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Andrei

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

British military to train ‘moderate’ Syrian rebels as ministers ramp up campaign against ISIS
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March 27, 2015 10:27am
Manolo

Better late than never! 🙂
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March 27, 2015 10:27am
Manolo

Hardworker in Chief? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/25/inside-the-beltway-obama-takes-another-golf-weeken/

Just a brief bulletin, then we’ll move right along. Time to fire up Air Force, because President Obama is off to the Treasure Coast of Florida this weekend, specifically Palm City.
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March 27, 2015 10:30am
dime

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11423788

this was the 2nd lead story on the herald today.

some asshole who owns a lambo parking in a disability car park.

first of all – dime cant stand pricks who do that. usually the ones i see are losers in shit cars

but how sad from the herald. i guess we are all meant to automatically hate anyone with an expensive car. then add the bad parking and its just arghh
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March 27, 2015 10:35am
cricko

Everyone is equal before the Law in New Zealand.

But of course some are more equal than others.
A few dollars can be a big help.

http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=204219&cat=986&fm=newsmain%2Cnarts

And if you are a “prominent” New Zealander then the old boys network will always see you right.
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March 27, 2015 10:37am
Colville

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3011547/Piers-Morgan-Dear-Jeremy-big-mistake-hitting-loyal-hard-working-producer-not-again.html

Piers actually not talking bollocks!
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March 27, 2015 10:37am
Paulus Gnome

Good news story to (almost!) start the day before the climate change terrorists take over the meme.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11423773

If a smile is worth a thousand words, then this is it; nothing more delightful than a child’s.

Roll on Sunday for New Zealand crickets finest hour, win or otherwise.
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March 27, 2015 10:39am
hj

A 2011 paper in PNAS [ Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America] suggested that ethnocentrism may be mediated by the oxytocin hormone. It found that in randomized controlled trials “oxytocin creates intergroup bias because oxytocin motivates in-group favoritism and, to a lesser extent, out-group derogation”.[10]

In The Selfish Gene, evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins writes that “Blood-feuds and inter-clan warfare are easily interpretable in terms of Hamilton’s genetic theory.”[11] Simulation-based experiments in evolutionary game theory have attempted to provide an explanation for the selection of ethnocentric-strategy phenotypes.[12]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism#Biology_and_evolutionary_theory
But it’s not allright (despite manifest advantages )
Homosexuallity is alright – because it has a biological basis: it would be cruel to deny it (yet love of your country; it’s people, culture, shared history is bad)?
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Sacha, in reply to jh, about a year ago WebTwitter
delegitimize European NZ
so you’re saying that some notion of “European” NZ is legitimate?
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March 27, 2015 10:40am
hj

Love of your country and it’s people is banned. A masochistic sharing of NZ nothingness is ok.
As Kim Hill put it “no group thinks the’re in charge; no group thinks the’re the cat’s pyjamis” – Playing Favourites
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March 27, 2015 10:47am
dime

hj – Dime had a blood test this morning. it was a 30 minute wait. most of the people there didnt speak english to the point that they didnt realise they were being called. it would have sent you over the edge 😀

to be fair, i think people born here should have a priority check in for any public service 🙂 🙂
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March 27, 2015 10:50am
stephieboy

hj, “Homosexuality is alright – because it has a biological basis: it would be cruel to deny it (yet love of your country; it’s people, culture, shared history is bad)?”

Does Heterosexuality have a biological basis ? Who saying your love of country , it’s people etc is bad ? I suppose it depends from what perspective one is coming from. I would say an exclusive ultra nationalist perspective such as the Nazis or Croatia in WW2 would be bad would it not ?
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March 27, 2015 10:51am
alex Masterley

Dime,
Tell the room loudly that you have come to drop your stool samples off.
Clears a room better than anything I have seen!
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March 27, 2015 10:53am
IGM

Is it true Winnie has been seen once again frequenting Slobcrim bunker . . . could explain funding for his latest campaign. Maybe Slobcrim will repay $158,000 plus interest Winnie owes NZ taxpayers, then Winnie could, with clear conscience, push for his citizenship; even Public Dog may be in for some left-over Tux for its rates.
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March 27, 2015 10:55am
hj

It doesn’t send me over the edge Dime it it the straight faced matenance of the lie in official circles that sends me over the edge. It is the hegemony of the left over Radio NZ and academia etc that sends me over the edge; it is Spoonley emphatically stating “we need their skills for the NZ economy ” and getting away with it. It is $5.5m to study “super diversity “.
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March 27, 2015 10:56am
Zapper

Who else is going to the MCG on Sunday? I’ve been too excited all week to work or sleep. We’re huge underdogs, but it should be an amazing occasion. Come on the Black Caps!!!!
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March 27, 2015 10:56am
Fletch

Obama’s revenge on Israel and Netanyahu – he releases details of the Israeli nuclear programme that the U.S has kept secret since 1987.

In a development that has largely been missed by mainstream media, the Pentagon early last month quietly declassified a Department of Defense top-secret document detailing Israel’s nuclear program, a highly covert topic that Israel has never formally announced to avoid a regional nuclear arms race, and which the US until now has respected by remaining silent.

But by publishing the declassified document from 1987, the US reportedly breached the silent agreement to keep quiet on Israel’s nuclear powers for the first time ever, detailing the nuclear program in great depth.

The timing of the revelation is highly suspect, given that it came as tensions spiraled out of control between Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and US President Barack Obama ahead of Netanyahu’s March 3 address in Congress, in which he warned against the dangers of Iran’s nuclear program and how the deal being formed on that program leaves the Islamic regime with nuclear breakout capabilities.

Another highly suspicious aspect of the document is that while the Pentagon saw fit to declassify sections on Israel’s sensitive nuclear program, it kept sections on Italy, France, West Germany and other NATO countries classified, with those sections blocked out in the document.

The 386-page report entitled “Critical Technological Assessment in Israel and NATO Nations” gives a detailed description of how Israel advanced its military technology and developed its nuclear infrastructure and research in the 1970s and 1980s.

Israel is “developing the kind of codes which will enable them to make hydrogen bombs. That is, codes which detail fission and fusion processes on a microscopic and macroscopic level,” reveals the report, stating that in the 1980s Israelis were reaching the ability to create bombs considered a thousand times more powerful than atom bombs.

The revelation marks a first in which the US published in a document a description of how Israel attained hydrogen bombs.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/193175#.VRNZ1vnF-yi

How is this not out-and-out traitorous by Obama? Every day, the man does something else to prove what an utter a-hole he is.
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March 27, 2015 10:58am
Manolo

Is it true Winnie and the corrupt rate-bludger have been seen once again frequenting Slobcrim bunker . . . could explain funding for their latest campaign.

Small addition.
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March 27, 2015 11:00am
Fletch

Mitt Romney appears on Fallon and lets fly with the Obama, Hillary zingers 😛

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHCFqjxpuPY
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March 27, 2015 11:01am
stephieboy

UglyTruth (5,639 comments) says:

March 27th, 2015 at 10:01 am

“Not purely illusory. If you do the math you cant find out how much the light path is curved.”

That demands further explanation in plain language ? Are you saying that somehow a curved light path creates the illusion the earth is a sphere .
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March 27, 2015 11:01am
dime

Dime officially kicked the WO blog into touch today.

Theres only so many weak anti-jk stories i can bother to read.

Can you guys let me know if WO comes up with anything useful?

Dime enjoys seeing him rip articles about poor people to shread and legitimate scandals.. not his implied shit like “just wait till i write about blah blah:
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March 27, 2015 11:08am
hj

Stephieboy
Who saying your love of country , it’s people etc is bad ? I
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Sacha
so you’re saying that some notion of “European” NZ is legitimate?
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Remember the purpose of Labour immigration policy:

The attitudes of New Zealanders in the mid-1990s
towards immigration may not have reflected the positive perspective on the
value of diversity in our society that is contained in the Review of
Immigration Policy August 1986. But this does not mean that the globalisation
of immigration to New Zealand was an “unintended consequence of policy
changes in 1986”. It was a deliberate strategy, based on a premise that the
“infusion of new elements to New Zealand life has been of immense value to
the development of this country to date and will, as a result of this
Government’s review of immigration policy, become even more important in
the future” (Burke 1986:330).

These changes were “long awaited” (Bedford) by whom? Obviously not *the people*.
I made my case quoting Kim Hill above.

You will argue that we are a jar still filling up (but never full) and therefore we must be fair to the rest of the world, however it is not fair to Kiwis when basket case countries Kiwis don’t want to migrate to themselves, are involved.
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March 27, 2015 11:10am
hj

Stephieboy

I would say an exclusive ultra nationalist perspective such as the Nazis or Croatia in WW2 would be bad would it not ?
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It is true that ethnocentrism can go rabid but it doesn’t have to and what about the advantages such as a warm glow in the heart of the common people, the increased altruism etc

There is no need for a weasel word (diversity ) to describe the cohesion of a homogeneous society.
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March 27, 2015 11:21am
BeaB

If we wonder why Northland is so backward, perhaps we need look no further than the eagerness of its voters to dump a representative of a government that is steering us into a period of sustained prosperity and fall for the dubious charms of a snake oil merchant like Peters.
How dumb can you get?
And WO is still beating his sad old anti-National drum in the hope Collins and Williamson will topple Key and rule the world.
Equally dumb.
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March 27, 2015 11:27am
hj

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity

By Michael Jonas | August 5, 2007

IT HAS BECOME increasingly popular to speak of racial and ethnic diversity as a civic strength. From multicultural festivals to pronouncements from political leaders, the message is the same: our differences make us stronger.

But a massive new study, based on detailed interviews of nearly 30,000 people across America, has concluded just the opposite. Harvard political scientist Robert Putnam — famous for “Bowling Alone,” his 2000 book on declining civic engagement — has found that the greater the diversity in a community, the fewer people vote and the less they volunteer, the less they give to charity and work on community projects. In the most diverse communities, neighbors trust one another about half as much as they do in the most homogenous settings. The study, the largest ever on civic engagement in America, found that virtually all measures of civic health are lower in more diverse settings.

“The extent of the effect is shocking,” says Scott Page, a University of Michigan political scientist
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this may help explain Labours small penis election result? A few good posts from Mikey Savage or a spot on Wallace should put things right though.
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March 27, 2015 11:31am
alloytoo

@Dime

Can’t help you chum, can’t be arsed to go there myself.
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March 27, 2015 11:32am
Tarquin North

I got banned and don’t want to go back.
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March 27, 2015 11:36am
hj

If we wonder why Northland is so backward, perhaps we need look no further than the eagerness of its voters to dump a representative of a government that is steering us into a period of sustained prosperity and fall for the dubious charms of a snake oil merchant like Peters.
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if you call a property developer nation prosperity. We have see property prices defie gravity and there is a school of thought that they are unhinged from the local economy. What’s more we are being over run to ensure this process keeps on keeping on. That’s the John Key miracle – he made a lot of money but not through useful products or services in the real economy- only for Merrill Lynch.
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March 27, 2015 11:37am
UglyTruth

That demands further explanation in plain language ?

Did you really think I was serious when I said that sunrise and sunset were obscure astronomical phenomena?

The point was that light curves to make a spherical earth earth appear flat in some cases.
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March 27, 2015 11:45am
hj

Prudence dictates “one foot for the wharf and one for the boat”. Nationals policy is “let’s increase the population and then we will achieve (as yet 20 years on) unseen benefits” and if it doesn’t work well be out of office and the good old boys will be (rightfully ) wealthy.
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March 27, 2015 11:47am
stephieboy

It was apparently a deliberate act by the co-pilot Andreas Lubitz to fly the plan into the ground.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3012937/Germanwings-pilot-Andreas-Lubitz-28-praised-exceptional-flying-skills-rising-star-fleet.html

This guy it seems deliberately took the lives of children and babies as well as adults. There is certainly a need for greater scrutiny of pilots. but immpregnable cockpit door security is another thing .

Previous known pilot suicides and MH Flight 370 is thought to be one .

http://news.aviation-safety.net/2013/12/22/list-of-aircraft-accidents-caused-by-pilot-suicide/
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March 27, 2015 11:49am
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

Did anyone see the clip of Auckland Council meeting where Len Brown behaved like a petulant child after CAthey Casey upset the poor night-mayor ? Un-fucken-believable !!!! This is why we need recall elections for Auckland Supercity.
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March 27, 2015 11:52am
dime

“Did anyone see the clip of Auckland Council meeting where Len Brown behaved like a petulant child after CAthey Casey upset the poor night-mayor ? Un-fucken-believable !!!! This is why we need recall elections for Auckland Supercity.”

being on the council is a part time gig right?

Dime is so tempted to run.
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March 27, 2015 11:54am
Nukuleka

If Winston does indeed win Northland I fail to see how this result can in any way enhance the standing of Angry Andy as Leader of a party that has been absent in the Northland campaign- having marooned their candidate and encouraged voters to ensure she comes a dismal third in the voting- and whose sole approach has been one of negativity.

Labour loathe Winston, and the Labour Party blog The Standard, in advocating its Northland members to vote for Winston, suggested they hold their noses tightly as they did it. Greg Crosland even suggested they say a few ‘Hail Marys’ for absolution afterwards.

There is absolutely no comparison with Epsom, where National voters would, in the main, find much in ACT policies with which they sympathised. Labour voters who give Winston the tick will be doing so in the full knowledge that he represents so much that Labour abhors. At least John Key in 2011 was prepared to be seen sitting down for a cuppa with John Banks. Angry Andy just issues ambiguous weasel words and gets his Standardista acolytes to do the dirty work for him.
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March 27, 2015 11:59am
hj

Depression seems to be a feeling of being at a banquet but loosing all sensation. It’s a shame the Co pilot couldn’t have found a better way to get the picture back.
They say there were no depressed people in concentration camps.
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March 27, 2015 12:13pm
stephieboy

UglyTruth (5,640 comments) says:
March 27th, 2015 at 11:45 am,

good so you accept the earth is a sphere after all and your not in any way sympathetic to the aims of the Flat Earth society ?
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March 27, 2015 12:17pm
Lance

@stephieboy
UT probably does accept the earth is a sphere… but it is hollow and the realm of the lizard overlords.
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March 27, 2015 12:22pm
Viking2

BeaB (2,227 comments) says:
March 27th, 2015 at 11:27 am

If we wonder why Northland is so backward, perhaps we need look no further than the eagerness of its voters to dump a representative of a government that is steering us into a period of sustained prosperity and fall for the dubious charms of a snake oil merchant like Peters.
How dumb can you get?
And WO is still beating his sad old anti-National drum in the hope Collins and Williamson will topple Key and rule the world.
Equally dumb.
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Well of course that is ignoring about 50 years of history a in Northland where the Nats. have held that seat for most of that time. Frankly did fuck all for Northland which is a well recorded fact. Look around you.

Tauranga was and remains the same. Safe for the Nats and despite being the biggest and about to be bigger port, the transport infrastructure is lagging years behind and what good stuff we had we have either built ourselves and have to pay tolls to use. Something that will continue once the state take responsibility for a road like those they build for everywhere else for free.

The Tauranga to Waihi Rd is diabolical and that and tolls could well be the subject for the next election just to shift soppy Simon off.
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March 27, 2015 12:29pm
EAD

This quote sums up the John Key reign perfectly and I think explains what is going on in Northland:

“There was so much promise and the hope that Key could deal to so many issues when we got rid of Clarke.

What has eventuated has been a huge disappointment.

I think many are trying to tell the Nats but they think they know best. I will not even bother talking to my MP who is in cabinet because he is so pathetic and just parrots the Key line.

I hope kiwis are waking up and as you suggest Northland may reflect a backlash”

http://truebluenz.com/2015/03/26/whaleoil-blog-feeling-the-heat-for-anti-national-stance/
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March 27, 2015 12:30pm
lolitasbrother

I met David Seymour [ACT] in Christchurch her; and he is a remarkable bloke. He speaks fast and you have to keep up; he is the best from our stable. This man has a good future, and we must keep him in there.
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March 27, 2015 12:36pm
lolitasbrother

I met David Seymour [ACT] in Christchurch here; and he is a remarkable bloke. He speaks fast and you have to keep up; he is the best from our stable. This man has a good future, and we must keep him in there.
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March 27, 2015 12:36pm
Inandout

stephieboy: Another interesting slant on this pilot’s background:

http://romancatholicimperialist.blogspot.co.nz/2015/03/muslim-convert-co-pilot-andreas-gunter.html
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March 27, 2015 12:42pm
Lance

@EAD
So Northland is worse off than what other electorate?
And if this is a message to the govt what it is?

We want more spending but no tax increases?

Good luck with that, that is the realm of Winny Peters bullshit.
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March 27, 2015 12:42pm
Sponge

Did you really think I was serious when I said that sunrise and sunset were obscure astronomical phenomena?

Well you can hardly blame anyone for that after all of the batshit crazy stuff you DO appear to believe. That you might be a flat earther is entirely plausible.
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March 27, 2015 12:43pm
hj

Last election I PRENT sniffed around the NZ First conference: a bit like investigating a blocked drain at the Greasy Spoon) for the “voice of the Labour Movement” (I Poofta).
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March 27, 2015 12:49pm
Hugh Pavletich

AMERICANS LOVE BIG HOT SUBURBS … THE ATLANTIC

Posted at … New Zealand’s economy booms! – MacroBusiness Australia … http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2015/03/new-zealands-economy-booms/ … with extensive further material …

Americans Love Big Hot Suburbs — The Atlantic

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/everybody-is-moving-to-texas/388775/

… and bigger homes …

Trulia Survey: Many Americans Want a Bigger House – US News

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2015/02/26/trulia-survey-many-americans-want-a-bigger-house

… where it is affordable …

2015 11th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey

http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf

Hugh Pavletich
Co-author Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey
http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/ & http://info.scoop.co.nz/Hugh_Pavletich & http://info.scoop.co.nz/Performance_Urban_Planning & http://info.scoop.co.nz/Demographia
Christchurch
NEW ZEALAND
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March 27, 2015 12:51pm
UglyTruth

UT probably does accept the earth is a sphere… but it is hollow and the realm of the lizard overlords.

There’s no reason to think that lizards rule the hollow Earth.

Why would Byrd say that the world was shrinking?

Admiral Richard E. Byrd warned today that the United States should adopt measures of protection against the possibility of an invasion of the country by hostile planes coming from the polar regions. The admiral explained that he was not trying to scare anyone, but the cruel reality is that in case of a new war, the United States could be attacked by planes flying over one or both poles. This statement was made as part of a recapitulation of his own polar experience, in an exclusive interview with International News Service. Talking about the recently completed expedition, Byrd said that the most important result of his observations and discoveries is the potential effect that they have in relation to the security of the United States. The fantastic speed with which the world is shrinking – recalled the admiral – is one of the most important lessons learned during his recent Antarctic exploration. I have to warn my compatriots that the time has ended when we were able to take refuge in our isolation and rely on the certainty that the distances, the oceans, and the poles were a guarantee of safety.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Highjump
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March 27, 2015 12:55pm
hj

Study: Sprawl Costs the U.S. Economy $1 Trillion Annually

The study finds that Americans living in sprawled communities directly bear $625 billion in total incremental costs and impose an extra $400 billion in external costs on governments, businesses and other households. Correcting this problem provides an opportunity to increase economic productivity, improve public safety and health and protect the environment. The report identifies specific smarter growth policies that can lead to healthier, safer and wealthier communities in both developed and developing countries.
http://www.planetizen.com/node/74903
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March 27, 2015 1:00pm
hj

Houston May Decide to Fence Itself In

(Updated: 03/24/2015) Houston’s lack of zoning has always presented a paradox. On the one hand, it’s a conservative policy, giving private enterprise a free hand to build the city, and profit from it, as it sees fit. On the other hand, it has been a radical experiment in city-building, being the only major city in the United States without strict land-use controls.

For over ten years, a nonprofit group called Blueprint Houston has claimed that the experiment has been, if not a failure, then at least problematic. Led by planner Peter Park, Blueprint Houston has led the movement to consider smarter ways for Houston to cope with its explosive growth and perhaps rein in some of the sprawl that has resulted from rampant speculation and leapfrog development: “for Houston, the relationship between development and transportation needs to be addressed—not just cars and future traffic, but also the relationships between development and various types of transportation beyond the automobile.”
http://www.planetizen.com/node/74918

A bit like the jump from a multi cell ed organism to axial cephalisation
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March 27, 2015 1:04pm
stephieboy

Ugly Truth, this item from your link is deserving of you attention and explanation,

• Adherents to the Hollow Earth hypothesis believe that Admiral Byrd flew over the North Pole and into the hollow earth in February 1947, and that he kept a secret diary of the incident. This belief was first published in F. Amadeo Giannini’s book The Worlds Beyond the Poles: Physical Continuity of the Universe (1959). Giannini writes that Byrd encountered a humanoid being from another “world” who warned humanity to pursue peace and not war; he also reports that Byrd spotted a living woolly mammoth near the North Pole.[12]
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One major problem with Giannini’s account is that in February 1947, Byrd was leading Operation Highjump in Antarctica and was, consequently, nowhere near the North Pole. Another problem is that in February the Arctic is in winter, and sunlight does not reach the North Pole, so it would have been impossible for Byrd to see something, like a woolly mammoth, from the air. Furthermore, Giannini quotes directly from the movie Lost Horizon (1937) [29] in the dialog of the humanoid Byrd allegedly encountered. Some Hollow Earth theorists believe that The Worlds Beyond the Poles was published by “controllers” in order to discredit the Hollow Earth theory.
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March 27, 2015 1:06pm
kowtow

chuck bird

Equality before the law? You’ve got to be joking. We’ve arrived at the Orwellian prophecy of 4 legs good, 2 legs better.We are living in Animal Farm and no one seems to get it.

The other day a judge said he’d have gaoled someone for assaullt if the motivation had been “homophobia”. So nowadays certain minorities are clearly entitled to more protection than others before the law! So much for that blindfold Lady Justice used to wear.

http://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/337208/gay-bar-assault-not-homophobia
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March 27, 2015 1:13pm
Fletch

UT probably does accept the earth is a sphere

I believe the Earth is actually an oblate spheroid – slightly egg-shaped.
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March 27, 2015 1:32pm
Redbaiter

What an insane asylum GD has turned into at the hands of Stupidboy and his correspondents.

Just dropped in to say the line to view Lee Kuan Yew’s body as it lies in state at Singapore’s parliament house is now 8 hours long, and will be longer tomorrow (Saturday).

Not bad for a totalitarian despot who ruled by fear and terror and repression as the Kommies on here will eagerly tell you.
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March 27, 2015 1:50pm
Dave_1924

@Hj…. no there where a lot of depressed people in concentration camps…. go read “Man’s search for Meaning”…. those who got depressed lay down in their bunks and died…
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March 27, 2015 1:58pm
Griff

Hi redblurt take your brave pills today matey?
Gee without you the conservonutters look like a bunch of lost wackos
just like they did with you.
😆
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March 27, 2015 2:00pm
stephieboy

Redbaiter, getting bit lonely out there at True Blue ?

Another Hollow Earther ?
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March 27, 2015 2:00pm
lifesgood

Over on Whale Oil the anti National commentary has been getting more and more hysterical. I can’t work out whether Slater has a personal axe to grind because his friends have been slighted (Judith Collins and others) or whether he is just being analytical. Personally I fail to see how any government could have done better given the circumstances – Christchurch earthquake etc. Some people have very short memories.
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March 27, 2015 2:06pm
dime

lifesgood – slater got wiped like a dirty ass. hes a joke and hes only just realised what national think of him. a play thing to manipulate and discard.

hence, all of his analysis has been about national and how all of a sudden (since he was wiped) they are complete shit and JK has to go.

questionable timing i tells ya!

to be fair, hes always hated joyce who apparently “just lost the 2014 election when he didnt..”
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March 27, 2015 2:11pm
Redbaiter

“Redbaiter, getting bit lonely out there at True Blue ?”

Just make sure you and your idiot mates stay well away.
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March 27, 2015 2:12pm
stigie

“Just make sure you and your idiot mates stay well away”.

Oh jeez Reddy, we would have a ball over at Trueblue, all our fantasies would be completed ole chap !~
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March 27, 2015 2:41pm
macdee

Dime/Lifesgood – from WO today “I used to hand some info up to the 9th floor when I thought it might be of interest. For obvious reasons, that has stopped. John Key has isolated himself, not just from me, but from many other voices that he previously allowed to come through.” Its not Key who’s isolated and irrelevant!!
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March 27, 2015 2:48pm
Redbaiter

“Oh jeez Reddy,”

Poor little narcissist Stoogie, still missing his Mum and all that attention she showered upon him.
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March 27, 2015 3:00pm
lifesgood

Dime – Have you any idea why he hates, no loathes!, Joyce? I was an avid reader of WO…but all that negativity is getting to me so it’s “over and out”
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March 27, 2015 3:08pm
Longknives

I’m about as ‘Right Wing’ as you can get but I never got into Whale Oil.
Always found him a little odd- And anyone that boasts about killing Cats is a little ‘Dahmer’ in my books…
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March 27, 2015 3:26pm
Griff

Just make sure you and your idiot mates stay well away.
😆
We get your idiot mates dragging back smelly bits from true pooh all the time reddy.
just like little lost puppy’s.
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March 27, 2015 3:33pm
dime

lifesgood – not sure. i suspect that joyce never communicated with him. therefore he must be destroyed.

“I used to hand some info up to the 9th floor when I thought it might be of interest. For obvious reasons, that has stopped. John Key has isolated himself, not just from me, but from many other voices that he previously allowed to come through.”

thats hilarious!! out of touch when you dont talk to the blogger who surrounds himself with suck ups. a guy who had to move house because hes hated by so many. when ya think “everyday new zealander”, Cameron doesnt really come to mind.

whatever happened to that cactus kate?
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March 27, 2015 3:34pm
lifesgood

Yes, good point, Dime. What Did happen to Cactus Kate. She was one of WO’s buddies but hasn’t been heard from for yonks.
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March 27, 2015 3:40pm
Griff

last episode of top gear
must watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iLRna0RRvxo
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March 27, 2015 3:41pm
ngatimozart

I see Ron Mark has burst into print with an opinion piece in today’s Dom. http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/67521021/Did-cyclone-Pam-make-a-case-for-C17s He has the occasional good point and is spot on about Labour stuffing up the NH90 purchase by being to stingy to stipulate the undercarriage be the NATO Frigate Helicopter one which would have allowed our NH90s to operate of the Canterbury at sea. Since they didn’t, they negated one of the reasons they purchased them. The NH90 is a good helicopter and will serve NZ well, but now we will have to probably spend extra money fixing Labours stuff ups.

Mark has it in his head that the govt is going to replace our worn out Hercules with five C17 Globemasters. Well that would not happen because we simply can’t afford it and more importantly they would only cover our strategic air mobility capabilities and not our tactical ones. Hence two C17s is more than likely IF they are acquired. The next point is that Mark claims that we should just replace our five worn out Hercules with new Hercules. However that does not solve our strategic air mobility problems when a lot of the equipment we would want to move in a hurry doesn’t’ fit into a Hercules because it is to large or to heavy. Things such as NH90s or NZLAVs. He says that if we buy five new Hercules instead of five C17s the extra money could be used to regenerate the Air Combat Force. Well it would take a lot more money than that. Try around NZ $3 billion for 18 aircraft and all their support and sustainment requirements.

Things have changed since he was in the Army and have gone from three single services fighting over continuously diminishing resources and occasionally working together, to now being quite a lot more joint in their approaches and thinking and basically singing off the same song sheet. They’ve had too. Whilst I do see the need for standing up the Air Combat Force again, I acknowledge that it is a matter of prioritisation of limited funding and resources, with far more important capabilities that need recapitalisation, such as the fixed wing air mobility,the air surveillance and air maritime capability, the naval combat force, the naval patrol force, defence tactical and strategic communications, etc.

All governments from the last forty years are to blame for the sorry state of defence equipment and the fact that now we face a multiple billions of dollar bill to fix their negligence.
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March 27, 2015 4:29pm
Inandout

lifesgood : Perhaps Cam is trying to use reverse psychology, knowing many swinging voters can be fooled. Cam feigns anti National so his adversaries will vote for National out of spite.
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March 27, 2015 4:43pm
Griff

Try around NZ $3 billion for 18 aircraft and all their support and sustainment requirements.

A10
More in keeping for our needs and budget than strike fighters
and a lot cheaper.
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March 27, 2015 4:45pm
Manolo

The vile Saudis have to attack Yemen after the U.S. abandoned it. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32078817

Yemen’s President Abdrabbuh Mansour Hadi has arrived in Saudi Arabia’s capital Riyadh, officials say, as a Saudi-led coalition continues to launch air strikes against Shia Houthi rebels.
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March 27, 2015 5:27pm
jcuk

Bea B … It could be that Northlanders in general have like me come to the conclusion that the National Government except for John Key is a bunch of hopeless and useless seat warmers and wish to warn JK his ship is rotten except for the keel. Apart from his steady hand I find it hard to think of anything good that has come out of this government. Winnie is the only way to express ones disgust at the moment. National have had six plus years to sort out the problems and we still have them like Labour had six[?] years and only at the end bought back the train set National sold.
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March 27, 2015 5:38pm
OneTrack

jcuk – so your plan is to piss off JK even more by sticking Winston in his face and giving the hard-left more to bash him with, while reducing his ability to actually do anything for the next 2 and a half years, thereby encouraging him to pull the pin and leave for greener fields? It’s a plan, of sorts.
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March 27, 2015 6:02pm
lifesgood

For goodness sake, jcuk, get a grip! What do you mean National has done nothing. What a venal self centred bunch of no hopers NZers are if they think that. NZ is only one of the few countries in the world that has comfortably survived the recession on top of coping admirably with the the disaster of the Canterbury earthquake. Some people are never happy. Try living in Greece and find out what a recession is like. Labour would have made a right mess of everything, mainly because Helen Clarke surrounded herself with no hopers who wouldn’t be a threat to her.
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March 27, 2015 6:21pm
Hugh Pavletich

AUSTRALIAN HOUSING BUBBLE : GETTING THE TRUTH BETWEEN THE EYES

Posted at … New Zealand’s economy booms! – MacroBusiness Australia … http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2015/03/new-zealands-economy-booms/ … with extensive further material …

Australia is in one of the worst housing bubbles we have ever seen … Fairfax Australia

http://news.domain.com.au/domain/real-estate-news/australia-is-in-one-of-the-worst-housing-bubbles-we-have-ever-seen-20150327-1m8vao.html

Australia: one of the worst housing bubbles ever – MacroBusiness Australia

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2015/03/australia-one-worst-housing-bubbles-ever/

2015 11th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey

http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf
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March 27, 2015 7:01pm
lifesgood

Re Dimes featured comment- Me too! And when, if ever, is Freed going to be launched. I’ll believe it when I see it. I’ve had a gutsful of WO. His anti Key and National tirades are just beyond a joke now.
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March 27, 2015 7:12pm
ngatimozart

Griff some of us have thought about the A10, but it is no longer manufactured and if the USAF has its way, will be out of service solo, so will be no longer supported. If we got it, it would be an orphan aircraft and cost us a fortune to sustain. Besides that it may not actually meet the requirements that we require.
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March 27, 2015 7:14pm
Colville

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11424280

funny.
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March 27, 2015 7:30pm
Reid

F16.

As the US offered Hulun all these years ago.

Perfect.

She turned it down.

Destroying Joint Force capability.

Traitor?

You bet.

Deliberate?

With the best advice in the country at her fingertips?

You bet.
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March 27, 2015 7:40pm
PhilP

Saw Penny Dim on the news tonight with placard in hand protesting at John Key in Kerikeri. I wonder who paid for her to be there?
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March 27, 2015 7:56pm
stigie

@Philp “The Taxpayer”
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March 27, 2015 8:01pm
Nostradamus

Len Brown walks out of council meeting over port

Auckland Mayor Len Brown today walked out of a council meeting following a stoush with councillor Cathy Casey over port expansion.

After pushing for a debate on the issue as an item of extraordinary business, Ms Casey responded to Mr Brown’s refusal to the request by accusing the mayor of not listening to the people of Auckland.

When Mr Brown asked Ms Casey to withdraw her comment because he regarded it as a personal insult, and she didn’t, he asked her to leave the chamber at the Orewa service centre.

Mr Brown then walked out.

The meeting resumed about 20 minutes later when Ms Casey agreed to apologise and withdrew her comment.

Good grief!

Len Brown is hardly in a position to characterise “not listening to the people of Auckland” as a personal insult. He should apologise to the people of Auckland for, firstly, using the Ngati Whatua room and other Council property for private sexual liaisons and, secondly, for requiring the people of Auckland to pay for the Ernst and Young report.
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March 27, 2015 8:21pm
nasska

Say what you like about poor old Len.

He’s left his personal dna on the city….the legacy of Two Minute Brown will live on in the minds of ratepayers for eons. 🙂
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March 27, 2015 8:32pm
Reid

He should apologise to the people of Auckland for…

I actually think the people of Auckland need to apologise to the rest of the country for electing him in the first place. How could anyone have been so stupid ever thinking he was ever going to do anything whatsoever ever.

And yet, none of the city, not one of you, have ever thought of doing that.

Despite the obviousnesslessness of the whole entire thing.

If ever there was the definition of “national disgrace,” this is it.

And yet you Aucklanders apparently don’t give a damn.

You should be ashamed, and I hope all of you are.
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March 27, 2015 8:38pm
waikatogirl

I wonder how many planning to vote for Winnie find they are not able to as they are on the Maori role, not the General role?

Guessing all the Nat voters will be out in force doing the right thing, despite the desperate left ravings of the MSM in their prediction that Winnie will romp home. We will see 😉
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March 27, 2015 8:56pm
nasska

Totally agree Reid. The ratepayers of Auckland should appoint a delegation to don sackcloth with ashes & walk down to Wellington to grovel for forgiveness.

The national sense of shame we have all felt needs to be atoned for. 🙂
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March 27, 2015 8:59pm
Reid

Maybe nasska we should require them to give the country say, ten grand each off their ridiculous property values which they didn’t earn.

Just as a token.

Then another ten next month.

And so on.

Till everything’s back to normal.

That’ll learn em.
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March 27, 2015 9:05pm
Nostradamus

About that affair with Len Brown:

We sat watched over by a big cock, a brass rooster, in a private alcove at one of the downtown hotels where she used to meet Auckland Mayor Len Brown during their pleasant two-year affair.

Steve Braunias deserves literary acclaim for that opening sentence.

And later in the article:

I mentioned the security guard — just about the only person in the whole scandal to remain silent — who found them in the Ngati Whatua room at the Town Hall. She was naked, Brown wasn’t wearing his pants. She laughed, and said, “I still remember being freaked out. It was chaotic. The door opened, I run and hide. Which was not easy. You couldn’t really hide in there. I found a chair.”

As Nasska says, the legacy of Two Minute Brown will live on in the minds of ratepayers for eons.
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March 27, 2015 9:08pm
nasska

The image of the half wiped Mayoral arse, ( 1 minute 58) thrusting downward, (one minute 59) sweat dripping (Two minutes……

Sorry folks….the shows over. 🙂
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March 27, 2015 9:17pm
Hugh Pavletich

Cheristchurch recovery : The Press Editor Joanna Norris nails it …

2015 will be ‘year of momentum’ for Christchurch … Cecile Meier … The Press

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/the-rebuild/67526134/2015-will-be-year-of-momentum-for-Christchurch

… Pavletich comment … in moderation …

Well done The Press Editor Joanna Norris.

Indeed … the city’s future lies in the hands of entrepreneurs big and small and in the community. Or more properly the communities, as the Council is restructured from the centralized failure to the “One City – Many Communities” model.

You have nailed it Ms Norris !
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March 27, 2015 9:39pm
RF

Is there any truth that Cunners has been between the sheets with a political TV lass ? Did not realise that red and green were compatible.

Hearing a few whispers about this but not sure if it is the truth.
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March 27, 2015 9:52pm
Left Right and Centre

I heard WillowRose Prime or whatever her name is lying down for Labour in Northland on the news.

She speaks like a retard. She says the work bitter as though it is two separate words – where does that come from ? I know the type of accent or way of speaking and they are usually dumbarse idiots. Like children learning to talk. Usually it’s the word ‘little’ that is the worst. Most people would put a big emphasis on the first syllable – someone like Willy would say lit-tle with some weird speech timing stressing both syllables. She sounds weird. Where do they find these people ? You’d never want a PM that sounded like her – unless they were super super on to it to make up for it – but of course people that sound like her never are.
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March 27, 2015 10:07pm
Rachael Membery

PhilP (179 comments) says:

March 27th, 2015 at 7:56 pm

I hope she does a good job for National. 😉
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March 27, 2015 10:10pm
Rachael Membery

Left Right and Centre (3,275 comments) says:

March 27th, 2015 at 10:07 pm

She probably has to say little a lot.
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March 27, 2015 10:28pm
publicwatchdog

Did you like my placard:

“Mike Sabin? ShonKEY?”

Seems John Key didn’t – he was speaking in his ‘squeaky’ voice, which usually is the giveaway that at the end of the day, he’s neither ‘relaxed’ nor ‘comfortable’ about National’s impending HAMMERING as Winston Peters takes Northland off National?

Penny Bright

http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz

(Self-funded ‘Anti-Corruption / Anti-Privatisation Public Watchdog’)
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March 27, 2015 11:27pm
Griff

(Self-funded ‘Anti-Corruption / Anti-Privatisation Public Watchdog’)
Are you telling us you have received no donations ever penny?
or are you telling porkies.
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March 28, 2015 12:18am
Left Right and Centre

I made the mistake of channel surfing over to Seven Sharp for about thirty seconds. I just can’t believe these fuckwits. The stupid cow was giving a soapbox lecture – her opinion only I take it – about Jeremy Clarkson’s sacking.

I felt like I was on the mat and teacher was reading me a fuckin bible story. And then – she pulled this incredibly idiotic face at the end of her little patronising morality speech – dragging her bottom lip into a big clownish down-cornered pantomime style over the top frown – what the **fuck** was that about ??

Know-nothing zero talent obnoxious weird little fluff-faced over-styled irritating TV twerp.

This is what New Zealanders get served up with. Are these people seriously the best that little old NZ can produce ? They suck – it’s pathetic. It’s like she wants me to hate her. Whatever they’re hoping to achieve – no idea – it’s not working.
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March 28, 2015 5:20am
Manolo

Self-funded with a little monetary assistance from Kim DotCom. Very, very honest.
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March 28, 2015 6:50am
IGM

Public Dog: Is it true you are funded by Slobcrim . . . if so, why is this not declared? Time the source of your income was audited and believe me, it will happen. You are not only treasonous, but vile and self-serving.
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