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April 22, 2015 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 22 April 2015

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Longknives

” Blessed are the peacemakers,..”

I think it was ‘Blessed are the Cheesemakers’..
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April 22, 2015 6:57pm
Lucia Maria

They did a lot more than that, Gulag.
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April 22, 2015 6:58pm
wiseowl

So well said Wiri.
The fact that on the news tonight Nick Smith just laughed off the issue about houses being advertised overseas by agents saying that the government would pay half the rent, which is in effect correct with accomodation subsidy so generous, was enough to make one pack up and leave.
Smith has his hands over his eyes and ears or the government is playing some weird game here.
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April 22, 2015 7:01pm
Left Right and Centre

Anyone renewed an expiring NZ passport recently? I did so yesterday, online, using the Government’s “RealMe” identification system. What a brilliant experience!

It’s good but looking to the future it’s a bit like someone getting excited that a horse is so much quicker than walking – when you know that jet engines will soon lead to 747s.

Won’t they just put them on smartphones soon or something ?
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April 22, 2015 7:02pm
nasska

….”In other news: Wellington train breaks 60 km/h”…..

What a quaint way to travel….I’d forgotten that people still used those things. 🙂
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April 22, 2015 7:03pm
Left Right and Centre

Jeepers it’s Nazzareth – my latest feral fashion update for you is that there’s a trend to stand in a queue holding your obligatory young child with no shoes and mismatched socks.

I’m busting for your take on Hairgate – and BTW next time JK is at Rosies he should ask that poor girl ‘how’s it hanging’ ?
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April 22, 2015 7:16pm
nasska

….”I’m busting for your take on Hairgate”…..

I reckon that it’s all a storm in a D cup LR&C. The way the Left are banging on about it you’d swear that JK had bent the hapless waitress over the table & had his way with the her on the spot. 🙂
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April 22, 2015 7:22pm
Fifi la Belle

nasska. Oui, oui, pas de train pour vous mais are you getting anywhere?
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April 22, 2015 7:22pm
nasska

Non ma Fifi

Sur notre chemin, nous privilégions taureau panier. 🙂
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April 22, 2015 7:28pm
EAD

Have spent this evening watching this absolutely brilliant movie: “Hidden Influence: The Rise Of Collectivism” which has just released. This is part one of three and explains how the ruling class, through their billion dollar foundations, have infiltrated the public education system in the west and have used it as a tool to indoctrinate children into a totalitarian ideology.

IMHO, this is one of the best films yet that gives proof of how nearly all of the problems of today have been planned for decades. It gives an incredibly fascinating insight into the financial and social engineering that we have been subject to and how it is playing out in our lives today as the ideas of communism/socialism/marxism changed history the last century so dramatically for the worse.

Numerous great thought leaders are featured in the film including Walter Block, G. Edward Griffin, Tim Moen, James Corbett and Jeff Berwick. It also includes insights from audio footage of Murray Rothbard and others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALtJoILN3ks

The final 10 minutes of the film are the best as it shows the optimism and potential for real hope and change (not the Obama variety).
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April 22, 2015 7:43pm
Fifi la Belle

Alors, mon fermier, j’espere que vos taureaux sont dociles aujourd’hui.
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April 22, 2015 7:43pm
Fletch

Anyone watching this thing on Fair Go about Facebook? I honestly don’t know what the big deal is. I thought pretty much everyone knew how to change their settings so that only their friends could see their info.

They’re milking it for everything it is worth.
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April 22, 2015 7:48pm
Jacob

New Zealand First has confirmed its new MP will be parliamentary staffer and former hairdressing salon-owner Ria Bond. {…} Ms Bond is the 12th candidate on NZ First’s list. The party currently has 11 MPs. Under electoral rules, Mr Peters must resign as a list MP to allow his party to bring another MP into Parliament.

Has Winston resigned his list position or not yet?
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April 22, 2015 7:50pm
OneTrack

So the Northlanders got their Invercargill hair dresser into parliament. It’ll be great.
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April 22, 2015 7:59pm
MT_Tinman

nasska (12,925 comments) says:
April 22nd, 2015 at 7:22 pm

The way the Left are banging on about it you’d swear that JK had bent the hapless waitress over the table & had his way with the her on the spot

Automatic fourth and fifth term if he had. 🙂
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April 22, 2015 7:59pm
Fifi la Belle

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11436886
Farm worker unjustifiably dismissed despite death of 73 cows

La vache!
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April 22, 2015 8:00pm
nasska

It would have been advertising that couldn’t have been bought MT_T. JK demonstrating his prowess in a public setting & with Mrs K. in attendance, would still be talked about at election time a hundred years hence.

Topless Putin be buggered…..he’d be remembered as a fag compared with our JK. 🙂
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April 22, 2015 8:03pm
Left Right and Centre

I was waiting to fall off my chair Nazza – still waiting – but yeah that’s about it eh ?
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April 22, 2015 8:16pm
Left Right and Centre

As much as I agree with you I’m wondering what charges can be brought against him in a court of law. It’s definitely harassment but does it go far enough to be assault?

Harassment is also illegal, especially when it seems to have a sexual element as it does in this case.

Is this why right-wing KB folks think the lefties are dicks ?
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April 22, 2015 8:19pm
nasska

As Shakespeare probably never said……Much ado about FA. 🙂
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April 22, 2015 8:19pm
Left Right and Centre

It is assault…I would maybe have ignored it the first time, second time I would have told him to stop…third time i would have told him to leave me alone……4th time i would have laid a complaint with the police for harassment and assault ….I know it would result in media bull twisting stuff but enough is enough….the pathetic excuse of a man is a psychopath and I would not allow him to touch me.

Say what ? He’s a phychopath ? This is from TDB comments – who are these people ? It’s assault ? Is it ?
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April 22, 2015 8:28pm
Andrei

Well it made the New York Times, Nasska, according to One News that is – all of Manhattan is abuzz with our scandal Prime Ministerial of pony tail pulling apparently
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April 22, 2015 8:32pm
Left Right and Centre

I want to know – how many different visits to the place did hair-pulling occur, and how many hair-pulls in total are we talking ?

Why was it just her ? Anyone else there ?

Re-reading the thing – hmmm – there’s a lot of hair-pulling. It’s a lot of hair-pulling. You know what ? That’s quite a bit of hair-pulling. What’s with that ? What’s he doing that shit for ? And they’ve got footage of him pulling other people’s hair.

What’s with all the hair-pulling ?? People you don’t know at all ? I can’t remember pulling anyone’s hair.
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April 22, 2015 8:36pm
nasska

It would seem that the fame that is our due has finally arrived Andrei though it would be interesting to know who spread the news.

Anyone we know from NZ currently resident in Manhattan?
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April 22, 2015 8:38pm
Left Right and Centre

John seemed to think that his job demanded less professionalism than that of a waitress, yet he’s the one that’s running our entire country. Unfortunately, when our poor country is left cringing, tormented, cowering in the corner, it can’t be fixed with a bottle of wine, and neither was this. I’m telling this story because I’m the only one who can and it seems he needs reminding that he’s not a god, he’s just a man.

This part is pure puff rhetorical unrelated nonsense. Comparison of their jobs. He wasn’t at work – hello ?? I know he’s ‘always the PM 24/7’ – doesn’t matter – he’s not actually at work when out with his wife at a cafe. What does he need – a sign like a fucking taxi – I’m not *on* at the moment. And anyway – that’s a baseless assertion of what he was or wasn’t thinking – an opinion.

I like the doomsday prediction of NZ’s future – obviously written by a genius waitress – NZ will be cowering and cringing – and not just at her opinions – and a bottle of wine won’t fix it. Aha. Because giving a gift as part of an apology is just like ‘running the country’.

And then we’re making assertions about JK’s mindset that he regards himself as ‘godlike’. Clueless social behaviour must be due to a god complex. Huh ?

All of that part of the story is just pure waffling rhetoric. Come on – based on some hair-pulling, that’s all you need to know – next stop, the country has gone to hell because of this awful hair-pulling man. If he pulls hair – the next step in logic is that he’s going to ruin the country. Come on – what the fuck is that shit ? Seriously.
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April 22, 2015 8:51pm
Left Right and Centre

I find it interesting that no-one of any description that I’ve yet to see has pointed out that the ‘outdated’ term ‘waitress’ is being consistently used instead of the gaining in popularity ‘waitperson’ or ‘server’.

I did notice that Rosies have an American style ‘waitlist’ instead of a ‘waiting list’ to be seated. You can’t make a booking and they don’t have a phone so as not to ‘ruin the experience’ for their clientele. Sounds quite snooty.

Wouldn’t you love to be a fly on the wall at Rosies next time JK goes there ? Is he ever going back there ?Maybe from now on he should just keep the bottles of wine on hand nearby. Remember John – it’s not enough to not touch anything – don’t even look at them or even interact with anyone – because all of these people seem to interpret all of your body movements and thoughts as evil and threatening – they assume nothing but the worst of you.
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April 22, 2015 9:02pm
Left Right and Centre

It would seem that the fame that is our due has finally arrived Andrei though it would be interesting to know who spread the news.

‘NZ PM pulls hair of waitservertron’. Average American: ‘WTF is New Zondland ?
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April 22, 2015 9:05pm
Andrei

The ponytailgate thread reminded me of something but it took a while to put my finger on just what it was

But now I have it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qivGKehv3d8
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April 22, 2015 9:45pm
Fifi la Belle

Oh! Merde alors!
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April 22, 2015 10:55pm
Manolo

The UK walks towards (more) disasters: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/bookies-now-say-ed-miliband-is-more-likely-to-be-prime-minister-than-david-cameron-10190187.html

Ed Miliband is now more likely than David Cameron to be prime minister after the election, according to new bookies’ odds.
The bookmakers’ PaddyPower now has Ed Miliband at 5/6 odds, with David Cameron trailing behind on 10/11.

Despite the Tories failing to open up a sustained lead against Labour, Mr Miliband’s low personal ratings have convinced many watchers that Labour will not win the election.
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April 23, 2015 12:35am
SPC

Shonkey pulling the tail of a donkey.

A new nursery rhyme is in development.
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April 23, 2015 11:50am

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