said.

You have a competitor in the ranks, Dennis!
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May 16, 2015 4:56pm
UglyTruth

When you have to try and explain away the blatantly anti-Jewish ideology the web sites you and EAD promote engage in, then you have already lost the argument.

So how is your Bible a “reputable source”, when there’s a fair amount of ant-Jewish material in it?

“whitewashed sepulchres” is a stronger image than an octopus IMO.
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May 16, 2015 4:56pm
Dennis Horne

Johnboy gets out his l’il pride and joy
Distracting the poor sheep is his ploy
Gets the back legs into his gummies
He doesn’t take them on their tummies
Satisfied, the boy comes inside to us annoy
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May 16, 2015 4:57pm
Scott Chris

I’m coming to the conclusion that Johnboy is one of Barry Crump’s bastard sons.

Nice poetic scan JB! Uptick from me.
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May 16, 2015 4:57pm
Shawn Herles

@ Reid

“Shawn you seem to have a problem conflating zionism with Judaism.”

Zionism grew out of Judaism, and is held to by a vast majority of Jews. It expresses the ancient Jewish desire to return to the Holy Land.

You cannot separate the two.

The rest of your Nazi rant is just more evidence free Nazi spin.
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May 16, 2015 4:57pm
Shawn Herles

@ UglyLies

““whitewashed sepulchres” is a stronger image than an octopus IMO.”

The term is not aimed at the Jewish people, or even the Jewish leadership, but is aimed at specific individuals, and the accusation is made by a Jew.

Thus it is not an anti-Jewish accusation. The term could be used for any person who claims to be clean but is a sinner. In other words, every human being.

Once again Ugly proves that he does not have a clue what the Bible actually says.
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May 16, 2015 5:00pm
Shawn Herles

Bottom line. Six million people were murdered on the basis on a conspiracy theory, and the symbol they were forced to wear in public was the Star of David.

EAD promotes an article declaring war on the people represented by the Star of David, in other words, honest words free of self-serving spin, the Jews.

So, there are only two possibilities. EAD and Reid know perfectly well what kind of ideology they peddle here, thus they are lying when they claim otherwise.

They are both gullible sheep who are easily led by evil racist Jew haters and really don’t have a clue what they are peddling.

So, liars or sheeple?
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May 16, 2015 5:08pm
Inandout

Manolo: The West’s softness will be our undoing. We just keep caving in because the bloody UN decrees.
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May 16, 2015 5:11pm
mikenmild

Inandout
If you are into the UN, you should really check out Reid’s link at 2.32pm. Apparently it’s all an Illuminati plot.
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May 16, 2015 5:17pm
Johnboy

My glory days as poet sheepiate of KB are alas over Nostradamus.
I’ve never exceeded that wonderful epic.
Perhaps my Governor General poem came close
But my muse has departed ground down by the minus monster
Johnboy will slowly fade away into the history of KB! 🙂
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May 16, 2015 5:18pm
Harriet

Johnboy our farming bard
placed some ewes in the sheep yard
he plied one with drench
and it started to perform like a wench
hence he is no longer hard. 🙂
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May 16, 2015 5:21pm
Reid

Zionism grew out of Judaism

No it grew out of an evil family called Rothschild.

and is held to by a vast majority of Jews.

Yes but just because the sheeple hold a view doesn’t commend it. After all the German sheeple thought Hitler was pretty durn terrif didn’t they.

It expresses the ancient Jewish desire to return to the Holy Land.

No it’s a vehicle to enable Satan to destroy Israel and demonstrate to the world he’s more powerful than God because God didn’t help them. At least that’s what the world is supposed to think. What Satan is really destroying is the nation of people who say they are Jews but are not. That’s why God will allow Satan to do it, because they’re not the people of Abraham.

And zionism is simply the vehicle to allow this to come about. If anyone thinks zionism is so terrific for the Jewish people then they need to explain why all the senior zionist leaders sat back in the US and UK while all their fellow Jews were rounded up by the Nazis and none of them said a damn thing about it, not a single thing.

And does anyone really believe that with all those trains, all those operations, going on for year after year, with all those recon flights documenting every single square inch of occupied Europe, does anyone except an idiot, really truly believe that in all that time, no-one but no-one ever thought to follow those railway lines to the camp and ask themselves: what’s happening here? And what about that camp. And what about that one, and that one and that one and that one and that one.

And the idiots really believe that none of this ever happened, and no-one at all ever knew about all of that massive massive operation, which the zionist leaders would of course have been screaming about in the media, had they, oy vey, but known. But in all those years, none of them not a single one, ever knew about it, at all, in any way.

Of course this was highly convenient for the satanic Rothschild cabal, since what they really wanted was a massive incentive to go ahead and populate the new land called Israel, which they’d already prepared. That’s why they never said anything, despite of course naturally, knowing everything about it, I mean, how could anyone not know. As a matter of fact, they engineered it.

They are both gullible sheep who are easily led by evil racist Jew haters and really don’t have a clue what they are peddling.

I’m afraid it’s you Shawn and many of your neocon fellow travellers who are the gullible sheep here, led by Satan toward burning humans, and not having a clue what you’re peddling.

Of course, the senior neocon leadership know precisely what they’re doing, they’re Rothschild’s cabal. But you, at your level, of course, you have no idea.

If you didn’t have such an enormous ego, you’d pray truthfully to God to, and ask him whether what I’m saying above is the case or not, but that would change your entire worldview, so even if you did pray to God, you couldn’t and wouldn’t wait on a truthful answer, you’re just not capable of that level of self-sacrifice nor that level of accurate discernment.
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May 16, 2015 5:25pm
Johnboy

You do need to scan your lines a little harriet
Your rhyming isn’t the best but generally improving! 🙂
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May 16, 2015 5:26pm
Shawn Herles

A timely message from the Goddamn Gallows: Y’all Motherfuckers Need Jesus!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5YL2NfXf34
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May 16, 2015 5:27pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wplmgejnt33l09b/Sheep%2059.jpg?dl=0
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May 16, 2015 5:27pm
Shawn Herles

“No it grew out of an evil family called Rothschild.”

Not one credible historian would affirm this bit of pseudo-historical crap.

This daft claim is followed by standard neo-Nazi crap questioning the Holocaust. Not worth responding to.

“If you didn’t have such an enormous ego, you’d pray truthfully to God to, and ask him whether what I’m saying above is the case or not,”

I have. Your ideology is a Satanic lie.
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May 16, 2015 5:31pm
mikenmild

What a complete crock of shit, Reid. Minor example, you seem to be saying that the ‘Zionist’ leaders turned a blind eye to the Holocaust, or perhaps even encouraged it. What horseshit.
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May 16, 2015 5:31pm
EAD

@ Shawn Hurl,

I can’t speak for Reid (I’m guessing he’s formed a similar view to myself through extensive research) but right from day dot, I’ve only ever rallied against the money changers. If myself or Reid have ever been against an entire class of people then please prove it rather than bluster on like a typical yank. http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Economic-Hit-John-Perkins/dp/0452287081

Please in future, if you’re going to mention me, please quote factually.

http://www.themoneymasters.com/the-money-masters/famous-quotations-on-banking/
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May 16, 2015 5:32pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Dennis 4:32

I was going to ask if my ‘copilot’ Herr Manfred and I might entertain you and your German subordinate when we fly down to Gisborne next.

Being entertained by 2 men is right up my alley. We could accommodate yr dirigible on the croquet lawn.
Not too sure about taking off tho’
Perhaps a launch over the hill top?
http://www.gisborneherald.co.nz/article/?id=41561
Kaiti Beach is just below….. in case of emergencies.
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May 16, 2015 5:33pm
Dennis Horne

There was an old girl called Harriet
All she got from Andrei was “nyet”
Good Catholic blokes
Are not allowed pokes
Unless they come with bread wine and a serviette
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May 16, 2015 5:34pm
UglyTruth

“whitewashed sepulchres”

The term is not aimed at the Jewish people, or even the Jewish leadership, but is aimed at specific individuals, and the accusation is made by a Jew.

The Pharisees were the religious ancestors of the Rabbis, and the criticism of making the law a burden that was aimed at them still applies.

The position of being forbidden to criticize a cultural group enables cover for criminals who take the appearance of members of that group.
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May 16, 2015 5:34pm
Akaroa

inandout and milkenmild at 5.11 and 5.17.

United Nations? Pardon my mirth!

I once had some illusions about the United Nations being the “instrument of Global salvation” and the “guardian of the solution to all the World’s woes”.

I say ‘I had”. That was until I went to Cyprus for a year, donned the UN blue beret and saw it in day to day close-up!

From then on in I came to realise what a shonky, disorganised, internally strife-ridden waste of money and time, and vehicle for the World’s champion free-loaders and wastes-of-space that the ‘proud’ – (Ha!) – United Nations is.

You have to hand it, though, to the con-men it embraces in its bosom! They’ve got the free World mightily fooled!
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May 16, 2015 5:35pm
Shawn Herles

@ EAD

“I can’t speak for Reid (I’m guessing he’s formed a similar view to myself through extensive research) ”

Reading anti-Jewish conspiracy web sites is not research.

“but right from day dot, I’ve only ever rallied against the money changers. ”

The article you posted was about Jews in general, and did not have a picture of a bank on the monster, but the Star of David.

Stop lying. To me and to yourself.

“Please in future, if you’re going to mention me, please quote factually. ”

You mean buy into your lie that your not peddling neo-Nazi hate? Why? It’s the truth.
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May 16, 2015 5:36pm
nasska

Thanks for the link Shawn. The message is crap but the music’s fine. 🙂
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May 16, 2015 5:37pm
Johnboy

It’s no use expecting a satisfying outcome from two men Maggy. Dennis will run out of fuel and Manfreid will crash in flames when you put the hard word on the poor old blighter! 🙂
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May 16, 2015 5:39pm
Reid

What a complete crock of shit, Reid. Minor example, you seem to be saying that the ‘Zionist’ leaders turned a blind eye to the Holocaust, or perhaps even encouraged it. What horseshit.

Really.

Well then mm, pray provide all the screds and screds of evidence that the zionist leaders were warning about it all through the war years. Go on, go ahead.

IIRC, the western history is, when the allies came up to the camps, it was all a complete surprise. Wasn’t it.

Well?

Is that your recall as well, mm?

Yes or no?
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May 16, 2015 5:40pm
Harriet

“….Being entertained by 2 men is right up my alley. We could accommodate yr dirigible on the croquet lawn…..”

Boy, talk about a double entendre. 🙂
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May 16, 2015 5:40pm
Nostradamus

Harriet:

Would you join Maggie and Dennis in your capacity as male (with a female pseudonym) or female (with male reproductive organs)? 🙂
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May 16, 2015 5:41pm
Shawn Herles

“The Pharisees were the religious ancestors of the Rabbis, and the criticism of making the law a burden that was aimed at them still applies.”

Even if the above were true, and it’s not, this would not make an anti-Jewish statement. So your original claim is still wrong.

The criticism in this case was not about the law, but about human hypocrisy.

Attempting to take Christ’s criticism of certain specific people or teachings as an excuse to promote hatred of Jews in general is a dishonest tactic that relies on perverting Scripture for the purposes of anti-Jewish racial hate.
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May 16, 2015 5:41pm
Reid

The article you posted was about Jews in general, and did not have a picture of a bank on the monster, but the Star of David.

Like most neocons except the really senior ones, Shawn is so monstrously ignorant the fool doesn’t even know the origins of the hexagon that is the so-called ‘star of David.’ (David had nothing to do with it BTW, it’s a typical deception conjured up to fool idiots into hallucinating it has some wholesome connotation when in reality, it’s satan all the way, baby. But don’t expect Shawn & co to pick that up.)

Here’s some useful detail on it.
http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/the-star-of-david-deception/

Here’s a brief overview of background and history.
http://www.moresureword.com/starof.htm

The hexagram was brought to the Jewish people by Solomon when he turned to witchcraft and idolatry after his marriage to Pharaoh’s daughter in 922B.C. It became known as the Seal of Solomon in Egyptian magic and witchcraft. David had absolutely nothing to do with the hexagram and that star most certainly did not, in any way, represent God’s people. Solomon gave himself up to satanic worship and built altars to Ashtoreth and Moloch (Saturn).

The hexagram faded from Jewish usage for 2,600 years. Then in the 1800’s, in Germany, it was adopted by Mayer Rothchild to mark his house. The six pointed star was used as the Rothchild coat of arms. It is difficult to pin down the date at which the six pointed hexagram star became known as the so-called Star of David. In fact the earliest Jewish application of the symbol outside the Rothchild banking and financial empire is 1873.
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May 16, 2015 5:46pm
Johnboy

“Even if the above were true, and it’s not, this would not make an anti-Jewish statement. So your original claim is still wrong.

The criticism in this case was not about the law, but about human hypocrisy.

Attempting to take Christ’s criticism of certain specific people or teachings as an excuse to promote hatred of Jews in general is a dishonest tactic that relies on perverting Scripture for the purposes of anti-Jewish racial hate.”

You know Shawn, much as I like you, I still have trouble getting the idea that you’re a prissy little prick out of my head! 🙂
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May 16, 2015 5:47pm
UglyTruth

Even if the above were true, and it’s not

“the Pharisees grew into rabbinic Judaism when the Temple was destroyed in 70 CE.”

http://booksnthoughts.com/a-superb-history-of-the-development-of-rabbinic-judaism-and-the-oral-law/
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May 16, 2015 5:52pm
Andrei

Is that Anglican Music Shawn Herles?

This is something else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKZDsJL5daE
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May 16, 2015 5:53pm
Shawn Herles

“Shawn is so monstrously ignorant the fool doesn’t even know the origins of the hexagon that is the so-called ‘star of David.’ ”

I am well aware of the actual origins. Your claim is just more whackjob pseudo-history.
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May 16, 2015 5:53pm
Harriet

Dennis was frosty
so he sideled up to nosky
“tis not much trouble to warm the ‘ol fellow
…whilst only fit in shallow” 🙂
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May 16, 2015 5:54pm
Shawn Herles

REFUTING MODERN ANTI-SEMITISM: The myth that all Jews are Khazars

http://www.redstate.com/diary/barrypopik/2010/07/03/refuting-modern-anti-semitism-the-myth-that-all-jews-are-khazars-from-700-1000-ad-who-never-lived-in-palestine/
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May 16, 2015 5:54pm
Reid

Careful UT, Shawn has a degree in something vaguely theological, that evidently makes him right about everything religious and there’s no other possibility.

Apparently.

I am well aware of the actual origins. Your claim is just more whackjob pseudo-history.

There’s lots of claims in those links Shawn. I trust you’re going to address them or are you just going to claim they’re wrong and because you’ve got some kind of degree, apparently, we’re supposed to take your word for it and it’s case closed?
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May 16, 2015 5:55pm
Shawn Herles

“Is that Anglican Music Shawn Herles?”

Not likely. Appalachian Dark Folk.
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May 16, 2015 5:56pm
mikenmild

Reid
You might like to consult any one of dozens of reputable books about the Holocaust to inform yourself of the actual state of affairs. You might find one I have read, ‘The Myth of Rescue: Why the democracies could not have saved more Jews from the Nazis’ by William Rubenstein, particularly illuminating.
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May 16, 2015 5:56pm
UglyTruth

Who needs truth when you’ve got the certainty of a rampant ego, eh Reid?
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May 16, 2015 5:57pm
Shawn Herles

“Careful UT, Shawn has a degree in something vaguely theological, ”

Christian History and Theology.

“hat evidently makes him right about everything religious and there’s no other possibility.”

No, but it certainly makes me vastly more credible than the alien invasion web sites Ugly get’s his Biblical interpretations from.
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May 16, 2015 5:58pm
Reid

You might find one I have read, ‘The Myth of Rescue: Why the democracies could not have saved more Jews from the Nazis’ by William Rubenstein, particularly illuminating.

mm perhaps you could explain why for five years there was not a peep from anyone about it?

What was the explanation for that history which happened? How was that silence explained?

Shawn we’re still waiting for a response to the star of david question. For some reason you posted something irrelevant on Khazars. Why is anyone’s guess, since we’re all discussing star of david. So what is your learned response with your degree and all, to the couple of paras I quoted, for a start? Is it true it has that Rothschild connection? Yes or no? What does your degree tell you about that? What about the Solomon thing. Did David ever use it or was it his son? What’s the answer to that one? And so on.

I’m sure you appreciate there are lots of issues there, we haven’t even began to explore the satanic nature of Israel’s symbol have we. So not sure why Khazars have come in as well. Let’s leave them aside till we’ve covered off satan’s flag, shall we?
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May 16, 2015 5:59pm
UglyTruth

Is it reputable in the same way that RationalWiki is reputable, mikenmild?
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May 16, 2015 6:01pm
Shawn Herles

“There’s lots of claims in those links Shawn. I trust you’re going to address them”

I addressed this claim a while ago, and you threw a tantrum and ran away.
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May 16, 2015 6:02pm
Johnboy

Youse fellars should be studying more wholesome stuff! 🙂

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=sheep+herding+dogs&biw=1680&bih=916&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=79xWVcKiF-e2mQWqoIDoCg&sqi=2&ved=0CDwQsAQ
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May 16, 2015 6:02pm
UglyTruth

No, but it certainly makes me vastly more credible than the alien invasion web sites Ugly get’s his Biblical interpretations from.

More credible than a fiction, eh Captain? In other words, not very credible.
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May 16, 2015 6:04pm
flipper

Put aside the esoteric, political bullshit , AND if you have not already seen it, study this MASTER CLASS by a Master Teacher of politics …..

FYI…if not already seen, it is worth your time as the Master Teacher explains the real politics 101

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11608648/Lynton-Crosby-Betrayal-of-British-voters.html
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May 16, 2015 6:06pm
Reid

Youse fellars should be studying more wholesome stuff!

I do apologise Johnboy I know its boring for the rest of you, but when Shawn flings and hurls accusations of a serious nature casually around as he often does tonight merely being another example, why should any accusee allow those to stand when they’re untrue?

That’s the thing really.

Sorry people, it’s not my choice either. It’d be good if Shawn could debate without flinging the accusations, but evidently, he’s incapable of doing that.

I addressed this claim a while ago, and you threw a tantrum and ran away.

Don’t recall Shawn, care to repost? Otherwise, the allegations are in those links. Read them and address them, one by one. It’s called debate.

Bluster and just claiming it’s not true, doesn’t count
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May 16, 2015 6:08pm
Shawn Herles

Judaism: The Star of David – Magen David

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/star.html

Star of David origin

http://www.simpletoremember.com/jewish/blog/star-of-david-origin/

What Is the Mystical Significance of the Star of David?

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/788679/jewish/What-Is-the-Mystical-Significance-of-the-Star-of-David.htm

Rothschild myths—Debunked 100%!!!

http://www.icke-exposed.co.uk/rothschild-myths/rothschild-myths-debunked-100/
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May 16, 2015 6:09pm
Andrei

Youse fellars should be studying more wholesome stuff!

Just for you Johnboy a video of big arsed Kalmykian sheep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98XZnWPqer4
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May 16, 2015 6:10pm
Shawn Herles

“but when Shawn flings and hurls accusations of a serious nature casually around as he often does”

I don’t do it casually. But in yours and EAD’s case, the Nazi shoe fits.
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May 16, 2015 6:12pm
nasska

You continue to amaze me Andrei. Never had you picked as a man with a good eye for mutton. 🙂
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May 16, 2015 6:14pm
mikenmild

Reid
If you made even a cursory study of the matter you would find that the Allies were well aware of the Nazis’ murderous actions against the Jews. Whether more could have been done to save the European Jews continues to be debated by historians, but the fact of extermination became clear during the war.
See this for an example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Declaration_by_Members_of_the_United_Nations
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May 16, 2015 6:16pm
Harriet

Given that Bruce Jenner is good at shot put, and also wishes to have an ass the size of his step daughter’s, Kim Kardishan – he should probably call himself Beatrice. 🙂
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May 16, 2015 6:18pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lmyorg1ercip2di/Clinton%201.jpg?dl=0
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May 16, 2015 6:20pm
Reid

I don’t do it casually.

Yes you do Shawn.

A debate BTW is things like this below, posting links triumphantly as if that settles the matter is like tabling a law book in the court and then sitting down. The judge would laugh, and you’d be thought of as quite the fool.

So..

Please explain how your links address the following points:

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Acts 7:42-43: Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

Amos 5:26-27 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.

Moloch, Chiun and Remphan are all names for the star god, Saturn, whose symbol is a six pointed star formed by two triangles. Saturn was the supreme god of the Chaldeans.

Is that true?

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The hexagram was brought to the Jewish people by Solomon when he turned to witchcraft and idolatry after his marriage to Pharaoh’s daughter in 922B.C. It became known as the Seal of Solomon in Egyptian magic and witchcraft. David had absolutely nothing to do with the hexagram and that star most certainly did not, in any way, represent God’s people. Solomon gave himself up to satanic worship and built altars to Ashtoreth and Moloch (Saturn).

Is that true?

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The hexagram faded from Jewish usage for 2,600 years. Then in the 1800’s, in Germany, it was adopted by Mayer Rothchild to mark his house. The six pointed star was used as the Rothchild coat of arms. It is difficult to pin down the date at which the six pointed hexagram star became known as the so-called Star of David. In fact the earliest Jewish application of the symbol outside the Rothchild banking and financial empire is 1873. That was the year that the Magen David was adopted as a Jewish device by the American Jewish Publication Society. It is not even mentioned in the rabbinic literature searches. Other than that fact, no one seems to know when or how the Occult or Satanic star, became the Star of David. What should a Christian or observant Jew have to do with this symbol, NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING. Keep the symbol out of your house. The evidence is overwhelming that it is a cursed symbol which may give demonic ground or license.

The hexagram has remained in use within the occult and is prominent in the rituals and worship of Druids, Freemasons, Astrology, New Age, and Wicca. Witches often have this hexagram symbol, of the so-called Star of David, tattooed on the abdomens or palms of witchcraft initiates.

The so-called Star of David is essentially a hexagram, nothing more, nothing less. There is no Biblical or Jewish evidence that traces this ancient occult symbol with King David of Israel. However, there is evidence that it was used by King Solomon, after he turned to pagan gods and the occult, late in his life. It is a very sobering thought and strong case against OSAS that Solomon’s soul would end up in hell. Here is a man to whom God appeared twice, whose father was King David, who was used by God to write so much scripture, Proverbs, Song of Solomon, and Ecclesiastes.

I Kings 11:4-9 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, [that] his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as [was] the heart of David his father. For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as [did] David his father. Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that [is] before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon. And the LORD was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from the LORD God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice,

Are those above passages accurate?

The great goal of freemasonry is to rebuild Solomon’s temple – The OCCULT ONE and NOT THE HOLY ONE.

Is that true?

A Masonic book called The Second Mile, an Eastern Star book, reveals that the “six pointed star is a very ancient symbol, and one of the most powerful.” The hexagram is used in magic, witchcraft, sorcery and occultism and the casting of zodiacal horoscopes by astrologers. “It was considered to posses mysterious powers.”

The six pointed star is used by magicians and alchemists. The sorcerers believed it represented the footprints of a special kind of DEMON called a trued and used it in ceremonies both to call up demons and to keep them away (O. J. Graham, The Six Pointed Star, New Puritan Library, 1988, p.35).

Bill Schnoebelen, a former Satanist, says, “To the sorcerer, the hexagram is a powerful tool to invoke Satan.” In fact, the word “hex” — as to put a “hex” or “curse” on people — comes from this word.

If you examine the so-called “Star of David,” or hexagram, closely, you will discover something astonishing. It has six points, forms six equilateral triangles, and in its interior forms a six sided hexagon — thus it reveals the number of Satan’ antichrist beast, — 6 points, 6 triangles, and the 6 sides of the hexagram — 666 !!!

Is the above true?

This ancient occultic figure is also a pagan symbol of sexual union and reproduction. The triangle pointing downward represents the female sexual organ, and the upward pointing triangle represents the male phallus. Joined together in the hexagram, they represent sexual union, to paganism and the occult, the union of the active and passive forces in nature. Thus the hexagram was a part of Satan’s original “sex worship” rites and symbols of the sexually oriented rites and ceremonies of BAALISM — Nimrod and Semiramis — Easter (Astarte) and Baal — Venus (Aphrodite) and Bacchus.

David J. Meyer, a former witch and occult practitioner, now editor of The Last Trumpet newsletter and a Christian, declares, “When the male triangle penetrates the female triangle it produces the six-pointed crest of Solomon or hexagram, the most wicked symbol in witchcraft.”

The hexagram was used in ancient pagan Egypt as a tool to communicate with the dead. Of course we know they were actually demons, conjured up, posing as the dead. The dead are not able to communicate with the living. Some of the verses of Ecclesiastes are strong on this point such as 3:19-20 and 9:10.

How did this ancient symbol of the occult, and Lucifer, Satan, the devil, find its way to be a symbol of the Jewish people, and become the major symbol today of the Jewish people, even being on the Israeli flag?

Yes, how did this happen?

The first martyr of the Christian church, Stephen, in his defense before the Sanhedrin, warned the Jewish nation, as he reviewed the history of Israel. (Acts 7:42-43). God’s Word warns us, in the prophecy of Amos. (Amos 5:26). This star was undoubtedly the SIX-POINTED STAR — the star associated with sexual depravity, and whoring after false gods. It is the Hexagram from occult, magic, and necromancy of Egypt! But, how did this figure become popular in Israel?

In one word, the answer is Solomon. Solomon, after he became king of Israel, violated all the specific commands of God to kings, on an unprecedented scale. Those special commandments of God to the kings, which Solomon violated like no other, are found in Deut 17:15-19. There is NO Wonder that the goal of freemasonry is to rebuild Solomon’s temple. 1 Ki 3:1 And Solomon made affinity with Pharaoh king of Egypt, and took Pharaoh’s daughter, and brought her into the city of David, until he had made an end of building his own house, and the house of the LORD, and the wall of Jerusalem round about. The influence of the daughter of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, was no doubt considerable, as she was pre-eminent and most exalted among all of all his wives.

Solomon who loved the Lord in the beginning of his reign, turned away from the true path of worship as he grew older. 1 Ki 11:1-2 But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites; Of the nations concerning which the LORD said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love.

1 Ki 11:9 And the LORD was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from the LORD God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice,

Solomon worshipped, among other gods, Ashtoreth (Eastarte, Isis, Venus, Aphrodite), Milcom or Molech, and Chemosh. These satanic rituals included human sacrifice, witchcraft, and sexual orgies. Solomon built high places, temples, and altars, for these pagan abominations, for all his foreign wives, and joined them to burn incense and do sacrifice to their gods. It was, without any doubt, Solomon, and NOT David, who adopted the Hexagram, which became known as Solomon’s Seal, or Solomon’s Shield. He became a wizard, or consulter of demons, and the walked in forbidden occult powers of darkness, of Lucifer, Satan, the devil. Thus the hexagram became a prominent symbol in ancient Israel which can be traced no farther back than Solomon. He adopted it from the pagan nations around him.

There is no evidence to connect the hexagram with David, his father. There is no reason to believe that David, a man after God’s own heart, would ever adopt a Satanic, occult, or pagan symbol for his “shield.” But Satan the devil, the chief of liars and deceivers, would certainly love to have you think so! (Rev.12:9; John 8:44).

Is that true?

Why and how did the six-pointed star — the pagan occult symbol — become connected with the MODERN state of Israel? It was adopted as the family crest or shield by the Rothschild family during the 19th century. The Rothschilds bought a great deal of property in “Israel,” from the Turks and Arabs, and were largest financial supporters of the Zionist movement in the early decades. The influence of the Rothschilds and their heavy financial support of Israel, led the Jewish nation to adopt the so-called “Star of David” as their own symbol as a nation.

As God’s people, we should have NO PART in the use of these perverted, corrupt, occult, Luciferian symbols, and everything they represent! They are an abomination in the eyes of our Holy, Almighty God!

This popular Jewish symbol, is not as Jewish as people are led to believe. It is very popular. It appears on many synagogues and as well as on THE NATIONAL FLAG OF ISRAEL. The star symbol IS VERY OLD and was used as a decoration by MANY ANCIENT CULTURES. The oldest known example dates back to the time of Noah, almost 4,400 years ago. However, by NO MEANS is this star the oldest Jewish symbol, any more than it should be considered Jewish at all. The oldest known symbol of Israel, is NOT the falsely so-called Star of David; but, THE BURNING BUSH as mentioned in Exodus. Exo 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

Though not the oldest of the symbols of Israel, the NEW, soon to be, flag of the Nation of Judah, which will emerge when Jewish people look upon Him whom we have ALL pierced. The NEW FLAG will be the 7 branched candle stand, the gold Menorah on a sky blue background. Some say the burning bush symbolized Israel, A NATION NOT CONSUMED. In spite of many nations trying to annihilate the Jews, God has promised to preserve them and this has proven true in history.

The star of Solomon, or Luciferian star, dates back over 4000 years, and was in many ancient cultures. This is very important because THIS STAR HAS BEEN CONNECTED TO FALSE PAGAN WORSHIP and Moses had a very difficult time getting the people of Israel to forsake this false religion. During the Middle Ages the symbol became connected with MAGIC and protection, along with the pentagram or five-pointed star. The connection with magic DATES MUCH EARLIER THAN THE MIDDLE AGES for both stars. This can easily be proven by a quick study on magic and witchcraft.

The so-called Star of David also called the Shield of David, or Mogen David, in reality, is the Seal of Solomon, when he turned reprobate, Luciferian, and was fully given over to the occult. The STAR OF DAVID IS NOT MENTIONED IN SCRIPTURE.

Is that true?

Though the phrase “Star of David” itself does not appear in the Bible, it is obvious that THERE IS A STAR MENTIONED. ALSO WE SHOULD TAKE SPECIAL NOTE OF TWO TABERNACLES MENTIONED IN SCRIPTURE

There always have been TRUE an FALSE tabernacles. There were TWO TABERNACLES in the wilderness. The true and the false. Notice how the Word of God clearly identifies these two tabernacles and places THE FALSE ONE WITH A STAR.

THE TRUE – Psa 78:59-60 When God heard this, he was wroth, and greatly abhorred Israel: So that he forsook the tabernacle of Shiloh, the tent which he placed among men;
THE FALSE – Amos 5:25-26 Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel? But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. THE TABERNACLE OF YOUR MOLOCH AND CHIUN your images, the STAR OF YOUR GOD, WHICH YE MADE TO YOURSELVES.
STEPHEN MENTIONS THIS STAR IN ACTS 7

Acts 7:42-43 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon. THE TABERNACLE OF MOLOCH, AND THE STAR OF YOUR GOD REMPHAN, figures which ye made to worship them…”
THE FALSE TABERNACLE AND THE TRUE TABERNACLE ARE ALSO MENTIONED IN HEBREWS

Heb 8:1-2 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
THE GREAT HIGH PRIEST, AFTER THE BETTER MELCHIZEDEK ORDER, JESUS CHRIST, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of THE TRUE TABERNACLE, WHICH THE LORD PITCHED, AND NOT MAN.

During the LAST TWO CENTURIES the six-pointed star has become a distinct Jewish symbol. One motive was the desire to have a common Jewish identification similar to the Christian cross and Islamic moon god crescent. It is important that we know that it has ONLY BEEN THE PAST TWO CENTURIES that the star has become a distinct Jewish symbol.

Though the Nazis used the star as A BADGE OF SHAME during World War II, it is said the symbol came to represent unity and hope. The reality is that the he Jewish people in Hitler’s time were not thinking of unity and hope. They were thinking of SURVIVAL.

It really is sad that a symbol of Satan, witchcraft, magic, and the occult, now days represents the Jewish nation. Today, the falsely so-called Star of David almost has pre-eminence over the God ordained and much older MENORAH, or seven branched candelabrum, as a symbol of Jewish tradition. THE BURNING BUSH is slightly older, by a matter of months, than the Menorah, and BOTH have a TRUE and direct connection to the Jewish nation. The Star of Solomon, falsely called the Star of David – DOES NOT. We will soon see God remove the veil. Then we will see this falsely so-called Star of David removed from any association with the people and land of Israel. The nation of Israel will soon become the nation of Judah. We will KNOW when God removes the veil and saves the whole nation in one day. We should KNOW how we will know.

Zec 12:9-11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy ALL the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

2 Cor 3:14-16 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart. Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away.

We will KNOW because we will see the dark symbol of Satan and the occult, replaced on their National flag, with LIGHT from either the Burning Bush and/or the Menorah. Maranatha. Alleluia Yeshua. Burning Bush, or Menorah, or Both, let the symbol of the God who is Light, the God of Israel, be the symbol of Light, rather than darkness.
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May 16, 2015 6:23pm
Reid

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If you made even a cursory study of the matter you would find that the Allies were well aware of the Nazis’ murderous actions against the Jews.

So if this is the case mm then why the fuck were the zionist leaders in the US and the UK quiet as church mice about it?

That’s my point, it’s not rocket science, so what’s the answer. They WERE quiet as church mice, they DID know, my question is WHY?

Why why why why why? Just in case you didn’t grasp the point the first time.

Surely, if zionists really did give a fuck about the Jewish people being rounded up and brutally murdered, you’d think all of them would be onto the editors of every single paper up and down the UK and the US every single fucking day, wouldn’t you.

But oddly, they were all quiet as church mice, weren’t they.

Yes they were. That’s the history. That’s what happened.

So my question is, since this silence didn’t help the Jewish people being brutally murdered in any fucking way because they sure as shit could have used some public support for some bombing and special ops to interfere with the whole system, but it did help greatly the evil Zionist bastards because they wanted to launch it as a “surprise” to encourage post war emigration, do you think that was just a coincidence that there was silence?
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May 16, 2015 6:32pm
Manolo

That beauty (ewe) will keep Johnboy entertained all night!
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May 16, 2015 6:33pm
nasska

I think you left out a couple of chapters of Genesis & a bit of Mathew’s missing too Reid.

Other than that you’ve pretty much cut & pasted the Good Book in its entirety. 🙂
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May 16, 2015 6:34pm
Shawn Herles

I notice that Reid does not provide a source for his massive cut and paste comedy. Gee, I wonder why?
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