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Michael

F E Smith
I agree re the high speed trip, specially at that time , impossible , really. Of course the Crown were trying to fit it round the pathologists time of death estimate, which was obviously incorrect, as pointed out by Bryan Bruce in his documentary . I always felt that Lundy hired that prostitute late at night [why not earlier? ] as an alibi , but not for an earlier trip but a later trip.
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April 1, 2015 5:59pm
publicwatchdog

Crikey!

I don’t even have to post a single comment on Kiwiblog, to get hordes of whiners ‘having a go’ at me!?

Sink your gums into THIS one …..

Unlike Keeping Stock’s post about my purported media release – the following is NOT an April Fool’s joke …..

__________________________________________________________________________________________________

1 April 2015

Stephen Town
CEO
Auckland Council

‘OPEN LETTER’ /PRIVACY ACT (NOT OIA) REQUEST:

Please be advised that I have yet to receive a formal written response from you, regarding my reply dated 31 October 2014, to your written offer dated 23 October 2014, regarding rates postponement, in regards to my disputed rates.

(Copies of this correspondence are included in the body of this email, as they have been sent in a ‘Privacy Act’ request to John Key, in his capacity as Prime Minister, Leader of the National Party , or ‘private citizen’.)

I have also to receive an update regarding progress on providing transparency regarding rates spending on ‘contracts issued’ by Auckland Council and Auckland Council CCOs, and making that information available for public scrutiny on Auckland Council and Auckland Council CCO websites.

I am deeply concerned to be advised by the NZ Herald

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11426123
Properties with unpaid rates being sold
……………
Activist Penny Bright’s property was second on the council’s list of eight properties, with rates of $33,598.45 owed.”

In my considered opinion, I have explained clearly, particularly in the form of detailed written legal submissions, where Auckland Council is not compliant with statutory requirements arising from the Local Government Act 2002, the Local Government (Rating) Act 2002, the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Act 1987 and the Public Records Act 2005.

Who is holding Auckland Council accountable to the ‘Rule of Law’?
______________________________________________________________________________________________________

‘OPEN LETTER’ /PRIVACY ACT (NOT OIA) REQUEST:

1) Please provide ALL/ANY information, generated by yourself, or staff employed by yourself as CEO of Auckland Council (including, but not limited to: texts, emails, phone calls, memos, letters, reports, briefings, or the like, regarding myself, Penelope Mary Bright (aka Penny Bright), and my disputed rates, and all/any related matters, with Auckland Council, and any or all of the following staff or elected representatives of Auckland Council:

a) Acting CEO
b) Auckland ‘in house’ legal staff
c) External / contracted legal staff
d) ALL/ ANY Auckland Council employee (s), particularly ALL/ANY involved in rates collection and/or rates collection enforcement.
e) ALL/ ANY Auckland Council contracted staff /consultant(s)
f )ALL/ANY Auckland Council elected representatives, including the Mayor / Deputy Mayor

2) Please provide ALL/ANY information (including, but not limited to: texts, emails, phone calls, memos, letters, reports, briefings, or the like), regarding myself, Penelope Mary Bright (aka Penny Bright), and my disputed rates and all/any related matters; with Auckland Council; and ALL/ANY staff /contractors employed by the Office of the Prime Minister, particularly Chief of Staff Wayne Eagleson, and/or John Key (as Prime Minister, Leader of the National Party or ‘private citizen’,

3) Please provide ALL/ANY information (including, but not limited to: texts, emails, phone calls, memos, letters, reports, briefings, or the like), regarding myself, Penelope Mary Bright (aka Penny Bright), and my disputed rates, and all/any related matters; with Auckland Council, and ANY /ALL other Cabinet Ministers / or Ministers outside Cabinet, particularly the Minister of Local Government Paula Bennett.

4) Please provide ALL/ANY information (including, but not limited to: texts, emails, phone calls, memos, letters, reports, briefings, or the like), regarding myself, Penelope Mary Bright (aka Penny Bright), and my disputed rates, and all/any related matters, with Auckland Council, and ALL/ANY staff /contractors employed by the Department of Internal Affairs (DIA).

5) Please provide ALL/ANY information (including, but not limited to: texts, emails, phone calls, memos, letters, reports, briefings, or the like), regarding myself, Penelope Mary Bright (aka Penny Bright), and my disputed rates, and all/any related matters; with Auckland Council, and ALL/ ANY Local Government Commissioners, or staff / contractors employed by the Local Government Commission.

6) Please provide ALL/ANY information (including, but not limited to: texts, emails, phone calls, memos, letters, reports, briefings, or the like), regarding myself, Penelope Mary Bright (aka Penny Bright), and my disputed rates, and all/any related matters; with Auckland Council, and ALL/ANY officers or staff from the Office of the Auditor-General (OAG).

7) Please provide ALL/ANY information (including, but not limited to: texts, emails, phone calls, memos, letters, reports, briefings, or the like), regarding myself, Penelope Mary Bright (aka Penny Bright), and my disputed rates, and all/any related matters; with Auckland Council, and ALL/ANY officers or staff/ contractors from the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet (DPMC).

Yours sincerely,

Penny Bright
………………
‘Anti-Corruption / Anti-Privatisation campaigner / Public Watchdog’

Attendee: 2009 Australian Public Service Anti-Corruption Conference
Attendee: 2010 Transparency International Anti-Corruption Conference
Attendee: 2013 Australian Public Service Anti-Corruption Conference
Attendee: 2014 G20 Anti-Corruption Conference

2013 Auckland Mayoral Candidate (polled 4th with 11,723 votes)

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate
________________________________________________________________________________________________

And, Waikato Girl,and others, I will use the term ‘lest we forget’ – whenever I feel that it is appropriate.

In my considered opinion, I am and have defended the supposed ‘democracy’ for which New Zealanders fought and died.

Any time you want to put your names to your posts and give examples of when and where YOU have put YOUR necks out defending the democratic rights to which New Zealanders are LAWFULLY entitled – fill your boots.

Of course – some of you are arguably just ‘bad sports’ because I was right and you were wrong about my prediction that Winston Peters would ‘nail it’ and give National a ‘hammering’ in Northland?

Diddums – you poor old silly billies?

(Meant of course in a caring way 😉

Kind regards

Penny Bright

http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
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April 1, 2015 6:00pm
cricko

F E Smith.

The incorrect estimate of the time of death by the pathologist forced the Crown to run
with that theory in the first trial.

Short of being in the courtroom personaly what would you suggest the public rely on to report
proceedings of trials if not the media ?

“I suppose that this latest verdict could also be wrong…” Yes F E , you suppose, that must be
your brilliant, sharp as a tack, flea lawyer brain at work, supposing as hard as it is able.

Brilliant post @ 5.48 mate, you suppased yourself.
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April 1, 2015 6:03pm
stigie

Hell, i guess we have been told folks. Nothing to see, move along !~
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April 1, 2015 6:19pm
Lucia Maria

The obtuseness and blindness of the zealot. No, Lucia. It is only when your own beliefs are very similar to that which you criticise that constitutes hypocrisy. Like Nukuleka did with Ngai Tahu’s beliefs. Which I think pretty much addresses the rest of the discussion about the library.

It’s very hard to get to the nub of the issue with you Kimbo.

You really dislike Catholics. Yep, that’s a given, and clear from every comment you make in which you talk about our beliefs. However, you cannot speak civilly without insults (ie, just to make it clear, where you said: “The obtuseness and blindness of the zealot”, that was insulting and unnecessary. Unless you are deliberately trying to offend and provoke. Which you ,~~are~~ appear to be. In other words, another goading statement.)

You consider Catholicism to be similar to Maori paganism. Seriously?

Where have I said that Nuku, or you, or any Catholic is not allowed to comment?

Here:

No, what I’ve done is shown that when Nuku makes the criticism that it is a “nutty world” when Ngai Tahu are consulted on architecture and colour patterns of a public library, that critiscim is hypocritical given Nuku’s willingness to go in to bat for Catholicism.

In other words, anyone who “goes to bat for Catholicism” should not be making any criticisms here without being considered a hypocrite. That’s another way of saying that person should not presume to comment.

Just don’t expect to get a free pass if and when a Catholic apologist goes attacking the beliefs of others and wants to make it the subject of debate. It can, and will be criticised. Deal with it. It is NOT persecution. It is called debating ideas. Like Ngai Tahu’s beliefs, and whether or not it should be reflected in the public architecture of public buildings in their district.

Why not defend those beliefs then, rather than attacking the beliefs of the “Catholic apologist”. Hmmm?

Why not do what I do which is point out what the person is doing without the added personal attack on everything they might believe. Again, see how I’m not doing what you’ve done back at you.

And the arguably equally silly/superstitious spiritual beliefs of those who presume to criticise them.

Well that sort of answers my question, in that it’s only Catholic beliefs that get you this hot and bothered.
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April 1, 2015 6:22pm
Rowan

Cricko/dumbarse @ 5.02
I never stated that so you are full of shit, I don’t have a position on Lundys guilt or innocence which I explicitly stated. You are a complete f…wit, I don’t think the case is ‘BRD’ but the jury do so I respect their decision. Get over yourself!
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April 1, 2015 6:22pm
F E Smith

Kimbo,

isn’t it a legal fallacy that the Crown has to account for all of the details of the crime?

Well, they have to prove all of the elements of the charge, which can be different to the details, although not always. What they cannot do, but often try, is resort to speculation about how a particular event occurred. Often it is tempting to try to fill in the blanks with speculation when the prosecutors should just let the evidence speak for itself.

Michael, the thing is that when the prostitute left so did his alibi. I don’t know the reasons why, but criminal offending of this nature is rarely well planned!
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April 1, 2015 6:25pm
Viking2

stephieboy (4,918 comments) says:
April 1st, 2015 at 2:19 pm

At this point of time the Lundy jury is still out and the reports are they are deeply divided . The Judge I understand told them a 11 to 1 decision would be acceptable for or against.

I’m going for a hung jury or an acquittal !
=================================
That turned out well then stephieboy.
Perhaps you will leave us in peace now that your judgement of things has been proven shonkey.
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April 1, 2015 6:53pm
BlairM

I was relieved to see the Lundy verdict. However, the trial was necessary. The cops got it wrong the first time, and if you want to blame anybody for the extra ordeal and expense, blame them.

There was no smoking gun in the case that I could see – even the brain tissue could have been discounted. But all the elements were there, and what really swung it for me was Lundy claiming to the cops that his petrol had been siphoned! Dude, nobody hangs around motels to siphon petrol – they’ll just do drive-offs. It was an obvious lie, and one that removed any doubt that he was the man wot dunnit.
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April 1, 2015 7:01pm
cricko

Well, there we have the birds of a feather Rowan and F E Smith flocking together.

F E Smith ‘supposes’ that this verdict could also be wrong. Of course, by the same token, accept F E Smiths
reasoning and any verdict under the sun ‘could’ also be wrong.

I wonder if a huge legal mind like F E Smith would concede that after a conviction in a trial by a jury of
his peers, an apeal to the Privy Council and a second conviction by another jury of his peers, that Lundy
is and was guilty.

What basis would a huge legal brain like F E Smith have for “supposing” that this latest verdict could also
be wrong ?

And BlairM, the cops didn’t get it wrong at the first trial, the pathologist did, and he admitted that he did during the second trial.
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April 1, 2015 7:01pm
Manolo

Obama fights to implement UN global warming directives: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/republicans-warn-world-obama-u-n-plan-could-231904316.html
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April 1, 2015 7:01pm
Manolo

Is stephieDevoy a Bainite and Lundyite at the same time?
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April 1, 2015 7:02pm
Rowan

Cricko
Thomas was wrongly convicted twice as was Teina Pora, it does happen, again I have no opinion on whether Lundy did it or not!
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April 1, 2015 7:05pm
Harriet

Kimbo#

“…..Just don’t expect to get a free pass if and when a Catholic apologist goes attacking the beliefs of others and wants to make it the subject of debate. It can, and will be criticised. Deal with it. It is NOT persecution….”

So………with you being a protestant Kimbo -namely a Calvanist- what’s your excuse for not then becoming a Puritan – why stop at Calvanism? 😎

Lucia#

Ignore the ramblings of the protestants………. I want to read pt3 of your maths blog. 😎
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April 1, 2015 7:10pm
nasska

Harriet

The other night (Fri 6th) you informed us that you were hosting a gay couple for dinner. As you have lead us to believe that same sex attraction is learned behaviour & possibly contagious could you answer these questions honestly?

Using a scale of (1) = “ho hum” to (10) = “do you like my new open at the arse leather night-club pants?” …..please indicate:

a) How gay were you before the visit?
b) How strong was your urge to lube up & bend over during the visit?
c) How gay are you now?

Ta. 🙂
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April 1, 2015 7:14pm
minus

Penny
To balance your “Open Letter’ to Mr Stephen Town, CEO, Auckland Council, why have you not also posted here your last letter to Mr Town, as you indicate, dated 31 October 2014?

It would also eliminate a certain amount of repetitious speculation on this blog if you could inform us please –
Do you intend to pay any part of the rates you have so far with-held during the period Auckland Council have not being complying fully with the Local Government (Rating) Act 2002, sending you invalid rates assessments and invoices?
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April 1, 2015 7:15pm
David Garrett

cricko: You are a fuckwit…the standard of proof: Beyond REASONABLE doubt is, by definition, less stringent than beyond ANY doubt…what FE is saying is completely correct…and you don’t really need legal training to see it, just a few clues more than average…

I agree with those who say this second trial was necessary. Like many others, I was very disquieted that his conviction the first time was based on a theory of the case built around a car trip that was clearly impossible. That in turn of course was based on an estimated time of death that was hours different from the second theory of the case. In sense, it is highly significant that two juries found him guilty based on two quite different theories of the case.

This case is yet another which supports my view that CP should not return. If Lundy had been executed after the first trial, he would have become a cause celebre such as Hanratty in the UK. Unlike Hanratty however, DNA obtained from the victim(s) could never have proved the matter one way or another. So instead of being the “despicable human being” that his own brother calls him, Lundy would have become an example of “the wrong man”, along with Thomas, Bain and Scott Watson.

In addition to the other reasons for not reintroducing CP, the New Zealand Police make far too many mistakes for it ever to be a safe option. I hope to God I am never in their sights for a murder.
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April 1, 2015 7:20pm
Harriet

“…..The other night (Fri 6th) you informed us that you were hosting a gay couple for dinner. As you have lead us to believe that same sex attraction is learned behaviour & possibly contagious could you answer these questions honestly?…”

No the wife hosted them – I just followed her shin kicking orders. 😎

They’ve moved in a couple of houses away for about 3 months – one is on a short term work contract.
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April 1, 2015 7:22pm
nasska

You’ve dodged the question Harriet.

Are you now feeling unbelievably gay as a result of that social contact? 🙂
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April 1, 2015 7:26pm
Lucia Maria

Harriet,

Yes, I need to get onto that at some point soon. I’ve been distracted with thinking of how to fill a major gap in the maths market here. Not sure if I want to do it yet, still thinking about feasibility, etc. Actually, doing part 3 and more will probably help. Thanks for the reminder!
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April 1, 2015 7:29pm
Harriet

Nassareth#

“….You’ve dodged the question Harriet…..Are you now feeling unbelievably gay as a result of that social contact?…”

I wish…….but they weren’t lesbians. 😎
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April 1, 2015 7:37pm
Andrei

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OJyKyinpks
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April 1, 2015 7:39pm
Griff

Come on nasska harry it is gay.
why else would he use a girls name other than being a lady boy.
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April 1, 2015 7:40pm
cricko

Jeez David Garrett,

You are letting yourself down on this one too.

I understand the difference between reasonable doubt and any doubt.

Where have you inferred from what I posted that I did not understand the difference ?
Answer that question if you can.

I reply in kind to the 1st paragraph of your effort above. No, you are the fuckwit here Garrett.

The last three paragraphs of your effort I have no problem with.
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April 1, 2015 7:42pm
Lucia Maria

Andrei,

Personal message for me, huh?
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April 1, 2015 7:45pm
Andrei

A reminder of something you should never forget that’s all Lucia.
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April 1, 2015 7:49pm
Rowan

Manalo @ 7.02
If you haven’t already worked it out Stephie is a complete whackjob and totally out of his depth on both cases!
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April 1, 2015 7:50pm
cricko

By the way Garrett,

Do you agree with your mate F E Smith ?

Do you also ‘suppose’ that this second jury verdict of guilty for Lundy could be wrong ?
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April 1, 2015 7:57pm
David Garrett

cricko: If you have to ask whether I agree with FE you have just proved the truth of my label of you…

Of course it COULD be wrong…but I very much doubt it…but just to spell it out for you, he has rightly been found guilty beyond REASONABLE doubt…but NOT beyond ANY shred of doubt at all…I can’t do any better than that…
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April 1, 2015 8:01pm
Kimbo

@ Lucia Maria

You consider Catholicism to be similar to Maori paganism. Seriously?

In certain aspects, absolutely. And I actually made an effort – the allegedly spiritually significant nature of church architecture and the colours of vestments – to aid you in drawing the dots. And if you don’t like the answer…don’t ask the question. That would be standard Reformation Protestant doctrine…as well as the assessment of plenty of agnostics and atheists (who would no doubt consider the same of Protestantism. Notice how I’m not getting my knickers in a twist at that possibility, or screaming “bigot” and “persecution” as and when they invariably do, wat dabney being a classic example? They can write what they want, and good luck to ’em)

But more to the point, I’m not surprised you asked that rhetorical question, given your inability to step outside the plausibility structures of your belief system and view and critique it from the outside. Which is the failing of zealots of every description, and the reason they are zealots.

And that is the nub of the issue, and why I called Nukuleka out over it. Glasshouses. People in. Throwing stones.

There! Problem sorted!

No, what I’ve done is shown that when Nuku makes the criticism that it is a “nutty world” when Ngai Tahu are consulted on architecture and colour patterns of a public library, that critiscim is hypocritical given Nuku’s willingness to go in to bat for Catholicism.

In other words, anyone who “goes to bat for Catholicism” should not be making any criticisms here without being considered a hypocrite.

No, if you regularly go into bat for Catholicism…and it also turns out that Catholicism has many similarities with the things that you choose to criticise…then, just like anyone else, be they a Greenie, left-wing radical, pig-headed conservative, Protestant apologist or anti-fluoride activist, be prepared to be called out for your hypocrisy when you try it on in the public domain.

There! Problem sorted!

Why not defend those beliefs then, rather than attacking the beliefs of the “Catholic apologist”. Hmmm?

Why not do what I do which is point out what the person is doing without the added personal attack on everything they might believe. Again, see how I’m not doing what you’ve done back at you.

Because I refuse to accept the initial premise upon which the person with superstitious beliefs criticised others with arguably equally superstitious beliefs. Which, given the authoritarian nature and means by which the Catholic dogma is taught is why, in my experience, zealous Catholics automatically and unwittingly adopt the same authoritarian and precious “how dare you criticise my pressupositions and assumeptions! This is a personal and bigoted attack!” position when they try it on in a public domain where their question and debate-framing is not automatically accepted.

There! Problem sorted!
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April 1, 2015 8:14pm
Harriet

Lucia#

Good idea about filling the gap – and if the teachers don’t want to then why not?

I came across this post the other day, the small website is well worth looking at if you are a teenage math student :

http://wmueller.com/precalculus/whatis/0.html

And I use this very helpful site, as most questions relating to me have already been asked under ‘related questions’, and the replies point out the best books, lecture notes, websites ect to learn from. I find it very easy to stay motivated when I have a list of the best books/websites that I can go to:

http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/837852/very-elementary-number-theory-and-combinatorics-books?rq=1

Cheers Lucia.
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April 1, 2015 8:15pm
Kimbo

@ Harriet

So………with you being a protestant Kimbo -namely a Calvanist- what’s your excuse for not then becoming a Puritan – why stop at Calvanism? 😎

They are arguably the same thing.

Although as the current Monarch and her Government is, unlike Charles II, not married to a Roman Catholic and under the sway of a zealous French Catholic tyrant (Louis XIV) bent on persecuting Protestants (such as revoking the Edict of Nantes), or launching an invasion on our realm through Roman Catholic-dominated Ireland, and the state church is not dominated by a narrow-minded quasi-Catholic liturgist (Archbishop William Laud)

…I’m not so sure the political outlook of 17th Century English Puritans is readily applicable to New Zealand Calvinists c2015 😉
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April 1, 2015 8:29pm
Manolo

Rats would be less harmful: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3020411/Migrants-quit-Calais-camp-leave-rubbish-behind.html

Strewn with filthy sleeping bags, burnt-out beer cans, clothes and shoes, this is the scene left behind as the last migrants move out of an illegal camp in Calais. What was once a sports hall for factory workers resembles a rubbish dump, with mattresses, cardboard boxes and tents all abandoned.

The detritus has been left by the 2,000-strong group of migrants who have been sleeping rough on the site for more than a year as they try to reach Britain.
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April 1, 2015 8:41pm
cricko

Garrett
I have no desire for this to go all night but….

Don’t dodge the question this time. I’ll try again..

You called me a fuckwit because you thought I failed to understand the difference between reasonable
doubt and any doubt. I do not.
One of us is a fuckwit, thats for sure.

If you are not the fuckwit here then you will be able to point to what I posted that caused you to take
that incorrect inferrence.
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April 1, 2015 8:47pm
David Garrett

Oh dear…
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April 1, 2015 8:49pm
john whyte

Hey David,

Quick question for you – does Lundy’s conviction count as a strike as it was found guilty this time around after the legislation came into force?
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April 1, 2015 8:55pm
cricko

No !
Oh dear me.
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April 1, 2015 8:58pm
Keeping Stock

Unlike Keeping Stock’s post about my purported media release – the following is NOT an April Fool’s joke …..

Got you a good one, eh Penny you silly Billy (meant in a caring way, of course) 😀
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April 1, 2015 9:29pm
Nookin

I refer to my 10.32 am post and in particular:
“While there is no doubt at all that she regards anybody else on Kiwiblog with contempt, and she comes to this site for the very limited purposes of self-aggrandizement and denigration of others, I think that that her use of the term “lest we forget” is attributable to her somewhat inflated notion that her ideals (and herself) should be exalted in much the same manner as we revere the fallen soldiers.”
All_on_red said (3.04 p.m.)

“Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of ultraconfidence lies a fragile self-esteem that’s vulnerable to the slightest criticism.”

Judge Wilson QC (para 125 of his judgment against the Occupy Auckland movement) observed that while Occupy Auckland (which included Penny among its number) proclaimed adherence to participatory democracy, the evidence established that they did not practice what they preached (a judicially recognized hypocrite or someone lacking empathy?)

Penny says

“And, Waikato Girl,and others, I will use the term ‘lest we forget’ – whenever I feel that it is appropriate.
In my considered opinion, I am and have defended the supposed ‘democracy’ for which New Zealanders fought and died.”
My question is this:
If someone was genuinely focussed on the potential loss of democratic rights, would they not justify the use of the words “lest we forget” by stressing the importance of the ideals rather than the importance (self-assessed and not supported by the judgment above) of the person concerned? Penny justifies her entitlement to use the term because of her importance, not the importance of what we should not be forgetting.

Has she not simply proved the validity of my point that her use of the term “lest we forget” is attributable to her somewhat inflated notion that her ideals (and herself) should be exalted in much the same manner as we revere the fallen soldiers –a notion that now, according to her own expressed sentiments, focused more on herself than her ideals? And, if you have any doubt at all about the central focus, read the opening 17 paragraphs of her submissions in the Occupy Auckland case, here http://www.occupyaucklandvsaucklandcouncilappeal.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/OCCUPY-AUCKLAND-APPEAL-CIV-2011-404-8284-SUBMISSIONS-OF-PENELOPE-MARY-BRIGHT-26-JULY-2012f.pdf.

If it is too much for you, just scan it and see how often the word “I” appears.
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April 1, 2015 11:03pm
Manolo

More peaceful followers of vile Islam: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3021861/Nine-Britons-arrested-Turkish-police-try-illegally-enter-Syria.html

Nine British nationals have been arrested while trying to cross the border into Syria illegally, the Turkish Armed forces say.

The military says they were taken into custody in Hatay province, southern Turkey, but the military statement did not specify when the arrests were made. The Britons arrested are three men, two women and four children, Sky News reports.
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April 2, 2015 6:53am
publicwatchdog

Nookin – in the Occupy Auckland vs Auckland Council court proceedings, having been one of two people individually singled from hundreds of Occupy Auckland ‘protestors’ as a ‘Named Respondent’, I was defending MYSELF and speaking for MYSELF.

So, funnily enough, yes, I did use the term “I” a lot.

Sheesh!

What’s your real problem Nookin?

You just can’t handle the jandal that a female ‘Tradie’, who’s never been to University, or had a days formal legal training, can successfully stick up for herself, and help BEAT ‘City Hall’?

You can’t help your chronic ‘wilful blindness’ or ‘wilful THICKNESS’ – in refusing to accept that the role of anti-corruption whistle-blowers is to make a FUSS about these issues, in order to draw public attention and focus to matters that others are not?

Or are you simply mean-spirited and refuse to give credit where it is due?

Decent people, in my experience, don’t act in that way.

Oh well.

So be it.

However – despite the whining hordes of anonymous, gutless Kiwibloggers, who outnumber me in droves, I will NOT stop telling the truth, however ‘inconvenient’ you may find that to be.

It’s called ‘freedom of expression’?

Thank you David Farrar (again), for, in my opinion and experience, practicing what you preach on YOUR Libertarian blog.

Kind regards

Penny Bright

http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
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April 2, 2015 12:53pm
Nookin

“I will NOT stop telling the truth, …”

Most here are waiting for you to start.
Just saying.
In a caring way, of course.
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