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Odakyu-sen

Lucia,

The Japanese cell phone earthquake alarm sounds like the tsunami sirens at the start of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uJN3Z1ryck

You probably are unfamiliar with them, but they scare the shit out of me.
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April 23, 2015 12:12pm
SPC

Shonkey pulling the tail of a donkey.

A new Playschool nursery rhyme is in development.

Here is a house, here is a door,
Windows – one, two, three four.
Ready to knock? Turn the lock.

Get ready – to play. What’s the day? It’s … Play School.

And here comes Rosie a friend of Jemima and she works in a café and she rides a donkey to work.

“Can you tell what time the clock says today? Well, the long hand is pointing straight up, so that means it’s something o’clock – and the short hand is pointing to the number…two. So today, the clock says, two…o’…clock”. “But what’s underneath the clock?”.

Oh its Shonkey and he has come to visit Rosie on his day off, so he can pull the ponytail of the donkey.

What a very odd story.

PS I’d love to be John Key’s psychopherapist, and get to ask the question all of us secretly have.

John before you met your wife, was there a girl at primary school who wore her hair in a pony tail?
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April 23, 2015 12:19pm
wikiriwhis business

Last time the PM apologized for something he passed a law legalized what he had done wrong.
So soon we will see a law passes under urgency making it legal to harass and molest waitresses without their consent.
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April 23, 2015 12:31pm
kowtow

The US will remain an energy super power despite the wishes of the left and Obama.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/11556531/Oil-slump-may-deepen-as-US-shale-fights-Opec-to-a-standstill.html
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April 23, 2015 12:40pm
SPC

The law is the Harmful Digital Communications Bill. Section 19 of the bill creates a crime of “causing harm by posting digital communication”:

A person commits an offence if—

(a) the person posts a digital communication with the intention that it cause harm to a victim; and
(b) posting the communication would cause harm to an ordinary reasonable person in the position of the victim; and
(c) posting the communication causes harm to the victim.

For the purposes of the law, “harm” is defined as “serious emotional distress”. TechLiberty’s pointed out last year that this clause applied perfectly to the exposure of corrupt politicians, something which an ordinary reasonable person would think would cause them serious emotional distress. And it applies equally to exposing creepy ones as well. And no, there’s no public interest defence. The kicker? The National-dominated select committee has increased the penalty for this offence from three months to two years imprisonment.

The message is clear: if in future you expose the Prime Minister as a creep using the internet, you’ll be facing jail. So much for our democracy.

http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2015/04/national-wants-to-jail-people-who.html

Presumably a newspaper is OK in print but not if it is also on on-line.
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April 23, 2015 12:42pm
Fletch

The US will remain an energy super power despite the wishes of the left and Obama.

I read a story yesterday that Americans are trading in their hybrid cars for SUVs now that the price of fuel is so cheap.

http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/transportation/blogs/americans-are-selling-green-cars-and-buying-suvs

Meanwhile, Obama uses a jet to attend Earth Day, which will create five times the amount of C02 an average family uses in a year.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/obama-earth-day-trip-to-emit-5-times-as-much-co2-as-the-average-american-does-annually/

Hypocrite much?
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April 23, 2015 12:53pm
Fletch

Meanwhile, Iranian leaders have said that they will not grant access to IAEA Inspectors ‘Anywhere’ Nationwide.

A top Iranian commander says Iran will never permit inspection of its military sites.

“Not only will we not grant foreigners the permission to inspect our military sites, we will not even give them permission to think about such a subject,” the Fars News agency quoted Brigadier General Hossein Salami, the second-in-command of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC), as saying on a live television broadcast on Saturday.

“They will not even be permitted to inspect the most normal military site in their dreams,” he added.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/04/19/406956/Foreigners-never-allowed-in-military-sites

So much for the terms of Obama’s infamous deal. The whole thing is a charade; a little performance.
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April 23, 2015 1:01pm
stephieboy

kowtow, your seem to be easily seduced by Fox Propoganda in the form of Bill O ‘ Reiley ‘s book “Killing Paton ” which glosses over many things including the fact he was notoriously anti Semitic judging by his letters to his wife etc.Utterly detested them and I under stand his boss Gen Eishenhower virtually had him sacked for this and other kinds of insubordination ,

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/10/23/was-general-patton-an-anti-semite-yes-the-worst-jerry-the-worst/

I think it reminds us of the pitfalls of your over reliance on the Fox’s Department of Propoganda and Public Enlightment.
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April 23, 2015 1:02pm
kowtow

Couldn’t happen here?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/investigations/11556130/Doctor-who-agreed-to-gender-abortion-of-baby-girl-could-be-struck-off.html
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April 23, 2015 1:03pm
stephieboy

Fletch, again your being highly misleading about the IAEA inspectors and access to military sites.No where does it say denied access to “Nuclear plants ” etc. Furthermore so far there is only tacit agreement in principle about the so called ” infamous deal ” which won’t be finally signed off until the end of June as a done deal.
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April 23, 2015 1:13pm
kowtow

Ah ,multiculturalism, embrace the enriching diversity.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3051349/The-principal-believes-females-run-excessively-lose-virginity-Principal-Islamic-school-fire-banned-female-students-competing-district-cross-country.html
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April 23, 2015 1:14pm
Left Right and Centre

How does the MSM get hold of ‘similar story’ people so damned fast ?

The day HairScandal broke – Stuff had managed to conjure from thin air – three ‘hospo’ women (no men of course) and their stories of customer-employee harassment.

Where did they magically appear from in such a short space of time ? And another thing – those stories weren’t worth mentioning in the same breath because they’re in a different league – so is anything being implied there ? Hair-pulling is the same as drunk men putting their hands around a waitresses waist ?

If you were right into conspiracy theories – you’d say they **knew** well ahead of time, they’d had warning, and had three stories of other women lined up in the chamber ready to fire. Otherwise – what – do they have every conceivable relateable story ready to go at a moments notice held in a database ?
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April 23, 2015 1:18pm
SPC

Er, they visit the cafes they eat at and talk to those working there.
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April 23, 2015 1:20pm
stephieboy

kowtow, you have this habit of picking out an extreme example of a behaviour or practice from an ethic or religious group and immediately extrapolate from it and say they all act like that .Nothing could be further from the truth .

I invite you to come an settle in Auckland ,even for a short while ,to see and experience the richness that diversity and multiculturalism gives to a city .Plus the fact that Islamic females are not , as far as am aware, banned from participating in Cross country and other sporting and cultural events at schools etc .Islamic included .

You need to learn to grow out of your ghettoised “whites only ” mindset and experience the world as it is and should be .Reality in other words .
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April 23, 2015 1:42pm
Left Right and Centre

What a shame Mediaworks can’t get rid of Jackson and Mau and replace them with Mark Sainsbury. He’s on now – wow – what a stark contrast – no gag reflex.

Listen to all of these leftie shithead callers using the hairpulling to ring in and whine about how much they never liked him in general. They hated him before the hair thing – and still hate him. Well – thanks for ringing in with that brilliant contribution.

I wonder if they hated Bolger and Muldoon too ?
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April 23, 2015 1:47pm
RJL

@Left Right Centre “How does the MSM get hold of ‘similar story’ people so damned fast ?”

The primary story has been widely reported in various news media?

People actually watch and think and respond to news stories?

Telecommunications are rapid?
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April 23, 2015 1:51pm
Jack5

stephieboy sings the multiculturalism song in his 1.42 post: diversity is heaven.

It can be okay, but homogenous countries including Japan, Korea, China, Finland, Iceland, perhaps Tonga and Samoa, can be pretty interesting too.

On a narrower point, people don’t need to be bashful about wanting tight restrictions on Muslim immigration. Most countries can decide what their future population make-up will comprise, and Islam looks increasingly incompatible with Western culture.

My only caveat is that rather than give immigrants a hard time, target the multiculturists within, particularly those in positions of influence. The majority racial group of South Africa didn’t get a fair shake at deciding their future until its activists targeted those within their groups who more than co-operated with the white apartheid regime, one of whose aims was to reduce the proportion of black people in South Africa. That is, the apartheid regime was pro-diversity.
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April 23, 2015 1:54pm
Left Right and Centre

Er, they visit the cafes they eat at and talk to those working there.

Is that digital age journalism, is it ? Whoa – we’re going to need some shitty stories – quick – get down to the cafes and bars – right – and then what happened ? Aha aha – ah yeah – aha. Why don’t you just type that straight into my i-pad, it’ll save a few minutes – we can get it up a lot faster. One side of a story ? No trouble.

Bullshit anecdotal bollocks – worth less than the data you used to look at it.
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April 23, 2015 1:56pm
Harriet

“…..kowtow, you have this habit of picking out an extreme example of behaviour or practice from an ethic or religious group and immediately extrapolate from it and say they all act like that .Nothing could be further from the truth…”

Stop being an idiot Stephie.

Kowtow is not saying that at all Stephie – or suggesting it- in reality Kowtow is supplying evidence that a proportion of Muslims[usually including leaders] are constantly in conflict with what is considered reasonable behaviour in their host country, and in conflict with lawful behaviour, in conflict with authorities, rules, and regulations – all of which prove that muslims are extremely disruptive to citizens and the government of their host country – Britian[kowtow mostly posts the Daily Mail reports of muslim activity in Britian ——- USUALLY DAILY]

In other words, Kowtow is presenting evidence that Muslims are not the religion of peace in Britian but are instead trouble makers in the extreme – as Britian has never had this level of antagonism from any of it’s past imigrants into Britian, which has been known to be for decades a very peaceful country.
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April 23, 2015 1:59pm
stephieboy

Jack 5 , Apartheid pro diversity ? Possibly but only in a very oblique way as it always paid be a white to receive the full benefits of dIvesity – umm ” seperate development ” including the prohibition of sexual relations and marriage between them .etc.
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April 23, 2015 2:11pm
Jack5

Stephieboy, 2.11, the apartheid mob believed in retaining separate cultures rather than assimilation. Given this is perhaps the cornerstone of multiculturism, perhaps the apartheid regime was uber multiculturalist and stood for super diversity.
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April 23, 2015 2:26pm
Shawn Herles

“Hey ….Kiwiblog……we not dumb”

Hmmmmmm……..

“Paypal: Brain Chips to Replace Passwords”

Are you sure?
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April 23, 2015 2:31pm
Rachael Membery

So now re the hair thing according to the Herald, the owners of the cafe are now complicit along with the waitress in wanting to get rid of their (I am sure) most influential customer. Makes good business sense, would you go back?
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April 23, 2015 2:36pm
Fletch

Three churches in Australia torched during Easter week and we’re only hearing about it today. And the media rejoices.

In Holy Week, three historic Catholic churches were torched in Melbourne, Australia.

On Holy Monday, St Mary’s Church, St Kilda East and St James’ Church, Brighton were set alight. On Holy Wednesday, the third, St Mary’s Church in Dandenong went up in flames.

Maybe I just haven’t been paying attention but, as an Australian Catholic, I only heard about this today — two weeks after it happened.

There has been little media attention on this tragedy. Sadly, what coverage there was focused almost exclusively on the possible link between the churches burned and the child sex abuse scandals of the 1960s, 70s and 80s. The sadness and loss of current priests and parishioners has been pushed aside as the media has gleefully relayed the crimes that took place around these churches. The implication is clear. These churches are a burnt offering in atonement for the sins of past priests.

No one denies that horrible abuses did take place but is that any excuse to burn a church that has stood for over 140 years?

What the media reports insinuated, some went right ahead and said. Australian actress Rachel Griffith said she felt “great relief” and added, “I was quite elated, like many of my generation, when I heard the news this morning.”

Elated? At the news three churches had been burned?

Imagine for a moment that these weren’t Christian churches.

If they had been mosques or temples, we’d be loudly decrying such persecution and furiously examining our consciences. We’d have a nation-wide hashtag campaign and protests in support of those whose beloved sacred places had been destroyed in the most holy of weeks. (Can I suggest #illfightchurchattackswithyou)

But no, these are Christian churches.

They had it coming, you see.

http://www.lauramcalister.com/2015/04/14/aussie-churches-burn-while-media-rejoices/
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April 23, 2015 3:11pm
wikiriwhis business

In the scramble to get a child and family friendly policy for Budget 2014 National stole New Zealand First’s free GP visits policy. Now they’ve gone back on their word to New Zealanders to give free GP visits and prescriptions to under 13s. They have done a U-turn and are now talking about ACC funding and injury related visits. There was no mention of ACC and injuries in May 2014.
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April 23, 2015 3:16pm
Redbaiter

Another scandal about to hit Key/ Joyce govt?

Couldn’t happen to a better bunch of cronyist arseholes.
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April 23, 2015 3:21pm
Whanga-cynic

I see the Horrid has stopped all debate on Hamstrung’s article about the ponytail, probably because the tide seemed to be turning against them. Arseholes.
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April 23, 2015 3:26pm
stephieboy

Jack 5 , apartheid as multiculturalism ? Thus you favour the Seperation of the cultures and races including seperate parks, beaches , toilets after all ?

Wow !
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April 23, 2015 3:32pm
PhilP

“I’ve been in the Wairarapa – made my submission opposing the Draft Wellington Reorganisation Proposal yesterday to the Local Government Commission”.
“More on that later …..
Thanks for asking 🙂

Kind regards
Her Warship”

What were you doing in the Wairarapa yesterday Penny? Thought you were in Wellington…..The GCSB and their spies have been keeping an eye on you.
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April 23, 2015 3:47pm
Redbaiter

EAD- re the local preference for trivia.

An Australian TV presenter once got severely criticised for a remark he made about the newly opened Tasmanian casino. he said-

“They’ve got blackjack and roulette wheels and polkie machines for the overseas tourists and snakes and ladders for the locals.”
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April 23, 2015 3:50pm
waikatogirl

Why is our Govt paying Oracle $17m for R&D on boat building technology when he is worth $54Billion!
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April 23, 2015 4:48pm
Rachael Membery

Our PM also throws snowballs at staff, and will take his entourage elsewhere in future, I would hope.
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April 23, 2015 5:02pm
Longknives

My God- The vile Katie Bradford is attacking John Key on One News, backed up by that twit Corin Dann..
How can these two even keep a straight face as they pretend to be ‘impartial’ reporters??
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April 23, 2015 6:09pm
Fletch

Longknives, indeed.

And Simon Dallow referring to it as a ‘scandal’. Really? The media really are getting all in a froth about it. If something like this had happened in the 60s or 70s, no one would have got into a tiz about it. Now, everything is so PC and the least little offence is labelled as “abuse”.

I see that in the U.S, a conservative speaker was invited to give a speech at Oberlin college and the liberals and feminists went bonkers. The poor little darlings had to have “safe spaces” set up for them, in case they heard the slightest thing that they might disagree with and their feelings were hurt. Got to watch out for those “trigger warnings”.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/04/22/warning-conservative-speaker-on-campus-college-allows-trigger-warnings-and-safe-space-alerts-197562

I don’t know how these people will cope in the real world.
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April 23, 2015 6:39pm
Fletch

ps, what is the bet that if it were Ed Sheeran who was the guest in the restaurant and who pulled her ponytail, that it would have been no problem?
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April 23, 2015 6:47pm
nasska

….”I don’t know how these people will cope in the real world.”….

They won’t. They’ll just close their eyes while dreaming of world peace, fairness & paddocks full of little, white, fluffy bunny rabbits.

Then when they awake all the big nasty meanies will have gone.
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April 23, 2015 6:54pm
Reid

What the media need to do is declare their position if they’re not prepared to be neutral. That applies to channels as well as individual journos.

And as we know here in NZ, that would mean 99.7% of them would need to declare.

Anything else is abrogating the ethics of their profession, since their current practice is nothing less than propaganda, pure and simple. It is. It’s not news, and it’s not journalism. It’s propaganda. Which is fine. But if you want to practice propaganda, then how dare they pretend it’s journalism. That’s the worst betrayal.

The ethics of their profession of course being: publish facts, let the reader decide. Don’t spin, don’t advocate, don’t embellish. Who what why when and where, that’s it, period, over and out.

If they’re not prepared to do that and only that, then declare themselves.

Nothing more, nothing less.
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April 23, 2015 7:00pm
wikiriwhis business

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MYCl9L3aVM
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April 23, 2015 7:02pm
Left Right and Centre

I love the Key haters choice of words to describe events . . .

The Prime Minister of this country regular visited a cafe, fondled a waitress’s hair

Fondled ? Fondle: to handle or touch lovingly, affectionately, or tenderly; caress:

That’s a stretch – it’s a word that has generally negative connotations. Used by the left in an attempt to inflate the allegation – make it sound much worse than it probably was. He pulled her hair. He fondled her hair. So if he grabbed her hair and pulled it then let it go in the space of less than a second, that means he *fondled* her hair ? I don’t think so.

And then this crap in the Herald –

Auckland University criminology and sociology lecturer Dr Ronald Kramer said Mr Key’s unwanted physical actions put the vulnerable waitress in a powerless position where she was unable to “fight back”.

Huh ? Why is she vulnerable ? Would a man doing the same job ever be considered ‘vulnerable’ ? She’s certainly ‘fighting back’ and then some now. Doesn’t come across as a poor wee weak little helpless powerless vulnerable victom now. She’s got the whole fucking country hooked on it. Of course – after just one occurrence the employee could have said something (1) to the customer (2) to her employer or manager – one or both of whom would have been on site. She did neither. That’s on-one else’s fault at all. That comes down to strength of character and life experience. She’s 26 years of age – she’s not a baby – and she needs to accept that she didn’t say anything after the first time – and that was her choice. That’s life – sometimes you have to make a tough choice – but she at least did have more than one option in her case.

She went outside and cried about it ? Wow – sounds like it doesn’t take much – what a bloody sooky-bubba.

And in the given context – it was the customer’s local cafe – a frequent visitor – and a long and established relationship. And how people behave when they feel comfortable and at home in a familiar setting is not or not necessarily how they would behave at a cafe they have never been to.
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April 23, 2015 7:02pm
wikiriwhis business

““Paypal: Brain Chips to Replace Passwords”

Are you sure?”

You heard of RFID chips

Otherwise you can’t comment
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April 23, 2015 7:05pm
Left Right and Centre

nasska – could John Key be convicted of a crime from ‘tailgate’ ? What would the charge or possible charges be ?

(hahahahahahaha – **tailgate** !!!!!)
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April 23, 2015 7:06pm
wikiriwhis business

“Ponytail hijack. The really sad thing about this (probably) non-event is the timing of the story. The prime minister of our country is in Gallipoli commemorating a really important event in NZ history”

so why didn’t he think ahead and show maturity for such an historic event?????
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April 23, 2015 7:10pm
wikiriwhis business

An American FEMA cameraman who says September 11 was a lie is facing extradition from Argentina to the United States on alleged murder charges. Kurt Sonnenfeld, a man who was provided provisory refugee status seven years ago, is now wanted by the US government on murder charges. He is the only cameraman that filmed crucial images of Ground Zero in New York after the Twin Towers collapsed.

Sonnenfeld, who lives in Buenos Aires with his Argentine family, says the footage proves that 9/11 was a lie. He still has the 22-hour footage that US authorities want.

“I have promised to give my footage to the big investigators that are credible and widely known – investigators who will be able to detect anomalies that I or other people without scientific education might miss. With that in mind, I hope that there are many things they can discover that disprove the current official story of what happened,” Sonnenfeld told a Press TV correspondent.

He says he fears for his life if he is sent back to the United States to face trial. The Denver police have claimed they have evidence that show he killed his first wife in the US.

Social activists who are campaigning for Sonnenfeld to be given refugee status in Argentina say the Denver police are lying. The Sonnenfelds say they have been under police surveillance and that their phone has been tapped.

Sonnenfeld claims that his footage proves top US government officials were aware of the 2001 terrorist attacks before they occurred says he is a victim of a US plot to silence him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I6yEezSDV8
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April 23, 2015 7:12pm
Fletch

nasska – could John Key be convicted of a crime from ‘tailgate’ ? What would the charge or possible charges be ?

(hahahahahahaha – **tailgate** !!!!!)

LOL.

Actually, I’ve been wishing all day that they would call it that.
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April 23, 2015 7:14pm
wikiriwhis business

Its not hard to understand how a nation, millions of people can be fooled and deceived, its been a process since childhood from Disney to CNN, a constant bombardment of media telling us what to do, what to buy, get married have kids, a job and a mortgage. Go to war for your country, defeat evil etc etc.. Its been going on forever. Americans are so pounded with chest beating God given superiority they think they can defeat the Universe. How could they possibly believe their beloved crusading leaders are only using them as tools for wealth? Since when has facts or truth meant anything to anyone? Your church upbringing tells you its all about Faith, exactly what most go on. The truth will eventually come out, long after the responsible have died off. Beware though, once awakened there is no going back.
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April 23, 2015 7:17pm
Rachael Membery

Left Right and Centre (3,385 comments) says:

April 23rd, 2015 at 7:06 pm

And how fast it became ‘talegate’.
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April 23, 2015 7:17pm
kowtow

Paddy Gower on 3 news re pony tail

“If the PM needs advice from someone about being a jerk he’s close to Tony Abbott at the moment”……..words to that effect,

Gower should be sacked for that lack of professionalism.
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April 23, 2015 7:17pm
Left Right and Centre

Difference between bullying and tailgate. Bullying – a hard concept to pin down anyway – if I’m bullying someone – I don’t like them, or I’m trying to get my way or getting some pleasure out of their misery from my efforts.

Was John Key bullying a waitress in the action of pulling her hair ? Was his intention to upset her ? To make her feel like shit ? Probably not – that’s nasty – could be, but it’s doubtful.

Hair-pulling being called sexual assault. So – hair-pulling is sexual behaviour ? Really ? That’s feeling someone up, is it ? Pulling their hair ? Get a life lefturds. It might be retarded especially if it’s clearly unwelcome but sexual ? Nah

I’d love to have seen that – call the cops – John Key just pulled this woman’s hair. I wonder what the cops would’ve done ? Anyone got any crime stats for hair-pulling charges ?

(I’ll fully admit that I’m totally obsessed with this thing last two days)
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April 23, 2015 7:21pm
stigie

I saw Annette King on the news tonight having a great dig at the Prime ministers unfortunate incident almost implying it was sexual harassment. She needs to be reminded of the Darren Hughes affair in her house which was far worse.
Its the same old story of the past….its different when the left do it !~
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April 23, 2015 7:21pm
big bruv

I proudly supported the marriage equity bill. I believe in equal rights for gays.

However, really camp gay men like the singer Sam Smith make my skin crawl.
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April 23, 2015 7:27pm
Reid

I proudly supported the marriage equity bill. I believe in equal rights for gays.

Yeah but the thing you missed BB was that the former never had anything whatsoever to do with the latter.
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April 23, 2015 7:45pm
SPC

Separate yet equal, reserved section on the bus being good enough …
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April 23, 2015 7:49pm
Lucia Maria

Nah, they’re on separate buses heading to different destinations …
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April 23, 2015 8:00pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n26f18pzbwshgos/PC%203.jpg?dl=0
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April 23, 2015 8:15pm
Rachael Membery

Is there a picture of the said’ irresistible’ mane? Cue horsey jokes, will she want to be mare?
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April 23, 2015 8:15pm
dad4justice

“I proudly supported the marriage equity bill. I believe in equal rights for gays.”

We have no doubts about that haha.
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April 23, 2015 8:20pm
SPC

Neighshanal is trying to shut the tailgate after the horse has bolted for a better place – one with greener golf course links.
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April 23, 2015 8:22pm
big bruv

D4J!….what did you do to fill in your time whilst you were banned from here?

Did you see much of Richie?
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April 23, 2015 8:24pm
stigie

Thats a bit of a gay question there Bruv …?
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April 23, 2015 8:29pm
dad4justice

“Yeah but the thing you missed BB was that the former never had anything whatsoever to do with the latter.”

Reid my learned friend that comment cannot be understood by the drongo bigot blouse.

Reid watch the bb stigfly zoom in on the faggot turd.
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April 23, 2015 8:29pm
nasska

Dad’s a bit coy tonight BB. You don’t think that Richie may have proposed? 🙂
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April 23, 2015 8:30pm
dad4justice

Another country bunkin faggot fly has turned up.
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April 23, 2015 8:33pm
big bruv

nasska

Not sure about that. But, from what my rugby head mates tell me old Richie has been off form a bit of late. Perhaps he has issues that he has to deal with, or perhaps old D4J just is not ready to come out of the closet yet.

Come on D4J, just do it. I support your right to be gay.
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April 23, 2015 8:33pm
dad4justice

Does this place has fumigation for the sick suffering from Aids?

Nothing changes around here same old fags pushing the same old agenda. See you queers in a few months.
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April 23, 2015 8:35pm
nasska

Probably Dad’s blowing him kisses from the grandstand BB.

That would tend to unsettle the hardest of men. 🙂
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April 23, 2015 8:38pm
big bruv

D4J

Are you going again?

Do let me know how you plan to do it this time, I would hate to miss one of your melt downs. Perhaps you can tell us all about LAX before you go.
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April 23, 2015 8:41pm
stigie

See, hes fucked off now Nasska, its all your fault, now we have no one to harass !~
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April 23, 2015 8:42pm
EAD

Great to see the Saudi’s get their ass handed to them on a plate by a mere bunch of “Rebels” in Yemen

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/21/houthis-have-far-reaching-weapons-and-saudi-arabia-at-their-mercy/
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April 23, 2015 8:42pm
Reid

Great to see the Saudi’s get their ass handed to them on a plate by a mere bunch of “Rebels” in Yemen

It’s so funny EAD.

Look at how the controlled mass media presents “yemen explained” to the sheeple:

https://www.google.co.nz/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=yemen%20explained&oq=yemen%20expl&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j69i65j0l4.7324j0j7

Now look at it with the b.s. stripped away:

http://aanirfan.blogspot.ca/2015/03/yemen-explained.html

Now ask the sheeple which one makes the most sense based on verifiable facts they can research on the interweb to their heart’s content, and watch them all stand around bleating. Displaying the following symptoms: they’re not real humans, they can’t think, and they’re waiting for someone to tell them what to do. Oh, and react angrily to the mere suggestion the controlled mass media could possibli be wrong.

Interesting.

Isn’t it.
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April 23, 2015 8:52pm
EAD

The aanifran blog is close to my take on the situation – in short the former Yemen Government were puppets of Saudi/US interests. The Iran aligned Houthis sick of having being subjugated and having their resources plundered, ooverthrew the puppet government.

Interesting thing is that just like the Georgian war, Russian military technology is proving far superior to US technology. Quite a bit different than what the neo-con, anti-Russian faction on here would have you believe.
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April 23, 2015 9:03pm
Andrei

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfNlQFMhI6c
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April 23, 2015 9:05pm
Reid

Quite a bit different than what the neo-con, anti-Russian faction on here would have you believe.

Yeah but when you understand nothing about anything you’ll probably end up like them won’t you EAD.

Poor bastards.

Such a shame, when everything’s just a keystroke away. Yet they clearly prefer to remain quite ignorant.

Maybe as society becomes more enlightened we’ll be able to get them some govt counselling or something. Let’s hope so.
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April 23, 2015 9:19pm
Mike

I note that one poster has impliedly expressed sympathies with the apartheid regime of South Africa. It would be great if more people were honest about their (literally) racist ideologies. It’s generally pretty obvious anyway, just makes the person look cowardly when they refuse to admit it.
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April 23, 2015 9:31pm
Reid

I note that one poster has impliedly expressed sympathies with the apartheid regime of South Africa.

Goodness, who’s that Mike?

What a swine. Let’s get him.
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April 23, 2015 9:35pm
EAD

@ Reid 9.35pm,

great post – it’s funny how when certain topics are bought up, the blinkers come and and emotion colours all logic. The key thing is to spout the received ideas to display your virtuosity. You don’t actually have to do anything, just say the correct, approved, politically correct thought shows to the world how wholesome you are. http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9501282/hating-the-daily-mail-is-a-substitute-for-doing-good/

On South Africa, you can ignore the fact that Black Africans were scrambling to get into the country under the apartheid regime whereas nowadays, we are seeing a huge exodus of non-ANC connected wealthy black South Africans.

Same things with Nazi Germany. Undounbtedly and evil government who committed massive atrocities but if you acknowledge many of the great things they did then that means you must be a “syphilis ridden Nazi scum”.

Meanwhile, the same folks will ignore the Russian, Christian genocide which was a crime many times larger than the “Holocaust” yet scarcely rates a mention:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/cid_part1_06030604_00040805mounet5.png
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April 23, 2015 9:49pm
Reid

You don’t actually have to do anything, just say the correct, approved, politically correct thought.

Times like these I regret never having read 1984, for then I’d know the correct label to apply to that ubiquitous pervasive behaviour which I see everyday.

Isn’t it amazing how coincidence somehow manages time and again to organise a confluence between complete and utter fiction and the reality we see here and now, here and everywhere.

Luckily Orwell was making it all up. Imagine if he wasn’t.
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April 23, 2015 9:58pm
kowtow

Apartheid South Africa was a safer country for all South Africans (unless you were a terrorist)
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April 23, 2015 9:59pm
Mike

Pray tell, what are some of the “nice” things about apartheid South Africa?
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April 23, 2015 10:01pm
Mike

EAD you seem to think that blacks had it better under apartheid (what else would be the point of your comment about immigration)? Can you explain why you hold this view?

I presume that none of you think you are personally racist and am interested to know how you reconcile this with your view that is at best sympathetic to (at worst outright supportive of) apartheid South Africa.
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April 23, 2015 10:06pm
EAD

Mike,

here is the BBC (hardly a friend to the apartheid regime) on why many think life for Black people in South Africa was better under apartheid.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/8711089.stm

Their main reasoning is under the current regime, there are far less jobs, corruption is rife, education poor, crime is through the roof. Basically all the general problems that can be associated with moving from a quasi capitalist society to a quasi-communist one.
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April 23, 2015 10:29pm
Reid

under the current regime, there are far less jobs, corruption is rife, education poor, crime is through the roof

Yes.

When you have Cabinet Ministers appointed because they belong to an “oppressed” minority but who can’t even write, strangely enough even a massive amount of PC psychobabble bullshit propaganda about how good everything is, doesn’t seem to help, no matter how much cotton wool and crocodile tears and hand wringing one dispenses.

How extraordinary.

Who’da thunk.
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April 23, 2015 10:42pm
Manolo

Meanwhile the Queen claimed she was broke: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=1

As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation.

Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors.
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April 24, 2015 12:19am
SPC

EAD, 8.42pm – gotta laugh, someone who complains about phony money linking to a phony Veterans group quoting a phony diplomat.
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April 24, 2015 1:55am
BlairM

Derrin Hinch often says interesting things.
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